****Super Bowl LIX - Kansas City 17-2 vs Philadelphia 17-3****(+1.5, 49.5) The Eagles are your 2024 Champions!!! (1 Viewer)

[the spanker]

KC fan
I'm concerned about Brown/Smith/Goedert more than what has been posted in here
The defense has to be aggressive to stop Barkley which puts pressure on our coverage and those receivers are no joke
PHI dominates on 3rd and 4th and short....KC sucks....Mahomes injury against DEN on a sneak makes KC dependent on weird plays that often don't work
Can see KC having to punt more than PHI...that's a problem
A tipped pass....fumbled punt....
KC will not stop the tush push like they did against BUF
Have a feeling if either team has a 4th and 6 or less or a 40+ FG attempt....they will go for the first down....and that brings pick plays and def holding calls into the spotlight
QB scrambles will be huge
PHI talent wise 22 on 22 has the advantage.....big time...but KC has experience and poise and two weeks of coaching/gameplan
One "stop" either way could be a difference maker

I was somewhat nervous last year when we played MIA....didn't think we would beat BUF at BUF....didn't think we would beat BAL at BAL....felt a little better about the super bowl

PHI D is legit....their secondary may be the best KC has faced....all year....PHI offense is almost unstoppable if they don't make mistakes...or bad coaching decisions

PHI should win this....but KC showed me last year going on the road to BUF and BAL that they prepare and you can't count them out...head says PHI....heart says KC....heart wins

KC 30
PHI 27

You always go with the thinking logical head over the heart.....ALWAYS......take the emotion out of it.

 

[jon007]

I guess the Eagles have no chance. They all picking the Chefs.

Super Bowl picks, odds, scores for Chiefs vs. Eagles: Who do analysts predict will win on Sunday?

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Re-watching LVII. The overturned Devonta 35 yd catch under 1:30 is prime “Chiefs always get the call” conspiracy fodder. Boooooo!

 

[ShamrockPride]

I guess the Eagles have no chance. They all picking the Chefs.

Super Bowl picks, odds, scores for Chiefs vs. Eagles: Who do analysts predict will win on Sunday?

As will I. Chiefs ML is and has been the easiest money ever for the past couple of seasons.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

I'm liking the under here, just barely though. Neither team gives up a ton of points, Philly is 2nd in scoring D and KC is 4th.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I bring this up often because I think he is a legit all-time-all-pro player….The best player in the Super Bowl is Chris Jones.

If the Eagles can stop him from wrecking shop on crucial downs they win. If they can’t, they don’t.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

200 yards rushing by Barkley and a 2 to 1 edge in time of possession by the Eagles.

What’s Timmy Smith got, 210? That’s would be cool if he topped it.


ETA - looked it up,

Timmy Smith
22 carries for 204 yards, 1 catch for 9 yards and scored 2 touchdowns in Super Bowl XXII

 

[Snotbubbles]

I bring this up often because I think he is a legit all-time-all-pro player….The best player in the Super Bowl is Chris Jones.

If the Eagles can stop him from wrecking shop on crucial downs they win. If they can’t, they don’t.

His PFF run defense grade is only above average (64.3, 38th/219 DL). If the Eagles just stay ahead of the chains, they can continue to run the ball on all downs to limit Jones' best asset, his pass rush (91.0, 1st/219 DL). I really think KC is going to crash Saquon on the RPOs, Hurts could have 15+ rushes this game. I would be looking at Hurts rushing prop bets, I think he's going to have a day running the ball.

 

[Faust]

Super Bowl 59: Must-know stats and storylines ahead of Eagles vs. Chiefs

 

[cheese]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

I'm liking the under here, just barely though. Neither team gives up a ton of points, Philly is 2nd in scoring D and KC is 4th.

KC moves to 13th if you look at points allowed per drive. The defense is on the field less than anyone in the league and knows how to close out games with a lead. I don't expect KC's defense can win them the game. They need Mahomes to put them in the same position he usually does.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

I'm liking the under here, just barely though. Neither team gives up a ton of points, Philly is 2nd in scoring D and KC is 4th.

KC moves to 13th if you look at points allowed per drive. The defense is on the field less than anyone in the league and knows how to close out games with a lead. I don't expect KC's defense can win them the game. They need Mahomes to put them in the same position he usually does.

