Talkin' bout knowin the rules.... (1 Viewer)

[Sunday@1]

Last week McNabb took alot of heat for not knowing the OT rules. He was criticized by media, fans and other players. It also came out that quite a few players were unsure of the OT themselves.

Yesterday, during the Cards/Giants game the rarely tried "free kick" came about. I remembered the rule because I saw it once in a pre-season game. In case you missed it - this allows a team to try a FG from almost a kickoff formation. There isn't anyone blocking the kick but it also takes the place of your "set of downs". Of course, this would only be attempted when you had so little time left that you couldn't even move forward to get closer. This really comes down to end of half or game.

Question is and be honest...

If you laughed at McNabb did you know the free kick rule?

Please do not give me "they make millions to know the rules" etc.....

 

[Chaka]

Last week McNabb took alot of heat for not knowing the OT rules. He was criticized by media, fans and other players. It also came out that quite a few players were unsure of the OT themselves.Yesterday, during the Cards/Giants game the rarely tried "free kick" came about. I remembered the rule because I saw it once in a pre-season game. In case you missed it - this allows a team to try a FG from almost a kickoff formation. There isn't anyone blocking the kick but it also takes the place of your "set of downs". Of course, this would only be attempted when you had so little time left that you couldn't even move forward to get closer. This really comes down to end of half or game.Question is and be honest... If you laughed at McNabb did you know the free kick rule?Please do not give me "they make millions to know the rules" etc.....

I had heard of that rule before but I probably would not have thought of it myself. Once I saw what they were doing I realized what was going on.However this isn't even remotely close to the McNabb overtime issue. This was the first free kick attempted since something like 1968 whereas McNabb has been in 12 overtime games in his NFL career.Having your field general not know about a rule that is obvious to even casual NFL fans is absolutely inexcusable.

 

[joffer]

If you laughed at McNabb did you know the free kick rule?

yes

 

[fromunda cheesehead]

Last week McNabb took alot of heat for not knowing the OT rules. He was criticized by media, fans and other players. It also came out that quite a few players were unsure of the OT themselves.Yesterday, during the Cards/Giants game the rarely tried "free kick" came about. I remembered the rule because I saw it once in a pre-season game. In case you missed it - this allows a team to try a FG from almost a kickoff formation. There isn't anyone blocking the kick but it also takes the place of your "set of downs". Of course, this would only be attempted when you had so little time left that you couldn't even move forward to get closer. This really comes down to end of half or game.Question is and be honest... If you laughed at McNabb did you know the free kick rule?Please do not give me "they make millions to know the rules" etc.....

I've heard of the rule. But dont know, how far does the attempt have to be to get this free kick? Cause you see kicks at the end of halfs and games all the time but they're regular fg attempts with a defensive rush.

 

[3C's]

I didn't laugh at McNabb but I knew the free kick rule.

 

[-baller]

Last week McNabb took alot of heat for not knowing the OT rules. He was criticized by media, fans and other players. It also came out that quite a few players were unsure of the OT themselves.Yesterday, during the Cards/Giants game the rarely tried "free kick" came about. I remembered the rule because I saw it once in a pre-season game. In case you missed it - this allows a team to try a FG from almost a kickoff formation. There isn't anyone blocking the kick but it also takes the place of your "set of downs". Of course, this would only be attempted when you had so little time left that you couldn't even move forward to get closer. This really comes down to end of half or game.Question is and be honest... If you laughed at McNabb did you know the free kick rule?Please do not give me "they make millions to know the rules" etc.....

one thing has absolutely zero to do w/the other, so making the comparison is a nonsensical stretch.to answer your question, I'm not an nfl veteren qb, an nfl veteran kicker, or an nfl veteran anything, but I have heard of the free kick, while not knowing the details of the rule.if you want to continue on w/your random bs comparisons, maybe next thread you can ask if anyone has ever heard of the 4th quarter, or a particular subspecies of south american parrot.mcnabb is an idiot.

