Streaming or currently airing TV shows (AKA Netflix thread) (44 Viewers)

[jamny]

Agree with the above. S1 was great, I didn't finish S2, S3 was good.

 

[General Malaise]

Larry Sanders Show was always something I'd kind of watch but never really sat down to watch it like I would with other HBO shows.

Until now. Season 1, Episode 1 last night. Got through 3 of them.

So good.

 

[General Malaise]

I've never seen True Detective but if Jodie Foster is in this, I need to. Are all the seasons good? All anyone ever talks about is Season 1.

Season 1 was one of the best seasons of TV ever. Season 2 was one of the worst. Season 3 was pretty decent but forgettable.

I never really gave Season 2 a chance. What I did see was pretty bad. But yeah, this is where I'm at. Season 1, incredible. Season 3, great acting, but not very memorable.

 

[Osaurus]

Larry Sanders Show was always something I'd kind of watch but never really sat down to watch it like I would with other HBO shows.

Until now. Season 1, Episode 1 last night. Got through 3 of them.

So good.

Just started season 4

 

[El Floppo]

I started The Bear last night.

Had to force myself to turn it off at 2am

 

[General Malaise]

I started The Bear last night.

Had to force myself to turn it off at 2am

Best show that's come out in years. I'm so envious you have season 2 ahead of you.

 

[foxco]

I started The Bear last night.

Had to force myself to turn it off at 2am

Amazing show but does my wife have to blurt out "Corner chef!" every time she brushes past me in the kitchen now? Starting to get old.

 

[General Malaise]

I started The Bear last night.

Had to force myself to turn it off at 2am

Amazing show but does my wife have to blurt out "Corner chef!" every time she brushes past me in the kitchen now? Starting to get old.

HA! I do that and my wife isn't amused. Wanna trade?

 

[ZADO]

Gerald's game looks interesting

 

[El Floppo]

I started The Bear last night.

Had to force myself to turn it off at 2am

Amazing show but does my wife have to blurt out "Corner chef!" every time she brushes past me in the kitchen now? Starting to get old.

HA! I do that and my wife isn't amused. Wanna trade?

Yes.




She and the kids are out of town

 

[Bogart]

Watched the episodes of "Bookie" (HBO) that have been released and enjoyed it decent enough - 7/10.

It's a show along the lines of shows where it flirts between a drama and dark comedy while interspersing some gratuitous and unexpected violence and sex/nudity. Very HBO. It's not going to be riveting nor likely something I think about five years from now, but it's been a fun and interesting watch so far. There are also some really good celebrity cameos with some playing characters (Ray Ramano plays a deadbeat gambling addict in the first scene) and other playing themselves (Charlie Sheen, reunited with Chuck Lorre, plays himself).

Sebastian Maniscalco is the lead in this. Rob Corddry is also in the cast. Agree with Zow's assessment. It isn't breaking any new ground, but it is enjoyable to watch. In the vein of Ballers, Entourage, etc.

Rolled through the eight episodes and found it entertaining enough to search this thread to see if anyone else commented on it.

 

[belljr]

Watched the episodes of "Bookie" (HBO) that have been released and enjoyed it decent enough - 7/10.

It's a show along the lines of shows where it flirts between a drama and dark comedy while interspersing some gratuitous and unexpected violence and sex/nudity. Very HBO. It's not going to be riveting nor likely something I think about five years from now, but it's been a fun and interesting watch so far. There are also some really good celebrity cameos with some playing characters (Ray Ramano plays a deadbeat gambling addict in the first scene) and other playing themselves (Charlie Sheen, reunited with Chuck Lorre, plays himself).

Sebastian Maniscalco is the lead in this. Rob Corddry is also in the cast. Agree with Zow's assessment. It isn't breaking any new ground, but it is enjoyable to watch. In the vein of Ballers, Entourage, etc.

Rolled through the eight episodes and found it entertaining enough to search this thread to see if anyone else commented on it.

