Susan B Anthony Pardoned--Democrat mad (2 Viewers)

[dkp993]

Sho already posted this.   Like I said, you (and this time I really mean YOU) are not on your A game today

If you’re grading I’m just fine with that.  

 

[supermike80]

If you’re grading I’m just fine with that.  

Anyway..I think it's silly democrats came out against this pardon.  

 

[whoknew]

Trump will not get credit for doing anything good 

I mean my God.  Shutup democrats.  Just once.  

Know how in a fight, the one that retaliates us usually the one that gets in more trouble? Ever hear of that demmies?   Just move on.  You look utterly silly here.

As you both know, there's an entire thread, on this here website, full of anti-Trumpers giving Trump credit for the few good things he does.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Did Trump provide something explains the reason she was being pardoned?

I guess not.  If this ever becomes a serious thread I’d be interested in discussing this, the whole thing is very odd to me.

 

[dkp993]

Anyway..I think it's silly democrats came out against this pardon.  

I agree 

 

[Joe Summer]

I was going to come in to this thread to ask "Why are Democrats mad?" but then I see that the thread is nothing but Sho and his followers.

Have fun you guys.

 

[supermike80]

I was going to come in to this thread to ask "Why are Democrats mad?" but then I see that the thread is nothing but Sho and his followers.

Have fun you guys.

I posted a link.  

 

[Osaurus]

Has the value of her coins changed significantly as a result?

 

[moleculo]

Another silly post.  He cant do ANYTHING else?  Quit it.  Be better than that.  Posts like that one take away from intelligent debate.

lol

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Anyway..I think it's silly democrats came out against this pardon.  

Why do you think that people should be in favor of this pardon?

 

[supermike80]

Why do you think that people should be in favor of this pardon?

Sooooo not the conversation--this isn't about how I feel about it.  

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Sooooo not the conversation--this isn't about how I feel about it.  

If you think that the Democrats (or at least the one Democrat in your link) are obviously wrong for being critical of the pardon, it seems like you should be able to explain what an appropriate response would be and why.

 

[Mile High]

I posted a link.  

Got any more links of leading Democrats being upset?

 

[Juxtatarot]

Why do you think that people should be in favor of this pardon?

I'll take this side.  She was tried and convicted of something that she shouldn't have been.  A pardon is just, in my opinion.

(However, I must admit I knew little of this before a Google search a few minutes ago.)

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

I'll take this side.  She was tried and convicted of something that she shouldn't have been.  A pardon is just, in my opinion.

(However, I must admit I knew little of this before a Google search a few minutes ago.)

When you say "she shouldn't have been" what do you mean?  The law clearly prohibited her from voting and she knew it.  Why shouldn't she be held responsible?

 

[supermike80]

If you think that the Democrats (or at least the one Democrat in your link) are obviously wrong for being critical of the pardon, it seems like you should be able to explain what an appropriate response would be and why.

No it doesn't.  

 

[supermike80]

Got any more links of leading Democrats being upset?

I just posted the one, sorry

 

[Juxtatarot]

When you say "she shouldn't have been" what do you mean?  The law clearly prohibited her from voting and she knew it.  Why shouldn't she be held responsible?

We should have allowed women to vote from the get-go.  A pardon is appropriate because we had bad laws and she was breaking them to show us how wrong they were.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

We should have allowed women to vote from the get-go.  A pardon is appropriate because we had bad laws and she was breaking them to show us how wrong they were.

I have a 16 year old son.  I feel strongly that the law limiting voting to people 18 and over is discriminatory.  He's smarter and more knowledgeable than the vast majority of voters.  Should I encourage him to try to cast an illegal vote this year?

 

[supermike80]

I have a 16 year old son.  I feel strongly that the law limiting voting to people 18 and over is discriminatory.  He's smarter and more knowledgeable than the vast majority of voters.  Should I encourage him to try to cast an illegal vote this year?

Been consistently argued here that violating laws is A-Ok if it's for the greater good.  So yeah.   Do what you think is right..NOT What the law says.   

 

[sho nuff]

BULLSEYE!!

Get this man a cupie doll!!

He basically sends half of the enemy into the bushes on a snipe hunt while he focuses on the other half.
It's as if they suffer from some sort of syndrome of which President Trump takes advantage.

He's been doing it for a long time.....and they fall for it....every single time.

Except...there is no big reaction to this...the person reacting most was the guy who started the thread complaining about democrats.

