Super Bowl 49 discussion thread: Seahawks vs Patriots (Poll added) (2 Viewers)

[Anarchy99]

He was like Joe Montana? I guess if you're playing the "moxie" card, sure, but those numbers I just listed are seriously bad for a QB at home in the NFCCG. Joe Montana might have had one or two games in his whole career that were that ugly.

over a 3 year stretch in the prime of my career I was 0-3 in the playoffs, 46/88 52% for 503 total yds with 0 td and 4 picks

WHO AM I?

sry if I'm peeing on anybody's childhood icons

Are you Joe Montana, during the years he was recovering from a back injury so severe experts wondered if he'd ever have full mobility or play pro football again?Or are you just the same idiot who keeps trotting this sadly ignorant material out because you feel insecure and want desperately to believe 30 seconds on pro-football-reference can make up for being clueless about the game and its history?

Sry if I'm peeing on anyone's fragile ego.

Let's explore this further. The first year with a one and done Montana wasn't hurt and played in 15 games. SF lost their only playoff game to the Giants 17-3 going 26 for 47 with 296 passing yards, 0 TD, and an INT for a 65.6 passer rating.

The following season Montana got hurt early in the year but cam back to play the final 7 games of the regular season. SF again lost to NYG, this time 49-3 with Montana having to leave the game after going 8 for 15, 98 yards, 0 TD, and 2 INT for a 34.2 QB rating.

The third one and done game in a 36-24 loss to Minnesota after playing in 13 regular season games. 12 of 26 for 109 yards, 0 TD, and 1 pick and a 42.0 passer rating.

The point being that Montana was either healthy enough to play or he wasn't. He played and did not do well. IMO, you can't blame injuries for that.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

This is basically another home game for the Seahawks. Seahawks fans will outnumber Pats fans at least 3 to 1 and don't forget that the Seahawks play (and win) on this field every year against the Cardinals. 12th Man goin to da desert, baby!

come a long way since superbowl 40, where there was like 5 seahawk fans and the rest were steeler fans

 

[MG345]

This is basically another home game for the Seahawks. Seahawks fans will outnumber Pats fans at least 3 to 1 and don't forget that the Seahawks play (and win) on this field every year against the Cardinals. 12th Man goin to da desert, baby!

come a long way since superbowl 40, where there was like 5 seahawk fans and the rest were steeler fans

No, we were there. It is just all the neutral fans became Steelers fans the moment the NFL handed everybody a terrible towel as they walked in the door.

 

[Bad_Mo]

This is basically another home game for the Seahawks. Seahawks fans will outnumber Pats fans at least 3 to 1 and don't forget that the Seahawks play (and win) on this field every year against the Cardinals. 12th Man goin to da desert, baby!

League needs to look into the Seahawks stadium. Has to be out of some sort of boundaries for decibal rating. They are most likely pumping sound back through speakers like the Colts and Vikings did.

BTW - beating Arizona is nothing to beat ya chest about. Seahawks are a much different team away from the friendly, suspicious confines of their own stadium.

Where's Kravitz at?

 

[MG345]

This is basically another home game for the Seahawks. Seahawks fans will outnumber Pats fans at least 3 to 1 and don't forget that the Seahawks play (and win) on this field every year against the Cardinals. 12th Man goin to da desert, baby!

League needs to look into the Seahawks stadium. Has to be out of some sort of boundaries for decibal rating. They are most likely pumping sound back through speakers like the Colts and Vikings did.

BTW - beating Arizona is nothing to beat ya chest about. Seahawks are a much different team away from the friendly, suspicious confines of their own stadium.

Where's Kravitz at?

Actually, they have multiple times. Before and after the Giants had 11 false starts in one game there. Nothing to be found. They also used to check the Kingdome on a regular basis. Never found anything.

And AZ is a damn good team, with a great defense.

As for Hawks being a different team away from Seattle, so are the Patriots away from Seattle -- actually even more so. Patriots have a bigger point differential home vs road than the Hawks do. The Seahawks have actually been very good by league standards on the road under Pete Carroll, and even better with Russell Wilson.

 

[ShamrockPride]

Pathetic thing about all this is that Brady/Belichick are no better than someone like Barry Bonds. Would have been HoF'ers even without all the crap. But the greed to be the greatest got the better of them.

 

[devouredbychaos]

Pathetic thing about all this is that Brady/Belichick are no better than someone like Barry Bonds. Would have been HoF'ers even without all the crap. But the greed to be the greatest got the better of them.

Lol. Sooo salty, I luv it Where's the proof either cheated? Exactly.

 

[ShamrockPride]

Pathetic thing about all this is that Brady/Belichick are no better than someone like Barry Bonds. Would have been HoF'ers even without all the crap. But the greed to be the greatest got the better of them.

Lol. Sooo salty, I luv it Where's the proof either cheated? Exactly.

It got burned.

 

[devouredbychaos]

Pathetic thing about all this is that Brady/Belichick are no better than someone like Barry Bonds. Would have been HoF'ers even without all the crap. But the greed to be the greatest got the better of them.