Man I keep forgetting they weren't all released at once. Need to catch up!!!!

 

[boilerdave]

Letterkenny last season, season 12 is out. Will miss you Miss Katy Cats....

I hated to see Katy go but I loved watching her walk away.

It’s too bad the show has ended but it’s very rewatchable imo.

 

[Capella]

Richie was a great character

The episode where he spends time at the Michelin star restaurant was one of my favorite episodes of tv in recent years. So powerful!

 

[BeTheMatch]

Richie was a great character

The episode where he spends time at the Michelin star restaurant was one of my favorite episodes of tv in recent years. So powerful!

"Forks"

 

[jobarules]

Richie was a great character

The episode where he spends time at the Michelin star restaurant was one of my favorite episodes of tv in recent years. So powerful!

I wear suits now

 

[El Floppo]

The scene with the dork BIL and Jamie Lee Curtis outside the restaurant was unbelievable. One of so many, but that one hit me.

And if I was a young actor, I would use Carms Al-Anon speech as my monologue.

Yeah. I finished S2.

Eta... Different shows, but their ability to marry insane situations with such heartfelt real characters made me think of Mr In-between in all the best ways.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

The scene with the dork BIL and Jamie Lee Curtis outside the restaurant was unbelievable. One of so many, but that one hit me.

And if I was a young actor, I would use Carms Al-Anon speech as my monologue.

Yeah. I finished S2.

The dork BIL is absolute gold. If I were a writer on The Bear, I would be tempted to overuse him, but they have probably done the right thing in using him sparingly.

 

[El Floppo]

Seeing the Syd actress in Theater Camp first made it harder to watch her seriously... But she's great (everyone's great). And Oliver Platt... Wow. And Jamie Lee Curtis. Top to bottom top level stuff

 

[krista4]

Richie was a great character

The episode where he spends time at the Michelin star restaurant was one of my favorite episodes of tv in recent years. So powerful!

I wear suits now

We still say this around our house embarrassingly often.

 

[krista4]

I blame/credit The Bear for our decision to move back to Chicago in the next 15-18 months.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I blame/credit The Bear for our decision to move back to Chicago in the next 15-18 months.

At least you’ll be closer to the BullDolls reunion

 

[krista4]

I blame/credit The Bear for our decision to move back to Chicago in the next 15-18 months.

At least you’ll be closer to the BullDolls reunion

Just in case you think I was making that up.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I blame/credit The Bear for our decision to move back to Chicago in the next 15-18 months.

At least you’ll be closer to the BullDolls reunion

Just in case you think I was making that up.

Catered meal eh? Not sure how you pass that up

 

[Capella]

Last season of the crown was very uneven and all the focus on William sucked. But it was an excellent finale.

Enjoyed the show a lot and am pleased I can now return to never thinking about those morons ever again.

 

[The General]

Last season of the crown was very uneven and all the focus on William sucked. But it was an excellent finale.

Enjoyed the show a lot and am pleased I can now return to never thinking about those morons ever again.

Finished it up last night. Good finale I thought and a great series in all. The production value of the show is up there with all time shows and really captured the mystique and oddness of the whole thing.

 

[snogger]

Episode 6 of Reacher was intense.. To avoid spoilers I'll just add..

 

[3C's]

I didn't realize The Bear was a comedy/musical.

Golden Globes: 'The Bear' wins best television series (musical or comedy)

 

[Capella]

Last season of the crown was very uneven and all the focus on William sucked. But it was an excellent finale.

Enjoyed the show a lot and am pleased I can now return to never thinking about those morons ever again.

Finished it up last night. Good finale I thought and a great series in all. The production value of the show is up there with all time shows and really captured the mystique and oddness of the whole thing.

Production was off the charts good, I agree. Incredible to see. Thought the casting was generally good too.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I didn't realize The Bear was a comedy/musical.