IIRC, Chris Jones is the reason Mahomes was allowed the opportunity for his game winning drives. Dude ALWAYS makes huge plays at the end of Chiefs games.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I bring this up often because I think he is a legit all-time-all-pro player….The best player in the Super Bowl is Chris Jones.

If the Eagles can stop him from wrecking shop on crucial downs they win. If they can’t, they don’t.

His PFF run defense grade is only above average (64.3, 38th/219 DL). If the Eagles just stay ahead of the chains, they can continue to run the ball on all downs to limit Jones' best asset, his pass rush (91.0, 1st/219 DL). I really think KC is going to crash Saquon on the RPOs, Hurts could have 15+ rushes this game. I would be looking at Hurts rushing prop bets, I think he's going to have a day running the ball.

WE got this game in the bag! GO BIRDS!!!!!!!!!

 

[Snotbubbles]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

I'm liking the under here, just barely though. Neither team gives up a ton of points, Philly is 2nd in scoring D and KC is 4th.

KC moves to 13th if you look at points allowed per drive. The defense is on the field less than anyone in the league and knows how to close out games with a lead. I don't expect KC's defense can win them the game. They need Mahomes to put them in the same position he usually does.

I don't know, looking at how the teams are built, everything is telling me that KC is going to have a tough time scoring a bunch of points (I've seen people predict 30+ for them). They're one dimensional on offense. Their RZ efficiency isn't great. Their defense doesn't get many turnovers. They have to fight and claw to put points on the board. I have a hard time seeing them getting 30 on Sunday.

 

[ChiefD]

I don't know, looking at how the teams are built, everything is telling me that KC is going to have a tough time scoring a bunch of points (I've seen people predict 30+ for them). They're one dimensional on offense. Their RZ efficiency isn't great. Their defense doesn't get many turnovers. They have to fight and claw to put points on the board. I have a hard time seeing them getting 30 on Sunday.

I do agree with this. The Chiefs offense has been rough the last two years.

It's one of those deals as Chiefs fans where we just hope they can put it together for at least one game. But this isn't the defense to do that against.

All the stats, the matchups, the lineup depth.....everything says Eagles. It just does.

You look at the Chiefs at it's like:

But.....Patrick.......

If I'm putting actual money on this game, I'm betting the Eagles money line all day.

 

[Insein]

I bring this up often because I think he is a legit all-time-all-pro player….The best player in the Super Bowl is Chris Jones.

If the Eagles can stop him from wrecking shop on crucial downs they win. If they can’t, they don’t.

His PFF run defense grade is only above average (64.3, 38th/219 DL). If the Eagles just stay ahead of the chains, they can continue to run the ball on all downs to limit Jones' best asset, his pass rush (91.0, 1st/219 DL). I really think KC is going to crash Saquon on the RPOs, Hurts could have 15+ rushes this game. I would be looking at Hurts rushing prop bets, I think he's going to have a day running the ball.

WE got this game in the bag! GO BIRDS!!!!!!!!!

I'm taking these posts unironically. You have seen the light.

 

[DocHolliday]

I don't know, looking at how the teams are built, everything is telling me that KC is going to have a tough time scoring a bunch of points (I've seen people predict 30+ for them). They're one dimensional on offense. Their RZ efficiency isn't great. Their defense doesn't get many turnovers. They have to fight and claw to put points on the board. I have a hard time seeing them getting 30 on Sunday.

I do agree with this. The Chiefs offense has been rough the last two years.

It's one of those deals as Chiefs fans where we just hope they can put it together for at least one game. But this isn't the defense to do that against.

All the stats, the matchups, the lineup depth.....everything says Eagles. It just does.

You look at the Chiefs at it's like:

But.....Patrick.......

If I'm putting actual money on this game, I'm betting the Eagles money line all day.

Just the opposite here. The Chiefs were gifted wins all season including the playoffs thanks to horrible calls by the refs. There is no reason for that to end. Fans can stomp their feet all they want but it makes sense for the NFL to capitalize on the popularity of KC the last year that it’s possible. KC has won the SB before it started.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I bring this up often because I think he is a legit all-time-all-pro player….The best player in the Super Bowl is Chris Jones.

If the Eagles can stop him from wrecking shop on crucial downs they win. If they can’t, they don’t.

His PFF run defense grade is only above average (64.3, 38th/219 DL). If the Eagles just stay ahead of the chains, they can continue to run the ball on all downs to limit Jones' best asset, his pass rush (91.0, 1st/219 DL). I really think KC is going to crash Saquon on the RPOs, Hurts could have 15+ rushes this game. I would be looking at Hurts rushing prop bets, I think he's going to have a day running the ball.