Lol. Sooo salty, I luv it Where's the proof either cheated? Exactly.

It got burned.

Typical excuse.

 

[ShamrockPride]

Pathetic thing about all this is that Brady/Belichick are no better than someone like Barry Bonds. Would have been HoF'ers even without all the crap. But the greed to be the greatest got the better of them.

Lol. Sooo salty, I luv it Where's the proof either cheated? Exactly.

It got burned.

Typical excuse.

Okay. Sure. Typical...And what really happened. Sorry you want me to say flying monkeys stole them? Would that better entertain you?

 

[12punch]

Pathetic thing about all this is that Brady/Belichick are no better than someone like Barry Bonds. Would have been HoF'ers even without all the crap. But the greed to be the greatest got the better of them.

and we all know barry bonds is the steelers of baseball, so even more insulting

 

[proninja]

This is basically another home game for the Seahawks. Seahawks fans will outnumber Pats fans at least 3 to 1 and don't forget that the Seahawks play (and win) on this field every year against the Cardinals. 12th Man goin to da desert, baby!

come a long way since superbowl 40, where there was like 5 seahawk fans and the rest were steeler fans

No, we were there. It is just all the neutral fans became Steelers fans the moment the NFL handed everybody a terrible towel as they walked in the door.

We were there. Pittsburgh also had two false starts on the first drive if memory serves. There were definitely more pitt fans though, due to proximity and more time being good to accumulate a bandwagon.

 

[Jercules]

Pathetic thing about all this is that Brady/Belichick are no better than someone like Barry Bonds. Would have been HoF'ers even without all the crap. But the greed to be the greatest got the better of them.

Lol. Sooo salty, I luv it Where's the proof either cheated? Exactly.

It got burned.

Typical excuse.

Okay. Sure. Typical...And what really happened. Sorry you want me to say flying monkeys stole them? Would that better entertain you?

They had a guy with a camera on the sidelines, when he should have used a pen and paper. Seven years ago.

In the meantime, the Seahawks recently had 5 different defenders nailed for PEDs. They all claimed it was Adderall, but since only the player can reveal what the positive test was for--as per the CBA--we can safely suspect they were lying (but even if not... Adderall!)

So are you going to conjure up the same embellished outrage for them, or do they need to win a few more Super Bowls and whup your favorite team a couple more times first?

 

[Buffaloes]

This is basically another home game for the Seahawks. Seahawks fans will outnumber Pats fans at least 3 to 1 and don't forget that the Seahawks play (and win) on this field every year against the Cardinals. 12th Man goin to da desert, baby!

weren't you a Denver fan a month ago?

 

[biju]

Pathetic thing about all this is that Brady/Belichick are no better than someone like Barry Bonds. Would have been HoF'ers even without all the crap. But the greed to be the greatest got the better of them.

Lol. Sooo salty, I luv it Where's the proof either cheated? Exactly.

It got burned.

Typical excuse.

Okay. Sure. Typical...And what really happened. Sorry you want me to say flying monkeys stole them? Would that better entertain you?

They had a guy with a camera on the sidelines, when he should have used a pen and paper. Seven years ago.

In the meantime, the Seahawks recently had 5 different defenders nailed for PEDs. They all claimed it was Adderall, but since only the player can reveal what the positive test was for--as per the CBA--we can safely suspect they were lying (but even if not... Adderall!)

So are you going to conjure up the same embellished outrage for them, or do they need to win a few more Super Bowls and whup your favorite team a couple more times first?

The last 5 for PEDs:

Bruce Irvin, 5/17/2013, 4 games

Brandon Browner, 12/5/2012, 4 games

Winston Guy (not a starter), 11/20/2012, 4 games

Leroy Hill, 7/16/2010, 1 game

Shawn Springs, 11/28/2001, 4 games

Yeah, huge impact on that tainted team. Perhaps you feel like you want to include the marijuana bust or the non-suspension of Sherman? Yeah, I knew it...

ETA: Leroy Hill was suspended for substance abuse, so there has never been 5 defensive players with PEDs on the Seahawks at any point in time in their history.

 

[Green and Gold]

Pathetic thing about all this is that Brady/Belichick are no better than someone like Barry Bonds. Would have been HoF'ers even without all the crap. But the greed to be the greatest got the better of them.

Wrong thread.

 

[Hooper31]

Grown men attempting to rationalze expectations whilst simultaneously hoping no one realizes they're all just ticking time bombs of emotion. I hope you all know these are the moments you're most like a woman.

Yes, my friends often think I'm part Vulcan.

 

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This is basically another home game for the Seahawks. Seahawks fans will outnumber Pats fans at least 3 to 1 and don't forget that the Seahawks play (and win) on this field every year against the Cardinals. 12th Man goin to da desert, baby!

come a long way since superbowl 40, where there was like 5 seahawk fans and the rest were steeler fans

I think the problem was there were only 5 Seahawks fans at that point in time.