Golden Globes: 'The Bear' wins best television series (musical or comedy)

I mean, the show is funny. They don't really have an in-between category (nor does the Emmys), so basically, for stuff that falls in between, 1/2 hour shows are "comedies" and 1 hour shows are "dramas."

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Watched that All The Light We Cannot See. It was well done but didn’t really capture my attention, probably because I was all hopped up on gummies and wine and was checking football scores, so I didn’t give it my full attention

 

[The General]

I didn't realize The Bear was a comedy/musical.

Golden Globes: 'The Bear' wins best television series (musical or comedy)

They def shoehorned it in there. Would have lost to Succession so I guess this worked out for them.

Show deserves the accolades. So great.

 

[shuke]

Watched that All The Light We Cannot See. It was well done but didn’t really capture my attention, probably because I was all hopped up on gummies and wine and was checking football scores, so I didn’t give it my full attention

You've really got a knack for this. Have you ever thought about giving up your current profession and becoming a movie critic?

 

[Sullie]

Last season of the crown was very uneven and all the focus on William sucked. But it was an excellent finale.

Enjoyed the show a lot and am pleased I can now return to never thinking about those morons ever again.

I have to echo your sentiments.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Watched that All The Light We Cannot See. It was well done but didn’t really capture my attention, probably because I was all hopped up on gummies and wine and was checking football scores, so I didn’t give it my full attention

Thought it was decent

 

[Zow]

Watched that All The Light We Cannot See. It was well done but didn’t really capture my attention, probably because I was all hopped up on gummies and wine and was checking football scores, so I didn’t give it my full attention

You've really got a knack for this. Have you ever thought about giving up your current profession and becoming a movie critic?

I mean in fairness he described me exactly as to how I'm usually watching TV shows so if his target audience is, well, me, he's the perfect critic.

 

[Zow]

Fool Me Once 6.5/10 (Netflix)

Wife and I binged this new Harlan Coben series this past weekend. Very in line with prior Coben series so if you liked those this is worth the watch. I'd describe the Coben shows like I would Robert Parker "Spencer" novels - completely mindless mysteries that hold your attention during the show/read but you'll immediately forget about it within moments of its conclusion. There is no stellar acting, there are laughably unbelievable plot points, and it runs on a little too long. But, it's entertaining enough if you like mysteries and like guessing how it'll end.

Note: I did predict this ending.

 

[Zow]

Last season of the crown was very uneven and all the focus on William sucked. But it was an excellent finale.

Enjoyed the show a lot and am pleased I can now return to never thinking about those morons ever again.

See, I can't stand the idea that a first world, civilized country still has a monarchy and I loathe anything about the British monarchy so this is exactly why I don't want to watch this show.

 

[TLEF316]

Echo the love for The Bear. Binged the whole thing (both seasons) over new years. Great show.

Absolutely couldn't stand the Richie character until the Forks episode. Just a great piece of TV and character development.

The Christmas episode was obviously absurd but insanely good. Jaime Lee Curtis just killed it

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Echo the love for The Bear. Binged the whole thing (both seasons) over new years. Great show.

Absolutely couldn't stand the Richie character until the Forks episode. Just a great piece of TV and character development.

The Christmas episode was obviously absurd but insanely good. Jaime Lee Curtis just killed it

I had the opposite reaction to Forks in terms of the Richie character. I didn't hate the episode overall but didn't buy the change in Richie's character in Forks. I thought he was a great character up until that episode and just can't accept that spending a few nights polishing forks at a fancy restaurant could so fundamentally change who he is. I loved Fishes - one of the best episodes of any show in recent years - but I thought season 2 was far inferior to 1. There was a ton of filler in the first 4-5 episodes but the finale really put me over the edge. The ridiculous contrived part of Carmy being locked in the cooler and babbling nonsense not knowing Claire is outside the door had me questioning the whole season.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Echo the love for The Bear. Binged the whole thing (both seasons) over new years. Great show.

