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Sydney Rice going forward (1 Viewer)
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mystykoekaki
Footballguy
*Sidney.
the turnip
Footballguy
With NFL caliber QB under center = stud in the making.
With any current QB on the Vikings roster other than Brett Favre = hit or miss.
The guy has all the tools and is starting to "get it". If he has a real QB going forward, I think he's the real deal. Look for more red zone TD's and big games.
With any current QB on the Vikings roster other than Brett Favre = hit or miss.
The guy has all the tools and is starting to "get it". If he has a real QB going forward, I think he's the real deal. Look for more red zone TD's and big games.
Donsmith753
Footballguy
just picked him up in a trade, got him and jermichael finley for derrick ward. (don't ask me how!).I'm hoping for big things from him but not expecting too much. Vikings are still a run-first team.
Maroney=Sped
Footballguy
Favre has increased the Vikings WR's values, but how long do you expect Favre to stick around there? In redraft, you're on solid ground unless you think Favre will fade again late in the year, but I'm not buying into Vikings WR's (or Shiancoe for that matter) in dynasty unless they're at a bargain price.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Shiancoe was good last season...
Muahahaha
Footballguy
He is averaging 5.7 targets/game, to rank 41st among WRs in targets/game. That is his issue. The Vikings are averaging 31 attempts/game and that figure probably won't change much. So he is getting 20% of the targets and competing with Berrian, Shiancoe, Harvin, Taylor for targets. He is already at 17 yards/completion, so that won't go up much. Your hope is that Favre starts force-feeding him the ball, something he has never really done with any of his receivers. I think he finishes at about WR21, which is right where is he at in PPR.
harryhood
Footballguy
And should be a steal for where most people should have gotten him. Great bye week filler at this point. If Harvin misses any time it should only help his value a little.
Jackal King
Footballguy
The numbers reported on MFL show that Berrian / Rice / Harvin as getting a total of 101 targets to date.> Berrian - 38> Rice - 34> Harvin - 29I think that ratio will hover close to those splits going forward, but it would not surprise me to see Rice edge out Berrian for most targets to WR's.Where I think Rice has room to improve his stats, is TD's. He has two....but if memory serves...he could easily have 5. He had one reversed on replay...and missed two others by less than a yard.I really like Rice's trend, and I think of the three WR's...he's the one to own.
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the hairy scotsman
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I picked him up after week 3, and indeed, he's more than just a great bye week filler. From week 3-6, Rice is top 10 in my league. Second only to Moss in that time frame among my wrs.
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harryhood
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Indeed. Off the top of my head.Packers game he got hooked by Woodson when they threw him a slant. Pass Interference and rushing TD on the next play.Just missed one in the STL gameRavens game he got run down at the 1 on a 60-yard catch and runRavens game he was groped as a last line of defense when he beat his man - still made the reception to set up the winning scoreRavens game had his number called on a fade inside the 5, had his defender beat and boxed out, throw just got away from favre and sailed
Spike
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Literary Reference
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Start Rice against bad pass Ds (though none will be as bad as one trotting Frank Walker out in coverage) but if you already missed his best game of the year I wouldn't get too excited.
harryhood
Footballguy
According to the MFL rankings he doesnt face a top 10 pass defense until week 15.
thatguy
Footballguy
Yardage-wise that will almost certainly be his best game... But I could see him having high scoring games going forward. I could easily see him having a game where he goes 6 80 2, which would surpass his point total from last week.
Is now the time to sell on S. Rice? I'm very torn in my keep 3 league.
He's coming off two big yardage games but how much does Farve have left in the tank? Even if he makes it through the year will he be back in 2010?
Can he be a stud without Favre in Min?
His hands look vastly improved over the last couple of years. Reaching out with his hands instead of arm/chest catching. Sure Sage is no Favre but he'll still have to throw the ball as teams will load up on ADP.
He's coming off two big yardage games but how much does Farve have left in the tank? Even if he makes it through the year will he be back in 2010?
Can he be a stud without Favre in Min?
