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Sunday Ticket '23: YouTube TV signs deal. Stand alone option available (1 Viewer)

Live in South Florida
Phins are Number 1, root for the Bucs 2nd
I get all the Phins games
I get almost all of the Bucs mostly because of Brady IMHO
I get NFLRz

What do I need the Sunday Ticket for?
What am I missing out on?
TNF, 3 local games on Sunday, SNF, MNF, 1/3 are on National TV

I think Youtube is fantastic and watch a lot of it, more than cable quite frankly
I don't know that Sunday Ticket is something I would want on there but I do like their platform, wish they would bring back thumbs down votes
 
skol asylum said:
A bit shocked Bezos isn't going all in for NFL Prime.
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I wonder how many subscribers they would actually gain, echo don't already have Prime.

We are in the beginning of the streaming wars. They will not all survive. Sunday Ticket might mean more to YouTube than Amazon.

Just thinking out loud, I have no idea really.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
Live in South Florida
Phins are Number 1, root for the Bucs 2nd
I get all the Phins games
I get almost all of the Bucs mostly because of Brady IMHO
I get NFLRz

What do I need the Sunday Ticket for?
What am I missing out on?
TNF, 3 local games on Sunday, SNF, MNF, 1/3 are on National TV

I think Youtube is fantastic and watch a lot of it, more than cable quite frankly
I don't know that Sunday Ticket is something I would want on there but I do like their platform, wish they would bring back thumbs down votes
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This. I am 100% fine with watching the Bengals game, all primetime games, and RedZone during multi-game non-Bengals time slots. I would never have time to watch much more than that.
 
eighsse2 said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Live in South Florida
Phins are Number 1, root for the Bucs 2nd
I get all the Phins games
I get almost all of the Bucs mostly because of Brady IMHO
I get NFLRz

What do I need the Sunday Ticket for?
What am I missing out on?
TNF, 3 local games on Sunday, SNF, MNF, 1/3 are on National TV

I think Youtube is fantastic and watch a lot of it, more than cable quite frankly
I don't know that Sunday Ticket is something I would want on there but I do like their platform, wish they would bring back thumbs down votes
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This. I am 100% fine with watching the Bengals game, all primetime games, and RedZone during multi-game non-Bengals time slots. I would never have time to watch much more than that.
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Same here. Raiders when they’re on (I’m a glutton for punishment), the prime time games, and then Redzone for my ADD/Fantasy Football nerd brain.

ps. But as I understand it, YouTube TV does offer an NFL Redzone upgrade for a few more bucks a month, which is where I’d put my streaming dollars if/when I decide to finally cut the cord.
 
rockaction said:
NFL Game Mix has eight games on one screen. I live by it.

It's the Red Zone for guys with twenty eyes.

I hope DirecTV somehow manages to win the bid. I have no problem with their product as is.
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This is how I watch the early and late afternoon Sunday games and feel same as you about the rest of it.

8 games on at once with a fantasy implication in every game truly feels like I'm being shot up with crack. I honestly rarely ever even eat or sit down in the early afternoon games. Just pace in front of the TV, drink, smoke and would not want to be anywhere else.
 
Will be interesting to see what the price point ends up at if on YouTube. And if it’s an add-on or part of the basic YT package.

Also curious to see if DTV offers a redzone channel and how they package/price it if so.

Hopefully there are new options like single team packages, and weekly packages, and second half of season packages.
 
houston said:
Will be interesting to see what the price point ends up at if on YouTube. And if it’s an add-on or part of the basic YT package.

Also curious to see if DTV offers a redzone channel and how they package/price it if so.

Hopefully there are new options like single team packages, and weekly packages, and second half of season packages.
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Interesting, so DTV doesn’t have red zone now?

YouTube TV is my primary streaming service. I don’t plan on getting Sunday Ticket but I don’t want to lose red zone.
 
DTV has a redzone channel but it’s produced as part of Sunday ticket and is not offered separately from the Sunday ticket package.
 
I'm fine with just local + Redzone, can't think of any out of market games where I want to watch their commercials.
 
TLEF316 said:
houston said:
DTV has a redzone channel but it’s produced as part of Sunday ticket and is not offered separately from the Sunday ticket package.
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Yeah, and siciliano<<<<<Scott hanson
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Agree entirely. The NFL Redzone channel is just non-stop action, Scott Hanson brings energy AND directness (no lollygagging). They go from game to game without a hitch (and go to the audio of the announcers from each game instead of commentating it himself, which puts you quickly into the game vibe with the commentators who have been living the game that day). All the other redzone’s or game day shows are slow, annoying and cut rate by comparison.
I was in a restaurant this past weekend after my son’s NorCal state cup championship game (youth Under 13, they won It all!) and they had another version of a game day highlights kind of show with 2 guys talking over the games they’d drop in on (but not play the audio of the real commentators) and they were talking over some generic hard rock soundtrack. It was freakin awful.
 
i was really hoping it went to Amazon.