 

[Buffaloes]

Last week McNabb took alot of heat for not knowing the OT rules. He was criticized by media, fans and other players. It also came out that quite a few players were unsure of the OT themselves.Yesterday, during the Cards/Giants game the rarely tried "free kick" came about. I remembered the rule because I saw it once in a pre-season game. In case you missed it - this allows a team to try a FG from almost a kickoff formation. There isn't anyone blocking the kick but it also takes the place of your "set of downs". Of course, this would only be attempted when you had so little time left that you couldn't even move forward to get closer. This really comes down to end of half or game.Question is and be honest... If you laughed at McNabb did you know the free kick rule?Please do not give me "they make millions to know the rules" etc.....

one thing has absolutely zero to do w/the other, so making the comparison is a nonsensical stretch.to answer your question, I'm not an nfl veteren qb, an nfl veteran kicker, or an nfl veteran anything, but I have heard of the free kick, while not knowing the details of the rule.if you want to continue on w/your random bs comparisons, maybe next thread you can ask if anyone has ever heard of the 4th quarter, or a particular subspecies of south american parrot.

Well played.

 

[Ozymandias]

Last week McNabb took alot of heat for not knowing the OT rules. He was criticized by media, fans and other players. It also came out that quite a few players were unsure of the OT themselves.

Yesterday, during the Cards/Giants game the rarely tried "free kick" came about. I remembered the rule because I saw it once in a pre-season game. In case you missed it - this allows a team to try a FG from almost a kickoff formation. There isn't anyone blocking the kick but it also takes the place of your "set of downs". Of course, this would only be attempted when you had so little time left that you couldn't even move forward to get closer. This really comes down to end of half or game.

Question is and be honest...

If you laughed at McNabb did you know the free kick rule?

Please do not give me "they make millions to know the rules" etc.....

one thing has absolutely zero to do w/the other, so making the comparison is a nonsensical stretch.to answer your question, I'm not an nfl veteren qb, an nfl veteran kicker, or an nfl veteran anything, but I have heard of the free kick, while not knowing the details of the rule.

if you want to continue on w/your random bs comparisons, maybe next thread you can ask if anyone has ever heard of the 4th quarter, or a particular subspecies of south american parrot.

mcnabb is an idiot.

I don't know about South American parrots, but I am well aware of Norwegian Blues. They are usually pinin' for the fjords.

 

[DeCleater]

Last week McNabb took alot of heat for not knowing the OT rules. He was criticized by media, fans and other players. It also came out that quite a few players were unsure of the OT themselves.Yesterday, during the Cards/Giants game the rarely tried "free kick" came about. I remembered the rule because I saw it once in a pre-season game. In case you missed it - this allows a team to try a FG from almost a kickoff formation. There isn't anyone blocking the kick but it also takes the place of your "set of downs". Of course, this would only be attempted when you had so little time left that you couldn't even move forward to get closer. This really comes down to end of half or game.Question is and be honest... If you laughed at McNabb did you know the free kick rule?Please do not give me "they make millions to know the rules" etc.....

Yes, I know of the rule. And you can only attempt a free kick if you fair catch a punt or kickoff. McNabb makes millions and he doesn't know the rules.

 

[TommyGilmore]

Of course, this would only be attempted when you had so little time left that you couldn't even move forward to get closer. This really comes down to end of half or game.

Not necessarily. A team with a strong-legged FG kicker but no offense (think: Oakland) could make good use of this rule and go for the FG every time they caught a kick within 70 yards of the goalposts.Also, if a team is down by 10 points toward the end of the 4th quarter, it makes sense to take the free kick right away to conserve time.

 

[Sunday@1]

Last week McNabb took alot of heat for not knowing the OT rules. He was criticized by media, fans and other players. It also came out that quite a few players were unsure of the OT themselves.Yesterday, during the Cards/Giants game the rarely tried "free kick" came about. I remembered the rule because I saw it once in a pre-season game. In case you missed it - this allows a team to try a FG from almost a kickoff formation. There isn't anyone blocking the kick but it also takes the place of your "set of downs". Of course, this would only be attempted when you had so little time left that you couldn't even move forward to get closer. This really comes down to end of half or game.Question is and be honest... If you laughed at McNabb did you know the free kick rule?Please do not give me "they make millions to know the rules" etc.....

one thing has absolutely zero to do w/the other, so making the comparison is a nonsensical stretch.to answer your question, I'm not an nfl veteren qb, an nfl veteran kicker, or an nfl veteran anything, but I have heard of the free kick, while not knowing the details of the rule.if you want to continue on w/your random bs comparisons, maybe next thread you can ask if anyone has ever heard of the 4th quarter, or a particular subspecies of south american parrot.mcnabb is an idiot.

