Subscriber Contest to be Unveiled by Wednesday Morning (2 Viewers)

[BroadwayG]

I hope a lot of Calvin Johnson owners get booted this week.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Fascinating. Only 28 teams have both Foster and Tate. Tate seemed like cheap insurance to me.

Handcuffing is a losing proposition in this contest IMO.

Depends on the cost of the handcuff imo

e.g. RGIII and Cousins for a combined $23 seems like a good deal. Vick/Foles for $16 was probably also a decent bet if you believe in the Eagles offense.

And, I also think for it to work it has to be a true handcuff, not simply a RBBC situation, where both players have limited value when both are healthy. I think it needs to be an all-or-nothing proposition.

Why do you want to commit to having dead money on your roster?

I always have some "dead" money on my roster - guys who end up not scoring for my team. This year, I did grab RGIII, and for an extra $3 bought insurance for when he gets hurt. So I looked at more like buying the Redskins QB for $23 - which I thought was fair value. I liked that combo more than the less expensive Vick/Foles. With the flexible roster size, it seems smart to hedge certain bets.

Is Cousins going to win this for you if RG3 goes down?

 

[Sinn Fein]

Fascinating. Only 28 teams have both Foster and Tate. Tate seemed like cheap insurance to me.

Handcuffing is a losing proposition in this contest IMO.

Depends on the cost of the handcuff imo

e.g. RGIII and Cousins for a combined $23 seems like a good deal. Vick/Foles for $16 was probably also a decent bet if you believe in the Eagles offense.

And, I also think for it to work it has to be a true handcuff, not simply a RBBC situation, where both players have limited value when both are healthy. I think it needs to be an all-or-nothing proposition.

Why do you want to commit to having dead money on your roster?

I always have some "dead" money on my roster - guys who end up not scoring for my team. This year, I did grab RGIII, and for an extra $3 bought insurance for when he gets hurt. So I looked at more like buying the Redskins QB for $23 - which I thought was fair value. I liked that combo more than the less expensive Vick/Foles. With the flexible roster size, it seems smart to hedge certain bets.

Is Cousins going to win this for you if RG3 goes down?

Maybe - if he plays well enough to cover P. Manning's bye week. I also think he has more upside with the Redskins than I thought Foles had with the Eagles. I think, in general, the "pistol" QBs will outscore the "traditional" QBs, but I also think there is a good chance that QBs like RGIII, Vick, Kaepernick will be injured and not finish the season. So - while I like their upside - not playing is a big downside.

 

[Army Eye]

$5?! You've got to be kidding me.

Get 500-1000 people to buy at $2-3

Get 100 people to buy at $5

Poor pricing strategy....Greeeeedy.

It's not the couple bucks... it's the principle. No thanks.

Your understanding of economics is apparently far beyond mine. Why would the number of buys increase tenfold for a difference of $2-3 in price?

 

[BroadwayG]

$5?! You've got to be kidding me.

Get 500-1000 people to buy at $2-3

Get 100 people to buy at $5

Poor pricing strategy....Greeeeedy.

It's not the couple bucks... it's the principle. No thanks.

Your understanding of economics is apparently far beyond mine. Why would the number of buys increase tenfold for a difference of $2-3 in price?

Because that fits his narrative.

 

[rabidsheep]

I hope a lot of Calvin Johnson owners get booted this week.

My last second changes at QB mean I'm gone week 12 (Russel Wilson/Vick with the same bye) regardless, but I gotta say taking Calvin (7.7) isn't looking real great right now. Since the rest of the offense had so much success I'm really hoping defenses can't focus Calvin as much moving forward and he bounces back.

On the other hand taking Boldin (39.8) gives me a warm fuzzy and I'm really really glad I drank the kool-aid on Cameron (30.3) and Thomas (30.5) at TE.

