Godsbrother
Footballguy
Did you see holding on that play? I didn't and it seems a lot of other non-partisan people watching the game didn't either.
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
*** Super BOWL XL Game Thread *** (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Kleck
- Start date
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
Again, it doesn't matter if he pushed off very much. When the WR extends his arm like that against the DB, it's almost always called. All he had to do was NOT extend his arm and it's a TD.The tackling penalty on Hasselbeck wasn't a good call, but that was the drive where the Steelers burned them on the trick play. I don't know that an extra 15 yards gave them that play.
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
- I maintain that SA will have a big day and that FWP will be COMPLETELY ineffective all day....which will be PIT's undoing.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
Some people just don't like to let the facts get in the way of #####ing about refs.
I agree that if he doesn't extent his arm, the ref probably doesn't call it. But that doesn't mean the extension was wrong or resulting in a push-off. The intial contact was made by the defender, and I didn't see the arm extension as a pushoff at all...it was just a measure to get his arms free.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
I think it was called because he took out both Taylor AND a blocker. Not sure that the ref who saw it realized he also made the tackle.
The_Man
Footballguy
I'm just disappointed that the refs didn't let the players settle it on the field.
In particular, the holding call that negated the Stevens catch to the 1. Take that away, and it's likely 17-14 Seattle in the fourth quarter and we're looking at an all-time great game.
Instead, a questionable holding call on a play where one and maybe two Steelers appeared to be offside (including the one who was then held) turns the whole thing into a snoozefest.
Way to go, refs! You're the reason we all tune in to watch. That was a thrilling flag you threw to take away DJax's TD, and it was so exciting to see you really take over the game in the fourth quarter.
And then to follow that up with a 15-yard penalty on a guy for tackling and it really pissed me off.
In particular, the holding call that negated the Stevens catch to the 1. Take that away, and it's likely 17-14 Seattle in the fourth quarter and we're looking at an all-time great game.
Instead, a questionable holding call on a play where one and maybe two Steelers appeared to be offside (including the one who was then held) turns the whole thing into a snoozefest.
Way to go, refs! You're the reason we all tune in to watch. That was a thrilling flag you threw to take away DJax's TD, and it was so exciting to see you really take over the game in the fourth quarter.
And then to follow that up with a 15-yard penalty on a guy for tackling and it really pissed me off.
jurb26
Footballguy
He was already open when he came ack to the defender and pushed off of him. Why he did it is beyond me, but he still did it. It was foolish IMO. He would have scored easily w/o doing it. I do feel as though the Steelers caught a break on that play. They did not catch a break form the Refs though. Jackson pushing off when he did not need to right in front of the Ref was the break.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Or the NBA...
No. That type of pass interence is so rarely called. That's why there is an uproar over it. The halftime people even replayed it and discussed it.
No. That was a solid block. At first, it appeared that Haggans would get the edge on Locklear, but the block was made. The official was unable to recognize that a tackle could made the play without holding.
I've been over this. The official runs up to the ball ready to mark it 4 to 6 inches short. Once he sees Roethlisberger laying across the endzone, he decides to signal a TD. As you state above, his original call of no TD would have stood as well.
Remember that the INT was after the phantom holding call. The play where the INT occured would not have been called.The Parker TD was an excellent play by the Steelers....that's one for them.
The trick play TD came after the phantom hold and the illegal tackle by Hasselbeck. We have no idea if Pittsburgh would have tried that play (or even been in position to do so). Even so, it was perfectly executed....that's two for them.
33% isn't too bad against a very good defense. Also, consider that there were a few times where Seattle converted but a penalty brought the play back.
I don't knock missed FGs when they are 50+ yarders.
How often does a game take place where a defense is not called for a penalty all game long?
Lighten up Francis.This is sad.Hey Shick!,Were you able to apply KY before kickoff?Congrats to Pittsburgh and their fans.
You know....bottling up frustration can be hazardous for you and others around you. I fear a rash of bannings tonight.Not necessary. I'm not going to whine. My team didn't make plays when they had opportunities.Hey Shick!,Were you able to apply KY before kickoff?Congrats to Pittsburgh and their fans.
-Josh Brown missed 2 FG's (there own fault)
-Willie Parker has a 75 yard TD (there own fault)
-All the Stevens drops (there own fault)
-Sack of Hassleback when in TD range (there own fault)
-Hassleback INT near endzone (there own fault)
-Unable to take the Roethlisberger INT the full 100 yards (there own fault)
-Randle El to Hines Ward (there own fault)
-Townsend sack to end drive (there own fault)
-Not stopping Randle El and Big Ben for the 1st downs at the end (there own fault)
-Bad clock management in the 1st half and at the end of the game (there own fault)
The Seahawks didn't deserve to win this game. Maybe the Steelers didn't but the Seahawks didn't either.
