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Tatum Bell's Value (1 Viewer)

vandelyons

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There has been more than enough discussion of the Denver RB situation on this board. But I haven't seen anyone trying to peg Tatum Bell's dynasty value.

Is anyone offering - or fielding offers for - Tatum Bell? If so, what are the deals.

What is he worth to you in terms of picks or players?

 
Nothing. He's a RBBC at best. Not just in terms of those around him but his own personal ability to handle a load.

He can't.

Minimal at best, perhaps a few plug and plays.... maybe a solid RB4/5 or bye-week fill-in.

I don't have a link, but I remember Shanahan saying last year that he didn't even see Bell as a full-load back... more of a 3rd down back or RBBC specialist.

I could see Dayne/Bell in a Cadillac/Brown type backfield like at Auburn, (Bell being Cadillac), but beyond that... I really wouldn't expect to plant him on your rostser and watch as he blossoms into fantasy studley.

 
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Assuming 12 teams and standard start-2 RB league...

Dynasty Rookie Draft = between 1.3 and 1.7 pick

Initial Dynasty Draft = late-4th / early-5th round (FBG's has him ranked in the 5th to 6th round)

Comparable value = Josepth Addai, Lendale White and DeAngelo Williams. I also think Bell is comparable to Willie Parker, Rueben Droughns and Chester Taylor but most will disagree. Ranked higher than DeShaun Foster and Chris Brown since Dayne is less talented than D Williams and L White.

 
Nothing. He's a RBBC at best. Not just in terms of those around him but his own personal ability to handle a load.

He can't.

Minimal at best, perhaps a few plug and plays.... maybe a solid RB4/5 or bye-week fill-in.

I don't have a link, but I remember Shanahan saying last year that he didn't even see Bell as a full-load back... more of a 3rd down back or RBBC specialist.

I could see Dayne/Bell in a Cadillac/Brown type backfield like at Auburn, (Bell being Cadillac), but beyond that... I really wouldn't expect to plant him on your rostser and watch as he blossoms into fantasy studley.
I rarely chime in on DEN running back threads, but I do think Bell is extremely undervalued heading into the '06 season. IMO, Shanahan has called Bell a 5-10 carry RB simply as a motivational ploy. If I simply look at the ABC's of the Bell's situation, I find it difficult to value him him so low this year...* In '05, Bell had 921 yards and 8 TD's sharing carries primarily with Mike Anderson.

* In '05, Bell averaged 5.3 yards/carry (#1 in the NFL).

* Mike Anderson is gone, DEN did not draft / sign a new RB, and Dayne is his main competition.

* DEN has their entire OL returning and the same veteran QB to relieve the pressure. The only missing piece is Lelie.

 
In my experience over the past two weeks, he is more or less immovable. I don't place the same value on him as Weiner Dog, but I can't even get a discussion started.

12 team dynasty league with mostly informed owners.

 
Its a very good time to draft Bell in a dynasty format ...
Could you please fix your link?
I believe it was more of an emphasis of his opinion... it's underlined, not link.As for me .... I won't touch a Denver RB until after my initial starting skill players are covered (7th or 8th round). But, I don't want to tied up 3 roster spots just to get 1 starter! And if I have to guess who it is each week, forget it!! :wall:

 
Nothing. He's a RBBC at best. Not just in terms of those around him but his own personal ability to handle a load.

He can't.

Minimal at best, perhaps a few plug and plays.... maybe a solid RB4/5 or bye-week fill-in.

I don't have a link, but I remember Shanahan saying last year that he didn't even see Bell as a full-load back... more of a 3rd down back or RBBC specialist.

I could see Dayne/Bell in a Cadillac/Brown type backfield like at Auburn, (Bell being Cadillac), but beyond that... I really wouldn't expect to plant him on your rostser and watch as he blossoms into fantasy studley.
I rarely chime in on DEN running back threads, but I do think Bell is extremely undervalued heading into the '06 season. IMO, Shanahan has called Bell a 5-10 carry RB simply as a motivational ploy. If I simply look at the ABC's of the Bell's situation, I find it difficult to value him him so low this year...* In '05, Bell had 921 yards and 8 TD's sharing carries primarily with Mike Anderson.

* In '05, Bell averaged 5.3 yards/carry (#1 in the NFL).

* Mike Anderson is gone, DEN did not draft / sign a new RB, and Dayne is his main competition.