McNabb should have known the rule but didn't. It doesn't make him an idiot just like it wouldn't make you an idiot if there was something that you didn't know about your job. I am only saying that players do not know all of the rules. How many times have you seen a kick returner (in many cases that is his sole job) not know if he can return a ball that bounces in and around the goal line. There is always confusion once it goes from field of play and back into the end zone. Again, just a another example of players not knowing all of rules so I assume they must be idiotic as well?

 

[TommyGilmore]

Yes, I know of the rule. And you can only attempt a free kick if you fair catch a punt or kickoff. McNabb makes millions and he doesn't know the rules.

Incorrect.

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

Last week McNabb took alot of heat for not knowing the OT rules. He was criticized by media, fans and other players. It also came out that quite a few players were unsure of the OT themselves.Yesterday, during the Cards/Giants game the rarely tried "free kick" came about. I remembered the rule because I saw it once in a pre-season game. In case you missed it - this allows a team to try a FG from almost a kickoff formation. There isn't anyone blocking the kick but it also takes the place of your "set of downs". Of course, this would only be attempted when you had so little time left that you couldn't even move forward to get closer. This really comes down to end of half or game.Question is and be honest... If you laughed at McNabb did you know the free kick rule?Please do not give me "they make millions to know the rules" etc.....

one thing has absolutely zero to do w/the other, so making the comparison is a nonsensical stretch.to answer your question, I'm not an nfl veteren qb, an nfl veteran kicker, or an nfl veteran anything, but I have heard of the free kick, while not knowing the details of the rule.if you want to continue on w/your random bs comparisons, maybe next thread you can ask if anyone has ever heard of the 4th quarter, or a particular subspecies of south american parrot.mcnabb is an idiot.

McNabb should have known the rule but didn't. It doesn't make him an idiot just like it wouldn't make you an idiot if there was something that you didn't know about your job. I am only saying that players do not know all of the rules. How many times have you seen a kick returner (in many cases that is his sole job) not know if he can return a ball that bounces in and around the goal line. There is always confusion once it goes from field of play and back into the end zone. Again, just a another example of players not knowing all of rules so I assume they must be idiotic as well?

Again, you're comparing a rarely used, obscure rule found in the small print of the NFL rulebook to the "common sense" rule of overtime. There's not one of my friends that did not know an NFL regular season game could end in a tie, just like all of my friends know that a touchdown is worth 6 points. A veteran QB who is not aware that a game could end in a tie is beyond moronic. That's a major rule, and that should go without saying.It has nothing to do with knowing each and every minute detail of every single minor NFL rule.

 

[-baller]

McNabb should have known the rule but didn't. It doesn't make him an idiot just like it wouldn't make you an idiot if there was something that you didn't know about your job.

if I had worked as a fireman for 10 years and had never heard of a fire hydrant, that would make me an idiot.

 

[PatrickT]

The supposition by the OP is a severe stretch. Overtimes happen several times a year, and you better know what's going on there. A free kick is a pretty obscure part of the game and one that a coaching staff should know and call in, not something that should be on a player's mind at a given point in time.

McNabb didn't know the rule, he should have, and he looked like a fool. Move on.

 

[vnel8tn]

Yes, I know of the rule. And you can only attempt a free kick if you fair catch a punt or kickoff. McNabb makes millions and he doesn't know the rules.

Incorrect.

Could you point out what is not correct? TIA

 

[Chaka]

Last week McNabb took alot of heat for not knowing the OT rules. He was criticized by media, fans and other players. It also came out that quite a few players were unsure of the OT themselves.Yesterday, during the Cards/Giants game the rarely tried "free kick" came about. I remembered the rule because I saw it once in a pre-season game. In case you missed it - this allows a team to try a FG from almost a kickoff formation. There isn't anyone blocking the kick but it also takes the place of your "set of downs". Of course, this would only be attempted when you had so little time left that you couldn't even move forward to get closer. This really comes down to end of half or game.Question is and be honest... If you laughed at McNabb did you know the free kick rule?Please do not give me "they make millions to know the rules" etc.....

one thing has absolutely zero to do w/the other, so making the comparison is a nonsensical stretch.to answer your question, I'm not an nfl veteren qb, an nfl veteran kicker, or an nfl veteran anything, but I have heard of the free kick, while not knowing the details of the rule.if you want to continue on w/your random bs comparisons, maybe next thread you can ask if anyone has ever heard of the 4th quarter, or a particular subspecies of south american parrot.mcnabb is an idiot.