 

[biju]

This is basically another home game for the Seahawks. Seahawks fans will outnumber Pats fans at least 3 to 1 and don't forget that the Seahawks play (and win) on this field every year against the Cardinals. 12th Man goin to da desert, baby!

come a long way since superbowl 40, where there was like 5 seahawk fans and the rest were steeler fans

I think the problem was there were only 5 Seahawks fans at that point in time.

Ok, now I'll try to do it...

The reason you think that is because Boston fans can't count past 5.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

This is basically another home game for the Seahawks. Seahawks fans will outnumber Pats fans at least 3 to 1 and don't forget that the Seahawks play (and win) on this field every year against the Cardinals. 12th Man goin to da desert, baby!

come a long way since superbowl 40, where there was like 5 seahawk fans and the rest were steeler fans

No, we were there. It is just all the neutral fans became Steelers fans the moment the NFL handed everybody a terrible towel as they walked in the door.

We were there. Pittsburgh also had two false starts on the first drive if memory serves. There were definitely more pitt fans though, due to proximity and more time being good to accumulate a bandwagon.

I was there, was 40 to 1 Steelers fans on the street and 6 to 1 in the stadium at least, but a lot of neutral fans did jump on the Steelers bandwagon. Seahawks fans had the sections between the 20 and the end zone upper and lower on one side, and very small pockets otherwise. I'd have to go back to the thread to see what I wrote, but I'd guess I said similar things then.

We had towels too, the white ones they handed out and then the green ones that I seem to remember as something Seattle fans brought with them. Lots of towels, towels for everyone. Johnathan Babineaux drinking cognac in a glass and wanting to fight a Steelers heckler in the player's family section was a fond memory. All Seahawks fan mostly around me, but I was right in the middle of the Seahawks block.

 

[proninja]

This is basically another home game for the Seahawks. Seahawks fans will outnumber Pats fans at least 3 to 1 and don't forget that the Seahawks play (and win) on this field every year against the Cardinals. 12th Man goin to da desert, baby!

come a long way since superbowl 40, where there was like 5 seahawk fans and the rest were steeler fans

No, we were there. It is just all the neutral fans became Steelers fans the moment the NFL handed everybody a terrible towel as they walked in the door.

We were there. Pittsburgh also had two false starts on the first drive if memory serves. There were definitely more pitt fans though, due to proximity and more time being good to accumulate a bandwagon.

I was there, was 40 to 1 Steelers fans on the street and 6 to 1 in the stadium at least, but a lot of neutral fans did jump on the Steelers bandwagon. Seahawks fans had the sections between the 20 and the end zone upper and lower on one side, and very small pockets otherwise. I'd have to go back to the thread to see what I wrote, but I'd guess I said similar things then.

We had towels too, the white ones they handed out and then the green ones that I seem to remember as something Seattle fans brought with them. Lots of towels, towels for everyone. Johnathan Babineaux drinking cognac in a glass and wanting to fight a Steelers heckler in the player's family section was a fond memory. All Seahawks fan mostly around me, but I was right in the middle of the Seahawks block.

I was in the north endzone, and mostly surrounded by Steelers fans. Players section sounds like more fun.

 

[Jercules]

Pathetic thing about all this is that Brady/Belichick are no better than someone like Barry Bonds. Would have been HoF'ers even without all the crap. But the greed to be the greatest got the better of them.

Lol. Sooo salty, I luv it Where's the proof either cheated? Exactly.

It got burned.

Typical excuse.

Okay. Sure. Typical...And what really happened. Sorry you want me to say flying monkeys stole them? Would that better entertain you?

They had a guy with a camera on the sidelines, when he should have used a pen and paper. Seven years ago.

In the meantime, the Seahawks recently had 5 different defenders nailed for PEDs. They all claimed it was Adderall, but since only the player can reveal what the positive test was for--as per the CBA--we can safely suspect they were lying (but even if not... Adderall!)

So are you going to conjure up the same embellished outrage for them, or do they need to win a few more Super Bowls and whup your favorite team a couple more times first?

The last 5 for PEDs:

Bruce Irvin, 5/17/2013, 4 games

Brandon Browner, 12/5/2012, 4 games

Winston Guy (not a starter), 11/20/2012, 4 games

Leroy Hill, 7/16/2010, 1 game

Shawn Springs, 11/28/2001, 4 games

Yeah, huge impact on that tainted team. Perhaps you feel like you want to include the marijuana bust or the non-suspension of Sherman? Yeah, I knew it...

ETA: Leroy Hill was suspended for substance abuse, so there has never been 5 defensive players with PEDs on the Seahawks at any point in time in their history.

John Moffit, Allen Barbre, Winston Guy, Brandon Browner, Bruce Irvin, and... Richard Sherman, who successful appealed his 'conviction' because of a technicality that "didn't skew the results of his test" (http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/5/18/4342670/seattle-adderall-seahawks-bruce-irvin-suspension).

Now again, given my explanation of the Adderall thing up in the quoted message... just admit it, they're 'roid monkeys! Admit it!

Or if not, maybe (just maybe), have the class not to throw stones, hmm?

