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So Antonio Bryant looks like he'll be leaving via free agency.

That leaves Michael Clayton, who I think we can safely assume at this point will never be a fantasy factor again, Maurice Stovall, and Sammie Stroughter, who looked quite good at times last season.

I assume they draft or sign a FA to come in and compete, but there should still be an opportunity for one of the guys already on the team.

Between Maurice Stovall and Stroughter, who would you bet on? I know Stovall is a RFA but he's expected to be signed. I'm talking deep dynasty leagues here. Any TB homers want to chime in? Anyone I'm overlooking?

 
I'm thinking that stroughter will be the guy in tampa bay...stovall has been in the league for a few years and should've emerged by now

 
I wonder if the Broncos would accept a high 2nd rounder for Marshall?

I'm sure Marshall would love to get back to his college area.

 
FTRWRTR said:
I'm thinking that stroughter will be the guy in tampa bay...stovall has been in the league for a few years and should've emerged by now
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You can't expect any sort of WR to emerge with who is throwing the ball in Tampa. I am not a fan of Stovall, but it's not fair to conclude that with him yet
 
phthalatemagic said:
FTRWRTR said:
I'm thinking that stroughter will be the guy in tampa bay...stovall has been in the league for a few years and should've emerged by now
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You can't expect any sort of WR to emerge with who is throwing the ball in Tampa. I am not a fan of Stovall, but it's not fair to conclude that with him yet
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I think Freeman looked great at QB after starting week 9. I'm not a TB fan, but Freeman is their future at QB.
 
triple_f said:
phthalatemagic said:
FTRWRTR said:
I'm thinking that stroughter will be the guy in tampa bay...stovall has been in the league for a few years and should've emerged by now
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You can't expect any sort of WR to emerge with who is throwing the ball in Tampa. I am not a fan of Stovall, but it's not fair to conclude that with him yet
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I think Freeman looked great at QB after starting week 9. I'm not a TB fan, but Freeman is their future at QB.
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He did.That favreco guy was bashing him all year. Nice to see he's not giving up the shtick in the off-season.
 
Sigmund Bloom said:
Kellen Winslowalso lots of Ward and Williams as receivers out of the backfield.
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:goodposting: KW is pretty high on my list in redraft. Freeman is going to be a decent QB, struggles at times of course but the kid showed a LOT more potential than I gave him credit for before the season. Wouldn't surprise me at all, in time, if he were the top QB from that draft which includes Stafford and Sanchez.
 
FUBAR said:
Sigmund Bloom said:
Kellen Winslowalso lots of Ward and Williams as receivers out of the backfield.
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:thumbup: KW is pretty high on my list in redraft. Freeman is going to be a decent QB, struggles at times of course but the kid showed a LOT more potential than I gave him credit for before the season. Wouldn't surprise me at all, in time, if he were the top QB from that draft which includes Stafford and Sanchez.
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:goodposting: Freeman showed tons of competitiveness and creativity, way more dangerous as a runner than he was given credit for and not overwhelmed by the game at all. He just needs to tighten up his mechanics and get some consistent WRs to throw to. One thing I loved was his willingness to throw to bryant when he was covered and let Bryant make the play. I hope TB brings Bryant back simply because it looked like there was a good thing brewing there. Freeman and KWII riffed very well, Winslow adjusted to Freeman's bullets and moved the chains. Remember this team beat the world champ Saints when they were still playing all of their starters for the whole game.
 
FUBAR said:
Sigmund Bloom said:
Kellen Winslowalso lots of Ward and Williams as receivers out of the backfield.
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:ninja: KW is pretty high on my list in redraft. Freeman is going to be a decent QB, struggles at times of course but the kid showed a LOT more potential than I gave him credit for before the season. Wouldn't surprise me at all, in time, if he were the top QB from that draft which includes Stafford and Sanchez.
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:thumbup: also Freeman was a young rookie QB, only 21 last season. LOTS of upside with him, especially with the rushing bonus.
 