McNabb should have known the rule but didn't. It doesn't make him an idiot just like it wouldn't make you an idiot if there was something that you didn't know about your job. I am only saying that players do not know all of the rules. How many times have you seen a kick returner (in many cases that is his sole job) not know if he can return a ball that bounces in and around the goal line. There is always confusion once it goes from field of play and back into the end zone. Again, just a another example of players not knowing all of rules so I assume they must be idiotic as well?

If a kick returner doesn't know that kickoffs are live balls then he won't be a kick returner for very long.

 

[TommyGilmore]

Yes, I know of the rule. And you can only attempt a free kick if you fair catch a punt or kickoff. McNabb makes millions and he doesn't know the rules.

Incorrect.

Could you point out what is not correct? TIA

The part in bold. Or more specifically, the last 3 words of the part in bold.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

The supposition by the OP is a severe stretch. Overtimes happen several times a year, and you better know what's going on there.

Not to mention the ref goes over the basics at the coin flip, going into OT.

 

[Buffaloes]

Yes, I know of the rule. And you can only attempt a free kick if you fair catch a punt or kickoff. McNabb makes millions and he doesn't know the rules.

Incorrect.

Could you point out what is not correct? TIA

The part in bold. Or more specifically, the last 3 words of the part in bold.

I guess you could try a free kick if there is a missed FG that is fair caught. Other than that, it seems correct

 

[TommyGilmore]

Yes, I know of the rule. And you can only attempt a free kick if you fair catch a punt or kickoff. McNabb makes millions and he doesn't know the rules.

Incorrect.

Could you point out what is not correct? TIA

The part in bold. Or more specifically, the last 3 words of the part in bold.

I guess you could try a free kick if there is a missed FG that is fair caught. Other than that, it seems correct

Yes. You can also call a fair catch on a Safety Kick.

 

[Buffaloes]

Yes, I know of the rule. And you can only attempt a free kick if you fair catch a punt or kickoff. McNabb makes millions and he doesn't know the rules.

Incorrect.

Could you point out what is not correct? TIA

The part in bold. Or more specifically, the last 3 words of the part in bold.

I guess you could try a free kick if there is a missed FG that is fair caught. Other than that, it seems correct

Yes. You can also call a fair catch on a Safety Kick.

Forgot about that one.

 

[Coach3K]

Wow...forget about semantics and catching people in "gotchas" - just explain the rule if you're going to take the time to post.

This particular "free kick" is one of three...the other 2 we're all very familiar with: standard kickoffs and safety kicks (the one coming after a safety). Basically, they are kicks that are unopposed (practically) by the other team (i.e., they aren't frothing at the mouth right at the line of scrimmage ready to maul the defenders in an effort to get to the ball before the kicker gets it off).

The circumstances that bring this one about are fairly simple. It CAN be used/invoked after a successful fair catch (or if catch interference is called on a fair catch), period. So if there's a fair catch involved, it can be used. I think Gilmore is just trying to be cute about when a fair catch can be called. Anyway....

It doesn't have to be at the end of the half/period...those just happen to be natural times to use it, because otherwise you'd probably just try to run plays from scrimmage in an attempt to gain yards/points otherwise.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I laughed.

I knew.

 

[Buffaloes]

Wow...forget about semantics and catching people in "gotchas" - just explain the rule if you're going to take the time to post.

This particular "free kick" is one of three...the other 2 we're all very familiar with: standard kickoffs and safety kicks (the one coming after a safety). Basically, they are kicks that are unopposed (practically) by the other team (i.e., they aren't frothing at the mouth right at the line of scrimmage ready to maul the defenders in an effort to get to the ball before the kicker gets it off).

The circumstances that bring this one about are fairly simple. It CAN be used/invoked after a successful fair catch (or if catch interference is called on a fair catch), period. So if there's a fair catch involved, it can be used. I think Gilmore is just trying to be cute about when a fair catch can be called. Anyway....

It doesn't have to be at the end of the half/period...those just happen to be natural times to use it, because otherwise you'd probably just try to run plays from scrimmage in an attempt to gain yards/points otherwise.

Digest of Rules Main

Fair Catch Kick

1. After a fair catch, the receiving team has the option to put the ball in play by a snap or a fair catch kick (field goal attempt), with fair catch kick lines established ten yards apart. All general rules apply as for a field goal attempt from scrimmage. The clock starts when the ball is kicked. (No tee permitted.)