 

[Tanner9919]

putting aside the other stuff, and talking strictly about the game:

while Seattle needed a miracle to get here, they're here.

NE really hasn't been a dominant team on defense , finishing pretty much in the middle of the pack in nearly every statistical category..17th in pass yards, 12th in TD and INT, 16th in NY/a, 12th in rush attempts,9th in yards, 9 y/a..but that number is skewed by the fact that they had big leads in games and opposing teams didn't run on them..

their offense hides a very deficient defense.

going off that, they'll try to do what others have tried to do - limit Marshawn Lynch..they won't succeed.Beast Mode beats everyone.and when that is working,the play action is working,and Wilson thrives..

even if they have to pass the ball,the weak NE secondary can't keep pace..

I would expect Lynch to post 125+ yards rushing, while Wilson gets his..

this NE team needed its own miracles and sneaky plays and trickery to beat the Ravens, a team with a shaky secondary at best..they're lucky to have come out of that game with a win.

the Colts win was just a matter of a not-ready-for-primetime team vs NE..Colts didn't belong there, they beat a Broncos team in turmoil,and a Cincy team @ home, a team that never wins in playoffs..

just a fews weeks ago, NE barely beat the hapless Jets..but the Jets ran the ball down their throats..seems pretty obvious, stop the Jets running game,and force Geno into mistakes, make him try to beat you singlehandedly ...there's only so much luck a team can have before it all runs out..

it's wrong to assume that the 45-7 beatdown has any substance - it doesn't. the team with the extremely weak defense that miraculously overcame two 14 pt deficits to beat the Ravens , the team that barely scratched by the 4-win Jets on a last second missed FG opportunity, is more like the team that we're going to see here..

Seattle got their bad game out of the way..

Pete Carroll has a stick up his #### about BB and him taking over the Pats after Carroll was fired. it'll come out on SB sunday..last time a coach of a Superbowl team, squared off against the guy who replaced him on another team, was Gruden v. Callahan and Gruden smashed the Raiders.

I fully expect Seattle to do a beatdown on NE, not nearly as bad as last year's SB game v. Denver, but probably every bit as bad as Denver's thrashing of NE in last year's Championship Game, where the Pats gave up 507 yards off offense, 107 rushing , 400 passing, while only posting 256 yards passing and 64 yards rushing themselves..

Seattle is going to run roughshod over NE, Patricia will be badly outcoached as per usual.he's just not a good DC..

also, NE averages what, 17 pts in SBs?

so we know they won't score much, and we know they cannot stop the run,and Revis gets beat on a regular basis because he's not nearly as good as he used to be, and what we're left with is a freight train coming down about to crush a Ford Pinto stalled on the tracks..

this is going to be fun to watch..

35-14 Seattle..and might not even be that close..if Carroll gets the chance to do it,he'll run up the score..

I see no way NE can hang with them.they've survived on smoke and Mirrors all season long it all comes to an end next Sunday..

 

[Anarchy99]

In 5 games against Top 10 offenses, NE allowed 105 points. In 5 games against Top 10 offenses, SEA allowed 102 points.

 

[Anarchy99]

In 4 games against Top 10 defenses (left of last game against BUF), NE has averaged 30 ppg. In 5 games against Top 10 defenses, SEA has averaged 22 ppg.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

putting aside the other stuff, and talking strictly about the game:

while Seattle needed a miracle to get here, they're here.

NE really hasn't been a dominant team on defense , finishing pretty much in the middle of the pack in nearly every statistical category..17th in pass yards, 12th in TD and INT, 16th in NY/a, 12th in rush attempts,9th in yards, 9 y/a..but that number is skewed by the fact that they had big leads in games and opposing teams didn't run on them..

their offense hides a very deficient defense.

going off that, they'll try to do what others have tried to do - limit Marshawn Lynch..they won't succeed.Beast Mode beats everyone.and when that is working,the play action is working,and Wilson thrives..

even if they have to pass the ball,the weak NE secondary can't keep pace..

I would expect Lynch to post 125+ yards rushing, while Wilson gets his..

this NE team needed its own miracles and sneaky plays and trickery to beat the Ravens, a team with a shaky secondary at best..they're lucky to have come out of that game with a win.

the Colts win was just a matter of a not-ready-for-primetime team vs NE..Colts didn't belong there, they beat a Broncos team in turmoil,and a Cincy team @ home, a team that never wins in playoffs..

just a fews weeks ago, NE barely beat the hapless Jets..but the Jets ran the ball down their throats..seems pretty obvious, stop the Jets running game,and force Geno into mistakes, make him try to beat you singlehandedly ...there's only so much luck a team can have before it all runs out..

it's wrong to assume that the 45-7 beatdown has any substance - it doesn't. the team with the extremely weak defense that miraculously overcame two 14 pt deficits to beat the Ravens , the team that barely scratched by the 4-win Jets on a last second missed FG opportunity, is more like the team that we're going to see here..

Seattle got their bad game out of the way..