His hands look vastly improved over the last couple of years. Reaching out with his hands instead of arm/chest catching. Sure Sage is no Favre but he'll still have to throw the ball as teams will load up on ADP.
jurb26
Footballguy
Oddly enough, in one of my dynasty leagues I was at a critical juncture of the season this past week. I was sitting at 3-3 and in 4th place in my division. If I win week 7 I'm still right in the thick of the playoff chase. Loose and it looks pretty grim (largely because my week 8 byes make for a tough win the following week). I had started to look at my roster and try and plan what direction I wanted to go based off of a win (and still be in the hunt) and a loss (probably out of the hunt) and Rice was one of the guys I had targeted to trade if I lost. I think his value is about as high as it will go right now. I also feel that he will continue to put up great numbers for the remainder of this year. So, long story short if you are in contention I think you should hold Rice as he will likely help you continue to win games down the stretch. If you are out of it I'd deal him to someone who is in the hunt but needs a WR.
Oh and not that anyone really cares but I did win and am now holding on Rice.
Oh and not that anyone really cares but I did win and am now holding on Rice.
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smackdaddies
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Rice is the #3 wr on the team. #4 counting Shini.
With Favre pitching, he will do well - but of course Bret made Kendrick Taylor look good too
Packers paid more attention to Harvin than they did to Rice - one reason Sid gets the ball - he isn't the best receiver on the team. Same situation Jennings is in for the Pack. Def. work to shut down the best WR, leave open the others. When the other WR start getting attention, then the passing can swing back to the #1 WR.
With Favre pitching, he will do well - but of course Bret made Kendrick Taylor look good too
Packers paid more attention to Harvin than they did to Rice - one reason Sid gets the ball - he isn't the best receiver on the team. Same situation Jennings is in for the Pack. Def. work to shut down the best WR, leave open the others. When the other WR start getting attention, then the passing can swing back to the #1 WR.
jurb26
Footballguy
I don't know what Vikings team you are watching. Rice is the clear #1 on that team. It's not even close.
harryhood
Footballguy
As respectfully as I can say this, the above is a terrible assesment.
While I haven't watched much Viking football this season, Rice has been on my radar. I was able to pick him up last week as a bye week fill in and he made me happy. I am however deep at WR and am contemplating whether or not to use him or Derrick Mason as trade bait. Of the two, who is better to keep for rest of year in a re-draft league?
BigJim®
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Rice is a tough guy to value in dynasty. As others mentioned, having a QB like Favre certainly elevates his value, but will Favre be there beyond 2009? If you doubt the Vikes succession plan, now is a great time to trade Rice away and reap value. If you believe the Vikes will do a better job securing a franchise QB in the future, he's a definite hold. This stymies me also as a Vike fan and Rice owner. I've seen nothing to show that Childress has moved beyond bringing in guys like Brad Johnson, Frerotte or having unabashed loyalty to projects he thinks he can develop (i.e. Tarvaris Jackson). Favre really fell into his lap, and historically Childress has seemed willing to rely on the run game and use a non-difference making QB to orchestrate the offense. Obviously Rice has serious talent, so it would be illogical not to use a QB who can extend the field and open the game up for AP. I have Rice as a tentative hold, hoping for the best.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
Two words...
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mozzy84
Footballguy
have you watched any games this year?Wow...there are some dumb things typed on this board...this one is right near the top.
Whiplash Inc.
Footballguy
Drafted him as a rookie and dropped him after week 2 of this season... 
I bet that smackdaddies has about 50 PMs with guys inviting him into their leagues.
encaitar
Footballguy
Yeah, all kinds of WR #3s get 16 targets in a week.
Muahahaha
Footballguy
Have to say I'm regretting not grabbing him and keeping him. Teams are really focusing on shutting down ADP. Favre threw #######g 51 times against Pittsburgh. And he is clearly locking in on Rice - who is making some absolutely amazing catches. As a Vikings fan, I would say Rice is far and away our best receiver since Moss. He is clearly the real deal. Favre looks his way on every critical passing play and I am really glad he is - he is hauling in EVERYTHING.
The risk to Rice remains this: (1) It is a complete failure for our team to be throwing 51 times. We will never willingly be a pass-first team. (2) Berrian got a hammy, somewhat forcing Favre to lock in on Rice. Berrian healthy = fewer targets for Rice. But Berrian could have hammy issues all season long. Harvin also appears to get dinged up every time a pass comes his way.
My gut tells me that Rice is a lock to get 10+ targets/game here on out. The lack of targets was the worry, but that appears to be something we can throw out the window now.
The risk to Rice remains this: (1) It is a complete failure for our team to be throwing 51 times. We will never willingly be a pass-first team. (2) Berrian got a hammy, somewhat forcing Favre to lock in on Rice. Berrian healthy = fewer targets for Rice. But Berrian could have hammy issues all season long. Harvin also appears to get dinged up every time a pass comes his way.