Absolutely couldn't stand the Richie character until the Forks episode. Just a great piece of TV and character development.

The Christmas episode was obviously absurd but insanely good. Jaime Lee Curtis just killed it

I had the opposite reaction to Forks in terms of the Richie character. I didn't hate the episode overall but didn't buy the change in Richie's character in Forks. I thought he was a great character up until that episode and just can't accept that spending a few nights polishing forks at a fancy restaurant could so fundamentally change who he is. I loved Fishes - one of the best episodes of any show in recent years - but I thought season 2 was far inferior to 1. There was a ton of filler in the first 4-5 episodes but the finale really put me over the edge. The ridiculous contrived part of Carmy being locked in the cooler and babbling nonsense not knowing Claire is outside the door had me questioning the whole season.

I don't think his week of forks fundamentally changed who Richie is. He's still a loudmouth whose heart is in the right place. What changed is that at least the last 5-ish years of his life -- from the time of the Fishes episode (maybe before, we don't know) until just before he spent his week at the high-end restaurant -- were defined by failure, and it messed with his psyche, and his week of forks showed him a path toward overcoming that. Perfectly believable.

But yeah, the cooler thing was very Three's Company.

Season 1 was more consistent but season 2 had higher peaks -- mainly Fishes and Forks, also the drama around the fire suppression system and many of the Marcus scenes in Europe.

 

[El Floppo]

Echo the love for The Bear. Binged the whole thing (both seasons) over new years. Great show.

Absolutely couldn't stand the Richie character until the Forks episode. Just a great piece of TV and character development.

The Christmas episode was obviously absurd but insanely good. Jaime Lee Curtis just killed it

I had the opposite reaction to Forks in terms of the Richie character. I didn't hate the episode overall but didn't buy the change in Richie's character in Forks. I thought he was a great character up until that episode and just can't accept that spending a few nights polishing forks at a fancy restaurant could so fundamentally change who he is. I loved Fishes - one of the best episodes of any show in recent years - but I thought season 2 was far inferior to 1. There was a ton of filler in the first 4-5 episodes but the finale really put me over the edge. The ridiculous contrived part of Carmy being locked in the cooler and babbling nonsense not knowing Claire is outside the door had me questioning the whole season.

I'm kinda with you on Richie and the cooler scene.

I would've preferred a less abrupt catharsis for Richie... Maybe stretched out over a few episodes, started by "I wear suits now" in practice, but eventually getting to him actually wearing suits now in behavior.

As soon as I saw where the cooler scene was going, it felt like a too cheap plot contrivance not befitting the writing that has come before from that team. Seemed like something out of network drama, not this.

My favorite part of the fishes episode was Mylaney and wife who were able to stay somehow on the fringe of the mayhem, giving a more sympatico viewpoint for the typical tv viewer.

But I maintain that the scene between dork BIL and Jamie Lee was breathtaking. He just killed that scene.. as good as Jamie Lee was (and it's easy to be distracted by an actor letting loose as "crazy")

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Echo the love for The Bear. Binged the whole thing (both seasons) over new years. Great show.

Absolutely couldn't stand the Richie character until the Forks episode. Just a great piece of TV and character development.

The Christmas episode was obviously absurd but insanely good. Jaime Lee Curtis just killed it

I had the opposite reaction to Forks in terms of the Richie character. I didn't hate the episode overall but didn't buy the change in Richie's character in Forks. I thought he was a great character up until that episode and just can't accept that spending a few nights polishing forks at a fancy restaurant could so fundamentally change who he is. I loved Fishes - one of the best episodes of any show in recent years - but I thought season 2 was far inferior to 1. There was a ton of filler in the first 4-5 episodes but the finale really put me over the edge. The ridiculous contrived part of Carmy being locked in the cooler and babbling nonsense not knowing Claire is outside the door had me questioning the whole season.

I'm kinda with you on Richie and the cooler scene.

