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Tarvarus jacksons arm strength (1 Viewer)
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1What you are really asking if he will get the ball to Randy Moss. The answer is no.
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butcher boy
Footballguy
2.74
az_prof
Footballguy
His arm strength is at least an 8. He is plenty strong. Accurate? More like a 3. And the speed of his decision-making needs work.
Personally, he still has potential. He is better than Brady Quinn, I'll tell you that. And he has played better.
And, yes, he is quite capable of throwing the deep ball and the Go routes to Moss. People in fantasy sometimes are blind to reality: they get caught up in group think and in looking at stats lines and they make judgements without even watching the player. Not saying Jackson is great; but he is better than a few QBs who are starting in the NFL and he has potential because he really hasn't started many games in his career.
Personally, he still has potential. He is better than Brady Quinn, I'll tell you that. And he has played better.
And, yes, he is quite capable of throwing the deep ball and the Go routes to Moss. People in fantasy sometimes are blind to reality: they get caught up in group think and in looking at stats lines and they make judgements without even watching the player. Not saying Jackson is great; but he is better than a few QBs who are starting in the NFL and he has potential because he really hasn't started many games in his career.
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perry147
Footballguy
DawnBTVS
Footballguy
Depends on how you are defining arm strength. If you're talking the ability to throw deep balls (ignoring accuracy) then I would probably grade him out around a 3.
If you're talking about throwing lasers with little touch regardless of whether it's a short or intermediate pass, I'd bump him to a 4 or 5.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...kson-highlights
^ for a video example
If you're talking about throwing lasers with little touch regardless of whether it's a short or intermediate pass, I'd bump him to a 4 or 5.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...kson-highlights
^ for a video example
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whitem0nkey
Footballguy
I agree with you. in 2008 when he got to play he had a QB rating of 95 - 9 TD and 2 INTs
beef
Footballguy
i see you rounded up here. using the qb arm strength calculator i came up with 2.7362497.
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az_prof
Footballguy
First, thanks for the link. But I don't see why you would say 3. He makes a 40 yard throw to Berrian with no effort--he could easily have thrown it further. I have seen him in other games launching it very deep and will look for video. But even in this video there are no examples of him lacking arm strength. But as you say, this video shows him being very accurate, more so than I remember. And the throw to Wade is a great 20 yard pass.
az_prof
Footballguy
This video is from 08 playoff game against PHI. It was not a great game for him, but even here he doesn't look that bad.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...kson-highlights
This is 09 wk 16 highlights of Jackson against Atlanata.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...kson-highlights
What I see here: surprisingly good accuracy on the 10-15 yards routes and the dump off passes. Highlights don't show him going deep at all; I still think he has a strong arm, but in this game at least, he didn't try any or they didn't work and so aren't in highlight.s
He runs well. People forget but he will pick up 30-40 yards rushing. He is a lot like McNabb. He also has ball control issues and ends up fumbling a lot. That's a problem and was the reason the Vikings lost this game.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...kson-highlights
This is 09 wk 16 highlights of Jackson against Atlanata.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...kson-highlights
What I see here: surprisingly good accuracy on the 10-15 yards routes and the dump off passes. Highlights don't show him going deep at all; I still think he has a strong arm, but in this game at least, he didn't try any or they didn't work and so aren't in highlight.s
He runs well. People forget but he will pick up 30-40 yards rushing. He is a lot like McNabb. He also has ball control issues and ends up fumbling a lot. That's a problem and was the reason the Vikings lost this game.
DLR
Footballguy
What constitutes real opportunity. I feel like I spent way too much time watching him try and be a QB while we were losing.