WE got this game in the bag! GO BIRDS!!!!!!!!!

I'm taking these posts unironically. You have seen the light.

I am a big NFC/NFCE guy. I will be rooting for the Eagles for real because of this.

ETA - And I dont want the Cheifs to get 3 in a row. Cant stand Kelce. Closing in on Rice's records is just vomit inducing.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Who is the unheralded player that will show up? Someone like calcaterra. There’s always one from KC. Hollywood?

 

[Snotbubbles]

Who is the unheralded player that will show up? Someone like calcaterra. There’s always one from KC. Hollywood?

Goedert, not that he's unheralded, but he's like 4th in line. He could have an absolute monster of a game.

 

[BassNBrew]

Who is the unheralded player that will show up? Someone like calcaterra. There’s always one from KC. Hollywood?

You nailed it, Hollywood. You have an A list Brown then you have Hollywood Brown.

 

[Insein]

Who is the unheralded player that will show up? Someone like calcaterra. There’s always one from KC. Hollywood?

Jahan Dotson might have a deep shot in him.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I bring this up often because I think he is a legit all-time-all-pro player….The best player in the Super Bowl is Chris Jones.

If the Eagles can stop him from wrecking shop on crucial downs they win. If they can’t, they don’t.

His PFF run defense grade is only above average (64.3, 38th/219 DL). If the Eagles just stay ahead of the chains, they can continue to run the ball on all downs to limit Jones' best asset, his pass rush (91.0, 1st/219 DL). I really think KC is going to crash Saquon on the RPOs, Hurts could have 15+ rushes this game. I would be looking at Hurts rushing prop bets, I think he's going to have a day running the ball.

WE got this game in the bag! GO BIRDS!!!!!!!!!

I'm taking these posts unironically. You have seen the light.

. I will be rooting for the Eagles for real because of this.

I’m not sure we can be friends anymore

 

[renesauz]

I don't know, looking at how the teams are built, everything is telling me that KC is going to have a tough time scoring a bunch of points (I've seen people predict 30+ for them). They're one dimensional on offense. Their RZ efficiency isn't great. Their defense doesn't get many turnovers. They have to fight and claw to put points on the board. I have a hard time seeing them getting 30 on Sunday.

I do agree with this. The Chiefs offense has been rough the last two years.

It's one of those deals as Chiefs fans where we just hope they can put it together for at least one game. But this isn't the defense to do that against.

All the stats, the matchups, the lineup depth.....everything says Eagles. It just does.

You look at the Chiefs at it's like:

But.....Patrick.......

If I'm putting actual money on this game, I'm betting the Eagles money line all day.

Just the opposite here. The Chiefs were gifted wins all season including the playoffs thanks to horrible calls by the refs. There is no reason for that to end. Fans can stomp their feet all they want but it makes sense for the NFL to capitalize on the popularity of KC the last year that it’s possible. KC has won the SB before it started.

Whole heartedly disagree. The NFL has little to gain by "fixing" games, and a TON to lose. Now, the Chiefs have had far more of their fair share of borderline calls go their way...I just disagree that it's intentional. Refs have a tendency to give the benefit of the doubt to great teams, and to great/star players. They have in every era, regardless of who was good/bad at the time. Chiefs have been that team lately, they've been a great team, filled with star players. I personally think this is the weakest of their recent Super Bowl teams, for reasons I've clearly stated here several times, but they still have one of the games best coaches, best QB's, and for whatever reason, best records. Teams sporting those sorts of things have ALWAYS gotten more then their fair share of close calls. It will end, and likely very soon.

TLDR: Refs aren't intentionally giving the Chiefs advantages, but the chiefs have enjoyed more then their fair share of close calls

 

[fred_1_15301]

I don't know, looking at how the teams are built, everything is telling me that KC is going to have a tough time scoring a bunch of points (I've seen people predict 30+ for them). They're one dimensional on offense. Their RZ efficiency isn't great. Their defense doesn't get many turnovers. They have to fight and claw to put points on the board. I have a hard time seeing them getting 30 on Sunday.

I do agree with this. The Chiefs offense has been rough the last two years.

It's one of those deals as Chiefs fans where we just hope they can put it together for at least one game. But this isn't the defense to do that against.