I would've preferred a less abrupt catharsis for Richie... Maybe stretched out over a few episodes, started by "I wear suits now" in practice, but eventually getting to him actually wearing suits now in behavior.

As soon as I saw where the cooler scene was going, it felt like a too cheap plot contrivance not befitting the writing that has come before from that team. Seemed like something out of network drama, not this.

My favorite part of the fishes episode was Mylaney and wife who were able to stay somehow on the fringe of the mayhem, giving a more sympatico viewpoint for the typical tv viewer.

But I maintain that the scene between dork BIL and Jamie Lee was breathtaking. He just killed that scene.. as good as Jamie Lee was (and it's easy to be distracted by an actor letting loose as "crazy")

One of the best things that the writers and actors did with the Mulaney and Sarah Paulson characters was keep them on the periphery but show them genuinely connected to the other characters. And especially to convey that they live in New York, far, far away from the chaos that is the Berzotto family, and prefer it that way.

 

[Zow]

Echo the love for The Bear. Binged the whole thing (both seasons) over new years. Great show.

Absolutely couldn't stand the Richie character until the Forks episode. Just a great piece of TV and character development.

The Christmas episode was obviously absurd but insanely good. Jaime Lee Curtis just killed it

I had the opposite reaction to Forks in terms of the Richie character. I didn't hate the episode overall but didn't buy the change in Richie's character in Forks. I thought he was a great character up until that episode and just can't accept that spending a few nights polishing forks at a fancy restaurant could so fundamentally change who he is. I loved Fishes - one of the best episodes of any show in recent years - but I thought season 2 was far inferior to 1. There was a ton of filler in the first 4-5 episodes but the finale really put me over the edge. The ridiculous contrived part of Carmy being locked in the cooler and babbling nonsense not knowing Claire is outside the door had me questioning the whole season.

I'm kinda with you on Richie and the cooler scene.

I would've preferred a less abrupt catharsis for Richie... Maybe stretched out over a few episodes, started by "I wear suits now" in practice, but eventually getting to him actually wearing suits now in behavior.

As soon as I saw where the cooler scene was going, it felt like a too cheap plot contrivance not befitting the writing that has come before from that team. Seemed like something out of network drama, not this.

My favorite part of the fishes episode was Mylaney and wife who were able to stay somehow on the fringe of the mayhem, giving a more sympatico viewpoint for the typical tv viewer.

But I maintain that the scene between dork BIL and Jamie Lee was breathtaking. He just killed that scene.. as good as Jamie Lee was (and it's easy to be distracted by an actor letting loose as "crazy")

Agree with the bold as I found the cooler scene to also cheapen what was otherwise a stellar season. I saw it coming and was genuinely mad that the cooler scene ruined Carmy's relationship. To me, that relationship already had enough realistic and problematic issues that they didn't have to kill it. In other words, I felt the show would be justified in giving Carmy this one nice thing and the "Fishes" episode along with Carmy's mom refusing to come into the restaurant was just overkill on the writers' part.

 

[General Malaise]

Echo the love for The Bear. Binged the whole thing (both seasons) over new years. Great show.

Absolutely couldn't stand the Richie character until the Forks episode. Just a great piece of TV and character development.

The Christmas episode was obviously absurd but insanely good. Jaime Lee Curtis just killed it

I had the opposite reaction to Forks in terms of the Richie character. I didn't hate the episode overall but didn't buy the change in Richie's character in Forks. I thought he was a great character up until that episode and just can't accept that spending a few nights polishing forks at a fancy restaurant could so fundamentally change who he is. I loved Fishes - one of the best episodes of any show in recent years - but I thought season 2 was far inferior to 1. There was a ton of filler in the first 4-5 episodes but the finale really put me over the edge. The ridiculous contrived part of Carmy being locked in the cooler and babbling nonsense not knowing Claire is outside the door had me questioning the whole season.

