TD-only leagues (1 Viewer)

[gruecd]

In additional to my regular "performance" leagues, I'm still part of an old school "Miller Lite" TD-only fantasy league. We get nothing for yardage--only TDs with bonuses for longer TDs and "out-of-position" TDs as follows:

0- to 9-yard TD = 6 points

9- to 39-yard TD = 9 points

40+ = 12 points

Double points for rushing/receiving TD by QB, for passing/receiving TD for RB, and for passing/rushing TD for WR.

So when Randle El throws a 42-yard TD pass to Portis, it's 24 points each. Obviously, guys like Vick, Tomlinson, and Brian Westbrook are especially valuable in this type of league. So are QBs in general, along with WRs whose teams feature the vertical passing game.

Is anybody else still doing this type of league?

 

[Skinsfansince72]

In additional to my regular "performance" leagues, I'm still part of an old school "Miller Lite" TD-only fantasy league. We get nothing for yardage--only TDs with bonuses for longer TDs and "out-of-position" TDs as follows:

0- to 9-yard TD = 6 points

9- to 39-yard TD = 9 points

40+ = 12 points

Double points for rushing/receiving TD by QB, for passing/receiving TD for RB, and for passing/rushing TD for WR.

So when Randle El throws a 42-yard TD pass to Portis, it's 24 points each. Obviously, guys like Vick, Tomlinson, and Brian Westbrook are especially valuable in this type of league. So are QBs in general, along with WRs whose teams feature the vertical passing game.

Is anybody else still doing this type of league?

I've been in the exact same type of league since 1990. Still have the Miller Lite add that they were giving out in bars(complete with rules). We added a yardage bonus of 3 points per hundred rushing/receiving and for 300 yards passing(+3 pts for each additional 100 yards passing).Not too many people still playing this but it's a nice change from the standard leagues.

We even found a good website that will support the scoring system(webleaguemanager.com).

 

[Draftnik]

Uh, are you in my league? This describes my main local league to a tee. What is the "Miller Light" reference? Was this scoring system part of some old school fantasy game that had a Miller Light promotional tie in?

My league is 17 or 18 years old and still has a strong nucleus of the original owners. At 10 years in the league, I'm still relatively green among the owners. I don't particularly like the scoring system and lobby to change it at least once a year, but I can never seem to muster enough voting support to change it. Since I tend to finish in the money, and we play for decent stakes (16 teams, $250 buy in, $1700 to the winner), I just suck it up and get my performance kicks in a league at work.

A couple of things I have noticed over the years with this type of scoring.

* With the exception of the very few guys like SA who score in the 20 TD range and those who are scoring threats through the air (like a Faulk in his prime), RB's tend to be overvalued.

* Scoring variance is wide. Because you can win with as little as 30 points in a week and you can lose with as many as 80, players who score consistently are very desirable, which puts a premium on the upper tier QB's and PK's. I tend to "cheat up" on both of these positions, relative to ADP data and FBG recommendations.

* Draft Dominator and the VBD app take the scoring format into account, but the draft plays out much differently than the player pool rankings that DD produces (I have used DD for the last 2 years only), so you really have to take the recommended player with a grain of salt and you have to have a keen sense of the drafting tendencies of your leaguemates.

 

[Skinsfansince72]

Uh, are you in my league? This describes my main local league to a tee. What is the "Miller Light" reference? Was this scoring system part of some old school fantasy game that had a Miller Light promotional tie in?My league is 17 or 18 years old and still has a strong nucleus of the original owners. At 10 years in the league, I'm still relatively green among the owners. I don't particularly like the scoring system and lobby to change it at least once a year, but I can never seem to muster enough voting support to change it. Since I tend to finish in the money, and we play for decent stakes (16 teams, $250 buy in, $1700 to the winner), I just suck it up and get my performance kicks in a league at work.A couple of things I have noticed over the years with this type of scoring. * With the exception of the very few guys like SA who score in the 20 TD range and those who are scoring threats through the air (like a Faulk in his prime), RB's tend to be overvalued.* Scoring variance is wide. Because you can win with as little as 30 points in a week and you can lose with as many as 80, players who score consistently are very desirable, which puts a premium on the upper tier QB's and PK's. I tend to "cheat up" on both of these positions, relative to ADP data and FBG recommendations.* Draft Dominator and the VBD app take the scoring format into account, but the draft plays out much differently than the player pool rankings that DD produces (I have used DD for the last 2 years only), so you really have to take the recommended player with a grain of salt and you have to have a keen sense of the drafting tendencies of your leaguemates.