All the stats, the matchups, the lineup depth.....everything says Eagles. It just does.

You look at the Chiefs at it's like:

But.....Patrick.......

If I'm putting actual money on this game, I'm betting the Eagles money line all day.

Just the opposite here. The Chiefs were gifted wins all season including the playoffs thanks to horrible calls by the refs. There is no reason for that to end. Fans can stomp their feet all they want but it makes sense for the NFL to capitalize on the popularity of KC the last year that it’s possible. KC has won the SB before it started.

Whole heartedly disagree. The NFL has little to gain by "fixing" games, and a TON to lose. Now, the Chiefs have had far more of their fair share of borderline calls go their way...I just disagree that it's intentional. Refs have a tendency to give the benefit of the doubt to great teams, and to great/star players. They have in every era, regardless of who was good/bad at the time. Chiefs have been that team lately, they've been a great team, filled with star players. I personally think this is the weakest of their recent Super Bowl teams, for reasons I've clearly stated here several times, but they still have one of the games best coaches, best QB's, and for whatever reason, best records. Teams sporting those sorts of things have ALWAYS gotten more then their fair share of close calls. It will end, and likely very soon.

TLDR: Refs aren't intentionally giving the Chiefs advantages, but the chiefs have enjoyed more then their fair share of close calls

I like to believe the Doc was being sarcastic with his post but I just can’t tell for sure.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

I'm liking the under here, just barely though. Neither team gives up a ton of points, Philly is 2nd in scoring D and KC is 4th.

Refs will let them play. It’s the SB.

This has a high scoring game written all over it, past stats be damned. These offenses will score points.

That’s my gut call, and how I bet it.

 

[efactor]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

I'm liking the under here, just barely though. Neither team gives up a ton of points, Philly is 2nd in scoring D and KC is 4th.

Refs will let them play. It’s the SB.

I really hate this narrative of "let them play". Game should be officiated like every other game. Follow the rules and don't call phantom penalties. If it's a penalty in the regular season, it's a penalty in the super bowl.

Nobody wants a flagfest, but you can't change how the game is called in the last week of the season.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

I'm liking the under here, just barely though. Neither team gives up a ton of points, Philly is 2nd in scoring D and KC is 4th.

Refs will let them play. It’s the SB.

I really hate this narrative of "let them play". Game should be officiated like every other game. Follow the rules and don't call phantom penalties. If it's a penalty in the regular season, it's a penalty in the super bowl.

Nobody wants a flagfest, but you can't change how the game is called in the last week of the season.

#74 Will false start 80% of the time and will be lined up in the back field 65% of the time. Will any of them be called?

 

[efactor]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

I'm liking the under here, just barely though. Neither team gives up a ton of points, Philly is 2nd in scoring D and KC is 4th.

Refs will let them play. It’s the SB.

I really hate this narrative of "let them play". Game should be officiated like every other game. Follow the rules and don't call phantom penalties. If it's a penalty in the regular season, it's a penalty in the super bowl.

Nobody wants a flagfest, but you can't change how the game is called in the last week of the season.

#74 Will false start 80% of the time and will be lined up in the back field 65% of the time. Will any of them be called?

Definitely won't if the Refs "let them play". That's code for not calling penalties. ,

"I think they were holding Carter again, maybe I should call it".

"No, let em play"

 

[Stinkin Ref]

some might think the whiners have swung the national narrative enough that any ref getting ready to pull the trigger on a flag is going to be processing the possible scrutiny before tossing it....I however have confidence the refs will be stronger and more confident then that and will call a fair game....

and again....a "fair" game doesn't mean an "even" game...one team may end up with way more penalties, but that doesn't make it unfair....

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

I'm liking the under here, just barely though. Neither team gives up a ton of points, Philly is 2nd in scoring D and KC is 4th.

Refs will let them play. It’s the SB.

I really hate this narrative of "let them play". Game should be officiated like every other game. Follow the rules and don't call phantom penalties. If it's a penalty in the regular season, it's a penalty in the super bowl.

Nobody wants a flagfest, but you can't change how the game is called in the last week of the season.

You don’t have to like it, but that’s what always seems to happen.

That’s not why I think it’ll hit the over though. For one, 48.5 isn’t a very big number. For another, both of these teams can put the ball in the end zone.