-Willie Parker has a 75 yard TD (there own fault)
-All the Stevens drops (there own fault)
-Sack of Hassleback when in TD range (there own fault)
-Hassleback INT near endzone (there own fault)
-Unable to take the Roethlisberger INT the full 100 yards (there own fault)
-Randle El to Hines Ward (there own fault)
-Townsend sack to end drive (there own fault)
-Not stopping Randle El and Big Ben for the 1st downs at the end (there own fault)
-Bad clock management in the 1st half and at the end of the game (there own fault)
The Seahawks didn't deserve to win this game. Maybe the Steelers didn't but the Seahawks didn't either.
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
LMAO @ Clayton trying to get banned.You know....bottling up frustration can be hazardous for you and others around you. I fear a rash of bannings tonight.Not necessary. I'm not going to whine. My team didn't make plays when they had opportunities.Hey Shick!,Were you able to apply KY before kickoff?Congrats to Pittsburgh and their fans.
X
Color me shocked that the NFL Network isn't ripping on NFL officials.Funny, but the guys on the NFL network just said he did.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Seahawks badly outplayed Steelers for 3 quarters. BADLY. Refs were absolutely horrible. Some of these calls will be forgotten, but they were huge. The pushoff in the endzone is what T.O. and Randy Moss do on every play. Total BS. 7-0. The holding call turned a 25 yard pass down to the 20 into 2nd and 20 - just a brutal holding call at that point. The announcers were saying the same thing at halftime. "That was a touchdown". "That was not holding". Total BS. How many punt returns did the Seahawks have called back in the 1st half? Late flag every time.
That being said, they could have won the game anyway. Jeremy Stevens was pathetic, even bobbled the wide open TD. If he could have held on to those 3 or 4 perfect passes thrown by Matt the 'Hawks win, period. And I'm not a Seattle fan, just calling it like it is. Steelers hung in there, and to their credit made the 2 huge plays, and their playmakers got them key first downs late. But for 3 quarters, the Seahawk gameplan was so much better than the Steelers it wasn't funny. I know, that's why they play 4 quarters. But no one will ever convince me that the refs didn't affect the outcome of this game in a big, big way.
That being said, they could have won the game anyway. Jeremy Stevens was pathetic, even bobbled the wide open TD. If he could have held on to those 3 or 4 perfect passes thrown by Matt the 'Hawks win, period. And I'm not a Seattle fan, just calling it like it is. Steelers hung in there, and to their credit made the 2 huge plays, and their playmakers got them key first downs late. But for 3 quarters, the Seahawk gameplan was so much better than the Steelers it wasn't funny. I know, that's why they play 4 quarters. But no one will ever convince me that the refs didn't affect the outcome of this game in a big, big way.
bearsharks
Footballguy
WWF, Globetrotters, prize fighting and Super Bowl XL all baloney on a stick for us morons. 
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
Steelers D played well. Steelers O played well enough. Seattle didn't do much.The only REALLY bad call was the personal foul on Hass on his tackle...
Off the top of my head - Haggans offsides.
jurb26
Footballguy
Honestly I think a few Steelers lined up offsides a few times, Hampton imparticualr. He lines up with that wierd stagger though, so it is tough to tell at times. Normally the refs will tell them inbetween plays that they need to back up before just throwing a flag in such cases. I don't recall Steelers jumping early though.
there were 3 bad calls but that didn't make the game like people are maknig it out to be..The Steelers were great on DEF and decent enough no OFFENSE to win liek you said...Seattle didn't deserve to win anymore then Pittsburgh though..They didn't make enough plays and that was mostly cause of the Steelers DEF coming up with big stops and Seattles own mistakes
The only REALLY bad call was the personal foul on Hass on his tackle...
Are you serious? Steelers defenders get a warning before the flag comes while Jackson gets jammed after minor contact by both players.If this seems OK to you, then you are a Steelers fan.
And Haggans jumped early before Locklear "held" him.
jurb26
Footballguy
You have to be kidding me. When did I ever say this was an exclusive event to Steeler players? Have you ever played football. This is just a common practice I have encountered in 10 years of competing and 2 years of cooching the game. It works both ways.
Usually the refs will just give a courtesy to the guys saying he you need to back it up a bit you're close to the NZ. It is the same with team sideline infractions.