Pete Carroll has a stick up his #### about BB and him taking over the Pats after Carroll was fired. it'll come out on SB sunday..last time a coach of a Superbowl team, squared off against the guy who replaced him on another team, was Gruden v. Callahan and Gruden smashed the Raiders.

I fully expect Seattle to do a beatdown on NE, not nearly as bad as last year's SB game v. Denver, but probably every bit as bad as Denver's thrashing of NE in last year's Championship Game, where the Pats gave up 507 yards off offense, 107 rushing , 400 passing, while only posting 256 yards passing and 64 yards rushing themselves..

Seattle is going to run roughshod over NE, Patricia will be badly outcoached as per usual.he's just not a good DC..

also, NE averages what, 17 pts in SBs?

so we know they won't score much, and we know they cannot stop the run,and Revis gets beat on a regular basis because he's not nearly as good as he used to be, and what we're left with is a freight train coming down about to crush a Ford Pinto stalled on the tracks..

this is going to be fun to watch..

35-14 Seattle..and might not even be that close..if Carroll gets the chance to do it,he'll run up the score..

I see no way NE can hang with them.they've survived on smoke and Mirrors all season long it all comes to an end next Sunday..

well im convinced

 

[biju]

Pathetic thing about all this is that Brady/Belichick are no better than someone like Barry Bonds. Would have been HoF'ers even without all the crap. But the greed to be the greatest got the better of them.

Lol. Sooo salty, I luv it Where's the proof either cheated? Exactly.

It got burned.

Typical excuse.

Okay. Sure. Typical...And what really happened. Sorry you want me to say flying monkeys stole them? Would that better entertain you?

They had a guy with a camera on the sidelines, when he should have used a pen and paper. Seven years ago.

In the meantime, the Seahawks recently had 5 different defenders nailed for PEDs. They all claimed it was Adderall, but since only the player can reveal what the positive test was for--as per the CBA--we can safely suspect they were lying (but even if not... Adderall!)

So are you going to conjure up the same embellished outrage for them, or do they need to win a few more Super Bowls and whup your favorite team a couple more times first?

The last 5 for PEDs:

Bruce Irvin, 5/17/2013, 4 games

Brandon Browner, 12/5/2012, 4 games

Winston Guy (not a starter), 11/20/2012, 4 games

Leroy Hill, 7/16/2010, 1 game

Shawn Springs, 11/28/2001, 4 games

Yeah, huge impact on that tainted team. Perhaps you feel like you want to include the marijuana bust or the non-suspension of Sherman? Yeah, I knew it...

ETA: Leroy Hill was suspended for substance abuse, so there has never been 5 defensive players with PEDs on the Seahawks at any point in time in their history.

John Moffit, Allen Barbre, Winston Guy, Brandon Browner, Bruce Irvin, and... Richard Sherman, who successful appealed his 'conviction' because of a technicality that "didn't skew the results of his test" (http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/5/18/4342670/seattle-adderall-seahawks-bruce-irvin-suspension).

Now again, given my explanation of the Adderall thing up in the quoted message... just admit it, they're 'roid monkeys! Admit it!

Or if not, maybe (just maybe), have the class not to throw stones, hmm?

You said defenders. Moffit and Barbre are offensive linemen. And of course, Sherman wasn't suspended and has never tested positive at any time before or since.

What part of my comments have thrown stones or been classless?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Brandon Browner a patriot? HMMM

 

[12punch]

putting aside the other stuff, and talking strictly about the game:

while Seattle needed a miracle to get here, they're here.

NE really hasn't been a dominant team on defense , finishing pretty much in the middle of the pack in nearly every statistical category..17th in pass yards, 12th in TD and INT, 16th in NY/a, 12th in rush attempts,9th in yards, 9 y/a..but that number is skewed by the fact that they had big leads in games and opposing teams didn't run on them..

their offense hides a very deficient defense.

going off that, they'll try to do what others have tried to do - limit Marshawn Lynch..they won't succeed.Beast Mode beats everyone.and when that is working,the play action is working,and Wilson thrives..

even if they have to pass the ball,the weak NE secondary can't keep pace..

I would expect Lynch to post 125+ yards rushing, while Wilson gets his..

this NE team needed its own miracles and sneaky plays and trickery to beat the Ravens, a team with a shaky secondary at best..they're lucky to have come out of that game with a win.

the Colts win was just a matter of a not-ready-for-primetime team vs NE..Colts didn't belong there, they beat a Broncos team in turmoil,and a Cincy team @ home, a team that never wins in playoffs..

just a fews weeks ago, NE barely beat the hapless Jets..but the Jets ran the ball down their throats..seems pretty obvious, stop the Jets running game,and force Geno into mistakes, make him try to beat you singlehandedly ...there's only so much luck a team can have before it all runs out..

it's wrong to assume that the 45-7 beatdown has any substance - it doesn't. the team with the extremely weak defense that miraculously overcame two 14 pt deficits to beat the Ravens , the team that barely scratched by the 4-win Jets on a last second missed FG opportunity, is more like the team that we're going to see here..

Seattle got their bad game out of the way..