TeamDingo
Footballguy
This
points for getting in a Quinn dig
TheChairman
Footballguy
We're talking about Tarvaris, not Jay Cutler
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
That has been the rap on T-Jax..big arm, small brain.
az_prof
Footballguy
You busted me Sig! I confess that I do hate Quinn.points for getting in a Quinn dig
encaitar
Footballguy
His arm strength is as good as anyone's in the league. He can flat out rifle the ball and throws a very catchable deep ball. His problem isn't even accuracy. Anyone that's ever seen him practice will see him fit throws into tight areas all the time. He's very physically gifted as a QB. This is why I think Chilly still believes(hopes) he will one day be a good starting NFL QB.
His problem is his head. The moment you take him from the practice to a game situation he falls apart. He rushes throws, misses open receivers, doesn't read the blitz, etc. He just can't deal with the moment and the pressure. Could he if given the chance? Maybe, maybe not. Some people just can't get over the moment enough for the game to slow down and become easier for them. However, he's got as much arm strength as any QB will ever need, there's no doubt about that.
His problem is his head. The moment you take him from the practice to a game situation he falls apart. He rushes throws, misses open receivers, doesn't read the blitz, etc. He just can't deal with the moment and the pressure. Could he if given the chance? Maybe, maybe not. Some people just can't get over the moment enough for the game to slow down and become easier for them. However, he's got as much arm strength as any QB will ever need, there's no doubt about that.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Pennington did ok with Moss.
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ThePittbully
Footballguy
People posting two's and three obviously know nothing about him, he's got a strong arm. At least a 7 or 8. His accuracy has been off in the past and he has been slow on decision making but he's also a project QB out of a small school who sat almost no time before going into starting duties. I'm not sure he'll ever be a NFL qb but the book is certainly not closed yet.
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
There's a thread floating around here that claims he'll be a top 10 fantasy option if he started.There's a lot to question about him but arm strength isn't one of them. He's an easy 7, maybe an 8.
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Gotta leave 10 out there in case someone comes along with a better arm than him so that it doesn't screw up the scoring system. Probabaly bump him down to an 8 just to be safe.
Having said that I would give Jackson a solid 6-7 on the arm strength-o-meter. Certainly above average of the NFL qb's. Also apparently the general feeling in the organization is that Jackson will never be an adequate qb there. (Chilly being ON his side against most everybody else).I get the feeling some of them may not know which end of the scale is up.
Carl Eller's Dead Liver
Footballguy
Jackson's arm strength has never been his problem.....actually he has one of the strongest arms in the league. I think the following rankings will say it all:
Arm Strength: 9
Accuracy: 6
Decision making: 1.5
Arm Strength: 9
Accuracy: 6
Decision making: 1.5
griff321
Footballguy
In training camp T-Jack had a few nice long TD passes to Berrian. I still haven't seen Favre pull that off.
His accuracy and game management were much improved as well. For instance, he was actually progressing to his second and third reads instead of staring down the primary and then trying to force the ball like so many years before.
If you focus on his preseason action then of course he is the second coming of Spergon Wynn, but his progression hasn't been all doom and gloom.
His accuracy and game management were much improved as well. For instance, he was actually progressing to his second and third reads instead of staring down the primary and then trying to force the ball like so many years before.
If you focus on his preseason action then of course he is the second coming of Spergon Wynn, but his progression hasn't been all doom and gloom.
Ice Cream Man
Footballguy
I think the definitional confusion over "arm strength" is why some in this thread give this guy such a low rating. It doesn't really matter at the end of the day if you have a strong arm, measured by how far you can throw it. It matters whether you a) use it accurately and b) use it effectively/often. If you can't throw an accurate bomb under pressure, then you have effectively a weak arm.
Sam Quentin
Footballguy
Are you Childress?
buck naked
Footballguy
If Elway is a 9, who could possibly be 10????
Warhogs
Footballguy
Favre in his prime? He was always breaking fingers on his receivers.
nysportsfan
Footballguy
Jeff George?buck naked said:
pizzatyme
Footballguy
He wasn't a 10, but he was a 9 for arm strength and a 9 for accuracy.Too bad his attitude was a 1. Best player I ever played football with. And the worst attitude to go with it.
