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Survival show that's reached an all-time low (1 Viewer)

JohnnyU

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Anyone seen Man / Woman / Wild? It's based up on a married man and his wife put in survival situations at various places around the world. She appears British and he is some ex-special forces dude with survival skills. It's almost not watchable. Their periodic kiss as each go off to better their survival situation is hokey at best. Where it gets worse is where she tries to give us basic 101 survival tips along the way that she appeared to have learned recently. He seems decently skilled, but he's no Les Stroud, Cody Lundin, Joe Teti, Dave Canterbury, or Bear Grylls. I guess these type of shows started with Survivorman and Man vs Wild and this is what it has digressed to. Same for Naked and Afraid, but at least in that show we get to see some girl bums to keep us interested. This show is absolutely horrible and I will basically watch any survival show. My favorite survival show right now is Dual Survival.

 
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There's actually one that's way worse, but I forget the name of it though. They take a married couple that is having problems and send them on a "survival adventure" with a couples counselor of some sort and have them do all kinds of difficult things while the counselor tells them how they're treating each other wrong. It's horrible, absolutely horrible.

 
Anyone seen Man / Woman / Wild? It's based up on a married man and his wife put in survival situations at various places around the world. She appears British and he is some ex-special forces dude with survival skills. It's almost not watchable. Their periodic kiss as each go off to better their survival situation is hokey at best. Where it gets worse is where she tries to give us basic 101 survival tips along the way that she appeared to have learned recently. He seems decently skilled, but he's no Les Stroud, Cody Lundin, Joe Teti, Dave Canterbury, or Bear Grylls. I guess these type of shows started with Survivorman and Man vs Wild and this is what it has digressed to. Same for Naked and Afraid, but at least in that show we get to see some girl bums to keep us interested. This show is absolutely horrible and I will basically watch any survival show. My favorite survival show right now is Dual Survival.
I have been addicted to these shows lately for some reason.

I have seen that one a while ago. I think that is the show where they caught a turtle and she started crying when he said they were going to eat it.

They found other food and spared the turtle.

My favorite by far is Les on Survivorman.

Just soothing and entertaining also seems very realistic.

Bear is like watching a guy with ADD camping on bath salts, but I can watch em.

"Look, it's a 3 ton moose, I'm gonna stab it with a bottle cap and sleep in its belly while I use the larvae from it's rectum to help cure the fungus on my foot"

Naked and afraid has grown on me.

The barefoot dude show is OK for me as well.

 
The Nat Geo Ultimate Survival shows are good too, if you dont mind a little embellishing. Its more of a team race though than a pure survival show.

 
There's actually one that's way worse, but I forget the name of it though. They take a married couple that is having problems and send them on a "survival adventure" with a couples counselor of some sort and have them do all kinds of difficult things while the counselor tells them how they're treating each other wrong. It's horrible, absolutely horrible.
I can see why you would forget the name. It appears the survival show ideas have been exhausted. Pretty sure if I turned that trash on, I would last about 30 seconds max.

 
GordonGekko said:
Anyone seen Man / Woman / Wild?
I actually liked Man Woman Wild when it was on Discovery Channel.

I've been saying for the past decade here on site that more FBG's, esp ones with kids, should have more emergency supplies on hand and some basic training in the event of a disaster or emergency. Not that long ago, a lot of NY FBGs were suffering from the flooding there and the loss of power. What is often not discussed a few years back in Japan was how hard it was to find clean drinking water for many with so much of the core infrastructure in ruins.

The way I see it, some of the shows are structured for entry level viewing and to try to appeal to a much softer interest in the genre. If Man Woman Wild gets more wives and girlfriends and daughters and sisters to consider more active preparation for possible large scale emergencies, more the better. Unfortunately those who prepare for all contingencies out there, often they are negatively labeled like they are some hillbilly gun toting militia guy with 500 cases of MREs and 10 thousand bullets.

If you have to go out and try to find clean water, baby formula, maybe insulin or other needed supplies during a civil breakdown, that's your life at risk. You aren't going to do much good for your kids in terms of love, financial support and protection if you get stabbed to death by looters because you wanted some clean water when you could have stocked up during better times for not much cost.

I like Man Woman Wild and also Lost Survivors, their spin off show on the Travel channel. I could take or leave Myke Hawke, but Ruth England, his wife, I think does a really good job of showing how to manage conflict and survival with a novice. While she's probably not so much appealing to the hard core male demographic into these shows, she's a nice easy incline point for many women out there.

Ultimately the problem with all of these shows is there are a finite number of places you can go, scenarios you can explore, and situations you can show. I like Dual Survival, but it was needed to get rid of both original guys, which they did, to have new people cover old ground and keep the show sustainable. There are only so many ways you can improvise fire. Only so many types of weather conditions. Only so many types of shelters you can build.

I like Stroud, he's very realistic, and he's very respected, but his show is really tough to push to the mainstream.

Grylls is the most marketable, but wildly over the top and often what he shows is for entertainment, not actual teaching. I think his "interview" series, where he takes a celebrity on a short survival hike, is a better use of his talents. ( He ended up taking one of the LOTR minor actors up a mountain and it was more of an interview style show than a survival show)

I think the gold standard is still Ray Mears, who is a nice balance of teaching, entertainment and general mainstream appeal that is still respectful to the core themes of preparation. A lot of his stuff is still up on YouTube for free. A lot of Dave Canterbury's stuff is on YouTube for free as well. Outside of the 42 minute cable "show" format, the shorter YT stuff is much better for learning and presentation.

Naked and Afraid I find to be unethical. It's not a survival show, it's a rubber necking show. It's like asking the audience to watch a car wreck each week. They purposely get people with some training ( very little) and probably pick people they hope will mentally crack and then starve them and try to break them to see if they will crack. There is no learning here, nothing instructive, just a means to try to exploit people who still believe they can be famous from their ten minutes on TV.

A couple of short series that I think were well done was Naked And Alone with Ed Stafford ( which I think was the catalyst for Naked and Afraid as a concept) and Out of The Wild, The Alaska Experiment.

The reality is, if you are in a bad situation where you need to wing it and survive off the land and try for rescue, there's a decent chance you might be with others and others with no experience and no training. I think MWW is a good show to sort of accommodate that kind of thought process. If a show like MWW can impart maybe 1 or 2 good tips an episode and that might help someone stuck out there if they remember it, then I see the show as worthwhile IMHO.
I agree 100% about Naked and Afraid. The only reason I've watched any of it is in hope of seeing some good looking booty and that's a pretty pathetic reason to watch a survival show. The Man / Woman / Wild show is definitely better than Naked and Afraid, but that isn't saying much.

 
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Anyone remember watching Temptation Island about 10-15 years ago?
Wife and I sent audition tapes to a bunch of reality shows back then. Temptation Island reached out to us afterwards (prior to the first season) to see how interested we were- we decided not that interested. A gb's gb turned out to be a producer for the show and told her (after the fact) that they really wanted us on the cast for "variety". After watching a couple of episodes that first season, we realized we'd be the old and out-of-shape (and less idiotic) variety. That show was absolute drek... but it would've been nice to have a bunch of young hot bodies around me on a beach for a bit.

Queer Eye for a Straight Guy also wanted to use us for the first season- we ended up turning them down and regretted it after seeing people get an entire apartment full of new furniture and clothes. Dammit- Project Runway wanted to use for the 1st and 2nd seasons, but wife thought it would be bad move professionally. We are idiots.

 

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