Link

 

[kinghill]

I chuckled at McNabb and I did not know the free kick rule.

 

[Force]

Yes, I know of the rule. And you can only attempt a free kick if you fair catch a punt or kickoff. McNabb makes millions and he doesn't know the rules.

Incorrect.

Could you point out what is not correct? TIA

The part in bold. Or more specifically, the last 3 words of the part in bold.

I guess you could try a free kick if there is a missed FG that is fair caught. Other than that, it seems correct

Yes. You can also call a fair catch on a Safety Kick.

Forgot about that one.

so wouldn't that be a punt or kickoff after a safety

 

[chris1969]

Of course, this would only be attempted when you had so little time left that you couldn't even move forward to get closer. This really comes down to end of half or game.

Not necessarily. A team with a strong-legged FG kicker but no offense (think: Oakland) could make good use of this rule and go for the FG every time they caught a kick within 70 yards of the goalposts.Also, if a team is down by 10 points toward the end of the 4th quarter, it makes sense to take the free kick right away to conserve time.

Spoken like a coach!If your planning this ahead of time, it's more than likely happening after a punt. All the other scenarios will usually put you too far away for the attempt on a fair catch unless you get lucky. I don't think is used enough in the NFL. When a team has a punter out on injury, or just a poor punter in general, your team should practice this before the game. They should practice it in the preseason for one particular scenario. If the clock runs out during a fair catch, the coach or a captain of the receiving team may request a fair catch kick with 0 seconds on the clock. Be advised that all field goal rules apply, so the opposing team can run it back, but it's definitely something that should have been taken advantage of more.

 

[GregR_2]

Last week McNabb took alot of heat for not knowing the OT rules. He was criticized by media, fans and other players. It also came out that quite a few players were unsure of the OT themselves.

Yesterday, during the Cards/Giants game the rarely tried "free kick" came about. I remembered the rule because I saw it once in a pre-season game. In case you missed it - this allows a team to try a FG from almost a kickoff formation. There isn't anyone blocking the kick but it also takes the place of your "set of downs". Of course, this would only be attempted when you had so little time left that you couldn't even move forward to get closer. This really comes down to end of half or game.

Question is and be honest...

If you laughed at McNabb did you know the free kick rule?

Please do not give me "they make millions to know the rules" etc.....

I had heard of that rule before but I probably would not have thought of it myself. Once I saw what they were doing I realized what was going on.However this isn't even remotely close to the McNabb overtime issue. This was the first free kick attempted since something like 1968 whereas McNabb has been in 12 overtime games in his NFL career.

Having your field general not know about a rule that is obvious to even casual NFL fans is absolutely inexcusable.

The last fair catch kick attempted before this one was in a 2005 game between the Titans and Texans.The last fair catch kick to be SUCCESSFUL was in 1968. The kick this weekend was the 11th straight non-successful one, including one in a wildcard round playoff game in 89.

 

[GregR_2]

And shame on anyone who hangs out on a football message board and can't say off the top of their head the 7 ways you can score points in NFL football! Everyone here should have known about fair catch kicks.

 

[oso diablo]

anybody that read the More Strange but True Football Stories knows about the free kick

 

[[scooter]]

If the clock runs out during a fair catch, the coach or a captain of the receiving team may request a fair catch kick with 0 seconds on the clock. Be advised that all field goal rules apply, so the opposing team can run it back, but it's definitely something that should have been taken advantage of more.

Can you fake the field goal and throw a hail-mary? Might be a sneaky way to get in one last play after the clock expires.If not.....what about this scenario:- Team B trails by 7 points with 0:01 remaining; Team A is pinned at the 1-yard line line- Team A punts; the coverage is so good that the player on Team B has no way to return the kick; he makes a "fair catch" signal with 0:00 remaining on the clock- Team B requests a Fair Catch Kick- Team B kicker kicks the ball very hard, bouncing off a player on Team A and rolling into the end zone- Team B recovers ball in end zone.Touchdown?

 

[renesauz]

And shame on anyone who hangs out on a football message board and can't say off the top of their head the 7 ways you can score points in NFL football! Everyone here should have known about fair catch kicks.

FALSEPretty sure it would be scored as a FG for the Kicker.

 

[renesauz]

Of course, this would only be attempted when you had so little time left that you couldn't even move forward to get closer. This really comes down to end of half or game.