* DEN has their entire OL returning and the same veteran QB to relieve the pressure. The only missing piece is Lelie.
YPC in first 12 carries each game: 6.1YPC in carries 12+ each game: 2.6

Certainly makes that statement in bold more believable, and look like a lot more than just a "motivational ploy".

 
Nothing. He's a RBBC at best. Not just in terms of those around him but his own personal ability to handle a load.

He can't.

Minimal at best, perhaps a few plug and plays.... maybe a solid RB4/5 or bye-week fill-in.

I don't have a link, but I remember Shanahan saying last year that he didn't even see Bell as a full-load back... more of a 3rd down back or RBBC specialist.

I could see Dayne/Bell in a Cadillac/Brown type backfield like at Auburn, (Bell being Cadillac), but beyond that... I really wouldn't expect to plant him on your rostser and watch as he blossoms into fantasy studley.
I disagree. I don't think that Bell is incapable of getting 20 carries a game, I just think that he won't get the opportunity in Denver. I would not be surprised to see him wind up in another city and rush for 1300+ yards at some other point in his career. I think he's a very good buy-low candidate in Dynasty.
Assuming 12 teams and standard start-2 RB league...

Dynasty Rookie Draft = between 1.3 and 1.7 pick

Initial Dynasty Draft = late-4th / early-5th round (FBG's has him ranked in the 5th to 6th round)

Comparable value = Josepth Addai, Lendale White and DeAngelo Williams. I also think Bell is comparable to Willie Parker, Rueben Droughns and Chester Taylor but most will disagree. Ranked higher than DeShaun Foster and Chris Brown since Dayne is less talented than D Williams and L White.
I have no problem ranking Bell comparable to Parker and Taylor. I don't like ranking him above Droughns, though, since Droughns is now officially a Proven Commodity . I also think that when Bell's rookie contract expires and he hits free agency, his value will definitely increase.
I rarely chime in on DEN running back threads, but I do think Bell is extremely undervalued heading into the '06 season. IMO, Shanahan has called Bell a 5-10 carry RB simply as a motivational ploy. If I simply look at the ABC's of the Bell's situation, I find it difficult to value him him so low this year...

* In '05, Bell had 921 yards and 8 TD's sharing carries primarily with Mike Anderson.

* In '05, Bell averaged 5.3 yards/carry (#1 in the NFL).

* Mike Anderson is gone, DEN did not draft / sign a new RB, and Dayne is his main competition.

* DEN has their entire OL returning and the same veteran QB to relieve the pressure. The only missing piece is Lelie.
Last year, as a "motivational ploy", Shanahan named Mike Anderson the starter and dropped Darius Watts to the fifth string. The result? Mike Anderson was the starter for the whole season, and Darius Watts was a game-day inactive in all but 2 games (iirc).The lesson? Mike Shanahan doesn't do "motivational ploys".

 
Last year, as a "motivational ploy", Shanahan named Mike Anderson the starter and dropped Darius Watts to the fifth string. The result? Mike Anderson was the starter for the whole season, and Darius Watts was a game-day inactive in all but 2 games (iirc).

The lesson? Mike Shanahan doesn't do "motivational ploys".
...but on the flip-side of the coin, Shanahan had also pimped players like David Terrell and Cecil Sapp to the tune of 0 yards receiving and 21 yards rushing last year.Shanahan is the master of curve ball. I believe the people who are banking on Dayne's carries leaping from 53 last year to nearly 300 this year (...adding Mike Anderson's 239 carries to Dayne's 53) will be sorely disappointed.

I'm not lobbying Bell as a 25+ carry RB. He doesn't need to be. Bell only needs his carries to increase from 173 to 250 to propel him into a Top-10 rusher (250 x 5.3 yards/carry = 1325 yards). The NFL's #10 overall rusher last year (McGahee) had 1247 rushing yards. 250 carries is only 15 carries/game. Very achieveable for Bell.

 
he's quite ready should someone(Dayne or...) get hurt. That has some value as we all know. He'd have a chip on his shoulder and (it's possible) could do well and never give the job back.

I wouldn't want him but could see such a case made for him when comparing backups

 
Bottom line is this. Bell will be a good play again for leagues that start a flex or 2

as for a #2 RB we all will have to wait and see

 
If you need 1,000 yards rushing + 6-7 TD's and 20 catches + 200+ yards .......... draft him

I did in an initial draft a week ago.

Why ?

Value.