I will not be purchasing if on YouTube

I'll just stick with my cable and redzone
 
rockaction said:
NFL Game Mix has eight games on one screen. I live by it.

It's the Red Zone for guys with twenty eyes.

I hope DirecTV somehow manages to win the bid. I have no problem with their product as is.
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I've had DTV for the past 23 years specifically for the purpose of getting Sunday Ticket. It's been great. No complaints.

But for the past few years, I just don't watch live television anymore, except for sports of course. The whole concept of having a show pause to play several minutes of commercials has become both weird and intolerable. If they just kicked a PAT and went to commercial, that's one thing -- I need a moment to hit the restroom. But seeing 22-minute sitcoms bloated to 30-minute run times thanks to commercials is just something I can't put up with. Also, the whole idea of having to plan ahead to watch a particular show at a particular time on a particular day, or having to go in and manually set your DVR to record a show as opposed to just streaming it whenever you want, feels like something out of a different era. So the result is that I never watch DTV except for football, which makes Sunday Ticket a preposterously bad value.

I'm hoping that a streaming service can do something cool with football, like the way Amazon gives us additional viewing options during TNF. I'll be disappointed if Game Mix goes away, because I like watching that sometimes too. But mainly I'd like for the Ticket to be on a platform that I'll watch for non-football stuff. DTV doesn't qualify now.
 
massraider said:
rockaction said:
NFL Game Mix has eight games on one screen. I live by it.
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Does this mean most of your Sunday (early games obviously) you watch the Game Mix?

If true: dang
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This is my primary channel for the early games (love it). They also have a 4 game mix channel (so larger viewing area) but alas usually is missing one of the games I want to watch. If the game mix is not available with the new option it would be a huge step down for me. I have no idea what the basic price is for YouTube TV but I am assuming this will be an additional subscription to it. I don't want to get rid of DIRECTV so if this requires YouTube TV + extra subscription this will probably be my last year with NFL Sunday Ticket.
 
IvanKaramazov said:
But mainly I'd like for the Ticket to be on a platform that I'll watch for non-football stuff. DTV doesn't qualify now.
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DTV is a preposterously bad value. Their billing is something to behold. I'm in a household that may have to take out a complaint with the BBB to get the proper billing for the proper things we've ordered. They're charging us for HBO Max when we haven't ordered it. It's been going on for eleven months now, and the byzantine and labyrinthian way in which their billing is conducted has caused us great consternation. I would not recommend DTV as a product.

Except...

for Sunday TIcket. It has all the games and functions well. The movement of certain games to certain subscription-only devices leads me to believe that we're going to see the model, and that worse, the model will include a la carte games, individual games that you're going to have to drop six or so (or more!) dollars to see. And that will be just for the game. My big fear is that having all the games on one service will go the way of the buffalo (see what I did there?), and that the services will charge per game (can't you see it coming?). Now, that's fine if you, say...watch the Bills religiously and really only the Bills. It won't affect you. But if you watch with an eye towards fantasy football and want to see as much or as many of the games as possible, a la carte pricing will totally kill that.

Basically, I'm worried about them taking away my Game Mix. That's how you keep abreast and can see all the relevant and important stuff. People will tell you eight games is too many. I assure you that with all the stops and starts in football, you don't miss a ton, especially with replays.

I watch football for fantasy purposes. The access to all the games at a reasonable price is a darn fine model for me. It's really the only TV I watch (seriously, sports are the only television I watch because I find the rest of television to be such claptrap as to not be worthy of me viewing it -- you won't catch me in the Netflix streaming section of the FFA) and I'd like it to remain as affordable as possible to the viewer. I don't see them doing that with the next few contracts.

Hence, my disappointment at them leaving DirecTV.
 
