Survivor Season 42: Starts Wednesday March 9, 2022 (1 Viewer)

[PinkydaPimp]

That’s some nice cover up they are doing now since it’s apparent people don’t like the winner. They gave her a bunch of time on exile making it seem like an amazing and hard fought decision, which is laughable. Erika, smash this if you want immunity or don’t smash it and be on the chopping block while remembering that you were specifically chosen as the outsider of the losing tribe.

The problem is that they showed a ton of Ricard with Xander in tow in the final series of tribals making moves. She was on a tribe that didn’t even have to vote people off so what game did she have? She wasn’t in danger every week like Ricard, Shan and Xander were having to go to tribal a bunch. When they merged she wasn’t involved in the alliance of 4/5 or in the attack on Yase (sp?). She didn’t have a Liana saying she wanted Xander out. She did have her own tribe trying to throw a challenge to get her off. What gameplay did we miss? Her huddle time with Heather? She got to the end and got the votes but it wasn’t because of her game. It was because no one wanted the other two to win.

She was the underdog and played that game.  Xander wasn’t a threat to anyone.  Apparently he was the goat even if the edit didn’t show it.  Hell he didn’t even vote for a  good portion of the game.  
 

some quotes:  “

I mean I think it's as simple as Xander lucked his w5 ay into the final 4 and DeShawn played too erratically to be anyone's pick. We've seen in the past that great furious game play can bite you in the ###. Russell. Boston Rob in the winners season. Literally Shan this season.

Xander while being a likeable guy wasnt a great social player. His tribe constantly #### talked him and used and lied to him at every turn and he was none the wiser. He didnt really make any relationships post merge besides Ricard. Which did get him to the end, but you dont win by making it to final 3. You win by convincing people you deserve it which Xander also completely flubbed.

Was I the only one watching the FTC where Xander was asked several times, In different more clear ways, how his social awareness got him this far and he had no answer? It really shows how innocent and young he is because he couldn't even lie to make his game sound better. Other people had to bring up things he did in the game like the idol swerve and taking himself out of comps and getting rice for the team.

He absolutely deserved no votes after that.”

As for erika

”

•    ⁠Helps orchestrate the Naseer boot (the scene of her Shan and Heather on the log - where Heather says something absolutely bonkers and Erika is trying to soothe things over)
•    ⁠Convinces Deshawn / Danny to split the votes between Liana and Shan, which benefits neither of them and insures she won’t be idoled out.
•    ⁠In the same episode as above, has the conversation on the beach with Xander when the four “go to talk privately” where she sets up the underdogs working together (this wasn’t that well depicted but it was Erika’s moment she said wasn’t highlighted but important)
•    ⁠She and the underdogs are the deciding votes to eliminate Liana
•    ⁠She’s shown to be leading the charge and campaigning to get out Danny
•    ⁠Handles Deshawn blowing up her game with grace (at Tribal at least)
•    ⁠Never voted incorrectly the entire game
•    ⁠Makes it to F4 in a very obvious duo

As many - many people have told me over the last few days, a lot of these moves did involve other players. She did get lucky quite a few times in this game. But from the Shan vote onwards she’s been shown to be using her/Heather’s position to protect herself and get out who she targets.”

just some folks opinions i saw.  For me i simply think he lost it in the final council.  He could have explained his game better but he did not.  And that happens.  Erika is used to this being in boardrooms.  He should have never brought her to the final and read that situation incorrectly and everyone on jury noticed it.  A few spoke about it out loud when he said what his read was.  

 

[Jayrok]

I wouldn't trust anything out of her mouth.

Her actions never matched up with her words.  Despite the statement above, she still didn't vote for Deshawn.  When, exactly, did she give up on her people?

The moment one of her people tricked her and voted her off. 

 

[stbugs]

She was the underdog and played that game.  Xander wasn’t a threat to anyone.  Apparently he was the goat even if the edit didn’t show it.  Hell he didn’t even vote for a  good portion of the game.  
 

some quotes:  “

I mean I think it's as simple as Xander lucked his w5 ay into the final 4 and DeShawn played too erratically to be anyone's pick. We've seen in the past that great furious game play can bite you in the ###. Russell. Boston Rob in the winners season. Literally Shan this season.