I expect TDs from
• Barkley (2x IMO)
• Hurts
• Smith (chiefs 32nd success rate vs slot WR targets this year, thanks Mina Kimes)
• Kelce
• Hunt

And KC has wildcards like Worthy, DHop & Hollywood. eagles have AJB & Gogurt.

There’s just so much offensive talent here.

And maybe a few FG to boot - both of these teams can move the ball, both are successful in the red zone.

Sure they’re good defenses. But again, 27-24 doesn’t seem like some sort of earth shatteringly high number, and that’s 51 right there.

My gut says more than that will be scored though.

Also, good defenses sometimes means pick 6, or FF/DFR/DTD. Good special teams might mean KRTD or PRTD.

6 TD, 3 FG? Totally doable. Anyway, that’s MO. YMMV.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

I'm liking the under here, just barely though. Neither team gives up a ton of points, Philly is 2nd in scoring D and KC is 4th.

Refs will let them play. It’s the SB.

I really hate this narrative of "let them play". Game should be officiated like every other game. Follow the rules and don't call phantom penalties. If it's a penalty in the regular season, it's a penalty in the super bowl.

Nobody wants a flagfest, but you can't change how the game is called in the last week of the season.

You don’t have to like it, but that’s what always seems to happen.

That’s not why I think it’ll hit the over though. For one, 48.5 isn’t a very big number. For another, both of these teams can put the ball in the end zone.

I expect TDs from
• Barkley (2x IMO)
• Hurts
• Smith (chiefs 32nd success rate vs slot WR targets this year, thanks Mina Kimes)
• Kelce
• Hunt

And KC has wildcards like Worthy, DHop & Hollywood. eagles have AJB & Gogurt.

There’s just so much offensive talent here.

And maybe a few FG to boot - both of these teams can move the ball, both are successful in the red zone.

Sure they’re good defenses. But again, 27-24 doesn’t seem like some sort of earth shatteringly high number, and that’s 51 right there.

My gut says more than that will be scored though.

Also, good defenses sometimes means pick 6, or FF/DFR/DTD. Good special teams might mean KRTD or PRTD.

6 TD, 3 FG? Totally doable. Anyway, that’s MO. YMMV.

48.5 seems low, but go look at SB scores. 10 of the last 19 have gone under that total.

 

[efactor]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

I'm liking the under here, just barely though. Neither team gives up a ton of points, Philly is 2nd in scoring D and KC is 4th.

Refs will let them play. It’s the SB.

I really hate this narrative of "let them play". Game should be officiated like every other game. Follow the rules and don't call phantom penalties. If it's a penalty in the regular season, it's a penalty in the super bowl.

Nobody wants a flagfest, but you can't change how the game is called in the last week of the season.

You don’t have to like it, but that’s what always seems to happen.

That’s not why I think it’ll hit the over though. For one, 48.5 isn’t a very big number. For another, both of these teams can put the ball in the end zone.

I expect TDs from
• Barkley (2x IMO)
• Hurts
• Smith (chiefs 32nd success rate vs slot WR targets this year, thanks Mina Kimes)
• Kelce
• Hunt

And KC has wildcards like Worthy, DHop & Hollywood. eagles have AJB & Gogurt.

There’s just so much offensive talent here.

And maybe a few FG to boot - both of these teams can move the ball, both are successful in the red zone.

Sure they’re good defenses. But again, 27-24 doesn’t seem like some sort of earth shatteringly high number, and that’s 51 right there.

My gut says more than that will be scored though.

Also, good defenses sometimes means pick 6, or FF/DFR/DTD. Good special teams might mean KRTD or PRTD.

6 TD, 3 FG? Totally doable. Anyway, that’s MO. YMMV.

48.5 seems low, but go look at SB scores. 10 of the last 19 have gone under that total.

But the last time these two teams played, it was 73. Since that was only 2 years ago, hard to ignore. Eagles offense is even better with Barkley. Over seems pretty solid.

 

[ChiefD]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

I'm liking the under here, just barely though. Neither team gives up a ton of points, Philly is 2nd in scoring D and KC is 4th.

Refs will let them play. It’s the SB.

I really hate this narrative of "let them play". Game should be officiated like every other game. Follow the rules and don't call phantom penalties. If it's a penalty in the regular season, it's a penalty in the super bowl.

Nobody wants a flagfest, but you can't change how the game is called in the last week of the season.

#74 Will false start 80% of the time and will be lined up in the back field 65% of the time. Will any of them be called?