I don't think his week of forks fundamentally changed who Richie is. He's still a loudmouth whose heart is in the right place. What changed is that at least the last 5-ish years of his life -- from the time of the Fishes episode (maybe before, we don't know) until just before he spent his week at the high-end restaurant -- were defined by failure, and it messed with his psyche, and his week of forks showed him a path toward overcoming that. Perfectly believable.

But yeah, the cooler thing was very Three's Company.

Season 1 was more consistent but season 2 had higher peaks -- mainly Fishes and Forks, also the drama around the fire suppression system and many of the Marcus scenes in Europe.

Marcus in Europe was incredibly well done. Loved it. It was nice to get a peaceful, tranquil, moving look into a character who deserved a spotlight for an episode. So so so good.

 

[El Floppo]

Echo the love for The Bear. Binged the whole thing (both seasons) over new years. Great show.

Absolutely couldn't stand the Richie character until the Forks episode. Just a great piece of TV and character development.

The Christmas episode was obviously absurd but insanely good. Jaime Lee Curtis just killed it

I had the opposite reaction to Forks in terms of the Richie character. I didn't hate the episode overall but didn't buy the change in Richie's character in Forks. I thought he was a great character up until that episode and just can't accept that spending a few nights polishing forks at a fancy restaurant could so fundamentally change who he is. I loved Fishes - one of the best episodes of any show in recent years - but I thought season 2 was far inferior to 1. There was a ton of filler in the first 4-5 episodes but the finale really put me over the edge. The ridiculous contrived part of Carmy being locked in the cooler and babbling nonsense not knowing Claire is outside the door had me questioning the whole season.

I'm kinda with you on Richie and the cooler scene.

I would've preferred a less abrupt catharsis for Richie... Maybe stretched out over a few episodes, started by "I wear suits now" in practice, but eventually getting to him actually wearing suits now in behavior.

As soon as I saw where the cooler scene was going, it felt like a too cheap plot contrivance not befitting the writing that has come before from that team. Seemed like something out of network drama, not this.

My favorite part of the fishes episode was Mylaney and wife who were able to stay somehow on the fringe of the mayhem, giving a more sympatico viewpoint for the typical tv viewer.

But I maintain that the scene between dork BIL and Jamie Lee was breathtaking. He just killed that scene.. as good as Jamie Lee was (and it's easy to be distracted by an actor letting loose as "crazy")

Agree with the bold as I found the cooler scene to also cheapen what was otherwise a stellar season. I saw it coming and was genuinely mad that the cooler scene ruined Carmy's relationship. To me, that relationship already had enough realistic and problematic issues that they didn't have to kill it. In other words, I felt the show would be justified in giving Carmy this one nice thing and the "Fishes" episode along with Carmy's mom refusing to come into the restaurant was just overkill on the writers' part.

Sounds like you didn't like Jamie Lees character?

I didn't mind her not going in (and as said, flat out loved the scene). and while overkill, I liked being thrown into her addiction/madness straight away in Fishes.

 

[Zow]

Echo the love for The Bear. Binged the whole thing (both seasons) over new years. Great show.

Absolutely couldn't stand the Richie character until the Forks episode. Just a great piece of TV and character development.

The Christmas episode was obviously absurd but insanely good. Jaime Lee Curtis just killed it

I had the opposite reaction to Forks in terms of the Richie character. I didn't hate the episode overall but didn't buy the change in Richie's character in Forks. I thought he was a great character up until that episode and just can't accept that spending a few nights polishing forks at a fancy restaurant could so fundamentally change who he is. I loved Fishes - one of the best episodes of any show in recent years - but I thought season 2 was far inferior to 1. There was a ton of filler in the first 4-5 episodes but the finale really put me over the edge. The ridiculous contrived part of Carmy being locked in the cooler and babbling nonsense not knowing Claire is outside the door had me questioning the whole season.

I'm kinda with you on Richie and the cooler scene.