Bush (29.1) and Peterson (33.1) make my RB slot look great with McCoy still to play but that score from Calvin is a great reminder why going with a shallow roster (19 in my case) can be a real risk. When Calvin can score that low it's really easy to see a rough week for studs booting me before I even hit my QB apocalypse.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Fascinating. Only 28 teams have both Foster and Tate. Tate seemed like cheap insurance to me.

Handcuffing is a losing proposition in this contest IMO.

Depends on the cost of the handcuff imo

e.g. RGIII and Cousins for a combined $23 seems like a good deal. Vick/Foles for $16 was probably also a decent bet if you believe in the Eagles offense.

And, I also think for it to work it has to be a true handcuff, not simply a RBBC situation, where both players have limited value when both are healthy. I think it needs to be an all-or-nothing proposition.

Why do you want to commit to having dead money on your roster?

I always have some "dead" money on my roster - guys who end up not scoring for my team. This year, I did grab RGIII, and for an extra $3 bought insurance for when he gets hurt. So I looked at more like buying the Redskins QB for $23 - which I thought was fair value. I liked that combo more than the less expensive Vick/Foles. With the flexible roster size, it seems smart to hedge certain bets.

Is Cousins going to win this for you if RG3 goes down?

Maybe - if he plays well enough to cover P. Manning's bye week. I also think he has more upside with the Redskins than I thought Foles had with the Eagles. I think, in general, the "pistol" QBs will outscore the "traditional" QBs, but I also think there is a good chance that QBs like RGIII, Vick, Kaepernick will be injured and not finish the season. So - while I like their upside - not playing is a big downside.

Wait, you're buying the backup of your backup? Uh, okay. To each their own I guess. I think that money would be used much better elsewhere.

 

[VA703]

if they keep playing trent like this im doomed

 

[Sinn Fein]

Wait, you're buying the backup of your backup? Uh, okay. To each their own I guess. I think that money would be used much better elsewhere.

Well, I don't really look at RGIII as my back-up - this week, sure. But I expected to use RGIII as often, or more, than Manning -so long as RGIII was healthy. I still look at them as 1a and 1b in a best ball format. I've just hedged on 1b a little.

 

[VA703]

how do you change your team name from the numbers?

 

[FUBAR]

Tons of bargains that have already been mentioned, but after one week I'm really liking the $6 I spent on Andre Roberts. Plenty of yards for all three AZ receivers this year

Agreed. I really regret removing him, but Edelman, Burleson, and Gibson are holding down the [bargain WR] fort for now.

Thompkins got 14 targets. For my leagues I hope that never happens again, but he'll eventually be productive for me here.

+1 on Roberts. Loving J Bell as my #3 RB (and Bush as my #1) but Roberts is one of the WRs I'll regret not keeping.

 

[FUBAR]

Fascinating. Only 28 teams have both Foster and Tate. Tate seemed like cheap insurance to me.

Handcuffing is a losing proposition in this contest IMO.

Depends on the cost of the handcuff imo

e.g. RGIII and Cousins for a combined $23 seems like a good deal. Vick/Foles for $16 was probably also a decent bet if you believe in the Eagles offense.

And, I also think for it to work it has to be a true handcuff, not simply a RBBC situation, where both players have limited value when both are healthy. I think it needs to be an all-or-nothing proposition.

Why do you want to commit to having dead money on your roster?

I always have some "dead" money on my roster - guys who end up not scoring for my team. This year, I did grab RGIII, and for an extra $3 bought insurance for when he gets hurt. So I looked at more like buying the Redskins QB for $23 - which I thought was fair value. I liked that combo more than the less expensive Vick/Foles. With the flexible roster size, it seems smart to hedge certain bets.

Is Cousins going to win this for you if RG3 goes down?

Maybe - if he plays well enough to cover P. Manning's bye week. I also think he has more upside with the Redskins than I thought Foles had with the Eagles. I think, in general, the "pistol" QBs will outscore the "traditional" QBs, but I also think there is a good chance that QBs like RGIII, Vick, Kaepernick will be injured and not finish the season. So - while I like their upside - not playing is a big downside.