I hope they call them all so all you people will just shut up for once.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

I'm liking the under here, just barely though. Neither team gives up a ton of points, Philly is 2nd in scoring D and KC is 4th.

Refs will let them play. It’s the SB.

I really hate this narrative of "let them play". Game should be officiated like every other game. Follow the rules and don't call phantom penalties. If it's a penalty in the regular season, it's a penalty in the super bowl.

Nobody wants a flagfest, but you can't change how the game is called in the last week of the season.

You don’t have to like it, but that’s what always seems to happen.

That’s not why I think it’ll hit the over though. For one, 48.5 isn’t a very big number. For another, both of these teams can put the ball in the end zone.

I expect TDs from
• Barkley (2x IMO)
• Hurts
• Smith (chiefs 32nd success rate vs slot WR targets this year, thanks Mina Kimes)
• Kelce
• Hunt

And KC has wildcards like Worthy, DHop & Hollywood. eagles have AJB & Gogurt.

There’s just so much offensive talent here.

And maybe a few FG to boot - both of these teams can move the ball, both are successful in the red zone.

Sure they’re good defenses. But again, 27-24 doesn’t seem like some sort of earth shatteringly high number, and that’s 51 right there.

My gut says more than that will be scored though.

Also, good defenses sometimes means pick 6, or FF/DFR/DTD. Good special teams might mean KRTD or PRTD.

6 TD, 3 FG? Totally doable. Anyway, that’s MO. YMMV.

48.5 seems low, but go look at SB scores. 10 of the last 19 have gone under that total.

But the last time these two teams played, it was 73. Since that was only 2 years ago, hard to ignore. Eagles offense is even better with Barkley. Over seems pretty solid.

Exactly

 

[unckeyherb]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

I'm liking the under here, just barely though. Neither team gives up a ton of points, Philly is 2nd in scoring D and KC is 4th.

KC moves to 13th if you look at points allowed per drive. The defense is on the field less than anyone in the league and knows how to close out games with a lead. I don't expect KC's defense can win them the game. They need Mahomes to put them in the same position he usually does.

I don't know, looking at how the teams are built, everything is telling me that KC is going to have a tough time scoring a bunch of points (I've seen people predict 30+ for them). They're one dimensional on offense. Their RZ efficiency isn't great. Their defense doesn't get many turnovers. They have to fight and claw to put points on the board. I have a hard time seeing them getting 30 on Sunday.

I'll be shocked if KC puts up 30+. Honestly, I don't see them scoring more than 20-24 points.

 

[unckeyherb]

I don't know, looking at how the teams are built, everything is telling me that KC is going to have a tough time scoring a bunch of points (I've seen people predict 30+ for them). They're one dimensional on offense. Their RZ efficiency isn't great. Their defense doesn't get many turnovers. They have to fight and claw to put points on the board. I have a hard time seeing them getting 30 on Sunday.

I do agree with this. The Chiefs offense has been rough the last two years.

It's one of those deals as Chiefs fans where we just hope they can put it together for at least one game. But this isn't the defense to do that against.

All the stats, the matchups, the lineup depth.....everything says Eagles. It just does.

You look at the Chiefs at it's like:

But.....Patrick.......

If I'm putting actual money on this game, I'm betting the Eagles money line all day.

I have a ****-ton of parlays that all begin with that leg.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

a tipped pass by a lineman that gets picked or a strip sack will be the difference IMO...

KC runs a lot of "give up plays" IMO....like if they throw a incomplete on 1st down....it's almost automatic they give the ball to the RB on 2nd down hoping to get 4 yards....but many times they don't.....now it's 3rd and 8 and Mahomes can only work so much magic before it runs out....have to limit punts (on both sides really, but PHI can convert most 3rd and 4's into first downs with a 4th down push)....KC can't...

if PHI gets ahead they can put their foot on the Chiefs throat......with long sustained drives....not sure KC can do the same....so literally every play is huge

something unexpected will make the difference....and if you HAVE to settle for a FG....you better make it

 

[renesauz]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

I'm liking the under here, just barely though. Neither team gives up a ton of points, Philly is 2nd in scoring D and KC is 4th.

Refs will let them play. It’s the SB.

I really hate this narrative of "let them play". Game should be officiated like every other game. Follow the rules and don't call phantom penalties. If it's a penalty in the regular season, it's a penalty in the super bowl.