Xander while being a likeable guy wasnt a great social player. His tribe constantly #### talked him and used and lied to him at every turn and he was none the wiser. He didnt really make any relationships post merge besides Ricard. Which did get him to the end, but you dont win by making it to final 3. You win by convincing people you deserve it which Xander also completely flubbed.

Was I the only one watching the FTC where Xander was asked several times, In different more clear ways, how his social awareness got him this far and he had no answer? It really shows how innocent and young he is because he couldn't even lie to make his game sound better. Other people had to bring up things he did in the game like the idol swerve and taking himself out of comps and getting rice for the team.

He absolutely deserved no votes after that.”

As for erika

”

•    ⁠Helps orchestrate the Naseer boot (the scene of her Shan and Heather on the log - where Heather says something absolutely bonkers and Erika is trying to soothe things over)
•    ⁠Convinces Deshawn / Danny to split the votes between Liana and Shan, which benefits neither of them and insures she won’t be idoled out.
•    ⁠In the same episode as above, has the conversation on the beach with Xander when the four “go to talk privately” where she sets up the underdogs working together (this wasn’t that well depicted but it was Erika’s moment she said wasn’t highlighted but important)
•    ⁠She and the underdogs are the deciding votes to eliminate Liana
•    ⁠She’s shown to be leading the charge and campaigning to get out Danny
•    ⁠Handles Deshawn blowing up her game with grace (at Tribal at least)
•    ⁠Never voted incorrectly the entire game
•    ⁠Makes it to F4 in a very obvious duo

As many - many people have told me over the last few days, a lot of these moves did involve other players. She did get lucky quite a few times in this game. But from the Shan vote onwards she’s been shown to be using her/Heather’s position to protect herself and get out who she targets.”

just some folks opinions i saw.  For me i simply think he lost it in the final council.  He could have explained his game better but he did not.  And that happens.  Erika is used to this being in boardrooms.  He should have never brought her to the final and read that situation incorrectly and everyone on jury noticed it.  A few spoke about it out loud when he said what his read was.  

Appreciate the thoughts but that’s opinions after the final vote to basically prove that Erika was some amazing player. The fact that she voted correctly IMHO would prove that she was a number and also wouldn’t her “pair” with Heather being a threat show that no one really perceived of her as a threat.

I do think Xander messed up, especially with Ricard at the end. He tricked Ricard and that was a big mistake looking back at it. When in the entire game did anyone ever perceive Erika as a legitimate threat? She had immunity two times. She could have been voted off so many times and the only times she came close was when her tribe was trying to throw a challenge to remove her and when Jeff gifted her the hourglass where I could see her voted off as an easy first merge vote. I think they even talked about it before the swap. That list of accomplishments was pretty weak.

 

[Beef Ravioli]

I enjoyed the season.  After watching australian survivor though its hard for ours to compete as theirs is just so next level on every portion of the show. 

Where can you watch Australian Survivor? Is it streemable? 

 

[Mr. Mojo]

The moment one of her people tricked her and voted her off. 

And when Shan left, it was the highlight of the entire season for me. 

 

[Mile High]

Where can you watch Australian Survivor? Is it streemable? 

3 seasons are available on paramount plus. 

 

[bryhamm]

Appreciate the thoughts but that’s opinions after the final vote to basically prove that Erika was some amazing player. The fact that she voted correctly IMHO would prove that she was a number and also wouldn’t her “pair” with Heather being a threat show that no one really perceived of her as a threat.

I do think Xander messed up, especially with Ricard at the end. He tricked Ricard and that was a big mistake looking back at it. When in the entire game did anyone ever perceive Erika as a legitimate threat? She had immunity two times. She could have been voted off so many times and the only times she came close was when her tribe was trying to throw a challenge to remove her and when Jeff gifted her the hourglass where I could see her voted off as an easy first merge vote. I think they even talked about it before the swap. That list of accomplishments was pretty weak.

It did NOT prove that Erika was some amazing player.  But, it showed why she was more deserving than either of the other 2, and especially Xander.

 

[Runkle]

Ricard is pretty full of himself, though. To an annoying degree. 