Pete Carroll has a stick up his #### about BB and him taking over the Pats after Carroll was fired. it'll come out on SB sunday..last time a coach of a Superbowl team, squared off against the guy who replaced him on another team, was Gruden v. Callahan and Gruden smashed the Raiders.

I fully expect Seattle to do a beatdown on NE, not nearly as bad as last year's SB game v. Denver, but probably every bit as bad as Denver's thrashing of NE in last year's Championship Game, where the Pats gave up 507 yards off offense, 107 rushing , 400 passing, while only posting 256 yards passing and 64 yards rushing themselves..

Seattle is going to run roughshod over NE, Patricia will be badly outcoached as per usual.he's just not a good DC..

also, NE averages what, 17 pts in SBs?

so we know they won't score much, and we know they cannot stop the run,and Revis gets beat on a regular basis because he's not nearly as good as he used to be, and what we're left with is a freight train coming down about to crush a Ford Pinto stalled on the tracks..

this is going to be fun to watch..

35-14 Seattle..and might not even be that close..if Carroll gets the chance to do it,he'll run up the score..

I see no way NE can hang with them.they've survived on smoke and Mirrors all season long it all comes to an end next Sunday..

Looool Well they'll Be Playing It Out In About 10 Days, So After You Can Check The Box ScoRe And Tell Us All What happened

 

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In 5 games against Top 10 offenses, NE allowed 105 points. In 5 games against Top 10 offenses, SEA allowed 102 points.

This is impossible, because NE is a middle of the pack defense and Seattle has the best defense the universe has ever seen!

In 4 games against Top 10 defenses (left of last game against BUF), NE has averaged 30 ppg. In 5 games against Top 10 defenses, SEA has averaged 22 ppg.

This is impossible, because BEASTMODE!!1!

 

[biju]

Question for the Pats fans: how is Bryan Stork doing? Is the expectation he'll be able to play?

On our side, I'm reading that both Sherman and Thomas will play but there are questions as to whether they will be at 100%.

 

[Anarchy99]

Question for the Pats fans: how is Bryan Stork doing? Is the expectation he'll be able to play?

On our side, I'm reading that both Sherman and Thomas will play but there are questions as to whether they will be at 100%.

I doubt Stork plays. Hasn't practiced, hasn't been seen around the locker room, hasn't made an appearance for the media. My guess is he is seriously hurt.

 

[biju]

Question for the Pats fans: how is Bryan Stork doing? Is the expectation he'll be able to play?

On our side, I'm reading that both Sherman and Thomas will play but there are questions as to whether they will be at 100%.

I doubt Stork plays. Hasn't practiced, hasn't been seen around the locker room, hasn't made an appearance for the media. My guess is he is seriously hurt.

Who is his backup? Did he play well against the Colts?

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Question for the Pats fans: how is Bryan Stork doing? Is the expectation he'll be able to play?

On our side, I'm reading that both Sherman and

Thomas will play but there are questions as to whether they will be at 100%.

Read a quick blurb on Stork yesterday saying he was seen walking around the clubhouse yesterday but that doesn't say much. Seems like at this point he is more of a question mark than Thomas and Sherman.

 

[Anarchy99]

Question for the Pats fans: how is Bryan Stork doing? Is the expectation he'll be able to play?

On our side, I'm reading that both Sherman and Thomas will play but there are questions as to whether they will be at 100%.

I doubt Stork plays. Hasn't practiced, hasn't been seen around the locker room, hasn't made an appearance for the media. My guess is he is seriously hurt.

Who is his backup? Did he play well against the Colts?

Pats moved people around and the line was fine. Wendell moved from guard to center. Kline went in at guard. They actually played better in the Ravens game without Stork, and clearly they did not have a problem handling the Colts (shrinkage not with standing).

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Stork in full pads and at practice today, over a week away from the game. I would say he is playing unless there is a setback.

 

[Anarchy99]

Stork in full pads and at practice today, over a week away from the game. I would say he is playing unless there is a setback.

Makes you wonder what changed from not being able to practice at all and being out for last game to being in full pads four days later.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Stork in full pads and at practice today, over a week away from the game. I would say he is playing unless there is a setback.

Makes you wonder what changed from not being able to practice at all and being out for last game to being in full pads four days later.

most likely four days

 

[Bad_Mo]

Question for the Pats fans: how is Bryan Stork doing? Is the expectation he'll be able to play?

On our side, I'm reading that both Sherman and Thomas will play but there are questions as to whether they will be at 100%.

I doubt Stork plays. Hasn't practiced, hasn't been seen around the locker room, hasn't made an appearance for the media. My guess is he is seriously hurt.

I heard a talk radio guy say that he was encouraged because Stork was at the facility and in locker room. No comment about his injury but the talking head thought it was a positive sign given NE's secrecy and keeping really injured players away.

 

[Bad_Mo]

Did Luke Willson get banged up last week v. GB? For some reason, I keep thinking he came out and looked pretty injured...but then saw him back in for final drive.

Stinger or something?

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

putting aside the other stuff, and talking strictly about the game:

while Seattle needed a miracle to get here, they're here.

