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T. Jones Stats Tonight - Error in Play by Play (1 Viewer)
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my man otis
Footballguy
Here is the section of the play by play for those who are Tivo-ing...
Third quarter
1-10-ARI31 (10:12) T.Jones left tackle to ARZ 35 for -4 yards (D.Dockett).
2-14-ARI35 (9:33) R.Grossman pass incomplete short left to M.Muhammad.
3-14-ARI35 (9:30) R.Grossman pass short right to R.Davis pushed ob at ARZ 20 for 15 yards (G.Hayes) [A.Schable].
Third quarter
1-10-ARI31 (10:12) T.Jones left tackle to ARZ 35 for -4 yards (D.Dockett).
2-14-ARI35 (9:33) R.Grossman pass incomplete short left to M.Muhammad.
3-14-ARI35 (9:30) R.Grossman pass short right to R.Davis pushed ob at ARZ 20 for 15 yards (G.Hayes) [A.Schable].
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Footballguy
Call the NFL Commish on his cell phone. Joe B. has his number.
No. I am watching the game. He ran for no gain to the 31. It is as plain as day on the screen...
Your not crazy, I saw it too. It may have effected the 2 plays after it too. I suspect it will be corrected in a day or two when they review the game.
It should show up here Stat Changes if its not corrected by the end of the game.
or here
Stat Changes
It should show up here Stat Changes if its not corrected by the end of the game.
or here
Stat Changes
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Great. Thanks...
The Jerk
Footballguy
I can confirm that this error occurred. I just happened to be watching the broadcast and looking on at nfl.com at the same time. I'm not sure what you do about it except to look out for a correction at some point in the future.
As a Commish, my policy is that I don't let replays alone demonstrate errors and corrections, simply because I cannot view every play in every game so there is an element of inconsistency involved. However, I accept stat corrections when from the nfl or Elias Sports Bureau or a league hosting site.
Good luck.
As a Commish, my policy is that I don't let replays alone demonstrate errors and corrections, simply because I cannot view every play in every game so there is an element of inconsistency involved. However, I accept stat corrections when from the nfl or Elias Sports Bureau or a league hosting site.
Good luck.
Patriotsfatboy1
Footballguy
I had a similar play last year with a Dallas game. They were off by 5 yards on play and it affected me making the playoffs. I went online to the Dallas Morning News and wrote an e-mail to Tim Cowlishaw and asked him to contact the NFL for me. He was real nice about it and even went so far as to say that he would write a story about my plight.
Well wouldn't you know it, they fixed the play in the scoring and all was right with the world. I ended up making the playoffs and winning the championship. With that money, I donated it to a local children's hospital where I received a special commendation and a trip to the White House. Really an amazing story.
alsonotreally
Well wouldn't you know it, they fixed the play in the scoring and all was right with the world. I ended up making the playoffs and winning the championship. With that money, I donated it to a local children's hospital where I received a special commendation and a trip to the White House. Really an amazing story.
alsonotreally
I hope they fix this tongiht so I don't have to go through all of the junk to get it corrected on our league site...
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
So, he should have 43 yards rushing?
Yes. That is correct.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Wow. I have Jones and lost 98.70 - 98.38. This would give me a win by 0.08 instead of a loss.
And if the NFL makes the change but decides he lost one yard? A 98.70 - 98.68 loss.
And if the NFL makes the change but decides he lost one yard? A 98.70 - 98.68 loss.
I am pretty sure he had no gain. The TV was showing second and 10 after that carry.Either way, your game is CRAZY close...Good luck. We have to get this fixed!!Wow. I have Jones and lost 98.70 - 98.38. This would give me a win by 0.08 instead of a loss.And if the NFL makes the change but decides he lost one yard? A 98.70 - 98.68 loss.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Thanks for raising the issue. I posted it on my league message board with a link to this thread so there would be no one shocked if this actually happens. I know if I were my opponent and I saw my win turn into a loss two days later, I'd want an explanation. Hopefully the post will prepare him for the possibility should this change be made.I am pretty sure he had no gain. The TV was showing second and 10 after that carry.Either way, your game is CRAZY close...Good luck. We have to get this fixed!!Wow. I have Jones and lost 98.70 - 98.38. This would give me a win by 0.08 instead of a loss.And if the NFL makes the change but decides he lost one yard? A 98.70 - 98.68 loss.
i did the exact same thing!Thanks for raising the issue. I posted it on my league message board with a link to this thread so there would be no one shocked if this actually happens. I know if I were my opponent and I saw my win turn into a loss two days later, I'd want an explanation. Hopefully the post will prepare him for the possibility should this change be made.I am pretty sure he had no gain. The TV was showing second and 10 after that carry.Either way, your game is CRAZY close...Good luck. We have to get this fixed!!Wow. I have Jones and lost 98.70 - 98.38. This would give me a win by 0.08 instead of a loss.And if the NFL makes the change but decides he lost one yard? A 98.70 - 98.68 loss.
