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Yes, I definitely will be doing that, probably later tonight. And I'll also post the average number of dollars spent at each position. There's really no end to the kind of fun you can have with these sorts of queries, so I hope to run some more interesting statistics as well. But it depends on how much time I can find in the next few days. I definitely will get a list of most popular players up soon though.I know the most popular player overall is Ben Watson. I'm pretty sure Frank Gore is second (he was near the top even before the Barlow trade). If memory serves, the top WRs were Glenn, Troy Williamson, Houshmandzadeh, and Michael Clayton. My memory is hazy, but names that pop into my head on QBs are Simms, Delhomme, Rivers, and Palmer.More later...Fundamentally the contest is about finding value amongst the fixed values (not unlike a precalculated salary cap league)...what's interesting is to see which players are getting selected most, indicating that a majority of participants believe they are "values"...two names I'm seeing a lot are Willie Parker and Terry Glenn...I'm wondering if Doug can run a quick query over the entries and post some information on maybe the top 10 values (by collective thinking) by posotion...I think the results would be very interesting...
Looks alot like mine;QB Carson Palmer 22QB Daunte Culpepper 18QB JP Losman 6RB Rudi Johnson 42RB Willie Parker 32RB Fred Taylor 17RB Frank Gore 10RB Verand Morency 1WR Chris Chambers 39WR Joe Horn 16WR Jerry Porter 7WR Isaac Bruce 6WR Troy Williamson 4WR Braylon Edwards 2WR Chris Henry 2TE Ben Watson 9TE Heath Miller 7PK Shayne Graham 3PK Jeff Wilkins 2TD New York Giants 3TD Cincinnati Bengals 2 Total value: 250Cinci homer hereThis is what I gotosition Player CostQB Carson Palmer 22QB Daunte Culpepper 18QB Chad Pennington 7RB Rudi Johnson 42RB Willie Parker 32RB Reggie Bush 22RB Frank Gore 10RB Jerious Norwood 2WR T.J. Housh 23WR Lee Evans 14WR Terry Glenn 13WR Michael Clayton 9WR Ernest Wilford 5WR Troy Williamson 4WR Braylon Edwards 2TE Ben Watson 9TE Heath Miller 7PK Jay Feely 2PK Stephen Gostkowski 1TD New England Patriots 3TD Miami Dolphins 3 Total value: 250

Call in sickYes, I definitely will be doing that, probably later tonight. And I'll also post the average number of dollars spent at each position. There's really no end to the kind of fun you can have with these sorts of queries, so I hope to run some more interesting statistics as well. But it depends on how much time I can find in the next few days. I definitely will get a list of most popular players up soon though.I know the most popular player overall is Ben Watson. I'm pretty sure Frank Gore is second (he was near the top even before the Barlow trade). If memory serves, the top WRs were Glenn, Troy Williamson, Houshmandzadeh, and Michael Clayton. My memory is hazy, but names that pop into my head on QBs are Simms, Delhomme, Rivers, and Palmer.Fundamentally the contest is about finding value amongst the fixed values (not unlike a precalculated salary cap league)...what's interesting is to see which players are getting selected most, indicating that a majority of participants believe they are "values"...two names I'm seeing a lot are Willie Parker and Terry Glenn...
I'm wondering if Doug can run a quick query over the entries and post some information on maybe the top 10 values (by collective thinking) by posotion...I think the results would be very interesting...
More later...

Interesting that one name I haven't seen on any of the posted rosters is the other Dallas WR. You mean he isn't a value?Yes, I definitely will be doing that, probably later tonight. And I'll also post the average number of dollars spent at each position. There's really no end to the kind of fun you can have with these sorts of queries, so I hope to run some more interesting statistics as well. But it depends on how much time I can find in the next few days. I definitely will get a list of most popular players up soon though.I know the most popular player overall is Ben Watson. I'm pretty sure Frank Gore is second (he was near the top even before the Barlow trade). If memory serves, the top WRs were Glenn, Troy Williamson, Houshmandzadeh, and Michael Clayton. My memory is hazy, but names that pop into my head on QBs are Simms, Delhomme, Rivers, and Palmer.More later...Fundamentally the contest is about finding value amongst the fixed values (not unlike a precalculated salary cap league)...what's interesting is to see which players are getting selected most, indicating that a majority of participants believe they are "values"...two names I'm seeing a lot are Willie Parker and Terry Glenn...I'm wondering if Doug can run a quick query over the entries and post some information on maybe the top 10 values (by collective thinking) by posotion...I think the results would be very interesting...