I've gotten Sunday Ticket for a free for a number of years now (not as long as some of you). Was hoping it would go somewhere I could continue to get for free or relatively cheap addon. If it goes to YouTube TV I will probably cancel DTV and move over to YouTube. We have all the streaming services and I'm really the only one that watches any live TV. I need live sports, basically just the NFL, and i go in spurts with live cable news (CNN - don't hate). My DTV sub is over $100+ a month which a big waste of money.
 
rockaction said:
IvanKaramazov said:
But mainly I'd like for the Ticket to be on a platform that I'll watch for non-football stuff. DTV doesn't qualify now.
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DTV is a preposterously bad value. Their billing is something to behold. I'm in a household that may have to take out a complaint with the BBB to get the proper billing for the proper things we've ordered. They're charging us for HBO Max when we haven't ordered it. It's been going on for eleven months now, and the byzantine and labyrinthian way in which their billing is conducted has caused us great consternation. I would not recommend DTV as a product.

Except...

for Sunday TIcket. It has all the games and functions well. The movement of certain games to certain subscription-only devices leads me to believe that we're going to see the model, and that worse, the model will include a la carte games, individual games that you're going to have to drop six or so (or more!) dollars to see. And that will be just for the game. My big fear is that having all the games on one service will go the way of the buffalo (see what I did there?), and that the services will charge per game (can't you see it coming?). Now, that's fine if you, say...watch the Bills religiously and really only the Bills. It won't affect you. But if you watch with an eye towards fantasy football and want to see as much or as many of the games as possible, a la carte pricing will totally kill that.

Basically, I'm worried about them taking away my Game Mix. That's how you keep abreast and can see all the relevant and important stuff. People will tell you eight games is too many. I assure you that with all the stops and starts in football, you don't miss a ton, especially with replays.

I watch football for fantasy purposes. The access to all the games at a reasonable price is a darn fine model for me. It's really the only TV I watch (seriously, sports are the only television I watch because I find the rest of television to be such claptrap as to not be worthy of me viewing it -- you won't catch me in the Netflix streaming section of the FFA) and I'd like it to remain as affordable as possible to the viewer. I don't see them doing that with the next few contracts.

Hence, my disappointment at them leaving DirecTV.
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Oh yeah. I do not want a la carte pricing. Football broadcasting is definitely a spot where bundling is good for me. Because of fantasy and the expansion of legal sport gambling, I guessing there are quite a lot of people like us, so I'm not terribly worried about it.
 
rockaction said:
NFL Game Mix has eight games on one screen. I live by it.

It's the Red Zone for guys with twenty eyes.

I hope DirecTV somehow manages to win the bid. I have no problem with their product as is.
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Feel the same. Have had DirecTv and the Sunday ticket for probably 20yrs. Love it. I‘m a bloody mary drinking channel flipping madman every Sunday watching all my FF players. It’s fantastic. I like the mix but wish you could choose the games in the mix. Not looking forward to YouTube and streaming at all.
 
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rockaction said:

Yeah, it does.

I'm curious -- why the "dang"?
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When I first set up man cave, I had three TVs. One Red Zone, two other games.

I realized two screens is the most I can handle. When I watch 8 screens, I feel like I know what happened in real time, but I didn't get to watch any football, absorb it.

If you can watch 8 screens, I assume you are Rain Man on meth. Very impressive.
 
Gottabesweet said:
houston said:
DTV has a redzone channel but it’s produced as part of Sunday ticket and is not offered separately from the Sunday ticket package.
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Which is weird because Verizon Fios you can buy just Redzone as standalone
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yep, you can buy the NFL Redzone on any other provider than DTV plus stream and you can't get the DTV Red Zone on any other service but DTV as part of Sunday Ticket. they are not the same, different hosts. I've had DTV Sunday Ticket for a few years and didn't know there was a difference until someone pointed it out to me a few weeks ago.

massraider said:
rockaction said:

Yeah, it does.

I'm curious -- why the "dang"?
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When I first set up man cave, I had three TVs. One Red Zone, two other games.

I realized two screens is the most I can handle. When I watch 8 screens, I feel like I know what happened in real time, but I didn't get to watch any football, absorb it.

If you can watch 8 screens, I assume you are Rain Man on meth. Very impressive.
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i watch this most Sundays, but you get only one sound stream so naturally i'm watching one game with 7 others on screens. never thought it was overwhelming, though before upgrading my TV to a larger screen it was useless. it's the closest thing to being at a sports bar without leaving the house during football season.

I wish there was a way to set the 4-screen channel to my selection of 4 games, which is easier on the eyes. maybe they'll offer that when they go all digital stream. I'd definitely pay for that option.

also i'd bet all the fbg'ers on the degenerate thread are okay with 8 games all the time.
 
Cowboysfan8 said:
massraider said:
Red Zone hurts Sunday Ticket sales.