I would've preferred a less abrupt catharsis for Richie... Maybe stretched out over a few episodes, started by "I wear suits now" in practice, but eventually getting to him actually wearing suits now in behavior.

As soon as I saw where the cooler scene was going, it felt like a too cheap plot contrivance not befitting the writing that has come before from that team. Seemed like something out of network drama, not this.

My favorite part of the fishes episode was Mylaney and wife who were able to stay somehow on the fringe of the mayhem, giving a more sympatico viewpoint for the typical tv viewer.

But I maintain that the scene between dork BIL and Jamie Lee was breathtaking. He just killed that scene.. as good as Jamie Lee was (and it's easy to be distracted by an actor letting loose as "crazy")

Agree with the bold as I found the cooler scene to also cheapen what was otherwise a stellar season. I saw it coming and was genuinely mad that the cooler scene ruined Carmy's relationship. To me, that relationship already had enough realistic and problematic issues that they didn't have to kill it. In other words, I felt the show would be justified in giving Carmy this one nice thing and the "Fishes" episode along with Carmy's mom refusing to come into the restaurant was just overkill on the writers' part.

Sounds like you didn't like Jamie Lees character?

I didn't mind her not going in (and as said, flat out loved the scene). and while overkill, I liked being thrown into her addiction/madness straight away in Fishes.

If I gave that impression, I didn't mean to. I though Jamie Lee's role as his mom was fantastically acted and I didn't take issue with her not going in.

I just thought that on top of that depressing scene that Carmy didn't also have to botch his relationship with his girlfriend. In other words, I thought the combination of the two "sad" events on his opening night with his workers kicking *** was too much. In other words, Carmy can occasionally have a nice thing.

 

[SWC]

Watched that All The Light We Cannot See. It was well done but didn’t really capture my attention, probably because I was all hopped up on gummies and wine and was checking football scores, so I didn’t give it my full attention

You've really got a knack for this. Have you ever thought about giving up your current profession and becoming a movie critic?

i watched something i think but i was high as hell and that there is your review take that to the bank brochachos

 

[El Floppo]

Echo the love for The Bear. Binged the whole thing (both seasons) over new years. Great show.

Absolutely couldn't stand the Richie character until the Forks episode. Just a great piece of TV and character development.

The Christmas episode was obviously absurd but insanely good. Jaime Lee Curtis just killed it

I had the opposite reaction to Forks in terms of the Richie character. I didn't hate the episode overall but didn't buy the change in Richie's character in Forks. I thought he was a great character up until that episode and just can't accept that spending a few nights polishing forks at a fancy restaurant could so fundamentally change who he is. I loved Fishes - one of the best episodes of any show in recent years - but I thought season 2 was far inferior to 1. There was a ton of filler in the first 4-5 episodes but the finale really put me over the edge. The ridiculous contrived part of Carmy being locked in the cooler and babbling nonsense not knowing Claire is outside the door had me questioning the whole season.

I'm kinda with you on Richie and the cooler scene.

I would've preferred a less abrupt catharsis for Richie... Maybe stretched out over a few episodes, started by "I wear suits now" in practice, but eventually getting to him actually wearing suits now in behavior.

As soon as I saw where the cooler scene was going, it felt like a too cheap plot contrivance not befitting the writing that has come before from that team. Seemed like something out of network drama, not this.

My favorite part of the fishes episode was Mylaney and wife who were able to stay somehow on the fringe of the mayhem, giving a more sympatico viewpoint for the typical tv viewer.

But I maintain that the scene between dork BIL and Jamie Lee was breathtaking. He just killed that scene.. as good as Jamie Lee was (and it's easy to be distracted by an actor letting loose as "crazy")

Agree with the bold as I found the cooler scene to also cheapen what was otherwise a stellar season. I saw it coming and was genuinely mad that the cooler scene ruined Carmy's relationship. To me, that relationship already had enough realistic and problematic issues that they didn't have to kill it. In other words, I felt the show would be justified in giving Carmy this one nice thing and the "Fishes" episode along with Carmy's mom refusing to come into the restaurant was just overkill on the writers' part.