My gut tells me that Rice is a lock to get 10+ targets/game here on out. The lack of targets was the worry, but that appears to be something we can throw out the window now.
Kuz
Footballguy
Couldn't of stated it any better..
UnknownCoach
Footballguy
Favre likes big receivers and Rice is really starting to really click with Favre. Rice is a solid fantasy receiver right now and it should continue.
Monty Burns
Footballguy
Kendrick Taylor....
Why people continue to insist that Berrian doesn't suck is beyond me. Harvin is an inexperience, but talented rookie that can't stay healthy.
Rice is going to be a great #3 WR, borderline #2 for the rest of the year. I'm not in a dynasty league, but 99% sure I will be keeping him next year for a 15th round pick in a three keeper league.
Rice is going to be a great #3 WR, borderline #2 for the rest of the year. I'm not in a dynasty league, but 99% sure I will be keeping him next year for a 15th round pick in a three keeper league.
mozzy84
Footballguy
If Favre is playing he is a rock solid #2 imo....
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
I think targets is the key here. I haven't gone back and looked, but with Favre being new to Minny, we can expect that the targets will fluctuate and change as the WR's and Favre grow more accustomed to each other and learn each others' strengths, weaknesses and tendencies.If the recent trend is in favor of Rice, and my gut is that it is, I think that bodes well for his second half of this season as I would guess that means he and Favre of getting in synch and Favre is starting to trust him to go get the balls that Favre loves to force in to people.You can't underestimate how much Favre would still like to be the gunslinger. Even if he isn't allowed free reign with the number of pass plays to run, Favre is going to do the most he can with each one. And that means he'll take a shot and gamble on a WR he trusts to make a play.Couldn't of stated it any better..
Sunday Devil
Footballguy
I had my radar on Sidney all year and didnt pull the trigger, now I feel like a complete waste!!! 
Ditka is God
Footballguy
Keep in mind he's only 23 and will likely get even better over the coming years. The kid is the real deal.
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From Pro Football WeeklyWhispers....
People forget how young Vikings WR Sidney Rice is, so it should be no surprise that he has had a breakout season, especially as QB Brett Favre has shown great confidence in him on deep routes. Rice, who just turned 23 despite being in his third pro season, already has a career high in receiving yards mainly because he has not only worked harder at film-room study and in the weight room, but he also is learning how better to be a pro. Our sources say the difference between Rice now and his first two seasons is like night and day.
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From Pro Football WeeklyWhispers....
People forget how young Vikings WR Sidney Rice is, so it should be no surprise that he has had a breakout season, especially as QB Brett Favre has shown great confidence in him on deep routes. Rice, who just turned 23 despite being in his third pro season, already has a career high in receiving yards mainly because he has not only worked harder at film-room study and in the weight room, but he also is learning how better to be a pro. Our sources say the difference between Rice now and his first two seasons is like night and day.
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jurb26
Footballguy
Unless it's an obvious passing down, I just don't see any team taking their focus off of Peterson and the running game.
northern exposure
Footballguy
Close personal friend of Visanthe's are you? I haven't heard that nickname before
rotorooter
Footballguy
I really like his size/speed combo 6'4 with great leaping ability. Kind of reminds me of a young Randy moss--maybe it's the purple jersey. I agree that Favre is helping him in this breakout but I think he is a potential #1 WR. That said--Sold high on Rice. Combined him with Pierre Thomas for under achieving m. Turner.I just think there are too many weapons on this team. Berrian has a hamstring and Harvin a shoulder so Rice carried the load the past few weeks. I suggest selling in one year leagues of an underachieving WR --jennings, boldin, housh?
thatguy
Footballguy
I co-own a team in a 12 team 2-player keeper league with a guy who's hilarious and awesome but a little loopy - a big part of my job as co-owner is keeping him from making stupid moves. Anyway, we have Brees and Palmer and he's been saying all season we should trade Brees. I agree it's not a bad idea if we can get a RB1 or a tier 1 WR in return. So, I get an email from him yesterday, "I just offered Brees for Sidney Rice, I hope he accepts" - luckily I was able to log in and cancel the trade before the other owner saw it, as he no doubt would have been all over it. I am telling you all this to show that there are some owners out there willing to give up a lot for Sidney Rice right now, so it probably isn't the worst idea to at least shop him and entertain offers.
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The Man With No Name
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Had a decent game going, but got no targets in the second half 