Nobody wants a flagfest, but you can't change how the game is called in the last week of the season.

personally, I just want it called the same in the last 5 minutes that it's called in the first 55 minutes. Consistency.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

I'm liking the under here, just barely though. Neither team gives up a ton of points, Philly is 2nd in scoring D and KC is 4th.

Refs will let them play. It’s the SB.

I really hate this narrative of "let them play". Game should be officiated like every other game. Follow the rules and don't call phantom penalties. If it's a penalty in the regular season, it's a penalty in the super bowl.

Nobody wants a flagfest, but you can't change how the game is called in the last week of the season.

personally, I just want it called the same in the last 5 minutes that it's called in the first 55 minutes. Consistency.

just for discussion I think I mentioned this in another thread....the level of "consistency" that people really want is almost impossible...every play other then some pre snap stuff is different...they are never exactly the same....what may look like "hand fighting both ways" on one play that doesn't draw a flag....may seem similar to a play later that does draw a flag....but they are still different....leverage, positioning, etc.... advantage/disadvantage...officials want to call a fair game in terms of penalties....not an "even" game in terms of penalties and number of flags....time of game doesn't really matter...the ref on one side of the field may see things different then the ref on the other side...."judgement" is in the eye of the beholder....it is not something that gets delivered to you and your peers on your porch by Amazon and is the same.....

 

[efactor]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

I'm liking the under here, just barely though. Neither team gives up a ton of points, Philly is 2nd in scoring D and KC is 4th.

Refs will let them play. It’s the SB.

I really hate this narrative of "let them play". Game should be officiated like every other game. Follow the rules and don't call phantom penalties. If it's a penalty in the regular season, it's a penalty in the super bowl.

Nobody wants a flagfest, but you can't change how the game is called in the last week of the season.

personally, I just want it called the same in the last 5 minutes that it's called in the first 55 minutes. Consistency.

Depends. If the game was called poorly in the first 55 minutes, calling it poorly in the last 5 isn’t a great idea

 

[modogg]

So many stats flying around this week. One that caught my attention was the SB 2 years ago, the Eagles RBs rushed 17 times for 45 yards, at 2.6 yards a carry.

Something tells me Saquan will do a bit better than carrying for 2.6 yards a carry. Cheifs have let up a lot of yards rushing over the last month or so, giving up a bunch to Mixon and Cook. Cook is the #2 RB in this years playoffs, and Barkley is #1 having 170 more yds then him. Barkley is averaging 5.1 yards a carry this post-season.

Let’s say the Eagles give Barkley 25 carries in the SB. Will he average more or less than that 5.1 yds/carry for the post-season?

 

[modogg]

Who is the unheralded player that will show up? Someone like calcaterra. There’s always one from KC. Hollywood?

Goedert, not that he's unheralded, but he's like 4th in line. He could have an absolute monster of a game.

Going on a limb with unheralded player, give me someone who shows up on the special teams. Not sure DeJean has a monster punt return in him, and hoping the kickoff team can get a turnover punching the ball out

 

[renesauz]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

I'm liking the under here, just barely though. Neither team gives up a ton of points, Philly is 2nd in scoring D and KC is 4th.

Refs will let them play. It’s the SB.

I really hate this narrative of "let them play". Game should be officiated like every other game. Follow the rules and don't call phantom penalties. If it's a penalty in the regular season, it's a penalty in the super bowl.

Nobody wants a flagfest, but you can't change how the game is called in the last week of the season.

personally, I just want it called the same in the last 5 minutes that it's called in the first 55 minutes. Consistency.

just for discussion I think I mentioned this in another thread....the level of "consistency" that people really want is almost impossible...every play other then some pre snap stuff is different...they are never exactly the same....what may look like "hand fighting both ways" on one play that doesn't draw a flag....may seem similar to a play later that does draw a flag....but they are still different....leverage, positioning, etc.... advantage/disadvantage...officials want to call a fair game in terms of penalties....not an "even" game in terms of penalties and number of flags....time of game doesn't really matter...the ref on one side of the field may see things different then the ref on the other side...."judgement" is in the eye of the beholder....it is not something that gets delivered to you and your peers on your porch by Amazon and is the same.....

absolutely, I get that. BUt you and I both know teams tend to get away with more in the final few minutes in general, which makes it even more shocking when a flag gets dropped on a soft call late when they've been keeping the flag in the pocket most of the game.