Sounds like you didn't like Jamie Lees character?

I didn't mind her not going in (and as said, flat out loved the scene). and while overkill, I liked being thrown into her addiction/madness straight away in Fishes.

If I gave that impression, I didn't mean to. I though Jamie Lee's role as his mom was fantastically acted and I didn't take issue with her going in.

I just thought that on top of that depressing scene that Carmy didn't also have to botch his relationship with his girlfriend. In other words, I thought the combination of the two "sad" events was too much.

Gotcha... I misread.

For me, mom not going in made it less depressing not more. It was going to be another goofy Trainwreck like Fishes... And we already had that scene. I thought they played it really well with the writing there. And I was unhappily anticipating her blowing **** up in the restaurant... Relieved they didn't go that road.

 

[Zow]

Echo the love for The Bear. Binged the whole thing (both seasons) over new years. Great show.

Absolutely couldn't stand the Richie character until the Forks episode. Just a great piece of TV and character development.

The Christmas episode was obviously absurd but insanely good. Jaime Lee Curtis just killed it

I had the opposite reaction to Forks in terms of the Richie character. I didn't hate the episode overall but didn't buy the change in Richie's character in Forks. I thought he was a great character up until that episode and just can't accept that spending a few nights polishing forks at a fancy restaurant could so fundamentally change who he is. I loved Fishes - one of the best episodes of any show in recent years - but I thought season 2 was far inferior to 1. There was a ton of filler in the first 4-5 episodes but the finale really put me over the edge. The ridiculous contrived part of Carmy being locked in the cooler and babbling nonsense not knowing Claire is outside the door had me questioning the whole season.

I'm kinda with you on Richie and the cooler scene.

I would've preferred a less abrupt catharsis for Richie... Maybe stretched out over a few episodes, started by "I wear suits now" in practice, but eventually getting to him actually wearing suits now in behavior.

As soon as I saw where the cooler scene was going, it felt like a too cheap plot contrivance not befitting the writing that has come before from that team. Seemed like something out of network drama, not this.

My favorite part of the fishes episode was Mylaney and wife who were able to stay somehow on the fringe of the mayhem, giving a more sympatico viewpoint for the typical tv viewer.

But I maintain that the scene between dork BIL and Jamie Lee was breathtaking. He just killed that scene.. as good as Jamie Lee was (and it's easy to be distracted by an actor letting loose as "crazy")

Agree with the bold as I found the cooler scene to also cheapen what was otherwise a stellar season. I saw it coming and was genuinely mad that the cooler scene ruined Carmy's relationship. To me, that relationship already had enough realistic and problematic issues that they didn't have to kill it. In other words, I felt the show would be justified in giving Carmy this one nice thing and the "Fishes" episode along with Carmy's mom refusing to come into the restaurant was just overkill on the writers' part.

Sounds like you didn't like Jamie Lees character?

I didn't mind her not going in (and as said, flat out loved the scene). and while overkill, I liked being thrown into her addiction/madness straight away in Fishes.

If I gave that impression, I didn't mean to. I though Jamie Lee's role as his mom was fantastically acted and I didn't take issue with her going in.

I just thought that on top of that depressing scene that Carmy didn't also have to botch his relationship with his girlfriend. In other words, I thought the combination of the two "sad" events was too much.

Gotcha... I misread.

For me, mom not going in made it less depressing not more. It was going to be another goofy Trainwreck like Fishes... And we already had that scene. I thought they played it really well with the writing there. And I was unhappily anticipating her blowing **** up in the restaurant... Relieved they didn't go that road.

Interesting, I didn't think of it that way. I took it more so as this was Carmy's chance to impress his mom and make her proud and his mom deprived him of that.