...said the man who obviously doesn't know who he's talking to.....said the man who has obviously never won a fantasy football leagueRB depth in PPR survivor contests doesn't always equal success. Personally, in a contest such as this, it is my inclination to pick as many high reception receivers as possible. Stud WRs can carry a team when you have steady, but non-flashy RBs.Very, VERYdickey moe said:I am not. You have to take your chances some place. A stud RB is irreplaceable and will not come out of any of the under $10 players. There will be a few stud recievers below the $10 mark but you must be lucky enough to pick them.I am surprised by the number of people who are spending peanuts on 7 WRs in a PPR contest and (IMO) paying through the nose for a stud RBIMO, you have a much better chance at some cheap WR stepping up and becoming at least a semi-stud than lucking out and winning the lottery with the one Mike Anderson or Willie Parker needle in a haystack that pops up each season.
Some people never learn....

Thanks! That link wasn't working for me earlier.Here is my attempt to build a team with 2 of the 3 stud RBs.QB - Jake Plummer - 16QB - Kurt Warner - 15QB - Brian Griese - 6 (a cheap potential starter)37RB - LaDainian Tomlinson - 71RB - Shaun Alexander - 69RB - Brandon Jacobs - 2RB - Cedric Cobbs - 1 (Being a Denver RB he'll probably have a few decent weeks) RB - Michael Bennett - 1 (in case LJ goes down)144WR - Javon Walker - 23WR - T.J. Houshmandzadeh - 23WR - Marty Booker - 2 (always has a couple good weeks)WR - Doug Gabriel - 1 (may emerge in New England with the Q's about Branch)WR - Dante Hall - 1 (Usually has 1 or 2 good games)WR - Bryant Johnson - 1WR - David Boston - 1 (just in case)52TE - Ben Watson - 9TE - Leonard Pope - 110PK - Stephen Gostkowski - 1PK - Sebastian Janikowski - 12TD - New England Patriots - 3TD - Cincinnati Bengals - 25250 - TotalMain page, Hit week 1 content, the check/print team on the right![]()
Most people don't understand how survivor contests work. Most people load up on RB depth and the incremental increase they realize by spending money there is at most 10 to 12 points a week, while they scrimp on their WRs and try to catch lightning in a bottle every week it actually ends up costing people points when their WR2 and WR3 only put up 8 points combined. This is even more pronounce in PPR contests. Historically, RBs score more consistant week to week than WRs. What this means is that in order to protect against the off week, you need to have a stable of WRs who have 60+ receptions. The difference between a WR with 50 receptions and a WR with 80 receptions is 30 pts. If you get two WR with 80+ receptions, then you have added the equivalent of 600 yds for a running back.IMO, taking lesser RB starters allows you to have more high reception WRs on your roster which I beleive is an advantage. In Fitz, Chambers, Housh, Glenn, Engram, Bryant and Givens I beleive I have a group that will put up high receptions and be protected against down weeks. I will be happy if I get WR2/WR3 production week to week out of my RBs.As for the never winning comment, I made the finals in FBG staff survivor contests in the three in which I have participated.Uhhhh...have you read this thread yet? I have already made comments on what I think the recipe to win would be. It's not taking high priced WRs. Any player can have a bad game. With WR it's magnified because they are dependant on QB's who may also have a bad game. By no fault of their own, it would then make them have a bad game. I would much rather stockpile up on middle of the road type WR that should get solid, not spectacular numbers each week......said the man who has obviously never won a fantasy football leagueRB depth in PPR survivor contests doesn't always equal success. Personally, in a contest such as this, it is my inclination to pick as many high reception receivers as possible. Stud WRs can carry a team when you have steady, but non-flashy RBs.Very, VERYdickey moe said:I am not. You have to take your chances some place. A stud RB is irreplaceable and will not come out of any of the under $10 players. There will be a few stud recievers below the $10 mark but you must be lucky enough to pick them.I am surprised by the number of people who are spending peanuts on 7 WRs in a PPR contest and (IMO) paying through the nose for a stud RBIMO, you have a much better chance at some cheap WR stepping up and becoming at least a semi-stud than lucking out and winning the lottery with the one Mike Anderson or Willie Parker needle in a haystack that pops up each season.