FWIW I think refs in general do a good job and are under-appreciated. But also like most of America, I think the Chiefs have had more then their fair share of breaks, but as I explained above I don't think there's anything remotely intentional or nefarious in it

 

[modogg]

I would love to hear more from KC backers what they are seeing to think KC takes this. Not that I don’t think they can (really think the game is 50/50, and would love if some alternative world if this were a 7 game match-up like NBA), but all I have heard a lot of is based on Mahones and that is kind of it. I have heard people say KC had the #4 defense, but then tons of conflicting stats on how they are susceptible to the run, passes outside the numbers, TE, etc.

Reason I ask is because I have good coin on the Eagles to win I got them at +2400 and +2025 to win the SB. Smart people would obviously hedge here and take KC to guarantee a profit, but I am having a hard time pulling the trigger on a hedge. So open to anybody talking sense into me..

 

[GoBirds]

I would love to hear more from KC backers what they are seeing to think KC takes this. Not that I don’t think they can (really think the game is 50/50, and would love if some alternative world if this were a 7 game match-up like NBA), but all I have heard a lot of is based on Mahones and that is kind of it. I have heard people say KC had the #4 defense, but then tons of conflicting stats on how they are susceptible to the run, passes outside the numbers, TE, etc.

Reason I ask is because I have good coin on the Eagles to win I got them at +2400 and +2025 to win the SB. Smart people would obviously hedge here and take KC to guarantee a profit, but I am having a hard time pulling the trigger on a hedge. So open to anybody talking sense into me..

What I overlook that worries me is that they have a couple wideouts that have been under the radar and could blow up in Hopkins and Hollywood. While I haven’t heard much hype about them this season they scare me.

 

[modogg]

I would love to hear more from KC backers what they are seeing to think KC takes this. Not that I don’t think they can (really think the game is 50/50, and would love if some alternative world if this were a 7 game match-up like NBA), but all I have heard a lot of is based on Mahones and that is kind of it. I have heard people say KC had the #4 defense, but then tons of conflicting stats on how they are susceptible to the run, passes outside the numbers, TE, etc.

Reason I ask is because I have good coin on the Eagles to win I got them at +2400 and +2025 to win the SB. Smart people would obviously hedge here and take KC to guarantee a profit, but I am having a hard time pulling the trigger on a hedge. So open to anybody talking sense into me..

What I overlook that worries me is that they have a couple wideouts that have been under the radar and could blow up in Hopkins and Hollywood. While I haven’t heard much hype about them this season they scare me.

That is a good point. Only thing I think is that KC’s running game is not very threatening, and the WRs like Hopkins and Brown are a bit of one trick ponies. If they utilize Brown could work in the Eagles favor also with KC having quicker drives and the Eagles offense getting back on the field to grind out some runs, double teaming Jones so that he is just spent by the 2nd half of the game.

 

[rzrback77]

Way out of left field on this one. We can all agree that Philly running the ball early and often with Barkley and some Hurts would have several benefits:

1. Keep the ball away from Mahomes and the mad scientist Reed
2. Shorten the game
3. Keep the lead if they can score early
4. Rest the Philly defense

So here's the plan. Every time the Eagles get at least six yards on first down, they line up for consecutive tush pushes. They could keep the clock running and definitely control the game flow. We have read much on this board that it is effective so use it. If first down fails, but they can gain eight or nine yards, then third down is a tush push. I can envision several 15-20 play drives which could take close to ten minutes off the clock.

If Philly could sustain at least four drives of this magnitude, they have probably a 45 to 15 minute time of possession advantage and likely win the game, something like 35-10. Possibly even a greater margin if KC turns the ball over.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Over 48.5 feels pretty solid.

I'm liking the under here, just barely though. Neither team gives up a ton of points, Philly is 2nd in scoring D and KC is 4th.

Refs will let them play. It’s the SB.

I really hate this narrative of "let them play". Game should be officiated like every other game. Follow the rules and don't call phantom penalties. If it's a penalty in the regular season, it's a penalty in the super bowl.

Nobody wants a flagfest, but you can't change how the game is called in the last week of the season.

personally, I just want it called the same in the last 5 minutes that it's called in the first 55 minutes. Consistency.

Depends. If the game was called poorly in the first 55 minutes, calling it poorly in the last 5 isn’t a great idea

This is generally how the NFL has been the last couple years - consistently jacked up. lol

 

[fred_1_15301]

This has a Seattle/Denver SB feel to me. I don’t think it’s very close.