Capella said:
triple_f said:
phthalatemagic said:
FTRWRTR said:
I'm thinking that stroughter will be the guy in tampa bay...stovall has been in the league for a few years and should've emerged by now
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You can't expect any sort of WR to emerge with who is throwing the ball in Tampa. I am not a fan of Stovall, but it's not fair to conclude that with him yet
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I think Freeman looked great at QB after starting week 9. I'm not a TB fan, but Freeman is their future at QB.
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He did.That favreco guy was bashing him all year. Nice to see he's not giving up the shtick in the off-season.
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What I like about Freeman is that he's massive. Hopefully he can absorb the punishment. I know Waldman likened him to McNair and if he turned out that good, I'm sure Tampa would be happy with that. If he the biggest starting QB in the league right now?
 
Sabertooth said:
Capella said:
triple_f said:
phthalatemagic said:
FTRWRTR said:
I'm thinking that stroughter will be the guy in tampa bay...stovall has been in the league for a few years and should've emerged by now
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You can't expect any sort of WR to emerge with who is throwing the ball in Tampa. I am not a fan of Stovall, but it's not fair to conclude that with him yet
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I think Freeman looked great at QB after starting week 9. I'm not a TB fan, but Freeman is their future at QB.
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He did.That favreco guy was bashing him all year. Nice to see he's not giving up the shtick in the off-season.
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What I like about Freeman is that he's massive. Hopefully he can absorb the punishment. I know Waldman likened him to McNair and if he turned out that good, I'm sure Tampa would be happy with that. If he the biggest starting QB in the league right now?
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Yea he's big and can pull it down and run. He ran over a few linebackers last year.I don't know if he's bigger than Big Ben (not going to try and spell the last name) in Pitt, but I imagine it's close.
 
Capella said:
Yea he's big and can pull it down and run. He ran over a few linebackers last year.I don't know if he's bigger than Big Ben (not going to try and spell the last name) in Pitt, but I imagine it's close.
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the scary thing is that he's as big and powerful as Ben but can also run.I'm not a Tampa fan but i think they found a great QB.
 
moderated said:
Capella said:
Yea he's big and can pull it down and run. He ran over a few linebackers last year.I don't know if he's bigger than Big Ben (not going to try and spell the last name) in Pitt, but I imagine it's close.
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the scary thing is that he's as big and powerful as Ben but can also run.I'm not a Tampa fan but i think they found a great QB.
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I do too. Very, very excited to see what he brings next year. Full offseason in the same offense with the same coach as the #1 qb...should be exciting. Guy did all of that last year with almost no training camp or in-season reps (before he got the job).
 
Oh, as for the thread...I don't think Tampa's #1 WR is currently on the roster. Almost no chance Bryant or Clayton comes back. I think they will spend one of their 2nd-round picks on a wideout, and then sign someone under the radar in free-agency. Stroughter will also get a lot more reps (he was really good as a rookie).

 
They have their franchise qb and they are pretty good at the tackle positions. I'd like to see them draft a playmaker in the secondary, Eric Berry or trade down a bit and take Bryant. They're actually in quite a nice position having got the qb last year.

 
gianmarco said:
Is it me or does TB seem like a franchise with 0 direction right now?
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I can see where you would think that, considering they fired both their OC and DC before the year even ended (or started in the OCs case). But when Morris took over the playcalling duties as the DC, you saw a shift primarily back to the Tampa Two, which will be the defense's focus from here on out.The offense is being built around Freeman. I think you will see more tools added for him in the draft. The primary focus last year was to get younger. They got rid of Brooks, Garcia, June, Galloway, Hilliard and Dunn, all of whom contributed nothing to any other team. From those 6, 3 long-term starters appear to have shown up in Geno Hayes at WLB (really came on once they went back to the T2), Josh Freeman at QB and Stroughter at WR. Quincy Black replaced June and did a so-so job, but they had to figure out what they had with him.As noted, they did beat the Super Bowl Champs, on the road, in a game the Saints were trying to win to lock up home-field. So, things did improve in the second half of the season.
 