Wait, you're buying the backup of your backup? Uh, okay. To each their own I guess. I think that money would be used much better elsewhere.

it's $3. I don't mind the "backup to your backup" thing, but that much $ on QB seems excessive.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Wait, you're buying the backup of your backup? Uh, okay. To each their own I guess. I think that money would be used much better elsewhere.

Well, I don't really look at RGIII as my back-up - this week, sure. But I expected to use RGIII as often, or more, than Manning -so long as RGIII was healthy. I still look at them as 1a and 1b in a best ball format. I've just hedged on 1b a little.

Either or. Doesn't matter. The point is, that $3 could be have been used for Thomas, Thompkins, a K, a D, etc. instead of a QB3 who will most likely never score (or may not even play a snap this season)... and if he does score, something has gone horribly wrong with your QB1 and QB2 that you're probably not winning the contest anyway. It is flushing money down the drain instead of trying to get value out it.

 

[BaBastage]

A couple of years ago someone posted a team number for using My Fantasy league software. Does anyone have a league ID/number we can use this year?

Their software is the best way to keep up with all scoring for individuals and teams.

OC set up his live scoring app again this year: http://ffltools.com/fbg35k/, is that what you're referring to?

$5?!

You've got to be kidding me.

Get 500-1000 people to buy at $2-3

Get 100 people to buy at $5

Poor pricing strategy....Greeeeedy. No thanks.

Three things:

1. I'm sure OC knows how many people contributed last year and what they contributed and factored it in.

2. I highly doubt that 5-10x as many people would buy at $2 vs. $5.

3. PayPal takes 2.9% + 0.30 per transaction. That 0.30 kills you at this pricing level. So 100 @ $5 is the same as 175 @ $3 and 275 @ $2. And all of that is about $455. Given the number of hours to program, run the weekly data and verify it, that's probably $10/hour or less - before any hosting costs. Basically minimum wage, and a pittance compared to the enjoyment folks get from knowing where they stand, liv

As a former software engineer and someone who understand both cost-based and value based pricing, I agree.

OC is not making much $$ on this offering given the number of hours to set up and maintain... and if he is, why should anyone care? If one thinks they can compete with a better, cheaper option, no one's stopping them.

 

[Modog814]

A couple of years ago someone posted a team number for using My Fantasy league software. Does anyone have a league ID/number we can use this year?

Their software is the best way to keep up with all scoring for individuals and teams.

OC set up his live scoring app again this year: http://ffltools.com/fbg35k/, is that what you're referring to?

$5?!

You've got to be kidding me.

Get 500-1000 people to buy at $2-3

Get 100 people to buy at $5

Poor pricing strategy....Greeeeedy. No thanks.

Three things:

1. I'm sure OC knows how many people contributed last year and what they contributed and factored it in.

2. I highly doubt that 5-10x as many people would buy at $2 vs. $5.

3. PayPal takes 2.9% + 0.30 per transaction. That 0.30 kills you at this pricing level. So 100 @ $5 is the same as 175 @ $3 and 275 @ $2. And all of that is about $455. Given the number of hours to program, run the weekly data and verify it, that's probably $10/hour or less - before any hosting costs. Basically minimum wage, and a pittance compared to the enjoyment folks get from knowing where they stand, liv

As a former software engineer and someone who understand both cost-based and value based pricing, I agree.

OC is not making much $$ on this offering given the number of hours to set up and maintain... and if he is, why should anyone care? If one thinks they can compete with a better, cheaper option, no one's stopping them.

Totally agree. I for one have never used his site or services and don't intend to, but if the live scoring was something that you wanted I think $5 for the season for the work involved is more than fair. About half the entries will be eliminated by week 6 so you're talking $0.83 a week for the service on average. If that's too rich for your blood, you can wait until Tuesday morning.

I'm sure if more people had donated to a service they were taking advantage of, he wouldn't have had to even charge.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Wait, you're buying the backup of your backup? Uh, okay. To each their own I guess. I think that money would be used much better elsewhere.