Some people never learn....
Are people not allowed to state their opinions or takes? Why is he suddenly tossed aside as not capable of winning a league? If you feel different then tell the rest of us what your recipe is for success so we can all learn. Thanks.
I like the way you think. My team:QB - Peyton Manning - 29QB - Chris Simms - 10QB - J.P. Losman - 6Only need 1 or 2 good games from Sims/LosmanRB - LaDainian Tomlinson - 71RB - Willie Parker - 32RB - Reggie Bush - 22RB - Michael Turner - 5RB - Vernand Morency - 1Started with Rudi, but upgraded to LT. Thought about Gore instead of Bush, but the drop off is bigger than the gain I could find at WR for the same cash. Turner's a cheap handcuff in case anything knocks out LT for a week or two.WR - Terry Glenn - 13WR - Michael Clayton - 9WR - Antonio Bryant - 9WR - Isaac Bruce - 6WR - Nate Burleson - 6WR - Troy Williamson - 4WR - Travis Taylor - 2No studs, but a lot of guys capable of occasional big games. With Manning & LT for consistent scoring, that's all I should need here (as long as they don't time all their big weeks together).TE - Ben Watson - 9TE - Heath Miller - 7Originally had Heap, but downgraded to get LT. PK - Jeff Reed - 2PK - David Akers - 2ehhh, kickersTD - Miami Dolphins - 3TD - Cincinnati Bengals - 2Hopefully Cincy continues to be a turnover machine.According to DD, my worst week is Week 3 (LT's bye), but that's a good thing--only have to be in the top 8000 to continue.QB - Peyton Manning - 29 QB - Chris Simms - 10QB - J.P. Losman - 6Palmer is best value, but Manning will be bigger scorer. Only see Simms counting in the bye week and perhaps one other.RB - Shaun Alexander - 69RB - Willie Parker - 32RB - Frank Gore - 10RB - Jerious Norwood - 2RB - Derrick Blaylock - 1Had to get one of the top 3. Kind of wish I had spent $2 more for LT. Wanted to bump up and get Rudi instead of Willie but could not sqeeze $10 off.WR - Reggie Wayne - 35WR - Lee Evans - 14WR - Terry Glenn - 13WR - Bobby Engram - 4WR - Troy Williamson - 4WR - Doug Gabriel - 1WR - Ronald Curry - 1I think Reggie may end up with bigger numbers than Harrison this year. Took a chance that Evans and Glenn will put up very good numbers. I think Glen will be Bledsoe'f favorite target, not sure about Evans as Buffalo might suck. A couple of my bottom four will produce decent seasons.TE - Ben Watson - 9TE - Tony Scheffler - 1Watson is easily the best value at TE. Could end up #2 TE in the league. Tony will surprise some, but not really counting on that.PK - Jason Elam - 3PK - Stephen Gostkowski - 1Good offenses, good kickers.TD - Miami Dolphins - 3TD - Cincinnati Bengals - 2Miami gets lots of sacks, Cincinnati gets lots of turnovers and thus scoring chances. Thats all that counts in this.