Not necessarily. A team with a strong-legged FG kicker but no offense (think: Oakland) could make good use of this rule and go for the FG every time they caught a kick within 70 yards of the goalposts.Also, if a team is down by 10 points toward the end of the 4th quarter, it makes sense to take the free kick right away to conserve time.

Might make sense on short punts (fair caught on oppositions end of field), but realize that a miss is still a miss. The other team gets the ball where you attempted the kick from. Just because it's unchallenged doesn't make it wise to routinely attempt 60 yard plus FG's.This rule isn't taken advantage of enough, but the truth is that it's usefullness is very limited.

 

[GregR_2]

...Yesterday, during the Cards/Giants game the rarely tried "free kick" came about. ...Question is and be honest... If you laughed at McNabb did you know the free kick rule?Please do not give me "they make millions to know the rules" etc.....

And by the way, "free kick" probably isn't the appropriate term to use here if we're getting into the rules. It's a Fair Catch Kick. Free kick is a generic term that would include punts, kickoffs, etc. I'm not sure if a Fair Catch Kick is a free kick by NFL terminology or not... it's the only kick that doesn't get mentioned in the rules for Free Kicks.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Last week McNabb took alot of heat for not knowing the OT rules. He was criticized by media, fans and other players. It also came out that quite a few players were unsure of the OT themselves.

Yesterday, during the Cards/Giants game the rarely tried "free kick" came about. I remembered the rule because I saw it once in a pre-season game. In case you missed it - this allows a team to try a FG from almost a kickoff formation. There isn't anyone blocking the kick but it also takes the place of your "set of downs". Of course, this would only be attempted when you had so little time left that you couldn't even move forward to get closer. This really comes down to end of half or game.

Question is and be honest...

If you laughed at McNabb did you know the free kick rule?

Please do not give me "they make millions to know the rules" etc.....

Yes.

 

[BassNBrew]

If you laughed at McNabb did you know the free kick rule?

yes

Great avatar.

 

[[scooter]]

And by the way, "free kick" probably isn't the appropriate term to use here if we're getting into the rules. It's a Fair Catch Kick. Free kick is a generic term that would include punts, kickoffs, etc. I'm not sure if a Fair Catch Kick is a free kick by NFL terminology or not... it's the only kick that doesn't get mentioned in the rules for Free Kicks.

It can be. If the team opts to make a Fair Catch Kick from the exact spot of the catch, then it's considered a "free kick". If the team opts to make a Fair Catch Kick out of Field Goal Formation, then it's not considered a free kick.edit: I was going by the NFL website as well as an old copy of the NFL rulebook. However, the latest copy of the NFL rules does not state that a Fair Catch Kick is a "free kick".

So, we all thought we were so smart for knowing the rule, yet most of us couldn't even call it by it's proper name: Fair Catch Kick.

 

[GregR_2]

And shame on anyone who hangs out on a football message board and can't say off the top of their head the 7 ways you can score points in NFL football! Everyone here should have known about fair catch kicks.

FALSEPretty sure it would be scored as a FG for the Kicker.

Actually I should have said 8.If you roll everything up to just "touchdown", "field goal", "safety", and "try" then you can say there's 4 ways to score. But it doesn't make much sense to roll it up given the different variations there are, including different numbers of points.TouchdownPlacekickDrop kickFair catch kick1 pt try (PAT)2 pt try (2 pt conversion)1 pt safety2 pt safety

 

[BassNBrew]

And shame on anyone who hangs out on a football message board and can't say off the top of their head the 7 ways you can score points in NFL football! Everyone here should have known about fair catch kicks.

FALSEPretty sure it would be scored as a FG for the Kicker.

Actually I should have said 8.If you roll everything up to just "touchdown", "field goal", "safety", and "try" then you can say there's 4 ways to score. But it doesn't make much sense to roll it up given the different variations there are, including different numbers of points.TouchdownPlacekickDrop kickFair catch kick1 pt try (PAT)2 pt try (2 pt conversion)1 pt safety2 pt safety

You forgot banging the cheerleaders.

 

[[scooter]]

Actually I should have said 8.If you roll everything up to just "touchdown", "field goal", "safety", and "try" then you can say there's 4 ways to score. But it doesn't make much sense to roll it up given the different variations there are, including different numbers of points.TouchdownPlacekickDrop kickFair catch kick1 pt try (PAT)2 pt try (2 pt conversion)1 pt safety2 pt safety

If you're going to differentiate between "placekick" and "drop kick", then shouldn't you also differentiate between "placekicked PAT" and "drop kicked PAT"?