Well, I don't really look at RGIII as my back-up - this week, sure. But I expected to use RGIII as often, or more, than Manning -so long as RGIII was healthy. I still look at them as 1a and 1b in a best ball format. I've just hedged on 1b a little.

Either or. Doesn't matter. The point is, that $3 could be have been used for Thomas, Thompkins, a K, a D, etc. instead of a QB3 who will most likely never score (or may not even play a snap this season)... and if he does score, something has gone horribly wrong with your QB1 and QB2 that you're probably not winning the contest anyway. It is flushing money down the drain instead of trying to get value out it.

I have Thomas, Thompkins, 3 Ks and 3 Ds. I did not see any other $3 players I thought had enough upside to score in this format.

If RGIII gets hurt before week 9 - not an unlikely scenario - I have a QB who can play during the bye week instead of a Zero. I'd love for it to be dead money, and RGIII performs as a top-5 QB every week. But, I think that Cousins has enough upside as the starter that he could put up decent numbers in this format - conversely, I did not think Foles would put up big numbers for the Eagles when he has to start for the Eagles.

I certainly could have looked to upgrade other players by $3 - but I just looked at like spending $23 for RGIII/Redskins QB instead of getting two QBs. ANd, I liked that value for the season. When I lose, it won't be because I have Cousins...

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Clearly there is no global value optimization for 2 disparate goals. As such you need QB B on your roster and you need luck or prescient handicapping to win it all. P^2/C is the best approximation of a global value metric and you have to manage the standard deviations. Still a crapshoot however u measure though...

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Wait, you're buying the backup of your backup? Uh, okay. To each their own I guess. I think that money would be used much better elsewhere.

Well, I don't really look at RGIII as my back-up - this week, sure. But I expected to use RGIII as often, or more, than Manning -so long as RGIII was healthy. I still look at them as 1a and 1b in a best ball format. I've just hedged on 1b a little.

Either or. Doesn't matter. The point is, that $3 could be have been used for Thomas, Thompkins, a K, a D, etc. instead of a QB3 who will most likely never score (or may not even play a snap this season)... and if he does score, something has gone horribly wrong with your QB1 and QB2 that you're probably not winning the contest anyway. It is flushing money down the drain instead of trying to get value out it.

I have Thomas, Thompkins, 3 Ks and 3 Ds. I did not see any other $3 players I thought had enough upside to score in this format.

If RGIII gets hurt before week 9 - not an unlikely scenario - I have a QB who can play during the bye week instead of a Zero. I'd love for it to be dead money, and RGIII performs as a top-5 QB every week. But, I think that Cousins has enough upside as the starter that he could put up decent numbers in this format - conversely, I did not think Foles would put up big numbers for the Eagles when he has to start for the Eagles.

I certainly could have looked to upgrade other players by $3 - but I just looked at like spending $23 for RGIII/Redskins QB instead of getting two QBs. ANd, I liked that value for the season. When I lose, it won't be because I have Cousins...

I'm not talking about your team or those players specifically; they were just examples. The point is that you're wasting money on an irrelevant player while that money could be used much better elsewhere.

When you lose, it will be because you didn't get enough value out of your money. If you lose one of your stud players in this contest, you're done regardless if you have his backup or not. Getting backups may help you advance a little further but they're not winning you anything.

 

[meyerj31]

My TE core of Davis/Cook/J. Thomas looking good so far

I'm glad this week didn't count, though, because I have TRich/MJD/Spiller, who combined for a pathetic 20 points.

 

[apalmer]

how do you change your team name from the numbers?

Go to the MyFBG page and scroll down--there's a link to name your contest team.

 

[rabidsheep]

Wait, you're buying the backup of your backup? Uh, okay. To each their own I guess. I think that money would be used much better elsewhere.

Well, I don't really look at RGIII as my back-up - this week, sure. But I expected to use RGIII as often, or more, than Manning -so long as RGIII was healthy. I still look at them as 1a and 1b in a best ball format. I've just hedged on 1b a little.

