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Still no sign of follow-up Perfect Draft articles? (1 Viewer)
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Franknbeans
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RageRhino
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RageRhino
Footballguy
What begins? This has nothing to do with WDIS threads and everything to do with FBGs not delivering a timely product. Are you a subscriber?If YES, you are 100% ok with missed deadlines?If NOT, then shut up because no one cares.It begins. Pretty soon the thinly veiled WDIS threads are going to start to appear and it will be time to go back into hibernation.
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
Chaka
Footballguy
These posts begin like they do every year. Missed deadlines of this sort simply do not bother me in the least and the articles are not why I subscribe to the website. It sucks that it causes you so much consternation but don't take your venom out on me. If you want to get something done then PM the guys in charge because, frankly it gets old seeing these types of threads polluting the Shark Pool, like they do every year, when they do not accomplish anything except allowing you to vent your spleen.I get everything I want out of this site and more, you do not and I do not care.What begins? This has nothing to do with WDIS threads and everything to do with FBGs not delivering a timely product. Are you a subscriber?If YES, you are 100% ok with missed deadlines?If NOT, then shut up because no one cares.It begins. Pretty soon the thinly veiled WDIS threads are going to start to appear and it will be time to go back into hibernation.
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Lil' Mr. Poopy Pants
Footballguy
:sniff:
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
For someone who doesn't care, you have already posted in this thread twice. I wonder what you'd do if you did care.Should anyone care that it's almost time for you "to go back into hibernation" or that you don't like seeing these types of threads, or that missed deadlines don't bother you? If you don't care, wouldn't this be a good opportunity to simply move your eyes to another thread that has things you DO care about?Or will you choose to post here for a third time, proving just how much you really don't care?These posts begin like they do every year. Missed deadlines of this sort simply do not bother me in the least and the articles are not why I subscribe to the website. It sucks that it causes you so much consternation but don't take your venom out on me. If you want to get something done then PM the guys in charge because, frankly it gets old seeing these types of threads polluting the Shark Pool, like they do every year, when they do not accomplish anything except allowing you to vent your spleen.I get everything I want out of this site and more, you do not and I do not care.What begins? This has nothing to do with WDIS threads and everything to do with FBGs not delivering a timely product. Are you a subscriber?If YES, you are 100% ok with missed deadlines?If NOT, then shut up because no one cares.It begins. Pretty soon the thinly veiled WDIS threads are going to start to appear and it will be time to go back into hibernation.
Chaka
Footballguy
Now I know why tigers eat their young.For someone who doesn't care, you have already posted in this thread twice. I wonder what you'd do if you did care.Should anyone care that it's almost time for you "to go back into hibernation" or that you don't like seeing these types of threads, or that missed deadlines don't bother you? If you don't care, wouldn't this be a good opportunity to simply move your eyes to another thread that has things you DO care about?Or will you choose to post here for a third time, proving just how much you really don't care?These posts begin like they do every year. Missed deadlines of this sort simply do not bother me in the least and the articles are not why I subscribe to the website. It sucks that it causes you so much consternation but don't take your venom out on me. If you want to get something done then PM the guys in charge because, frankly it gets old seeing these types of threads polluting the Shark Pool, like they do every year, when they do not accomplish anything except allowing you to vent your spleen.I get everything I want out of this site and more, you do not and I do not care.What begins? This has nothing to do with WDIS threads and everything to do with FBGs not delivering a timely product. Are you a subscriber?If YES, you are 100% ok with missed deadlines?If NOT, then shut up because no one cares.It begins. Pretty soon the thinly veiled WDIS threads are going to start to appear and it will be time to go back into hibernation.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
For someone who doesn't care, you have already posted in this thread twice. I wonder what you'd do if you did care.Should anyone care that it's almost time for you "to go back into hibernation" or that you don't like seeing these types of threads, or that missed deadlines don't bother you? If you don't care, wouldn't this be a good opportunity to simply move your eyes to another thread that has things you DO care about?Or will you choose to post here for a third time, proving just how much you really don't care?These posts begin like they do every year. Missed deadlines of this sort simply do not bother me in the least and the articles are not why I subscribe to the website. It sucks that it causes you so much consternation but don't take your venom out on me. If you want to get something done then PM the guys in charge because, frankly it gets old seeing these types of threads polluting the Shark Pool, like they do every year, when they do not accomplish anything except allowing you to vent your spleen.I get everything I want out of this site and more, you do not and I do not care.What begins? This has nothing to do with WDIS threads and everything to do with FBGs not delivering a timely product. Are you a subscriber?If YES, you are 100% ok with missed deadlines?If NOT, then shut up because no one cares.It begins. Pretty soon the thinly veiled WDIS threads are going to start to appear and it will be time to go back into hibernation.
