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Supreme Court deadlocks on Obama's executive order on illegal immigration, 4-4 (1 Viewer)
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SaintsInDome2006
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Well his EO was previously shot down, so it looks like Obama has lost this one.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Let's see...Will this thread be more about immigration or the missing ninth justice? 
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Mario Kart
Footballguy
I can't wait to read some of Obama's majority and dissenting opinions in the future.
Not to quibble, but there was no "executive order." It was an "executive memorandum." It's pretty much the same thing, but Democrats can say things like "he's only issued X # of executive orders" and be technically accurate but disingenuous.
That said, I do some work for a group that helps the undocumented navigate the DACA process so I was hoping for a different result today.
Black Box
Footballguy
I'd like to hear the legal justification for the PRO side. I don't understand it, but I'm not a lawyer.I hope no one wasby this since most of us knew with the current makeup of the Supreme court this would be the outcome..
It should have been 8-0 against as, IMO, it was an over reach on the Presidents part to bypass congress...
This seems like a pretty good collection of arguments in favor of the constitutionality of Obama's policy (from a right-leaning law professor).I hope no one was
It should have been 8-0 against as, IMO, it was an over reach on the Presidents part to bypass congress...
http://reason.com/archives/2016/04/19/yes-obamas-executive-action-deferring-de
ETA: And another article by a different right-leaning law professor:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/08/08/not-everything-the-president-wants-to-do-is-illegal/
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dparker713
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I know people are using deadlocked, but the Court really wasn't. There was a tie, but a tie means the judgment is affirmed - there is a resolution.
Jim11
Footballguy
Jim11
Footballguy
Just coincidental that SC Justices appointed by GOP Presidents & those appointed by Dem. Presidents nearly always "interpret" the law the way their nominators wish, I suppose.
It appears coincidental at first blush. But it turns out that it can be explained by the little-known fact that many Presidents choose their Supreme Court nominees non-randomly.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Jim11
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Jim11
Footballguy
So you agree that supreme court justices "cheat", rather than actually judging if a law is constitutional, according to the ummmmm, constitution?
Mario Kart
Footballguy
bueno
In a class by himself
Only to Native Americans, who were also immigrants at some point. Of course, that was then, this is now. I am legal because I was born here. That makes me indigenous, Deal with it.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Well not really. After all, Mexicans were born on this continent so they are legal as well. Some imaginary border does not take that away from them. Deal with it.
bueno
In a class by himself
Mexicans were born in Mexico - Canadians were born in Canada - Greenlanders were born in Greenland = the borders exist.If you don't believe it, go to a border crossing and the the Immigration people there that the line is imaginary.
avoiding injuries
Footballguy
I see we've eliminated borders. Yay.
That's kind of the exact opposite of what I said.
It's not that specific Justices decide cases a certain way because they were appointed by a certain President; it's that Presidents choose specific Justices to appoint because they decide cases a certain way. That's why there's a "coincidence."
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Lester Burnham
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