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Taylor Mays Auction? (1 Viewer)

Terpman22

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Weird couple of days in SF. Bay Area teams are f'd right now. I don't get this latest move. After failing to re-sign Franklin, now they post basically "Taylor Mays OTB" with a mass email to all 31 other teams? I like the kid a lot and maybe he is raw, but I think with the right coaching, this is a prospect you would want on your roster(Dallas anyone?). Just weird, I guess...

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter

49ers sent out a mass email this afternoon to teams around the league to try and trade safety Taylor Mays.

 
I have faith in Harbaugh and the direction this team is moving. No issues with this move if they feel it's necessary.

 
Mays' own college coach didn't seem interested during the draft, so this comes at no shock.

 
Mays' own college coach didn't seem interested during the draft, so this comes at no shock.
His college coach took a more talented safety earlier in the draft than.mays should have been taken. this statement doesn't say anything except that taylor mays isnt as good as earl thomas, which I dont think was ever really debated.Though this does bring up serious questions about either mays or harbough....
 
Mays' own college coach didn't seem interested during the draft, so this comes at no shock.
His college coach took a more talented safety earlier in the draft than.mays should have been taken. this statement doesn't say anything except that taylor mays isnt as good as earl thomas, which I dont think was ever really debated.Though this does bring up serious questions about either mays or harbough....
This. The real issue is the mass email. Why?
 
I haven't seen Mays in the NFL enough to have any opinion from my own observations. Went looking for articles on him and found this one that talked about practice habits (which sounded good) and about his shortcomings (liability in coverage): http://bleacherreport.com/articles/700341-san-francisco-49ers-does-taylor-mays-have-a-future-with-the-niners

Just speculating, but maybe with the downgrade at CB they decided they need better cover safeties?

Taylor Mays has an unparalleled combination of size and speed. He's amongst the biggest safeties in the league and you would be hard pressed to find a safety with his athleticism.

Mays is a ferocious hitter and a former All-American. So what's the problem? Mays looks lost on the field at times, especially in coverage.

Mays has shortcomings, but he's only in his second year. It's far too early to completely write him off, especially with his potential.

Don't forget, Mays is a Trent Baalke guy. A new regime is taking over in San Fran, but Baalke's presence means he isn't going to be completely discounted.

Secondary coach Ed Donatell recently spoke to Matt Maioccco and had this to say about Mays, "He got some valuable playing time. I see a lot of traits. He should spike in this system."

Mays is still very raw, but he isn't lazy. Mike Singletary heralded him last season as one of those guys who was constantly asking questions. His desire to have a better understanding should compensate for his mental lapses on the field.

Mays is built to be a safety in the box. Even if his shortcomings in coverage make him useless in over the top coverage, he is impressive against the run. He comes downhill and could be a force in the middle if they choose to use him as such.

He played a position that doesn't even exist in the NFL while he was at USC. He played center field safety, but played obnoxiously far back. His job was to dissect plays and his speed allowed him to make up the extra yardage.

He played somewhat of a glorified middle linebacker position, which made his transition to the NFL a bit difficult.

He is more than a special teams hero though. Mays can be a contributor and could be the future strong safety of the Niners. He's got a lot of guys in his corner, including 49ers' legend Ronnie Lott, who has taken Mays under his wing.

Mays is actually going to get coaching, unlike his rookie season. He's got the "hit people in the mouth" mindset down. Now it's time to start acting like a defensive back.

He has all the tools to be an All-Pro. Whether or not he is going to evolve into that is impossible to say, but it is way too early to start writing off Mays.

Like Anthony Davis, he was trusted onto the field by an overzealous Mike Singletary staff. He has an incredible high ceiling, but they knew he was a project when they drafted him. He didn't have the impact Earl Thomas did as a rookie, but he has unlimited potential.
 
Brutal. Very bush league, and it robs you of your trade leverage unless you get very lucky and can get at least two teams to bite on a bidding war, which seems unlikely for Mays.

Taylor Mays available on craigslist? Well ...

By Mike Sando

Quite a few San Francisco 49ers fans have asked where Taylor Mays fits in the team's plans.

We might have our answer from ESPN's Adam Schefter.

According to Schefter, the 49ers sent out an email to all teams declaring Mays as available for trade.

This is not standard operating procedure and reflects poorly on the 49ers, in my view. It's certainly no way to create value in the market. If everyone knows a player is expendable, everyone can wait for the team to replace that player. I've reached out to the 49ers for comment on this one and will keep you apprised.

Mays was a second-round draft choice from USC in 2010 and possesses undeniable raw physical talent. Mays started six games as a rookie. He made an incredible play against Atlanta, scoring a touchdown on a blocked punt, but his instincts for the safety position have been in question dating to his days at USC.

The 49ers are not particularly deep at safety. They did sign veteran Madieu Williams in free agency. The memo regarding Mays could reflect a belief internally that Dashon Goldson is close to re-signing.

I'm anxious to hear the 49ers' side of this story.
 
Don't forget, Mays is a Trent Baalke guy. A new regime is taking over in San Fran, but Baalke's presence means he isn't going to be completely discounted.
Matt Barrows just threw up a blog post suggesting that Baalke was strongarmed by Singletary into taking Mays in the first place. Apparently the two were caught on video arguing right before they made that pick. I'm not so sure Mays is a "Baalke guy".
 
WTF is San Fran doing? Trying to get rid of a player they shouldn't have drafted in the first place.

He wasn't a great player in college, just a huge safety. He didn't make any plays in college, no idea why people thought he would make them in the pros.