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Sabertooth said:
Why wouldn't Bryant be back? Is there bad blood there or something?
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Did a lot of #####ing about a lack of catches in the second-half of the year, when the team was trying to break in an inexperienced QB who had limited reps. Apparently it didn't go over well; they were hoping he could be somewhat of a leader. The word is he is worthless in the locker room and they aren't going to put up with it.
 
I recall him being a head case coming out of college. Sounds like he may just be a prima donna. That doesn't mean he can't produce though. It should be interesting to see what happens with him.

 
I like Freeman and thought he showed a lot of potential and perseverance for someone who was rushed into starting, but it's worth noting that he had 7 td's/5 int's in his first 4 starts and then 3 td's/13 int's in his next 5 starts. Is that indicative of the typical struggles of a rookie qb without a ton of talent around him or is it the league catching up to him once they had a chance to watch more film and game plan around him? In any case, I do like him but would keep my expectations in check for 2010. In terms of who the leading WR wil be, most likely someone they bring in, although I wouldn't expect anything better than borderline WR4 numbers from any WR on the roster this year.

 
TS Garp said:
I like Freeman and thought he showed a lot of potential and perseverance for someone who was rushed into starting, but it's worth noting that he had 7 td's/5 int's in his first 4 starts and then 3 td's/13 int's in his next 5 starts. Is that indicative of the typical struggles of a rookie qb
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Yes. Especially this year: Freeman: 10 td, 18 int, 10 games, 54.5% comp rateStafford: 13 td 20 int, 10 games, 53.3% comp rateSanchez: 12 td, 20 int, 15 games, 53.8% comp rateHis biggest problem was his tendency to force the ball. That's not uncommon. He also showed a lot of poise and patience, so there's plenty of reasons to be optimistic. He may not be awesome in 2010, but really, not many sophomore quarterbacks are.
 
Capella said:
Sabertooth said:
Why wouldn't Bryant be back? Is there bad blood there or something?
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Did a lot of #####ing about a lack of catches in the second-half of the year, when the team was trying to break in an inexperienced QB who had limited reps. Apparently it didn't go over well; they were hoping he could be somewhat of a leader. The word is he is worthless in the locker room and they aren't going to put up with it.
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Also bryant was already upset with them because the bucs did the smart thing and franchised him instead of giving him a long term deal like he wanted
 
Yes, I think Freeman has the potential to be a very good NFL QB but he needs weapons around him to do that. Bryant is ######ed. He's not going to go somewhere else and be the #1 WR on a team and he should have realized that. Can he repair his standing in TB, possible, but he'll have to work hard at it and he should be doing that right now if he wants to be the #1 WR on the team. I don't see it happening although anything's possible. Freeman's development will be slowed somewhat if he doesn't have decent receivers to throw to so it'll be interesting to see what Tampa Bay does during FA and the draft. If they're going to be a successful team they'll need to get Freeman the weapons he needs to succeed.

 
One guy that they can bring back as an RFA that we havent mentioned yet is Mark Bradley, inconsistent, but explosive at times for KC, lots of physical talent, as good as long shot as anyone outside of Stroughter on the roster.

 
I'd love to see them sign RFA Lance Moore from the Saints. Solid possession WR. Not sure what level the Saints are tendering him though, and they have the right to match obviously.

 
Sigmund Bloom said:
One guy that they can bring back as an RFA that we havent mentioned yet is Mark Bradley, inconsistent, but explosive at times for KC, lots of physical talent, as good as long shot as anyone outside of Stroughter on the roster.
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I'll bet all of on this board have wasted roster space on Bradley at one time or another. A perennial tease. Hard to imagine him suddenly becoming valuable after 5 seasons of hope and then disappointment.
 