 

[El Floppo]

Ricard is pretty full of himself, though. To an annoying degree. 

that kind of stuff normally bugs me... but somehow it didn't. he had just been beaten, still feeling stung about it. to me, he was just voicing his own pride in the game he played- as much telling himself that while feeling down about getting voted out, to make himself feel better.

I found Lianna's pride in...I guess not throwing a tantrum after she got played... less convincing. 

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

so if this whole season was edited just to trick us, the viewers, it's even more reason for me as a viewer to bow out. since we're not on the island with them, we infer clues based on what we're shown. for them to pull the rug in the final episode is a little unsatisfying.

even if people are now saying that Xander was a goat, it's not a coincidence that there is a flood of online bewilderment from people who thought he should have won.

anyway, congrats to Erika, I guess.

 

[nysfl2]

I think the "we edited the season that way to surprise the viewers" is just an excuse that sounds better than "the jury didn't want to vote for a white guy". 

But, when they aired the question on 'using social awareness to make a move' and lingered on Xander trying to come up with an answer, it was pretty clear that he wasn't going to win.

 

[dancer]

3 seasons are available on paramount plus. 

All seasons from 2016 on are posted online on Facebook group page for The Tribe Has Spoken run by Andy Miller

Might want to watch first few seasons before watching the all starts season on paramount plus

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

+1 on Xander.

100% biased (not necessarily bitter) jury, likely influenced behind the scenes by Ricard being so sure he was the GOAT SURVIVOR and getting voted out, with Xander specifically not saving him.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

+1 on Xander.

100% biased (not necessarily bitter) jury, likely influenced behind the scenes by Ricard being so sure he was the GOAT SURVIVOR and getting voted out, with Xander specifically not saving him.

This is the game though.  It’s hard to predict what the jury will do.  That’s for the players in the game to gauge and use properly.  We all evaluate gameplay and who should win differently.  And we arent privy to all of the footage unfortunately so we have to base things on what was given to us.  

 

[Plaid Boxer]

Just watched, perplexed. The editing sucked. 

 

[DropKick]

The moment one of her people tricked her and voted her off. 

But she was willing to be 4th... if only one of them could win.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

She got to the end and got the votes but it wasn’t because of her game. It was because no one wanted the other two to win.

That's still a valid reason to award someone the win. The problem is the edit didn't give us enough info on WHY the jury thought Xander and Deshawn weren't worthy. I had deduced it about Xander, but that was greatly helped by exit interviews. All we saw with Deshawn is that Shan called him a snake, and that he got overly emotional -- but everyone gets overly emotional at points in a game where they are sleep-deprived and starving. 

I think Erika played a good game given the hand she was dealt, and I think the cast was entertaining, but the edit did a poor job of crafting the narrative of why the winner won and her main rivals lost. 

 

[Mile High]

but the edit did a poor job of crafting the narrative of why the winner won and her main rivals lost. 

What I can’t figure out is why we don't get more about the contestants. The 3 season I have seen of Survivor Australia they definitely get you more invested in all the players. 

 

[Pip's Invitation]

What I can’t figure out is why we don't get more about the contestants. The 3 season I have seen of Survivor Australia they definitely get you more invested in all the players. 

AUS has many more episodes, and longer episodes, than US. By a lot. 

Modern US Survivor has too many twists and other goings-on to do really good character development in 13-ish 42-minute episodes and a finale. If it were on Netflix or something like that, it could offer more content and include more of that stuff. But because it's on CBS and subject to the rigid structures of broadcast network schedules, that's not going to happen. 

 

[PinkydaPimp]

What I can’t figure out is why we don't get more about the contestants. The 3 season I have seen of Survivor Australia they definitely get you more invested in all the players. 

AUS has many more episodes, and longer episodes, than US. By a lot. 

Modern US Survivor has too many twists and other goings-on to do really good character development in 13-ish 42-minute episodes and a finale. If it were on Netflix or something like that, it could offer more content and include more of that stuff. But because it's on CBS and subject to the rigid structures of broadcast network schedules, that's not going to happen. 