NE really hasn't been a dominant team on defense , finishing pretty much in the middle of the pack in nearly every statistical category..17th in pass yards, 12th in TD and INT, 16th in NY/a, 12th in rush attempts,9th in yards, 9 y/a..but that number is skewed by the fact that they had big leads in games and opposing teams didn't run on them..

their offense hides a very deficient defense.

going off that, they'll try to do what others have tried to do - limit Marshawn Lynch..they won't succeed.Beast Mode beats everyone.and when that is working,the play action is working,and Wilson thrives..

even if they have to pass the ball,the weak NE secondary can't keep pace..

I would expect Lynch to post 125+ yards rushing, while Wilson gets his..

this NE team needed its own miracles and sneaky plays and trickery to beat the Ravens, a team with a shaky secondary at best..they're lucky to have come out of that game with a win.

the Colts win was just a matter of a not-ready-for-primetime team vs NE..Colts didn't belong there, they beat a Broncos team in turmoil,and a Cincy team @ home, a team that never wins in playoffs..

just a fews weeks ago, NE barely beat the hapless Jets..but the Jets ran the ball down their throats..seems pretty obvious, stop the Jets running game,and force Geno into mistakes, make him try to beat you singlehandedly ...there's only so much luck a team can have before it all runs out..

it's wrong to assume that the 45-7 beatdown has any substance - it doesn't. the team with the extremely weak defense that miraculously overcame two 14 pt deficits to beat the Ravens , the team that barely scratched by the 4-win Jets on a last second missed FG opportunity, is more like the team that we're going to see here..

Seattle got their bad game out of the way..

Pete Carroll has a stick up his #### about BB and him taking over the Pats after Carroll was fired. it'll come out on SB sunday..last time a coach of a Superbowl team, squared off against the guy who replaced him on another team, was Gruden v. Callahan and Gruden smashed the Raiders.

I fully expect Seattle to do a beatdown on NE, not nearly as bad as last year's SB game v. Denver, but probably every bit as bad as Denver's thrashing of NE in last year's Championship Game, where the Pats gave up 507 yards off offense, 107 rushing , 400 passing, while only posting 256 yards passing and 64 yards rushing themselves..

Seattle is going to run roughshod over NE, Patricia will be badly outcoached as per usual.he's just not a good DC..

also, NE averages what, 17 pts in SBs?

so we know they won't score much, and we know they cannot stop the run,and Revis gets beat on a regular basis because he's not nearly as good as he used to be, and what we're left with is a freight train coming down about to crush a Ford Pinto stalled on the tracks..

this is going to be fun to watch..

35-14 Seattle..and might not even be that close..if Carroll gets the chance to do it,he'll run up the score..

I see no way NE can hang with them.they've survived on smoke and Mirrors all season long it all comes to an end next Sunday..

So if the game comes out pretty much the exact opposite of what you predict (IE the usual ) will you admit you were wrong and NE was the better team?

 

[devouredbychaos]

putting aside the other stuff, and talking strictly about the game:

while Seattle needed a miracle to get here, they're here.

NE really hasn't been a dominant team on defense , finishing pretty much in the middle of the pack in nearly every statistical category..17th in pass yards, 12th in TD and INT, 16th in NY/a, 12th in rush attempts,9th in yards, 9 y/a..but that number is skewed by the fact that they had big leads in games and opposing teams didn't run on them..

their offense hides a very deficient defense.

going off that, they'll try to do what others have tried to do - limit Marshawn Lynch..they won't succeed.Beast Mode beats everyone.and when that is working,the play action is working,and Wilson thrives..

even if they have to pass the ball,the weak NE secondary can't keep pace..

I would expect Lynch to post 125+ yards rushing, while Wilson gets his..

this NE team needed its own miracles and sneaky plays and trickery to beat the Ravens, a team with a shaky secondary at best..they're lucky to have come out of that game with a win.

the Colts win was just a matter of a not-ready-for-primetime team vs NE..Colts didn't belong there, they beat a Broncos team in turmoil,and a Cincy team @ home, a team that never wins in playoffs..

just a fews weeks ago, NE barely beat the hapless Jets..but the Jets ran the ball down their throats..seems pretty obvious, stop the Jets running game,and force Geno into mistakes, make him try to beat you singlehandedly ...there's only so much luck a team can have before it all runs out..

it's wrong to assume that the 45-7 beatdown has any substance - it doesn't. the team with the extremely weak defense that miraculously overcame two 14 pt deficits to beat the Ravens , the team that barely scratched by the 4-win Jets on a last second missed FG opportunity, is more like the team that we're going to see here..

Seattle got their bad game out of the way..

Pete Carroll has a stick up his #### about BB and him taking over the Pats after Carroll was fired. it'll come out on SB sunday..last time a coach of a Superbowl team, squared off against the guy who replaced him on another team, was Gruden v. Callahan and Gruden smashed the Raiders.