Capella said:
Very, very excited to see what he brings next year. Full offseason in the same offense with the same coach as the #1 qb...should be exciting. Guy did all of that last year with almost no training camp or in-season reps (before he got the job).
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:yucky: Remember, TB played musical chairs with Byron Leftwich and Luke McCown during training camp and then finally named Leftwich the starter. Josh Freeman didn't get many chances during this time.Then Leftwich started the first 3 games of the season, with Josh Johnson starting the next 4 games, and finally Josh Freeman was given a chance to learn on the job. While he was inconsistent at first, I think playing in those games and being able to continue the learning process during the offseason will set him up for some higher expectations in 2010.
 
Mort on Twitter, confirms that Bryant is not coming back: "Raheem Morris tells Bucs beat reporters than WR Antonio Bryant's career in Tampa 'is over.'"

 
If they don't land a #1 in FA I think they need to seriously consider drafting Dez Bryant at #3. There isn't a guy on the Bucs roster that could be a legitimate #2 on any other team in the league.

 
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Obviously they are going to pick up somebody, somewhere, but Stroughter will (very) likely go into the year as the #2 guy.

Bryant punched his ticket out of town a long time ago. Somebody is going to give him a huge deal, and then almost instantly regret it.

 
Capella said:
Obviously they are going to pick up somebody, somewhere, but Stroughter will (very) likely go into the year as the #2 guy.Bryant punched his ticket out of town a long time ago. Somebody is going to give him a huge deal, and then almost instantly regret it.
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I don't think he will get that big of a contract due to the injuries. He may be better off signing another 1 year deal so he can get Gruden to sign him when he returns.
 
Someone could really emerge next year and have some fantasy value in TB. There will be enough targets for a WR to do fine, but right now that is a sad bunch of WR's.

 
<----- Tampa native, longtime Bucs fanatic, longtime Fantasy Football entusiast.

Stovall, not the guy. He has potential to be (given the right situation, which he is in right now because of a lack of other options in TB) a servicable #3 WR (not FF). From my perception, both live (at both practice & games) and watching every game... he just does not have it. He has no explosion out of his breaks, seems to telegraph his routes and seems to lack focus when the ball comes his way, by that I mean he seems to have decent/good hands but doesn't have the "it" factor when fighting for the ball. Very good athlete (tangibles), very average football player (intangibles). Everyone knows FF players and NFL players in general are a direct product of opportunity... he has his, my bet.... he makes nothing of it. He's just not that good.

Sammy, my bet is here. He has enough of the tangibles to comepete well at this level and has really looked pretty explosive coming out of his breaks on the patterns that he has been assigned. More importantly, he has the intangibles IMO. It's there. I think he has the fire in his belly. If he can stop his problems with depression & personal issue from extingusing that fire... this is your guy. Well he's mine. Lets's put it this way, I have 5 DEEP dynasty teams. I own stovall in 1 (waivers). I have made it a priority from day 1 to aquire Sammy in all 5 of the others.

Clayton, this has been covered ad nausium (spelling sucks, sue me). He sucks as a FF player period. Has some value to a football team for the non-stat things he does... that's it.

~D4\/\/G~

 
Is there a team deep enough at WR (like ATL in 2008) that could possibly trade a 3rd or 4th WR with potential (like Laurent Robinson) to TB? I guess Miami is loaded with four WR2/3 types in Bess, Hartline, Ginn and Camarillo that they could make a trade (and we all know Parcells likes his extra picks). Just a thought, but no reason one of those guys could not step in and be the WR2.

 
QUEZILLA said:
If they don't land a #1 in FA I think they need to seriously consider drafting Dez Bryant at #3. There isn't a guy on the Bucs roster that could be a legitimate #2 on any other team in the league.
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If McCoy or Suh are there at #3 and they take a ####ing wideout, I'm becoming a Tuskers fan.You don't build a great franchise on the back of wideouts taken in the top-3.
 
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