I agree.  More character building definitely improves the season and makes theirs much more compelling.  Australia has like 3 episodes a week i believe  and they are longer so they have more time to do this. This season was shorter than normal so that likely contributes to us missing things.  

 

[Instinctive]

I think Edgic picked up pretty early on that they were screwing with us this season. It felt like an intentional edit directed at people who try to figure out the winner in advance without spoilers.

I think Erika is maybe the 2nd "worst" (by which I really mean unsatisfying to me) winner ever, behind Chris 3-days Underwood. It was the worst "twist" ever to have the stupid hourglass thing and Danny was all over it. It's one thing to have advantages all over and to earn your way and stuff (I kind of like that), but "hey you lost but if you want now you can pretend you won and get the reward" is not a twist. It was horrible. One of the worst game-related moments in the show's history (and I've watched every season, many twice). 

Xander completely blew it, in my mind - maybe at FTC, but maybe with his gameplay all island but not shown to us. If he was good, all these things could have been said:

• I knew Liana hated me the entire time and managed to eventually get her out after she targeted me from day 1 and was in the majority on my tribe and on the merge tribe and she tried to take my idol and still I came out on top. Liana, you may have hated me desperately, but I was always kind to you and I have a hard time thinking that wasn't the definition of outwit, outplay, and outlast. How could I not have your vote?
  
• I managed to save Evvie, keep Tiff around an extra vote, and make sure they didn't blow the idol in one fell swoop because I knew where every vote was going. How many players went out this season alone with an idol in their pocket?
  
• I crushed it for our tribes consistently, providing food, sharing rewards, and stepping up to be selfless. If that's not something that helped me build connections with some of you, then maybe I should have played more selfishly.
  
• I dominated the challenges aspect of the game. Period.
  
• He could have explained not letting Erika go to fire better: Hey y'all saw how trash Heather and Deshawn are at fire. Erika's good at it. I think she played an ok under the radar game, we ran the ending alliance together, and the last thing I needed was her to add fire winner to the resume. Maybe I should have gone against her instead, but no way was the right choice to let her beat Deshawn or Heather.
  
• What was this bull#### about Heather not being a goat? I think she is the worst player in all 41 seasons to ever make the FTC and it's not particularly close
  

I'm sure there's more I am missing but woof. Missed opportunities galore. 

 

[stbugs]

I think Erika is maybe the 2nd "worst" (by which I really mean unsatisfying to me) winner ever, behind Chris 3-days Underwood. It was the worst "twist" ever to have the stupid hourglass thing and Danny was all over it. It's one thing to have advantages all over and to earn your way and stuff (I kind of like that), but "hey you lost but if you want now you can pretend you won and get the reward" is not a twist. It was horrible. One of the worst game-related moments in the show's history (and I've watched every season, many twice). 

I agreed with Danny and it’s the main reason I think Erika was a terrible winner. She was on the bottom of her own tribe but they never lost and so the winning folks (mainly her tribe mates) sent her to exile. If not for a twist which was a joke, she was going home that night. I’m 99.9% sure I recall a bunch of them saying she was the easy vote after the challenge. She didn’t even have to find the advantage or do some sort of challenge or search, it was a hey you’ve got a decision to make, get immunity or not be safe. They even made it seem like there was a choice which is laughable, who won’t choose to be safe?

 

[PinkydaPimp]

If you listen to Rob Has a Podcast, they spend like 30 mins talking about the edit. 

https://youtu.be/E58spr1wwP4?t=2026

Its a good listen. 

 

[RG623]

Fitting ending and winner to cap off an awful season. Convoluted/numerous advantages, majority unlikeable cast, and bitter jury winner (similar to the blonde girl who won against Russell Hantz the first time he played). Anybody know if the ratings were done for this season?

 

[Sunday Gravy]

Stunned Erika and Deshaun even got a single vote. This should have been a slam dunk shutout for Xander. Only guy in the final three that really played the game. 

 

[Mile High]

Fitting ending and winner to cap off an awful season. Convoluted/numerous advantages, majority unlikeable cast, and bitter jury winner (similar to the blonde girl who won against Russell Hantz the first time he played). Anybody know if the ratings were done for this season?