Either or. Doesn't matter. The point is, that $3 could be have been used for Thomas, Thompkins, a K, a D, etc. instead of a QB3 who will most likely never score (or may not even play a snap this season)... and if he does score, something has gone horribly wrong with your QB1 and QB2 that you're probably not winning the contest anyway. It is flushing money down the drain instead of trying to get value out it.

Taking backups or handcuffs aren't my style in this format, but I don't think it's as ridiculous as some people are making it out to be. At least one member of the Footballguys staff (Jeff Haseley) took that tack spending $7 on Foles to handcuff his Vick selection......

Again, I don't agree with the strat but I think it's wrong to dismiss it out of hand.

 

[DWI]

Tony Romo $15 0.00 bye Michael Vick $9 0.00 bye ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Trent Richardson $27 0.00 bye Matt Forte $26 0.00 bye David Wilson $21 0.00 bye Eddie Lacy $16 0.00 bye Roy Helu $6 0.00 bye Christine Michael $5 0.00 bye Knile Davis $4 0.00 bye Bilal Powell $3 0.00 bye Felix Jones $2 0.00 bye ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Demaryius Thomas $24 0.00 bye Danny Amendola $19 0.00 bye Andre Roberts $6 0.00 bye Donnie Avery $4 0.00 bye Nate Washington $4 0.00 bye Jason Avant $2 0.00 bye Brandon Gibson $2 0.00 bye Kenbrell Thompkins $2 0.00 bye ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Jermichael Finley $18 0.00 bye Jordan Cameron $12 0.00 bye Anthony Fasano $2 0.00 bye Julius Thomas $2 0.00 bye ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Alex Henery $3 0.00 bye Ryan Succop $3 0.00 bye Kai Forbath $3 0.00 bye ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Arizona Cardinals $4 0.00 bye Indianapolis Colts $3 0.00 bye Carolina Panthers $3 0.00 bye ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------TOTAL 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 CUTOFF 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 I put up 200.75 points so far Wish I wouldn't of switched Bush for Wilson. Love my tightends.

 

[apalmer]

A couple of years ago someone posted a team number for using My Fantasy league software. Does anyone have a league ID/number we can use this year?

Their software is the best way to keep up with all scoring for individuals and teams.

OC set up his live scoring app again this year: http://ffltools.com/fbg35k/, is that what you're referring to?

$5?!

You've got to be kidding me.

Get 500-1000 people to buy at $2-3

Get 100 people to buy at $5

Poor pricing strategy....Greeeeedy. No thanks.

Three things:

1. I'm sure OC knows how many people contributed last year and what they contributed and factored it in.

2. I highly doubt that 5-10x as many people would buy at $2 vs. $5.

3. PayPal takes 2.9% + 0.30 per transaction. That 0.30 kills you at this pricing level. So 100 @ $5 is the same as 175 @ $3 and 275 @ $2. And all of that is about $455. Given the number of hours to program, run the weekly data and verify it, that's probably $10/hour or less - before any hosting costs. Basically minimum wage, and a pittance compared to the enjoyment folks get from knowing where they stand, liv

As a former software engineer and someone who understand both cost-based and value based pricing, I agree.

OC is not making much $$ on this offering given the number of hours to set up and maintain... and if he is, why should anyone care? If one thinks they can compete with a better, cheaper option, no one's stopping them.

Totally agree. I for one have never used his site or services and don't intend to, but if the live scoring was something that you wanted I think $5 for the season for the work involved is more than fair. About half the entries will be eliminated by week 6 so you're talking $0.83 a week for the service on average. If that's too rich for your blood, you can wait until Tuesday morning.

I'm sure if more people had donated to a service they were taking advantage of, he wouldn't have had to even charge.

My vote is still for FBG to pay him an acceptable amount to provide live scoring services to the site.

 

[gandalas]

174.6 with Dez, DeSean Jackson, Vincent Brown, Mike Vick, Ryan Matthews, and Antonio Gates still to go.