Traders2001
Footballguy
Who cares .
I sent Gridiron Assassin a PM - maybe he has some ideas to help out some FBGs who own T. Jones...I care.I am losing 90.12 - 90.04I have Thomas Jones. I sure hope it corrects soon.
email stats inc when(gametime IE 11:47 left in the 4th) where(on the 40yard line) etc. They'll take a little while to get back to ya but they'll give you a sound answer. I'd expect a day on email coming back to ya. Elias changing anything does nothing for FF, the stats aren't used by FF sites. Stats INC is not the NFL's stat provider but they do provide stats for most FF sites.
http://www.stats.com/about/index.asp?page=contact
You can also try calling. I've called a dozen times. A few I get someone and we chat, the other 9 I get someone that answers phones and was no help. Email is definitely a way to get a better answer
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
Needed 5 points for a win last night. Got 4 from TJ. Those yards would give me a win. Thanks for the heads up.
No problem. I'm in the same boat!
my man otis
Footballguy
Not to dampen the mood but as Commish we've got a rule in place to not allow for things like you guys are doing. The stats in the site are the stats that we use, period.
Don't expect the guy you're playing or the rest of the league to simply award you a win. I would suggest getting up rules for this in the future.
BTW, the nfl.com stats won't change.
EDIT - I was told by Sportsline that Elias is their data provider, not Stats. It was last year FWIW.
Don't expect the guy you're playing or the rest of the league to simply award you a win. I would suggest getting up rules for this in the future.
BTW, the nfl.com stats won't change.
EDIT - I was told by Sportsline that Elias is their data provider, not Stats. It was last year FWIW.
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Thanks. I found the information below on the CBS site. We have allowed corrections in the past, they just need to be official corrections, as long as it is brought up before the next week's games, even if it isn't resolved until later...
Question
I believe the Official Stats are incorrect. Can this be corrected?
Answer
The statistics presented within your fantasy league the day after the games are directly from the Official Statistics provider of the NFL. After the games have concluded, the games are reviewed repeatedly on video tape to correct any statistical discrepancy input during the game. The unofficial Live Scoring statistics displayed within the GameCenter during the ballgames are keyed in as rapidly as possible at the stadiums and are prone to occasional errors. Most, if not all Sports web-sites simply present an initial stat feed on their statistics pages, and are not overly concerned with updating the page unless a gross error is identified. The statistics within our fantasy products are accurate per the Official Statistics provider of the NFL.
- Please note that the live stats you see during games are NOT official. We receive official game stats each night/early morning after games are played and are updated according to the league’s certified box scores.
- Please do not e-mail if a live scoring error should occur. Wait to see if it is correct the next day and usually, it will be. Occasionally, there are small discrepancies in the live presentation that are taken care of rapidly, independent of official statistical scoring. If you believe the stat in question is still wrong the following morning (10am), this is the time to submit your inquiry.
- We do not change these official stats unless the NFL Official Stat, although we will include any late changes the NFL sends us by end-of-day Tuesday. If you play in a Football Commissioner league, the commissioner can manually change any scores in the league by using the ADJUST SCORING feature at the bottom of the SCOREBOARD page.
Question
I believe the Official Stats are incorrect. Can this be corrected?
Answer
The statistics presented within your fantasy league the day after the games are directly from the Official Statistics provider of the NFL. After the games have concluded, the games are reviewed repeatedly on video tape to correct any statistical discrepancy input during the game. The unofficial Live Scoring statistics displayed within the GameCenter during the ballgames are keyed in as rapidly as possible at the stadiums and are prone to occasional errors. Most, if not all Sports web-sites simply present an initial stat feed on their statistics pages, and are not overly concerned with updating the page unless a gross error is identified. The statistics within our fantasy products are accurate per the Official Statistics provider of the NFL.
- Please note that the live stats you see during games are NOT official. We receive official game stats each night/early morning after games are played and are updated according to the league’s certified box scores.