They fall for it...maybe...he gets rightfully criticized for doing superficial things while failing at the other...you think this is really distracting people from something he is actually doing?  That it is some genius move?  Please...its petty attention grab to rile people up mainly because he likes riling people up.

 

[Juxtatarot]

I have a 16 year old son.  I feel strongly that the law limiting voting to people 18 and over is discriminatory.  He's smarter and more knowledgeable than the vast majority of voters.  Should I encourage him to try to cast an illegal vote this year?

 He might get in a lot of trouble.  Maybe try other avenues to affect change first.

 

[sho nuff]

No it doesn't.  

Why?  I mean...was the thread then just to bash a democrat for being against something you won't even say whether you are for or against it?  Whats the point of that?  Other than to...you know...get anonymous people on the internet to react to you?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I mean sure, she took a shot at Rutherford B. Hayes, but who can blame her?  That guy was a jerk.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

 He might get in a lot of trouble.  Maybe try other avenues to affect change first.

I've been posting about it here for years but it doesn't seem to have changed anything.  Feels like more drastic action is needed.

Anyway, it seems like the message sent by Trump's pardon is "Susan B. Anthony wasn't legally allowed to vote, but we're going pardon her for committing this crime because it turns out she actually did the right thing by voting."  Nobody else sees a huge conflict between this message and the other messages that Trump puts out there every day about illegal voting?   

 

[supermike80]

Why?  I mean...was the thread then just to bash a democrat for being against something you won't even say whether you are for or against it?  Whats the point of that?  Other than to...you know...get anonymous people on the internet to react to you?

The point of the thread was to point out how silly democrats can be.  The guy pardon's Susan B Anthony and the democrats still find something bad about it.  It's just the usual Trump Derangement Syndrome that shows up every day.  As I said in the OP, I find this silly and it makes me dislike the democratic party.   Oh and by the way the woman who came out didn't so so because she was against Susan's actions.   

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

The point of the thread was to point out how silly democrats can be.  

Right, you still haven't made the case for this.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I've been posting about it here for years but it doesn't seem to have changed anything.  Feels like more drastic action is needed.

Anyway, it seems like the message sent by Trump's pardon is "Susan B. Anthony wasn't legally allowed to vote, but we're going pardon her for committing this crime because it turns out she actually did the right thing by voting."  Nobody else sees a huge conflict between this message and the other messages that Trump puts out there every day about illegal voting?   

Yeah it's really weird that Trump's messaging isn't completely airtight and internally consistent.

 

[sho nuff]

The point of the thread was to point out how silly democrats can be.  The guy pardon's Susan B Anthony and the democrats still find something bad about it.  It's just the usual Trump Derangement Syndrome that shows up every day.  As I said in the OP, I find this silly and it makes me dislike the democratic party.   Oh and by the way the woman who came out didn't so so because she was against Susan's actions.   

So...by silly...that one democrat in the link....disagreed with a pardon.  And why is that silly?  And why do you keep saying democrats as if it was some big movement by major democrats to be against this?

Also...the don't do the syndrome thing...its just flat out ridiculous...especially again someone claiming they wanted civil debate.  This thread is proof positive you have absolutely no intention of doing such a thing.

 

[supermike80]

Right, you still haven't made the case for this.

In your opinion.

 

[Juxtatarot]

I've been posting about it here for years but it doesn't seem to have changed anything.  Feels like more drastic action is needed.

Anyway, it seems like the message sent by Trump's pardon is "Susan B. Anthony wasn't legally allowed to vote, but we're going pardon her for committing this crime because it turns out she actually did the right thing by voting."  Nobody else sees a huge conflict between this message and the other messages that Trump puts out there every day about illegal voting?   

Oh, yes, I do.  I just want to argue for pardoning her as a stand alone decision.  I think I'd be in favor of it if any president in my lifetime did the pardon.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Right, you still haven't made the case for this.

In your opinion.

Exactly, that's why it would be helpful if you tried to explain it.

 

[supermike80]

So...by silly...that one democrat in the link....disagreed with a pardon.  And why is that silly?  And why do you keep saying democrats as if it was some big movement by major democrats to be against this?

Also...the don't do the syndrome thing...its just flat out ridiculous...especially again someone claiming they wanted civil debate.  This thread is proof positive you have absolutely no intention of doing such a thing.