Wish this week counted...

 

[jdoggydogg]

I thought I was smart spending $21 on Ridley instead of Wilson

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

I thought I was smart spending $21 on Ridley instead of Wilson

I thought I was smart spending $21 on Wilson instead of $23 on Reggie Bush.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Wait, you're buying the backup of your backup? Uh, okay. To each their own I guess. I think that money would be used much better elsewhere.

Well, I don't really look at RGIII as my back-up - this week, sure. But I expected to use RGIII as often, or more, than Manning -so long as RGIII was healthy. I still look at them as 1a and 1b in a best ball format. I've just hedged on 1b a little.

Either or. Doesn't matter. The point is, that $3 could be have been used for Thomas, Thompkins, a K, a D, etc. instead of a QB3 who will most likely never score (or may not even play a snap this season)... and if he does score, something has gone horribly wrong with your QB1 and QB2 that you're probably not winning the contest anyway. It is flushing money down the drain instead of trying to get value out it.

Taking backups or handcuffs aren't my style in this format, but I don't think it's as ridiculous as some people are making it out to be. At least one member of the Footballguys staff (Jeff Haseley) took that tack spending $7 on Foles to handcuff his Vick selection......

Again, I don't agree with the strat but I think it's wrong to dismiss it out of hand.

The Vick / Foles situation really surprised me. You're essentially paying $16 for an extremely risky player in Vick. Bumping him from $9 to $16 removes any of his perceived value IMO. If you're relying on Foles to carry you through after Vick goes down, you're probably going to be making an early exit. I guess if you think Foles would be a top 10 guy it would make sense but I don't think any is making that claim.

As with any strategy, I'm going to dismiss it until I hear a valid argument for it.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Tony Romo $15 0.00 Michael Vick $9 0.00 ----------------------------------------Trent Richardson $27 0.00 Matt Forte $26 0.00 David Wilson $21 0.00 Eddie Lacy $16 0.00 Roy Helu $6 0.00 Christine Michael $5 0.00 Knile Davis $4 0.00 Bilal Powell $3 0.00 Felix Jones $2 0.00 ----------------------------------------Demaryius Thomas $24 0.00 Danny Amendola $19 0.00 Andre Roberts $6 0.00 Donnie Avery $4 0.00 Nate Washington $4 0.00 Jason Avant $2 0.00 Brandon Gibson $2 0.00 Kenbrell Thompkins $2 0.00 ----------------------------------------Jermichael Finley $18 0.00 Jordan Cameron $12 0.00 Anthony Fasano $2 0.00 Julius Thomas $2 0.00 ----------------------------------------Alex Henery $3 0.00 Ryan Succop $3 0.00 Kai Forbath $3 0.00 ----------------------------------------Arizona Cardinals $4 0.00 Indianapolis Colts $3 0.00 Carolina Panthers $3 0.00 ----------------------------------------TOTAL 0.00 CUTOFF 0.00 I put up 200.75 points so far Wish I wouldn't of switched Bush for Wilson. Love my tightends.

I have 13 of the same players as you ($146 salary) - that's the most so far I've seen.

Therefore I wish you good luck

-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

I thought I was smart spending $21 on Ridley instead of Wilson

I thought I was smart spending $21 on Wilson instead of $23 on Reggie Bush.

I thought I was smart spending $21 on Wilson instead of going with 7 more $3 kickers and defenses.

-QG

 

[EHRMAHGERD]

I hope a lot of Calvin Johnson owners get booted this week.

I am a Megatron owner and wont be getting booted. 143pts with Shady McCoy and Andre Johnson left.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

174.6 with Dez, DeSean Jackson, Vincent Brown, Mike Vick, Ryan Matthews, and Antonio Gates still to go.

Wish this week counted...

Presumably you'll end up with more than 174.6 after tonight's games, but just for some perspective, that score puts you around 7,500th place going into tonight. It was a high-scoring week. This guy has over 300 points.