gorf
Footballguy
oh good lord. maybe he's just sick of multiple threads on the first page about the perfect draft articles. if you have a complaint, take it up with the staff. this forum is for football, not whining.mods, maybe these complaint threads can be merged or something?For someone who doesn't care, you have already posted in this thread twice. I wonder what you'd do if you did care.Should anyone care that it's almost time for you "to go back into hibernation" or that you don't like seeing these types of threads, or that missed deadlines don't bother you? If you don't care, wouldn't this be a good opportunity to simply move your eyes to another thread that has things you DO care about?Or will you choose to post here for a third time, proving just how much you really don't care?These posts begin like they do every year. Missed deadlines of this sort simply do not bother me in the least and the articles are not why I subscribe to the website. It sucks that it causes you so much consternation but don't take your venom out on me. If you want to get something done then PM the guys in charge because, frankly it gets old seeing these types of threads polluting the Shark Pool, like they do every year, when they do not accomplish anything except allowing you to vent your spleen.I get everything I want out of this site and more, you do not and I do not care.What begins? This has nothing to do with WDIS threads and everything to do with FBGs not delivering a timely product. Are you a subscriber?If YES, you are 100% ok with missed deadlines?If NOT, then shut up because no one cares.It begins. Pretty soon the thinly veiled WDIS threads are going to start to appear and it will be time to go back into hibernation.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Nominated for worst SP thread of the week. Congratulations. 
John Mamula
Moderator
Nominated for worst SP thread of the week. Congratulations.
this has been the most entertaining, imo.BrentBlack
Footballguy
Did you not see the One-Liner thread?Nominated for worst SP thread of the week. Congratulations.
Doctor Detroit
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I rest my case.Nominated for worst SP thread of the week. Congratulations.
John Mamula
Moderator
Are you saying that entertaining threads don't belong in the Shark Pool or that if I like it, it has to be bad.I rest my case.Nominated for worst SP thread of the week. Congratulations.
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
"I expect to have all of these versions done before Tuesday, August 22nd"
Personally, I see this more as an estimate, not a promise.
Personally, I see this more as an estimate, not a promise.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Are you saying that entertaining threads don't belong in the Shark Pool or that if I like it, it has to be bad.I rest my case.Nominated for worst SP thread of the week. Congratulations.
Why would I have an issue with entertaining threads?
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
bad estimate
John Mamula
Moderator
Are you saying that entertaining threads don't belong in the Shark Pool or that if I like it, it has to be bad.I rest my case.Nominated for worst SP thread of the week. Congratulations.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Are you saying that entertaining threads don't belong in the Shark Pool or that if I like it, it has to be bad.I rest my case.Nominated for worst SP thread of the week. Congratulations.
John Mamula
Moderator
I don't disagree grue,We held out trying not to give a date as much as we could because there are so many unseeable issues. Last night's trade meant starting over with tons of things.Because those things will never go away, the answer is unfortunatley going to be "we'll get it asap" instead of trying have a deadline. There will be lots of yelling about that too but it won't be as bad as it is now.Jgruecd said:
Eraser
Footballguy
I would rather know that Dodds & Company put together a solid article (The Perfect Draft)...than have them rush to meet a deadline and put out something that isn't to the quality we have all come to expect.
I for one always enjoy reading "the perfect draft" articles....and I to am looking forward to reading the follow-up from the one that was in the magazine!!
I am sure that once the article is just perfect, it will be released.
E
I for one always enjoy reading "the perfect draft" articles....and I to am looking forward to reading the follow-up from the one that was in the magazine!!
I am sure that once the article is just perfect, it will be released.
E
gruecd
Footballguy
You can't please everybody, but I agree that it's the right thing to do.
RageRhino
Footballguy
no complaints from me. i'd MUCH rather it be approached that way anyways.
Thanks. Just assume from here on that's the way it is.J
Thanks, Joe!The one question I have, though, is why did the trade mean "starting over with tons of things" on this Perfect Draft Article that everyone is so up in arms over? I read the 12-teamer and it doesn't seem that much of the analysis would change from that one, based on the trade. It just doesn't seem like you'd have to do anything remotely close to "starting over." I haven't read it, though, so I'm sure I could be completely off-base.Anyway, you run a great site here and I'll look forward to reading the other articles as I've found all other articles to be well-thought out and extremely well-written.
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Hi Gdog,I'm sorry I wasn't clear. The work comes from things like the Duckett / Lelie trade and how it impacts the projections. From there, that creates ripple waves in virtually everything we do from the Draft Dominator to the VBD App to the cheatsheets. It's not a problem as that's how it's supposed to work - everything builds off the projections. But it makes it nearly impossible to consistently hit hard deadlines (without padding the deadlines to a goofy extent) as there are often things that happen.The Perfect Draft articles are actually a couple of links down the chain. But it's all connected. Which is good. But bad sometimes too.
J
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AnonymousBob
Footballguy
I care more about what's being done to prevent future missed deadlines.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
I think the point some tried to make is that this wasn't a one time deal but a it's a reoccurring issue.
zamboni
Footballguy
Fair enough. Although the complaining seems to be a recurring issue as well.