I said democrats because---wait for it---she is a democrat!!!  WOW!! What a concept.    Do NOT go all Sho on me and pull the "Well every democrat in the entire world wasn't quoted here so it can't be true."  Massively annoying when you do that.  

 

[supermike80]

Exactly, that's why it would be helpful if you tried to explain it.

Right.  Well I did my best earlier. If you can't get my feelings from that, I'm sorry.  I will strive to do better next time to satisfy you.

 

[Herb]

Eye on the ball, guys. This pardon is stupid theater and no one should really care one way or the other when it's simply a distraction from this.

 

[sho nuff]

I said democrats because---wait for it---she is a democrat!!!  WOW!! What a concept.    Do NOT go all Sho on me and pull the "Well every democrat in the entire world wasn't quoted here so it can't be true."  Massively annoying when you do that.  

Democrats is plural...making a big deal about “democrats” implies its more than one fringe person like this.     But you knew that.  So again the point of this was not about civil discussion...but to get people to react...that has shown over and over in your posts here.  In other words...just flat out trolling.

 

[Tool]

This thread is boring

 

[sho nuff]

Eye on the ball, guys. This pardon is stupid theater and no one should really care one way or the other when it's simply a distraction from this.

Most don’t seem to care...apparently its big news that a Lt governor didn't like it.

 

[dgreen]

When you say "she shouldn't have been" what do you mean?  The law clearly prohibited her from voting and she knew it.  Why shouldn't she be held responsible?

I don't know much about pardons. Is the usual scenario to pardon someone who didn't break the law or didn't know they were breaking the law? Or is it sometimes more about "they did their time and it's time to set them free"? Or something else?

How often are deceased people pardoned? What's the point of that? 

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

I don't know much about pardons. Is the usual scenario to pardon someone who didn't break the law or didn't know they were breaking the law? Or is it sometimes more about "they did their time and it's time to set them free"? Or something else?

I think these are all reasons that people have been pardoned before.  In past administrations there's usually a lot of documentation that describes the reasons why someone is being pardoned.

As for pardoning dead people, it's weird but not unprecedented or anything.  I guess it's mostly to make a political statement.  Which is why I'm so confused about what political statement Trump was trying to make here.

 

[Megla]

LOL at this thread

 

[Juxtatarot]

As for pardoning dead people, it's weird but not unprecedented or anything.  I guess it's mostly to make a political statement.  Which is why I'm so confused about what political statement Trump was trying to make here.

I'll bet Trump's main motivation is he thinks it might be viewed positively by suburban housewives and maybe even get him some votes.

 

[Joe Summer]

I've been posting about it here for years but it doesn't seem to have changed anything.  Feels like more drastic action is needed.

Anyway, it seems like the message sent by Trump's pardon is "Susan B. Anthony wasn't legally allowed to vote, but we're going pardon her for committing this crime because it turns out she actually did the right thing by voting."  Nobody else sees a huge conflict between this message and the other messages that Trump puts out there every day about illegal voting?   

I hadn't even considered that angle until reading your post.

It is kind of ironic that Trump is pardoning someone who committed voter fraud.

 

[cockroach]

Tired of all this trans rights stuff, man.

Why can't Susan B Susan?  Tryin ta B Anthony all the time.  B Susan, Susan.  

 

[Nugget]

This may be the best thing that Trump has accomplished. Congrats!

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

This may be the best thing that Trump has accomplished. Congrats!

You say that now but if Susan B. Anthony gets out and starts raping people, Trump might have a Willie Horton situation on his hands.

 

[gianmarco]

When marijuana becomes legal, are we going to pardon all those that broke the law but were right all along?

 

[Nugget]

I'll bet Trump's main motivation is he thinks it might be viewed positively by suburban housewives and maybe even get him some votes.

Mnuchin told Trump that a stronger dollar would be good for the economy.  

 

[supermike80]

Democrats is plural...making a big deal about “democrats” implies its more than one fringe person like this.     But you knew that.  So again the point of this was not about civil discussion...but to get people to react...that has shown over and over in your posts here.  In other words...just flat out trolling.

Dangit!! and I asked you to NOT do that, and you went full Sho anyway.   Man..I was hoping you would hold back,.

 

[Juxtatarot]

When marijuana becomes legal, are we going to pardon all those that broke the law but were right all along?

 Illinois’ governor granted more than 11,000 pardons for low-level marijuana convictions on Tuesday, describing the step as a first wave of thousands of such expungements anticipated under the state’s new marijuana legalization law.

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