 

[FUBAR]

I thought I was smart spending $21 on Ridley instead of Wilson

I thought I was smart spending $21 on Wilson instead of $23 on Reggie Bush.

I thought I was smart spending $21 on Wilson instead of going with 7 more $3 kickers and defenses.

-QG

35.1% of the entries had him, the highest for any RB.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

I hope a lot of Calvin Johnson owners get booted this week.

I am a Megatron owner and wont be getting booted. 143pts with Shady McCoy and Andre Johnson left.

Please tell me this is you.

 

[pats3in4]

God I suck at this.

 

[EHRMAHGERD]

I hope a lot of Calvin Johnson owners get booted this week.

I am a Megatron owner and wont be getting booted. 143pts with Shady McCoy and Andre Johnson left.

Please tell me this is you.

Lol that is not me I an Ehrmahgerd

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

I hope a lot of Calvin Johnson owners get booted this week.

I am a Megatron owner and wont be getting booted. 143pts with Shady McCoy and Andre Johnson left.

Please tell me this is you.

Lol that is not me I an Ehrmahgerd

You have 227 points.

 

[elshagon]

Colin Kaepernick $18
Alex Smith $10
Michael Vick $9
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LeSean McCoy $27
Darren Sproles $25
Reggie Bush $23
Eddie Lacy $16
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Demaryius Thomas $24
Danny Amendola $19
T.Y. Hilton $14
Golden Tate $10
Kenbrell Thompkins $2

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vernon Davis $19
Jordan Cameron $12
Julius Thomas $2
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Randy Bullock $4
Kai Forbath $3
Josh Brown $3
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Arizona Cardinals $4
Detroit Lions $3
Washington Redskins $3

244 points so far this week looking good

 

[Organized Chaos]

A couple of years ago someone posted a team number for using My Fantasy league software. Does anyone have a league ID/number we can use this year?

Their software is the best way to keep up with all scoring for individuals and teams.

OC set up his live scoring app again this year: http://ffltools.com/fbg35k/, is that what you're referring to?

$5?!

You've got to be kidding me.

Get 500-1000 people to buy at $2-3

Get 100 people to buy at $5

Poor pricing strategy....Greeeeedy. No thanks.

Three things:

1. I'm sure OC knows how many people contributed last year and what they contributed and factored it in.

2. I highly doubt that 5-10x as many people would buy at $2 vs. $5.

3. PayPal takes 2.9% + 0.30 per transaction. That 0.30 kills you at this pricing level. So 100 @ $5 is the same as 175 @ $3 and 275 @ $2. And all of that is about $455. Given the number of hours to program, run the weekly data and verify it, that's probably $10/hour or less - before any hosting costs. Basically minimum wage, and a pittance compared to the enjoyment folks get from knowing where they stand, liv

As a former software engineer and someone who understand both cost-based and value based pricing, I agree.

OC is not making much $$ on this offering given the number of hours to set up and maintain... and if he is, why should anyone care? If one thinks they can compete with a better, cheaper option, no one's stopping them.

Totally agree. I for one have never used his site or services and don't intend to, but if the live scoring was something that you wanted I think $5 for the season for the work involved is more than fair. About half the entries will be eliminated by week 6 so you're talking $0.83 a week for the service on average. If that's too rich for your blood, you can wait until Tuesday morning.

I'm sure if more people had donated to a service they were taking advantage of, he wouldn't have had to even charge.

My vote is still for FBG to pay him an acceptable amount to provide live scoring services to the site.

Thanks everyone for the feedback and support. I didn't want to bring the "why" about this into the forums and clog up this thread about pricing, but I feel I should respond to this thread.

Much of the above info is correct. Over the past 5 or 6 years, a lot of people have used my application and there is a lot of work that needs to go into improving the accuracy, loading all the new teams/players, converting the FBG info into usable format in my DB, supporting the stats week to week etc.... The time it takes to get this ready and support throughout the year far outweighs the donations I've received.