Looking around it seems the seasons ratings dropped 10% from the premiere to the final. Season 41 ratings were down almost 20% compared to season 40.

 

[The Noid]

Just watched, perplexed. The editing sucked. 

Or, after years of fans being able to crack the code on the "Winner's Edit" they gave Xander the winner's edit treatment even though he wasn't the winner, to switch it up on everyone 

 

[Instinctive]

Looking around it seems the seasons ratings dropped 10% from the premiere to the final. Season 41 ratings were down almost 20% compared to season 40.

Not really fair to compare to season 40. Hows it vs 39 and 38 and stuff?

I don't know the answer, but 40 was pandemic fresh, all winners, tons of talented gameplay...one of the two or 3 best and most highly marketed seasons ever. 

 

[Mile High]

Not really fair to compare to season 40. Hows it vs 39 and 38 and stuff?

I don't know the answer, but 40 was pandemic fresh, all winners, tons of talented gameplay...one of the two or 3 best and most highly marketed seasons ever. 

In the 18 to 49 demographics. 

Season 38 1.46

Season 39 1.19

Season 40 1.48

Season 41 .93

 

[Instinctive]

In the 18 to 49 demographics. 

Season 38 1.46

Season 39 1.19

Season 40 1.48

Season 41 .93

The 39 to 41 gap seems more representative to me. Maybe I'm crazy and 38 wasn't an aberration but I have to guess it was.

Definitely not their best in a while. Especially with all the time to think about how to do some things better.

 

[Mile High]

The 39 to 41 gap seems more representative to me. Maybe I'm crazy and 38 wasn't an aberration but I have to guess it was.

Definitely not their best in a while. Especially with all the time to think about how to do some things better.

Maybe but Season 39 had the sexual harassment controversy and Rob and Sandra as mentors it wasn't popular either.

 

[El Floppo]

checking in to see if we've gotten to the bottom of the monty hall issue...

 

[Runkle]

Peridiam's YouTube review/summary of the season is pretty on point. 

tl;dr:

• Some twists were OK and made sense, such as forming cross-tribe alliances on Shipwheel Island. However, they did lean a little heavy on your basic logical tests jumbled together... Prisoner's Dilemma plus the envelope problem or whatever.
  
• Other twists were lame, such as the rewind-time hourglass version of the Trolley Problem... of course someone tied to the tracks is going to flip the switch away from themselves. 
  
• Ditto the Monty Hall problem, in that The Vote is paramount to the structure of Survivor and shouldn't be messed with. Your game lives or dies on the vote. The social game, putting together a loose alliance for just one tribal can be enough. Making it, basically, random chance? Is not Survivor. 
  
• Didn't like the complicated idols that were public but also lost your vote and also could be nullified by the Knowledge is Power twist. The game doesn't need to be so complicated you need four confessionals and a flowchart to understand what the rules are. Every scene of the third episode involved looking for papers, reading papers, or castaways explaining to us what the papers they found meant. After that, though, it got into a decent groove.
  
• Liked the Shan & Ricard dynamic in the pre-merge.
  
• On Danny's side on the merge hourglass controversy.
  
• Liana getting blindsided by Xander's fake idol was the starting point for when things got good.
  
• The episode where Shan gets voted out might be one of the best of the series.
  
• Xander had a crush on Liana the whole time? Guess there's a lot in the deleted/extra scenes. 
  
• Original subtitle for the season was "Dawn of a New Era" but they decided to just go with "41". 
  
• Had a good summary of Erika's arc of 'flying under the radar but making sure she's always in the mix and on the right side of every vote', says it's easier to see in a rewatch. However, didn't like how invisible Erika and Heather were considering they're half of the final 4.
  
• Overall, rocky start, good finish, and ranked in the top half of the seasons so far. Good season overall. 
  

 

[waiver wire]

Australian Survivor starts Jan 31 
3 shows a week and i think its way better then the US version 

 

[Runkle]

Apparently Shan has quit her church because God has told her to become a social media influencer and spread his word that way. Those who wish to donate money to her cause can find her fundraiser out there if they want to. She's asking for your monetary help. 

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Apparently Shan has quit her church because God has told her to become a social media influencer and spread his word that way. Those who wish to donate money to her cause can find her fundraiser out there if they want to. She's asking for your monetary help. 