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Joe,To cut to the chase -- will or will not the other Perfect Draft articles be available to subscribers prior to this weekend (when a lot of drafts will be taking place)?dmHi Gdog,I'm sorry I wasn't clear. The work comes from things like the Duckett / Lelie trade and how it impacts the projections. From there, that creates ripple waves in virtually everything we do from the Draft Dominator to the VBD App to the cheatsheets. It's not a problem as that's how it's supposed to work - everything builds off the projections. But it makes it nearly impossible to consistently hit hard deadlines (without padding the deadlines to a goofy extent) as there are often things that happen.The Perfect Draft articles are actually a couple of links down the chain. But it's all connected. Which is good. But bad sometimes too.
LordHusker
Hot sauce addict
If it's any consolation, there is virtually no chance that the Perfect Draft articles won't be up by the weekend. Joe and David HAVE to know that a titanic number of drafts will occur this weekend, because many leagues avoid Labor Day weekend drafts with all the owners typically on vacations, unavailable, etc.
I'm guessing by Friday we'll see the 10- and 14-team Perfect Draft articles posted. There. I set a deadline for them.
I'm guessing by Friday we'll see the 10- and 14-team Perfect Draft articles posted. There. I set a deadline for them.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Here's one of my favorite quotes:
I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.
-Douglas Adams.
I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.
-Douglas Adams.
steviey
Footballguy
There is a bigger picture than whether or not a deadline was set and whether or not it was met. For me, the big picture is whether or not people have them in time for their drafts. So pushing back the deadline, to say August 30th for example, and meeting that deadline every year isn't the answer either. It's a perfect "draft" article. I'm biased because our draft was last weekend, but it seems to me that you likely keep the majority of people happy if you get them out before last weekend (even Friday night if necessary). I don't know the numbers but I can assume by the responses, I'm not the only one who has already drafted and won't benefit by these articles. Having said all of that, the site is still incredible and it's obvious how much work these guys have to do at this time of year so
LordHusker
Hot sauce addict
P.S. Both my drafts (14- and 10-team) are Sunday, so if they miss that deadline, I'll be screaming right along with everyone else.If it's any consolation, there is virtually no chance that the Perfect Draft articles won't be up by the weekend. Joe and David HAVE to know that a titanic number of drafts will occur this weekend, because many leagues avoid Labor Day weekend drafts with all the owners typically on vacations, unavailable, etc.I'm guessing by Friday we'll see the 10- and 14-team Perfect Draft articles posted. There. I set a deadline for them.
The 10-Teamer is up.http://subscribers.footballguys.com/2006/0...s_perfect10.phpP.S. Both my drafts (14- and 10-team) are Sunday, so if they miss that deadline, I'll be screaming right along with everyone else.If it's any consolation, there is virtually no chance that the Perfect Draft articles won't be up by the weekend. Joe and David HAVE to know that a titanic number of drafts will occur this weekend, because many leagues avoid Labor Day weekend drafts with all the owners typically on vacations, unavailable, etc.
I'm guessing by Friday we'll see the 10- and 14-team Perfect Draft articles posted. There. I set a deadline for them.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Squeaky wheel gets the grease.
Well all of the above only proves my original point, i.e. I know of no other business where the paying customers so vociferously defend the service providers's shortfalls.
Telling us to "do our own research" is equivalent to me saying that the mechanic I paid to fix my car screwed up, and being told to "fix my own car".
I don't get it. We can't query a service which was promised? Fair enough, FBG has said it will be ASAP, which I accept. But I have to maintain the right as a subscriber to ask about this stuff.
Peace out.
Telling us to "do our own research" is equivalent to me saying that the mechanic I paid to fix my car screwed up, and being told to "fix my own car".
I don't get it. We can't query a service which was promised? Fair enough, FBG has said it will be ASAP, which I accept. But I have to maintain the right as a subscriber to ask about this stuff.
Peace out.
The 10-Teamer is up.http://subscribers.footballguys.com/2006/0...s_perfect10.phpP.S. Both my drafts (14- and 10-team) are Sunday, so if they miss that deadline, I'll be screaming right along with everyone else.If it's any consolation, there is virtually no chance that the Perfect Draft articles won't be up by the weekend. Joe and David HAVE to know that a titanic number of drafts will occur this weekend, because many leagues avoid Labor Day weekend drafts with all the owners typically on vacations, unavailable, etc.
I'm guessing by Friday we'll see the 10- and 14-team Perfect Draft articles posted. There. I set a deadline for them.
crossing fingers that the auction one will get done this year. 
Kleck
Footballguy
Huh. I wonder why that is.Also, there aren't too many businesses where customers only interface with their clientele using email and message boards. One thing I've learned is the typed word is almost always received in a confrontational manner. Whatever negative emotions can be attached to the typed word will be attached. I have to give Joe credit for understanding this concept. Being aware of this has made life as a message board moderator much easier to handle for me.Lots of our most vehemently upset customers would come off as cupcakes if they were registering their complaints face to face. Not a problem. The anonymity that customers have allows them to turn "we're planning on having something posted by Tuesday" into "I promise". Again, the reality we work in. It allows them to exaggerate any statements knowing they won't be called on it. I'm not complaining. It's the nature of the business. Not much we can do about that besides trying to offer the best we have. If customers like it, they'll come back. If they don't, they'll leave.toonarmy said:
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