Last edited by a moderator:
cobalt_27
Footballguy
They did score two touchdowns that were incorrectly called back (and a third pass to Stevens at the two that was called back on a phantom hold). Eighteen points difference (21 TDs - 3 scored on FG) in the offensive output I put squarely on the refs.BTW: I was rooting for the Steelers, had money on the Steelers and no affinity for the 'Hawks or conspiracy theories. But, Seattle played well enough to beat Pittsburgh. What they didn't do was play well enough to beat the Steelers + Zebras. Like this whole season, it was pathetic and predominantly one-sided officiating.
The only REALLY bad call was the personal foul on Hass on his tackle...
Last edited by a moderator:
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
OK.You have to be kidding me. When did I ever say this was an exclusive event to Steeler players? Have you ever played football. This is just a common practice I have encountered in 10 years of competing and 2 years of cooching the game. It works both ways.
Aussie Cowboy
Footballguy
I have this vision of ! remaining calm and restoring order over here, but at the same time, going absolutely postal on another football forum.You know....bottling up frustration can be hazardous for you and others around you. I fear a rash of bannings tonight.Not necessary. I'm not going to whine. My team didn't make plays when they had opportunities.Hey Shick!,Were you able to apply KY before kickoff?Congrats to Pittsburgh and their fans.
nerangers
Footballguy
The Game is over...
Here is the link to all of the commercials!!!
Click Here!
Loved Pizza Hut, "These Bites Were Made for Popping" and Ameriquest, "Mile High Club"
Enjoy!
Here is the link to all of the commercials!!!
Click Here!
Loved Pizza Hut, "These Bites Were Made for Popping" and Ameriquest, "Mile High Club"
Enjoy!
Last edited by a moderator:
I hate this loss. I hated some of the calls on the field, but Seattle was beat by three plays by the Steelers Offense. The pass to Hines Ward that was put in by Big Ben, the FWP big bust and run, and the Reverse pass.
Everything else can be disputed or talked about...."Seahawks were robbed" and all that, but those plays all added up to Steeler points.
We outplayed the Steelers for three quarters, but the points put up by the Steelers were all big plays that were honest and well executed. I do have a problem with all of the talk on tv about how the defense for Pitt won this game. Seattle's offense moved the ball at will for nearly the entire game. The Seattle defense which looked strong the entire first half was beaten bad on a couple of plays and that spelled the difference.
Congrats to all of you Steelers fans.
Everything else can be disputed or talked about...."Seahawks were robbed" and all that, but those plays all added up to Steeler points.
We outplayed the Steelers for three quarters, but the points put up by the Steelers were all big plays that were honest and well executed. I do have a problem with all of the talk on tv about how the defense for Pitt won this game. Seattle's offense moved the ball at will for nearly the entire game. The Seattle defense which looked strong the entire first half was beaten bad on a couple of plays and that spelled the difference.
Congrats to all of you Steelers fans.
C
CrossEyed
Guest
The Steelers had this exact call go against them earlier this year. I might be a bad rule, but apparently it's the correct call.
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
That's ridiculous. The Steelers clearly didn't play their best game, but the Seahawks played incredibly poorly within the 20s.They did score two touchdowns that were incorrectly called back (and a third pass to Stevens at the two that was called back on a phantom hold). Eighteen points difference (21 TDs - 3 scored on FG) in the offensive output I put squarely on the refs.BTW: I was rooting for the Steelers, had money on the Steelers and no affinity for the 'Hawks or conspiracy theories. But, Seattle played well enough to beat Pittsburgh. What they didn't do was play well enough to beat the Steelers + Zebras. Like this whole season, it was pathetic and predominantly one-sided officiating.
The only REALLY bad call was the personal foul on Hass on his tackle...
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I'll read this whole thread tomorrow and address anyone who warrants it. Until then,
WORLD CHAMPIONS BABY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 26 YEARS OF WAITING IS OVER !!!!!!!!!!
WORLD CHAMPIONS BABY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 26 YEARS OF WAITING IS OVER !!!!!!!!!!
C
CrossEyed
Guest
And this had very little impact on the game. The Steelers would have scored on that TD play from El to Ward no matter where they were on the field.
The only REALLY bad call was the personal foul on Hass on his tackle...
Thank you. Let's imagine for a moment that Pittsburgh's first TD drive is derailed by a marginal holding call, Parker's TD run is called back by a phantom hold, and Randle El's TD pass is stopped by a mysterious offensive pass interference call. I guess everyone would be talking about how the Steelers didn't make enough plays.They did score two touchdowns that were incorrectly called back (and a third pass to Stevens at the two that was called back on a phantom hold). Eighteen points difference (21 TDs - 3 scored on FG) in the offensive output I put squarely on the refs.
The only REALLY bad call was the personal foul on Hass on his tackle...
Similar threads
- Poll