I feel bad for people applying the same rules as their redraft to a survivor-style game.Most people don't understand how survivor contests work. Most people load up on RB depth and the incremental increase they realize by spending money there is at most 10 to 12 points a week, while they scrimp on their WRs and try to catch lightning in a bottle every week it actually ends up costing people points when their WR2 and WR3 only put up 8 points combined. This is even more pronounce in PPR contests. Historically, RBs score more consistant week to week than WRs. What this means is that in order to protect against the off week, you need to have a stable of WRs who have 60+ receptions. The difference between a WR with 50 receptions and a WR with 80 receptions is 30 pts. If you get two WR with 80+ receptions, then you have added the equivalent of 600 yds for a running back.IMO, taking lesser RB starters allows you to have more high reception WRs on your roster which I beleive is an advantage. In Fitz, Chambers, Housh, Glenn, Engram, Bryant and Givens I beleive I have a group that will put up high receptions and be protected against down weeks. I will be happy if I get WR2/WR3 production week to week out of my RBs.As for the never winning comment, I made the finals in FBG staff survivor contests in the three in which I have participated.Uhhhh...have you read this thread yet? I have already made comments on what I think the recipe to win would be. It's not taking high priced WRs. Any player can have a bad game. With WR it's magnified because they are dependant on QB's who may also have a bad game. By no fault of their own, it would then make them have a bad game. I would much rather stockpile up on middle of the road type WR that should get solid, not spectacular numbers each week......said the man who has obviously never won a fantasy football leagueRB depth in PPR survivor contests doesn't always equal success. Personally, in a contest such as this, it is my inclination to pick as many high reception receivers as possible. Stud WRs can carry a team when you have steady, but non-flashy RBs.Very, VERYdickey moe said:I am not. You have to take your chances some place. A stud RB is irreplaceable and will not come out of any of the under $10 players. There will be a few stud recievers below the $10 mark but you must be lucky enough to pick them.I am surprised by the number of people who are spending peanuts on 7 WRs in a PPR contest and (IMO) paying through the nose for a stud RBIMO, you have a much better chance at some cheap WR stepping up and becoming at least a semi-stud than lucking out and winning the lottery with the one Mike Anderson or Willie Parker needle in a haystack that pops up each season.
Some people never learn....
Are people not allowed to state their opinions or takes? Why is he suddenly tossed aside as not capable of winning a league? If you feel different then tell the rest of us what your recipe is for success so we can all learn. Thanks.
POS NAME TEAM COST BYE $$$ startersSOS-------------------------------------------------QB1 JDelhomme CAR 15 9 31 288.3QB2 CSimms TB 10 4 QB3 JLosman BUF 6 8 -------------------------------------------------RB1 RJohnson CIN 42 5 103 665RB2 WParker PIT 32 4 RB3 FTaylor JAX 17 6 RB4 FGore SF 10 5 RB5 MMorris SEA 2 5 -------------------------------------------------WR1 SSmith CAR 49 9 97 730.9WR2 KJohnson CAR 11 9 WR3 GJennings GB 2 6 WR4 TWilliamson MIN 4 6 WR5 TGlenn DAL 13 3 WR6 LEvans BUF 14 8 WR7 BEngram SEA 4 5 -------------------------------------------------TE1 TScheffler DEN 1 4 10 99.4TE2 BWatson NE 9 6 -------------------------------------------------PK1 JFeely NYG 2 4 3 117PK2 SGostkowski NE 1 6 -------------------------------------------------DT1 Cardinals ARI 2 9 6 159.7DT2 Seahawks SEA 4 5
With it now locked, is there a link for us to see our teams?
Main page, Hit week 1 content, the check/print team on the right![]()
How can I access my lineup now that the contest is closed?
With it now locked, is there a link for us to see our teams?Main page, Hit week 1 content, the check/print team on the right
How can I access my lineup now that the contest is closed?
Thanks.QB - Byron Leftwich - 12QB - Chris Simms - 10QB - Philip Rivers - 10RB - Willie Parker - 32RB - Cedric Benson - 18RB - DeAngelo Williams - 11RB - Frank Gore - 10RB - Jerious Norwood - 2WR - Plaxico Burress - 30WR - Roy Williams - 27WR - Javon Walker - 23WR - Matt Jones - 14WR - Michael Clayton - 9WR - Chris Henry - 2WR - Greg Jennings - 2TE - Ben Watson - 9TE - Vernon Davis - 7PK - Adam Vinatieri - 4PK - Neil Rackers - 4TD - Chicago Bears - 8TD - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - 6
This is a very good point for those of you who have not done this before. If you are going to have problems with bye weeks or strong D's faced by your studs, you want this to happen early in the season. The first few weeks are lay ups. If you have bye week problems or have a couple studs get shut down in weeks 7 or 8 you're done. That killed me two years ago. That year I had DD, KJones, and Tiki and would've rolled through the rest of the season with the way those three finished (DD and Tiki in particular with PPR) but I had problems in week 8 and missed the cut by a few points.....According to DD, my worst week is Week 3 (LT's bye), but that's a good thing--only have to be in the top 8000 to continue.
Gore and Terry Glenn, both perceived to be cheap at $10 and $13.Frank Gore on a ton of teams, not surprising.