He's young, fast, exciting and he's got the potential either with the Bronco's or possibly with another team 1-2 years from now. He's got all the potential - just needs to do it to become absolute stud status, and in the meantime he can get you 1,200 total yards and 6-8 td's

That aint bad

 
I'm not lobbying Bell as a 25+ carry RB. He doesn't need to be. Bell only needs his carries to increase from 173 to 250 to propel him into a Top-10 rusher (250 x 5.3 yards/carry = 1325 yards). The NFL's #10 overall rusher last year (McGahee) had 1247 rushing yards. 250 carries is only 15 carries/game. Very achieveable for Bell.
This math doesn't work. It wouldn't work for any RB, and ESPECIALLY not for a RB with Bell who has struggled more and more the more carries he gets throughout a game.Again, Bell's YPC drops 200% after carry number 12.

 
The question was... what is Bell's dynasty value? I'd say it's time to trade high on Bell.

He may have a very good year this year (or not), but if you think he'll still be running for Denver in '07 and '08, you're fooling yourself.

 
Tatum Bell is funny. Those who own him wont give him up, those who have him cant get anything for him

 
I'm not lobbying Bell as a 25+ carry RB.  He doesn't need to be.  Bell only needs his carries to increase from 173 to 250 to propel him into a Top-10 rusher (250 x 5.3 yards/carry = 1325 yards).  The NFL's #10 overall rusher last year (McGahee) had 1247 rushing yards.  250 carries is only 15 carries/game.  Very achieveable for Bell.
This math doesn't work. It wouldn't work for any RB, and ESPECIALLY not for a RB with Bell who has struggled more and more the more carries he gets throughout a game.Again, Bell's YPC drops 200% after carry number 12.
Let's call a spade a spade here...Only 15% of Bell's carries (25 vs 148) were in the "12+" range. I would much rather base Bell's skills on his 6.1 average on 148 carries, as opposed to his 2.6 average on 25 measily carries.

If we carry this math onto 15 carries/game (ie. 250 carries/season), Bell is still looking at

12 carries x 6.1 yards/carry = 73 yards

3 carries x 2.1 yards/carrry = 6 yards

79 yards/game x 16 games = 1,264 yards/season...

...still good enough for Top-10 last year.

 
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I'm not lobbying Bell as a 25+ carry RB.  He doesn't need to be.  Bell only needs his carries to increase from 173 to 250 to propel him into a Top-10 rusher (250 x 5.3 yards/carry = 1325 yards).  The NFL's #10 overall rusher last year (McGahee) had 1247 rushing yards.  250 carries is only 15 carries/game.  Very achieveable for Bell.
This math doesn't work. It wouldn't work for any RB, and ESPECIALLY not for a RB with Bell who has struggled more and more the more carries he gets throughout a game.Again, Bell's YPC drops 200% after carry number 12.
Let's call a spade a spade here...Only 15% of Bell's carries (25 vs 148) were in the "12+" range. I would much rather base Bell's skills on his 6.1 average on 148 carries, as opposed to his 2.6 average on 25 measily carries.

If we carry this math onto 15 carries/game (ie. 250 carries/season), Bell is still looking at

12 carries x 6.1 yards/carry = 73 yards

3 carries x 2.1 yards/carrry = 6 yards

79 yards/game x 16 games = 1,264 yards/season...

...still good enough for Top-10 last year.
nice math :thumbup: :goodposting:
 
I'm not lobbying Bell as a 25+ carry RB.  He doesn't need to be.  Bell only needs his carries to increase from 173 to 250 to propel him into a Top-10 rusher (250 x 5.3 yards/carry = 1325 yards).  The NFL's #10 overall rusher last year (McGahee) had 1247 rushing yards.  250 carries is only 15 carries/game.  Very achieveable for Bell.
This math doesn't work. It wouldn't work for any RB, and ESPECIALLY not for a RB with Bell who has struggled more and more the more carries he gets throughout a game.Again, Bell's YPC drops 200% after carry number 12.
Let's call a spade a spade here...Only 15% of Bell's carries (25 vs 148) were in the "12+" range. I would much rather base Bell's skills on his 6.1 average on 148 carries, as opposed to his 2.6 average on 25 measily carries.

If we carry this math onto 15 carries/game (ie. 250 carries/season), Bell is still looking at

12 carries x 6.1 yards/carry = 73 yards

3 carries x 2.1 yards/carrry = 6 yards

79 yards/game x 16 games = 1,264 yards/season...