I fully expect Seattle to do a beatdown on NE, not nearly as bad as last year's SB game v. Denver, but probably every bit as bad as Denver's thrashing of NE in last year's Championship Game, where the Pats gave up 507 yards off offense, 107 rushing , 400 passing, while only posting 256 yards passing and 64 yards rushing themselves..

Seattle is going to run roughshod over NE, Patricia will be badly outcoached as per usual.he's just not a good DC..

also, NE averages what, 17 pts in SBs?

so we know they won't score much, and we know they cannot stop the run,and Revis gets beat on a regular basis because he's not nearly as good as he used to be, and what we're left with is a freight train coming down about to crush a Ford Pinto stalled on the tracks..

this is going to be fun to watch..

35-14 Seattle..and might not even be that close..if Carroll gets the chance to do it,he'll run up the score..

I see no way NE can hang with them.they've survived on smoke and Mirrors all season long it all comes to an end next Sunday..

LMAO! Nice trolling kid

 

[devouredbychaos]

Question for the Pats fans: how is Bryan Stork doing? Is the expectation he'll be able to play?

On our side, I'm reading that both Sherman and Thomas will play but there are questions as to whether they will be at 100%.

I doubt Stork plays. Hasn't practiced, hasn't been seen around the locker room, hasn't made an appearance for the media. My guess is he is seriously hurt.

I heard a talk radio guy say that he was encouraged because Stork was at the facility and in locker room. No comment about his injury but the talking head thought it was a positive sign given NE's secrecy and keeping really injured players away.

Stork returned to practice in full pads today FYI.

 

[Tanner9919]

Francesa killing Brady right now and for good reason..where is Krafty Bobby Kraft? on Goodells jet now? you cant make this up.its all a scam..shenanigans..brady never says i want to find out who did this...never said anything remotely close to it. losr. he and his shiny teeth and pompom hat..theyre passing the buck.they never said im going to find out what heppened..theyre both guilty.kraft is guilty. this is comical stuff..

where is KRAFT.??????????????????

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Francesa killing Brady right now and for good reason..where is Krafty Bobby Kraft? on Goodells jet now? you cant make this up.its all a scam..shenanigans..brady never says i want to find out who did this...never said anything remotely close to it. losr. he and his shiny teeth and pompom hat..theyre passing the buck.they never said im going to find out what heppened..theyre both guilty.kraft is guilty. this is comical stuff..

where is KRAFT.??????????????????

Kraft most likely deflated the balls himself, my guess is he doesn't want to be anywhere near the press right now

 

[Neofight]

Has Gronk commented publicly on how he likes Brady's balls?

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

Francesa killing Brady right now and for good reason..where is Krafty Bobby Kraft? on Goodells jet now? you cant make this up.its all a scam..shenanigans..brady never says i want to find out who did this...never said anything remotely close to it. losr. he and his shiny teeth and pompom hat..theyre passing the buck.they never said im going to find out what heppened..theyre both guilty.kraft is guilty. this is comical stuff..

where is KRAFT.??????????????????

Please keep this thread focused on the SB and use all the other threads for all the other stuff? Please?

FWIW: According to ESPN Brady said the following so Francesa is flat out wrong: http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/

Brady: "I'd like to know what happened as yo all would too. In the meantime I'm going to do the best I can to get prepared for the seahawks

Mike Reiss: Asked Tom Brady if he sought out member of equipment staff to ask if they altered the footballs. Says he did and he's confident they didn't.

Really I understand deflategate is big, it is important and certainly a legitimate topic, but for the love of god can we have just one thread, just one that sticks to the SB? I doubt it, but it is worth a try.

 

[Tanner9919]

cheaters gonna cheat!!!

Ive taken flack for my hating on brady over the years.its vindication time..hes a cheater..he will never sniff the HOF. take it to the bank..

been telling you people for years the Pats are no good cheaters.like a kelly clarkson country song..

 

[proninja]

Francesa killing Brady right now and for good reason..where is Krafty Bobby Kraft? on Goodells jet now? you cant make this up.its all a scam..shenanigans..brady never says i want to find out who did this...never said anything remotely close to it. losr. he and his shiny teeth and pompom hat..theyre passing the buck.they never said im going to find out what heppened..theyre both guilty.kraft is guilty. this is comical stuff..

where is KRAFT.??????????????????

Please keep this thread focused on the SB and use all the other threads for all the other stuff? Please?

FWIW: According to ESPN Brady said the following so Francesa is flat out wrong: http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/

Brady: "I'd like to know what happened as yo all would too. In the meantime I'm going to do the best I can to get prepared for the seahawks

Mike Reiss: Asked Tom Brady if he sought out member of equipment staff to ask if they altered the footballs. Says he did and he's confident they didn't.

Really I understand deflategate is big, it is important and certainly a legitimate topic, but for the love of god can we have just one thread, just one that sticks to the SB? I doubt it, but it is worth a try.

Your team's cheating is a relevant topic for the game, since it's during the games they do the cheating too. If you don't want to talk about it, I'd suggest, well, not talking about it like you're doing with this post.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Jeremy Lane doesn't think Gronk is a good player