I’ll leave that in gods hands  

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Apparently Shan has quit her church because God has told her to become a social media influencer and spread his word that way. Those who wish to donate money to her cause can find her fundraiser out there if they want to. She's asking for your monetary help. 

Not really our business, but I wonder how true the “quit” part is. I wouldn’t want her leading my congregation after saying on national TV how she manipulates her flock.

 

[jimmy b]

Apparently Shan has quit her church because God has told her to become a social media influencer and spread his word that way. Those who wish to donate money to her cause can find her fundraiser out there if they want to. She's asking for your monetary help. 

God told me not to donate.

 

[jhib]

Apparently Shan has quit her church because God has told her to become a social media influencer and spread his word that way. Those who wish to donate money to her cause can find her fundraiser out there if they want to. She's asking for your monetary help. 

After 7 years of serving in pastoral ministry, God is calling me to full-time independent ministry as an entrepreneur. The calling and gifting hasn’t changed but the packaging and wrapping-paper sure has. I’m excited to chase Kingdom with the voice God has given, one that is now unrestrained by doctrine and dogma. Christian apologetics via comedic content creation, online discipleship, and Kingdom-minded Christ centered messages is where this road begins. I still can’t believe God has chosen this time, during a world pandemic to move me in this direction, but I know that I can’t do it without your support! Your fiscal support will go towards basically helping me stay alive and be healthy as I aim to fulfill all that God has in store. Your support is greatly appreciated! 

Love Shan!

Love the first response I saw on reddit: "I wonder if she was humming that song while she drafted this message"

 

[El Floppo]

God told me not to donate.

Still waiting for god to tell me whether I should or shouldn't donate to her cause. I'll throw her some coin as soon as I get word.

 

[Runkle]

Not an expert, but, "using gained fame from CBS as a platform to beg for money in the name of religion" seems like the kind of thing frowned upon when deciding who to cast for an All-Star season.

 

[RG623]

Not an expert, but, "using gained fame from CBS as a platform to beg for money in the name of religion" seems like the kind of thing frowned upon when deciding who to cast for an All-Star season.

From your lips to God’s ears

 

[Mr. Mojo]

Apparently Shan has quit her church because God has told her to become a social media influencer and spread his word that way. Those who wish to donate money to her cause can find her fundraiser out there if they want to. She's asking for your monetary help. 

It seems more likely that her church kicked her out for being a lying, manipulating jerk. 

 

[Pip's Invitation]

It seems more likely that her church kicked her out for being a lying, manipulating jerk. 

On the reddit thread jhib mentioned, there was a post from someone who said they had been in ministry for 40 years saying that's probably exactly what happened. 

 

[mr. furley]

lol at "youth minister" which is code for "i babysit the toddlers while mom & dad are at mass and read them picture books"

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Australian Survivor starts Jan 31 
3 shows a week and i think its way better then the US version 

Can’t wait.  Sandra is in this season right?  Can’t imagine her lasting long they are pretty ruthless and will likely get her out early.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Can’t wait.  Sandra is in this season right?  Can’t imagine her lasting long they are pretty ruthless and will likely get her out early.

It’s a blood vs water season and she is playing with her daughter.

 

[offdee]

Australian Survivor starts Jan 31 
3 shows a week and i think its way better then the US version 

Is Youtube literally the only place to watch any seasons of Australian Survivor?   I searched Hulu, Netflix, HBOMax and Prime Video and not seeing it anywhere

 

[Mile High]

Is Youtube literally the only place to watch any seasons of Australian Survivor?   I searched Hulu, Netflix, HBOMax and Prime Video and not seeing it anywhere

There are 3 seasons on Paramount plus. Seasons 4,5,6 just off the top of my head so that could be wrong. 

 

[waiver wire]

Is Youtube literally the only place to watch any seasons of Australian Survivor?   I searched Hulu, Netflix, HBOMax and Prime Video and not seeing it anywhere

paramount has some season 

on facebook : the tribe has spoken 
it has AUS , NZ and SA survivor you can watch 
ive watched all the AUS and NZ and currently watching Immunity Island SA