...still good enough for Top-10 last year.
nice math :thumbup: :goodposting:
Everyone seems to be forgetting that we're talking dynasty here! Does anyone really believe Tatum Bell is going to be the Broncos starting RB for the next few years? I certainly don't. :no:

 
who says he HAS to be with the Bronco's ?

at one time Priest wasn't with KC - I bet a LOT of guys kcik themselves for not keeping Priest when he wasn't

at one time Lamont Jordan, Chester Taylor, Rudi Johnson ......... all backups or part timers. Now ? top 10 studs

Could Bell be that ?

Maybe so - yes - and with his numbers as they are, it would probably be good to see him traded to another team IMO.

So if you're thinking Dynasty is even makes more sense to get Tatum Bell. He gives you now 1,000 yards total yards and 6-8 TD's and he has potential to give a lot more

 
Who's value in dynasty might be more S. Gado (young raw talent, just waiting for Green to get hurt) or T. Bell ( solid producer in DEN system)?

Does anyone see a change in the RBBC system in DEN because Kubiak left for HOU?

 
who says he HAS to be with the Bronco's ?

at one time Priest wasn't with KC - I bet a LOT of guys kcik themselves for not keeping Priest when he wasn't

at one time Lamont Jordan, Chester Taylor, Rudi Johnson ......... all backups or part timers. Now ? top 10 studs

Could Bell be that ?

Maybe so - yes - and with his numbers as they are, it would probably be good to see him traded to another team IMO.

So if you're thinking Dynasty is even makes more sense to get Tatum Bell. He gives you now 1,000 yards total yards and 6-8 TD's and he has potential to give a lot more
Just my opinion, but I don't think Bell is half the back he is on any other team. System-back.
 
Let's call a spade a spade here...Only 15% of Bell's carries (25 vs 148) were in the "12+" range. I would much rather base Bell's skills on his 6.1 average on 148 carries, as opposed to his 2.6 average on 25 measily carries.
Great post. Bell has so few carries in this range, that it's just not meaningful. Why should the "Bell can't carry the load" crowd get to do all the bad math? Where are the people pointing out that:Bell's YPC in 2004 shows the reverse trend: higher in 11+ carries than in carries 1-10.Or that Bell's YPC in 16+ carries last year was 4.7and then saying, Wow that guy can handle the load!
 
Sounds like the worms are getting opened again.

I traded Bell and Parker for Steven Jackson this off-season in a Dynasty.

I think Bell is worth a late 4th which means hes a steal to me in the 5th and 6th.

 
I traded Bell and Parker for Steven Jackson this off-season in a Dynasty.

Very good move - if Jackson stays studly and Parker/Bell doesn't. You traded 2 potential studs for one more sure fire one.

can't blame ya there, nor the other guy.

I am finishing an initial dynasty draft, auction style, salary cap, and I have both Bell and Parker.

 
Last year, as a "motivational ploy", Shanahan named Mike Anderson the starter and dropped Darius Watts to the fifth string. The result? Mike Anderson was the starter for the whole season, and Darius Watts was a game-day inactive in all but 2 games (iirc).

The lesson? Mike Shanahan doesn't do "motivational ploys".
...but on the flip-side of the coin, Shanahan had also pimped players like David Terrell and Cecil Sapp to the tune of 0 yards receiving and 21 yards rushing last year.Shanahan is the master of curve ball. I believe the people who are banking on Dayne's carries leaping from 53 last year to nearly 300 this year (...adding Mike Anderson's 239 carries to Dayne's 53) will be sorely disappointed.

I'm not lobbying Bell as a 25+ carry RB. He doesn't need to be. Bell only needs his carries to increase from 173 to 250 to propel him into a Top-10 rusher (250 x 5.3 yards/carry = 1325 yards). The NFL's #10 overall rusher last year (McGahee) had 1247 rushing yards. 250 carries is only 15 carries/game. Very achieveable for Bell.
Shanahan never pimped Terrell or Sapp. He says he likes their work ethic and he thinks they could produce if they were in a certain role, but he has never once overestimated or exaggerated their role with the team. I also don't think anyone's banking on Dayne getting 300 carries this year (I have him estimated to about 270, which is what Anderson would have gotten if he hadn't missed weeks 1 and 17).I agree that Tatum Bell could easily have value under the right circumstances, I just don't think those circumstances are very likely. I also *strongly* disagree with the description of Shanahan as "the master of curve ball". If anything, he's a very straight shooter. He has always been very honest with a player's role with the team. Jeff Legwold, the #1 Broncos Insider, has said the exact same thing- believe what Shanny tells you.

Also, since you've posted some numbers for Tatum Bell, allow me to post some, too.

First 8 weeks: 80/562/5 (7.025 ypc)

Last 8 weeks: 93/359/3 (3.86 ypc). Also worth noting- all 3 TDs came in week 17... with Anderson on the bench.