In the past, I have asked for donations because it was something I was doing for myself that I decided to share with others. It still required a lot of work, but I had much more time then. Now with kids and a lot less time, I need to put a value on my time spent supporting applications like this. For me, it was either put a per-team fee on this or don't bring the application back this year at all. The way I look at it, this is a "want" type application, not a "need". I feel the $5 is a fair price and it allows me to work on this for more than a couple dollars an hour and still provide a quality service to people that enjoy the live updates for their teams.

I knew this decision wasn't going to be the most popular with everyone, but at the end of the day if someone else built an application that allowed me to see my teams score live, I'd pay $5 for it.

 

[Organized Chaos]

Back to the thread....

Scored 91.5 points between Cook/Winslow Jr and J. Thomas....

Using up my scoring way to early!

 

[EHRMAHGERD]

I hope a lot of Calvin Johnson owners get booted this week.

I am a Megatron owner and wont be getting booted. 143pts with Shady McCoy and Andre Johnson left.

Please tell me this is you.

Lol that is not me I an Ehrmahgerd

You have 227 points.

oh wow... I was going off standard scoring, because I didnt know where the scores were posted. Thanks Ignoratio.

 

[JustinHawkins]

Link to see updated scores? Never mind found it!

 

[(HULK)]

If RG3 doesn't shake this rust off by week 3, I'm not gonna last long this year.

 

[eefflrat]

Liking things so far. 181.1 and I still have Shady (-4.1), D-Jax (-8.2) and my defenses (-0) still to go. I have Vick too, but I doubt he outscores Luck.

how do I find the scores so far?

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Liking things so far. 181.1 and I still have Shady (-4.1), D-Jax (-8.2) and my defenses (-0) still to go. I have Vick too, but I doubt he outscores Luck.

how do I find the scores so far?

http://ffltools.com/fbg35k/

 

[LittlePhatty]

Liking things so far. 181.1 and I still have Shady (-4.1), D-Jax (-8.2) and my defenses (-0) still to go. I have Vick too, but I doubt he outscores Luck.

how do I find the scores so far?

http://ffltools.com/fbg35k/

 

[QuizGuy66]

I hope a lot of Calvin Johnson owners get booted this week.

I am a Megatron owner and wont be getting booted. 143pts with Shady McCoy and Andre Johnson left.

Please tell me this is you.

Lol that is not me I an Ehrmahgerd

You have 227 points.

And still 23-kicker guy is a legend lost in the mists of FBG.

Long Live 23-kicker guy!!!!

-QG

 

[ctriopelle]

oof...255.7+ and no cut in sight for another couple of weeks. Love the potential this is showing but hate blowing my wad like this so early. Interesting what the double flex does this year, as well as the change to the QB points.

And to OC, thanks for the great work on the live scoring. I'll second his comments about all the hard work vs. other commitments, I did it on my own way back in the day and he and I worked on the live app together in the past. It's thankless, and the numbers need to be spot on or you can really upset/disappoint folks. Hats off if he can make a few bucks, but really it won't even work out to minimum wage in the end with the limited number of folks who would actually pay.

Bring it boys (and girls)

 

[gagull]

I'm sure buried somewhere in this thread is a link to a query function. I'd like to check players on my entry to see how commonly they were selected. Would someone please provide a link to this?

 

[Organized Chaos]

I'm sure buried somewhere in this thread is a link to a query function. I'd like to check players on my entry to see how commonly they were selected. Would someone please provide a link to this?

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/contest_querier_form.php

The link is now added to the results pages. http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contest/2013/week-1.php

 

[QuizGuy66]

Done at 226.35

On to week 2

Not loving my RBs so much :/

Scorers: Vick, Lacy, Powell, D Thomas, A Johnson, Cook, J Thomas, Winslow, Hauschka, Washington

Feel good about QB, TE, and WR - worst of my 10 WR's was Givens at 4.7. Half the battle is finding WRs that actually are getting targets.

-QG