- Please do not e-mail if a live scoring error should occur. Wait to see if it is correct the next day and usually, it will be. Occasionally, there are small discrepancies in the live presentation that are taken care of rapidly, independent of official statistical scoring. If you believe the stat in question is still wrong the following morning (10am), this is the time to submit your inquiry.
- We do not change these official stats unless the NFL Official Stat, although we will include any late changes the NFL sends us by end-of-day Tuesday. If you play in a Football Commissioner league, the commissioner can manually change any scores in the league by using the ADJUST SCORING feature at the bottom of the SCOREBOARD page.
didn't know this, very interesting. Thanks!
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
Thanks for the advice. I completely agree and have had the rule in place for years now. If MFL changes it's official scoring before the kickoff of the following week then the stats are changed.my man otis said:
I just received the following email from STATS, Inc. (though this may not be relevant if Elias is the official stat provider).
"We're sorry Brian but that play is still being ruled as a -4 yard rush and his stats are
11 carries for 39 yards."
I just responded with following:
"Really? He was definitely tackled at the line of scrimmage (31) for no gain so I don't think it is controversial. Is this not something that would be changed when people review the game on film??
Thanks again for your help."
I'll keep the thread updated if I hear anything else...
Also, since the game is being replayed on the NFL Network on Thursday, maybe there will be a chance for everyone to see the play in question.
At this point, I'm beginning to wonder if it will be corrected officially...
"We're sorry Brian but that play is still being ruled as a -4 yard rush and his stats are
11 carries for 39 yards."
I just responded with following:
"Really? He was definitely tackled at the line of scrimmage (31) for no gain so I don't think it is controversial. Is this not something that would be changed when people review the game on film??
Thanks again for your help."
I'll keep the thread updated if I hear anything else...
Also, since the game is being replayed on the NFL Network on Thursday, maybe there will be a chance for everyone to see the play in question.
At this point, I'm beginning to wonder if it will be corrected officially...
my man otis
Footballguy
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Couch Potato
Footballguy
Well this latest update sucks. If you're certain you're right after TIVO rewinds, and they still don't make any changes, all it says is the so-called reviews they do are phoney.
Thanks for the concern. All is well on the home front.
The latest email from Stats is:"If the NFL reviews the film and makes the change we'll match our data, but in the end it's their call."We'll see....
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Ah. Sweet justice. I just returned from an out of town trip and saw that Sportsline has made the change!!Case closed!
Interesting...didn't change on MFL. Didn't cause me to lose or anything but I find it interesting CBS changed it but not MFL.Ah. Sweet justice. I just returned from an out of town trip and saw that Sportsline has made the change!!Case closed!
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
Anyone know how to get MFL to update? I sent an inquiry through the site but need the change to be made by tomorrow before gametime. Any suggestions?
Edited to add: I contacted MFL and the scoring change is now available for week 6.
Edited to add: I contacted MFL and the scoring change is now available for week 6.
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Couch Potato
Footballguy
Looks like the official stat change has been made by Elias (Thursday from the looks of the CBS and ESPN changes), but MFL didn't notice it until tonight (post below is at 8:18 PM ET) and they are leaving it to commissioners to make the cange themselves.
From the Myfantasyleague support board:
http://sidelineleagues.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=17560
Week #6 Bears-Cardinals game
The Elias Sports Bureau made an official stats change after reviewing film of the Bears-Cardinals game. The following stats have changed as a result:
• Thomas Jones: from 39 to 43 rushing yards.
• Rex Grossman: from 148 to 144 passing yards.
• Rashied Davis: from 31 to 27 receiving yards.
If you want to apply these stat changes to your league on myfantasyleague.com, you can use the For Commissioners > Statistic Changes menu item.
If you want to apply these stat changes to your league in FFLM, you can go back to Week #1 and then use the "Update" button to update your stats.
From the Myfantasyleague support board:
http://sidelineleagues.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=17560
Week #6 Bears-Cardinals game
The Elias Sports Bureau made an official stats change after reviewing film of the Bears-Cardinals game. The following stats have changed as a result:
• Thomas Jones: from 39 to 43 rushing yards.
• Rex Grossman: from 148 to 144 passing yards.
• Rashied Davis: from 31 to 27 receiving yards.
If you want to apply these stat changes to your league on myfantasyleague.com, you can use the For Commissioners > Statistic Changes menu item.
If you want to apply these stat changes to your league in FFLM, you can go back to Week #1 and then use the "Update" button to update your stats.
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