 

[renesauz]

And shame on anyone who hangs out on a football message board and can't say off the top of their head the 7 ways you can score points in NFL football! Everyone here should have known about fair catch kicks.

FALSEPretty sure it would be scored as a FG for the Kicker.

Actually I should have said 8.If you roll everything up to just "touchdown", "field goal", "safety", and "try" then you can say there's 4 ways to score. But it doesn't make much sense to roll it up given the different variations there are, including different numbers of points.TouchdownPlacekickDrop kickFair catch kick1 pt try (PAT)2 pt try (2 pt conversion)1 pt safety2 pt safety

Sorry, but no matter how you spin it, it's still just an uncontested FG try. O....and while we're at it...the 1 point safety is a theoretical that's imposible, so it's ridiculous to include it. The five are:TDXP 2 pt. conv.FG (including drop kicks and fair catch kicks)Safety

 

[[scooter]]

Sorry, but no matter how you spin it, it's still just an uncontested FG try. O....and while we're at it...the 1 point safety is a theoretical that's imposible, so it's ridiculous to include it. The five are:

TD

XP

2 pt. conv.

FG (including drop kicks and fair catch kicks)

Safety

1. It's not a theoretical (it apparently happened at least once in the '50s, and it's happened a few times in the NCAA)2. Why would it be ridiculous to include something that's listed in the Official Rules Of The National Football League?

 

[GregR_2]

And shame on anyone who hangs out on a football message board and can't say off the top of their head the 7 ways you can score points in NFL football! Everyone here should have known about fair catch kicks.

FALSEPretty sure it would be scored as a FG for the Kicker.

Actually I should have said 8.If you roll everything up to just "touchdown", "field goal", "safety", and "try" then you can say there's 4 ways to score. But it doesn't make much sense to roll it up given the different variations there are, including different numbers of points.

Touchdown

Placekick

Drop kick

Fair catch kick

1 pt try (PAT)

2 pt try (2 pt conversion)

1 pt safety

2 pt safety

Sorry, but no matter how you spin it, it's still just an uncontested FG try. O....and while we're at it...the 1 point safety is a theoretical that's imposible, so it's ridiculous to include it. The five are:TD

XP

2 pt. conv.

FG (including drop kicks and fair catch kicks)

Safety

Offense fumbles the ball on an extra point and a defensive player bats it away, into the end zone and out of bounds. 1 pt safety.

 

[General Tso]

I knew the rule. I'm amazed it hasn't happened more over the years. There's been at least a handful of occasions in my 30 years of watchi8ng football on tv when I've thought that a free kick was a viable option. It's sad that a guy in his barka lounge can actually out-think an NFL coach. Truth is, though - most of the guys in the NFl (including coaches) just aren't that smart.

 

[Chaka]

And shame on anyone who hangs out on a football message board and can't say off the top of their head the 7 ways you can score points in NFL football! Everyone here should have known about fair catch kicks.

FALSEPretty sure it would be scored as a FG for the Kicker.

Does that mean that a 64 yard fair catch kick would go in the record books as the longest field goal in NFL history?

 

[[scooter]]

And shame on anyone who hangs out on a football message board and can't say off the top of their head the 7 ways you can score points in NFL football! Everyone here should have known about fair catch kicks.

FALSEPretty sure it would be scored as a FG for the Kicker.

Does that mean that a 64 yard fair catch kick would go in the record books as the longest field goal in NFL history?

Yes.

 

[Coach3K]

I'm guessing that if a 64+ yard FG like this DID happen, it would probably get the "asterisk" treatment due to the uncontested nature of it vs. previous record FG's.

If not officially in the record books...then at least certainly in the media and to fans: "Yeah Al...he hit a record-breaking 67-yard field goal there, but you have to remember that he didn't have defenders in his face like Dempsey, Elam, and Prater did. You see kickoffs go through the uprights from time to time without thinking too much about it...he basically just kicked a relatively short, straight kickoff." (It's just a matter of time with Prater! )

 

[FlapJacks]

And shame on anyone who hangs out on a football message board and can't say off the top of their head the 7 ways you can score points in NFL football! Everyone here should have known about fair catch kicks.

I build the fair catch kick into my annual and weekly kicker projections.

 

[Interseptopus]

absolutely I knew about this rule