 
WTF is San Fran doing? Trying to get rid of a player they shouldn't have drafted in the first place. He wasn't a great player in college, just a huge safety. He didn't make any plays in college, no idea why people thought he would make them in the pros.
No. the problem is the mass email makes the niners lose all their leverage. It signifies incompetence.
 
Mays like the rest of the SC defense were great because they were superior athletes. He came in as a liability in pass coverage and continues to be so and he does not have the instincts or the skill set to play OLB in their scheme.

I don't have a problem with them sending this email out prior to his release...makes sense to get the word out.

 
SF signed donte whitner, which contradicts what whitner said....you know about being signes by the bengals...but this makes some sense about why they put mays on the block.

 
WTF is San Fran doing? Trying to get rid of a player they shouldn't have drafted in the first place.

He wasn't a great player in college, just a huge safety. He didn't make any plays in college, no idea why people thought he would make them in the pros.
No. the problem is the mass email makes the niners lose all their leverage. It signifies incompetence.
There's no secrets when someone is being shopped. Whether the info gets out there in an email, or front office guys calling each other, or reading it off PFT, everyone knows. San Fran had no leverage in the first place. When you say, "Hey, our 2nd round pick from last year is on the block", you have no leverage. Every team does this, they offer a guy around, seeing if they can get anything for him, before stashing him on IR, or cutting him. This is news because it is 'Taylor Mays.' I don't think this signifies anything, other than San Fran doesn't think too much of Taylor Mays.

 
Pats have offered their 2015 and 2018 7th round selections
LOL. Even if he is a liability right now, there is a system somewhere that hopefully will be a good fit for him. His measureables are off the charts - just needs a coach to get it out of him I guess...or he is just a complete bust.
 
I wonder, was there any benefit the 49ers would have gotten if they had managed to execute a trade before the new league year officially started at 4pm? Something like having his salary cap hit be split between the 2010 uncapped year and the 2011 cap?

That might explain why they'd do a mass email, if so. I'm purely speculating on my own though.

 
They must really not like him. They cite his poor coverage skills as why they want to move him, but then they sign whitner to replace him, who is also pretty bad in coverage

 
You people are being ridiculous. How does this cause them to lose leverage? If he's got any potential more than one team will show interest. If he's not someone with any upside none will inquire. They can take out a full page ad in every paper across the nation and it won't affect his trade value too much.

If for whatever reason they feel he's not a good fit or someone who has big upside then it's best to get rid of him quickly and move on.

 
WTF is San Fran doing? Trying to get rid of a player they shouldn't have drafted in the first place. He wasn't a great player in college, just a huge safety. He didn't make any plays in college, no idea why people thought he would make them in the pros.
No. the problem is the mass email makes the niners lose all their leverage. It signifies incompetence.
You are both right - they drafted a guy who was over-drafted based on the fact that he was both a specimen but also very stiff and raw, and was a product of a divided draft room so they are looking to move on and re-coup a pick for him, but went about it in the wrong way.It made me laugh, as they approached it the same way that some of my league mates do - the ones who send out a mass email saying that they are shopping a player (usually after some negative news breaks and drops the player's value) and can't figure out why they are mocked by the more savvy owners and can't figure out why nobody will give them what they want in return for the player they are shopping. Ahhh, the sweet smell of desperation...lol
 
Mays, Whitner and the 49ers' secondary

By Mike Sando

Thoughts after the San Francisco 49ers reached agreement with veteran safety Donte Whitner while letting other teams know strong safety Taylor Mays could be had via trade:

[*]Mays would have remained in the team's plans to this point had Mike Singletary remained head coach. Singletary was invested in Mays. The team had Ronnie Lott reach out to Mays right away. Kenny Easley was another great safety the team held up as an example to follow. Priorities and values change when staffs change. This doesn't necessarily mean the 49ers erred when they drafted Mays. It means they erred when they hired Singletary, and Mays is a casualty of the fallout.

[*]Adding Whitner and fellow veteran safety Madieu Williams gives the 49ers a new look in the secondary, particularly with cornerback Carlos Rogers signing as well. Again, staff changes lead to player changes. The new staff in San Francisco obviously wasn't comfortable committing big money for holdover players. Feelings have probably been hurt along the way. Nate Clements, Takeo Spikes and Aubrayo Franklin are among those who bolted. A lack of continuity has hurt the 49ers on offense previously. It's hurting their defense right now.

[*]The 49ers' handling of the Mays situation -- sending out an email to teams -- seemed unusual and clumsy. Whether the player and/or agent were contacted first matters as we evaluate how the 49ers handled this situation. I would think the 49ers kept Mays' camp in the loop. I do not know this. With some fans already uneasy over the front office's handling of free agency, a move that appears clumsy resonates in a negative way. It is possible teams send out memos like this from time to time. I reached out to a couple teams and they said this was not typical in their experience.

[*]None of this should overshadow the fact that the 49ers are giving up on a player they drafted in the second round only one year ago.

OK, time is running short here. About to head out to Arizona Cardinals practice.
 
Funny, Mays only highlight from last year was a perfect snapshot of him as a football player: jumping in the air in the endzone to effortlessly catch a blocked punt on it's way out of the endzone, then successfully landing with both feet in bounds for a TD.

A freak play by a freak athlete, but has nothing to do with the 99% of everything else it takes to play football.

I watched this guy at USC a ton and my buddy & me would always laugh at the Taylor Mays hype because we literally never saw him make a play.

He'll make a great personal trainer though.

 

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