I'll let you draw your own conclusions.

 
Last year, as a "motivational ploy", Shanahan named Mike Anderson the starter and dropped Darius Watts to the fifth string. The result? Mike Anderson was the starter for the whole season, and Darius Watts was a game-day inactive in all but 2 games (iirc).

The lesson? Mike Shanahan doesn't do "motivational ploys".
...but on the flip-side of the coin, Shanahan had also pimped players like David Terrell and Cecil Sapp to the tune of 0 yards receiving and 21 yards rushing last year.Shanahan is the master of curve ball. I believe the people who are banking on Dayne's carries leaping from 53 last year to nearly 300 this year (...adding Mike Anderson's 239 carries to Dayne's 53) will be sorely disappointed.

I'm not lobbying Bell as a 25+ carry RB. He doesn't need to be. Bell only needs his carries to increase from 173 to 250 to propel him into a Top-10 rusher (250 x 5.3 yards/carry = 1325 yards). The NFL's #10 overall rusher last year (McGahee) had 1247 rushing yards. 250 carries is only 15 carries/game. Very achieveable for Bell.
Also, since you've posted some numbers for Tatum Bell, allow me to post some, too.First 8 weeks: 80/562/5 (7.025 ypc)

Last 8 weeks: 93/359/3 (3.86 ypc). Also worth noting- all 3 TDs came in week 17... with Anderson on the bench.

I'll let you draw your own conclusions.
Dayne's 8 games carrying the ball last year...First 4 = 20 carries for 151 yards (7.55 yrds/carry)

Last 4 = 33 carries for 119 yards (3.61 yrds/carry). Also worth noting - he did not score one single TD.

I'll let you draw your own conclusions.

 
Last year, as a "motivational ploy", Shanahan named Mike Anderson the starter and dropped Darius Watts to the fifth string. The result? Mike Anderson was the starter for the whole season, and Darius Watts was a game-day inactive in all but 2 games (iirc).

The lesson? Mike Shanahan doesn't do "motivational ploys".
...but on the flip-side of the coin, Shanahan had also pimped players like David Terrell and Cecil Sapp to the tune of 0 yards receiving and 21 yards rushing last year.Shanahan is the master of curve ball. I believe the people who are banking on Dayne's carries leaping from 53 last year to nearly 300 this year (...adding Mike Anderson's 239 carries to Dayne's 53) will be sorely disappointed.

I'm not lobbying Bell as a 25+ carry RB. He doesn't need to be. Bell only needs his carries to increase from 173 to 250 to propel him into a Top-10 rusher (250 x 5.3 yards/carry = 1325 yards). The NFL's #10 overall rusher last year (McGahee) had 1247 rushing yards. 250 carries is only 15 carries/game. Very achieveable for Bell.
Also, since you've posted some numbers for Tatum Bell, allow me to post some, too.First 8 weeks: 80/562/5 (7.025 ypc)

Last 8 weeks: 93/359/3 (3.86 ypc). Also worth noting- all 3 TDs came in week 17... with Anderson on the bench.

I'll let you draw your own conclusions.
Dayne's 8 games carrying the ball last year...First 4 = 20 carries for 151 yards (7.55 yrds/carry)

Last 4 = 33 carries for 119 yards (3.61 yrds/carry). Also worth noting - he did not score one single TD.

I'll let you draw your own conclusions.
:lmao:
 
who says he HAS to be with the Bronco's ?
Just my opinion, but I don't think Bell is half the back he is on any other team. System-back.
That could be said for any Denver RB. Certainly, a fair amount of their success (certainly in terms of TDs and YPC) is a function of the offense. We have seen that with Portis and Droughns. But, Bell is a very explosive player, IMO. One of the few backs in the league that can go the distance on any play. Very talented. Very athletic. He's a good one cut and go north and south with speed kind of runner and can also turn the corner. But, he has to show that he can be a guy that moves the chains more consistently to be a full time RB. I think he still really needs to be given a chance to show that he can or cannot do that in Denver.As for other team's interest, I think just by way of the fact that he can be a playmaker for you, a guy than can add a dimension to your running game that most teams do not have, other teams would be interested in giving him a look, if Denver were to ever quit on him or he decide to try his hand elsewhere. So, I think there definately would be some interest, if he were to become available.

 
Of the top 20-25 ranked dynasty RBs right now, Tatum Bell is the single back that I would be most surprised of turning into a consistent top 10 RB without injuries around him.