You get a taste of that sweet sweet Red Zone heroin, it's tough to go back to cold turkey 🦃 of one game at a time.
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This
Is xfinity still going to offer redzone? That’s all that matters to me
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That’s how I get my redzone (xfinity) and I hope/assume any new deal won’t effect getting redzone thru cable. Heck, we’re paying extra either way (I think it’s $10 on both xfinity “sports package” and YouTube TV) so is think they won’t want to reduce the number of way for consumers to buy their channel. 🤞
 
Att directv suck.
Terrible service and always making people do the dance to get free or discounted ticket when we pay for their over priced packaging all year long.
Was very happy to leave them and hope directv eventually disappears as people finally realize streaming is the easier cheaper option.
If you still pay for that garbage, do some research and then save yourself some money and go to youtube tv
 
Anyone know when this deal will be finalized? I'd love to drop DirecTv as soon as the season is over. Sick of paying so much for something I use so little (aside from Sunday Ticket).
 
I know this won't happen, but it would be nice if there was an option that just gave you local channels and ST and dispensed with all the other stuff. I don't want CNN, ESPN, Discovery, or any other channel. Just football. I feel like I'm going to end up ditching DTV and replacing it with the exact same product only online instead of over-the-air.
 
IvanKaramazov said:
I know this won't happen, but it would be nice if there was an option that just gave you local channels and ST and dispensed with all the other stuff. I don't want CNN, ESPN, Discovery, or any other channel. Just football. I feel like I'm going to end up ditching DTV and replacing it with the exact same product only online instead of over-the-air.
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Yeah, truly ala carte TV would be absolutely incredible. But its never going to happen. Too many crappy channels that like 500 people watch that everyone else needs to subsidize. It just throws off the entire cost structure so much that nobody can come up with us a solution.

Unless someone benevolent billionaire is willing to take massive losses so that all his fellow man can just pay for the channels they actually want, we're doomed.
 
For a number of reasons I don't see us getting rid of DTV now but starting to look at the option of perhaps getting YouTubeTV + Sunday Ticket addon for the NFL season. Won't like the cost but it is what it is. For those familiar with YouTube TV I have a question. Their site mentions supporting up to 3 streams at once. Is that the limit it will support in a household? We have 4 TVs and at times I sit outside viewing the game on my iPad. We could make it work if its 3 max as an additional option to our main viewing platform but could never use it for our main source if its really a max of 3.
 
I already have YTTV and the RZ Channel. I hope they still offer the latter as a standalone because I haven’t sit through an actual game in years and probably never will again. I don’t want/need access to all of the games.
 
TLEF316 said:
IvanKaramazov said:
I know this won't happen, but it would be nice if there was an option that just gave you local channels and ST and dispensed with all the other stuff. I don't want CNN, ESPN, Discovery, or any other channel. Just football. I feel like I'm going to end up ditching DTV and replacing it with the exact same product only online instead of over-the-air.
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Yeah, truly ala carte TV would be absolutely incredible. But its never going to happen. Too many crappy channels that like 500 people watch that everyone else needs to subsidize. It just throws off the entire cost structure so much that nobody can come up with us a solution.

Unless someone benevolent billionaire is willing to take massive losses so that all his fellow man can just pay for the channels they actually want, we're doomed.
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The crazy thing is that Sunday Ticket is already quite expensive, and I'm perfectly happy to open my wallet for the whole bundle of NFL games. I don't want just my team's games -- I would love to write one check for every NFL game on a single platform. The NFL just refuses to take my money.
 
OrganizedChaos said:
For a number of reasons I don't see us getting rid of DTV now but starting to look at the option of perhaps getting YouTubeTV + Sunday Ticket addon for the NFL season. Won't like the cost but it is what it is. For those familiar with YouTube TV I have a question. Their site mentions supporting up to 3 streams at once. Is that the limit it will support in a household? We have 4 TVs and at times I sit outside viewing the game on my iPad. We could make it work if its 3 max as an additional option to our main viewing platform but could never use it for our main source if its really a max of 3.
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It looks like they have a "4k Plus" package for an additional $20 per month that allows unlimited streams.

I was kind of bummed when I read the limit of 3, as well.
 
joey said:
massraider said:
Red Zone hurts Sunday Ticket sales.

You get a taste of that sweet sweet Red Zone heroin, it's tough to go back to cold turkey 🦃 of one game at a time.
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Exactly. I make fun of my kids for being obsessed with TikTok but NFL Redzone is the football version of it.
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Best analogy I've heard is that it's the football equivalent of porn. Doesn't waste time on set-up and character development, just goes straight to the good stuff.

(I won't extend the analogy any further because I'm not looking to get banned.)
 
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