The people pimping Bell are the people who are still trying to justify that pick they spent on him two years ago in their dynasty league because of situation rather than talent. He was a mediocre player coming out of college that hasn't impressed the coaches enough to give him the ball and hasn't been good enough to beat out other mediocre players around him.

 
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The people pimping Bell are the people who are still trying to justify that pick they spent on him two years ago in their dynasty league because of situation rather than talent. He was a mediocre player coming out of college that hasn't impressed the coaches enough to give him the ball and hasn't been good enough to beat out other mediocre players around him.
Oh really?
 
who says he HAS to be with the Bronco's ?

at one time Priest wasn't with KC - I bet a LOT of guys kcik themselves for not keeping Priest when he wasn't

at one time Lamont Jordan, Chester Taylor, Rudi Johnson ......... all backups or part timers. Now ? top 10 studs

Could Bell be that ?

Maybe so - yes - and with his numbers as they are, it would probably be good to see him traded to another team IMO.

So if you're thinking Dynasty is even makes more sense to get Tatum Bell. He gives you now 1,000 yards total yards and 6-8 TD's and he has potential to give a lot more
Taylor a top 10 stud? :eek: Rumor up here in the northland is that he couldn't put down the oreos and climb off the couch long enough to keep the starting job that he was signed to fill. I would not be surprised to see another year of RBBC (although in snazzy new uni's).

 
Of the top 20-25 ranked dynasty RBs right now, Tatum Bell is the single back that I would be most surprised of turning into a consistent top 10 RB without injuries around him.

The people pimping Bell are the people who are still trying to justify that pick they spent on him two years ago in their dynasty league because of situation rather than talent. He was a mediocre player coming out of college that hasn't impressed the coaches enough to give him the ball and hasn't been good enough to beat out other mediocre players around him.
Thank you FreeBaGel, thank you.In agreement with you, if Tatum Bell didn't have that little horsey on his helmet, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

 
Of the top 20-25 ranked dynasty RBs right now, Tatum Bell is the single back that I would be most surprised of turning into a consistent top 10 RB without injuries around him.

The people pimping Bell are the people who are still trying to justify that pick they spent on him two years ago in their dynasty league because of situation rather than talent. He was a mediocre player coming out of college that hasn't impressed the coaches enough to give him the ball and hasn't been good enough to beat out other mediocre players around him.
Thank you FreeBaGel, thank you.In agreement with you, if Tatum Bell didn't have that little horsey on his helmet, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Again, I disagree. Lots of backs have had horsies on their helmets, but only one of them has posted a better ypc in ANY season than Bell has in the last two. I think on a team that values boom-or-bust RBs very highly, Bell is a 1200+ yard rusher. And I'm usually one of the more outspoken Bell critics on the board, at least in terms of the expectations that he's going to be the featured back in Denver.
 
Last year, as a "motivational ploy", Shanahan named Mike Anderson the starter and dropped Darius Watts to the fifth string. The result? Mike Anderson was the starter for the whole season, and Darius Watts was a game-day inactive in all but 2 games (iirc).

The lesson? Mike Shanahan doesn't do "motivational ploys".
...but on the flip-side of the coin, Shanahan had also pimped players like David Terrell and Cecil Sapp to the tune of 0 yards receiving and 21 yards rushing last year.Shanahan is the master of curve ball. I believe the people who are banking on Dayne's carries leaping from 53 last year to nearly 300 this year (...adding Mike Anderson's 239 carries to Dayne's 53) will be sorely disappointed.

I'm not lobbying Bell as a 25+ carry RB. He doesn't need to be. Bell only needs his carries to increase from 173 to 250 to propel him into a Top-10 rusher (250 x 5.3 yards/carry = 1325 yards). The NFL's #10 overall rusher last year (McGahee) had 1247 rushing yards. 250 carries is only 15 carries/game. Very achieveable for Bell.
Also, since you've posted some numbers for Tatum Bell, allow me to post some, too.First 8 weeks: 80/562/5 (7.025 ypc)

Last 8 weeks: 93/359/3 (3.86 ypc). Also worth noting- all 3 TDs came in week 17... with Anderson on the bench.

I'll let you draw your own conclusions.
Dayne's 8 games carrying the ball last year...First 4 = 20 carries for 151 yards (7.55 yrds/carry)

Last 4 = 33 carries for 119 yards (3.61 yrds/carry). Also worth noting - he did not score one single TD.

I'll let you draw your own conclusions.
:lmao: :lmao: that's a great post....
 

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