I'm on the east coast and we only have 14 teams. Funny that the cash you put up is the same (250). We pay out 25 per week for high of the week. And another 200 for most total points. 6 teams make the playoffs.And yes, Miller Lite had a promo way back when and that's where these rules come from.Like you, I've had to convert the rankings from various we sites and mags to fit our scoring system.Not too difficult. Rb's are definitely not what you need to have in the 1st round. BUT, you aren't toast if you go that route. Last year I took LT and didn't take a qb until the 3rd. Usually a good idea to take a qb with one of your first two picks though. Seems that the top at all 3 positions go in the first round. After that, anything can happen. So many different ways to win this. D is also a big factor. Getting 12-24 points per def/special teams score makes it worth getting one of the good ones early(by round 4).

 

[Draftnik]

I'm on the east coast and we only have 14 teams. Funny that the cash you put up is the same (250). We pay out 25 per week for high of the week. And another 200 for most total points. 6 teams make the playoffs.And yes, Miller Lite had a promo way back when and that's where these rules come from.Like you, I've had to convert the rankings from various we sites and mags to fit our scoring system.Not too difficult. Rb's are definitely not what you need to have in the 1st round. BUT, you aren't toast if you go that route. Last year I took LT and didn't take a qb until the 3rd. Usually a good idea to take a qb with one of your first two picks though. Seems that the top at all 3 positions go in the first round. After that, anything can happen. So many different ways to win this. D is also a big factor. Getting 12-24 points per def/special teams score makes it worth getting one of the good ones early(by round 4).

Interesting about your defenses. How does a D/ST get awarded double points in your league? We don't do that; just the 6/9/12 based on the length of the scoring play. Since DTD's are relatively rare and hard to forecast, I really sleep on defenses in favor of depth at RB/WR, positions I feel have more impact.

 

[Skinsfansince72]

I'm on the east coast and we only have 14 teams. Funny that the cash you put up is the same (250). We pay out 25 per week for high of the week. And another 200 for most total points. 6 teams make the playoffs.And yes, Miller Lite had a promo way back when and that's where these rules come from.Like you, I've had to convert the rankings from various we sites and mags to fit our scoring system.Not too difficult. Rb's are definitely not what you need to have in the 1st round. BUT, you aren't toast if you go that route. Last year I took LT and didn't take a qb until the 3rd. Usually a good idea to take a qb with one of your first two picks though. Seems that the top at all 3 positions go in the first round. After that, anything can happen. So many different ways to win this. D is also a big factor. Getting 12-24 points per def/special teams score makes it worth getting one of the good ones early(by round 4).

Interesting about your defenses. How does a D/ST get awarded double points in your league? We don't do that; just the 6/9/12 based on the length of the scoring play. Since DTD's are relatively rare and hard to forecast, I really sleep on defenses in favor of depth at RB/WR, positions I feel have more impact.

Based on the old Miller Lite rules, D/st scores are 12/18/24 depending on distance. Acts as sort of a wild card. You're right though. Very difficult to predict scoring. Sometimes a d can be awesome and not score very much. We added a twist to d scoring as well. shut out gets you 24. 1-9 points scored against gets you 12 and 10-17 points scored against gets you 6. 18-39 gets you nothing. And if they give up 40 or more, you get minus 6. I wouldn't worry about changing your league rules. We were toying with the idea a few years ago but decided to tweak the rules a bit instead. Plenty of other leagues to join that are more conventional. Nothing wrong with being in at least one league that's different. Your league, like mine, has guys who have been in this type of scoring system for quite some time. Everything they know about FF is probably based on looking at players with this system in mind. Easier to just join another league than to change the existing one. I'm not going to get into a debate about which is better. I think that's up to the individuals in the league to decide. I will say that there is a good case to be made for td only leagues. Thankfully I don't have to choose between the two basic formats(td only and performance). I simply join another league if I want a different type of action.

 

[gruecd]

Good to hear that I'm not the only one still doing this.

I draft 6th in my 8-man league this year, so I figure the top 5 will likely be Manning, LT2, Alexander, LJ, and someone else. I'd contemplate taking a QB at #6, but there's no clear-cut #2 after Manning. I might actually take Westbrook in the 1st if he's healthy; receiving TDs by RBs are gold. Planning on taking the top WR in the 2nd, then Gates in the 3rd and another WR in the 4th.

 

[FairWarning]

I'm in a Yardage-Only league.

 

[Maelstrom]

A guy at work still runs a 14 or 16 team TD-only (I think there are a few 3 point bonuses for 100 point game/300 point game) league. Still running it on paper also. Ton of players on each team - 3/5/5/2/2/2 plus coach and some defense (1 or 2). You can only carry one backup per position.

I was in it for a while, and then got out to run my own performance-based work league.

 

[ggggh7]

Thought I would mark this thread.

I am also in a "miller lite" scoring league. Funny how the buy in is the same amount ,250$. Been playing for 18 years.

I find this scoring is just about Fun. TD are "more" unpredictable. (if that makes sense)

Usually I just take westbrook in the first round.

Some things our league has added. Punt returns are always double points. Def also receives the points.

Def scores are doubled 12/18/24, Def receives 12 points for a shutout, and one point for turnover caused.

yardage is not position specific ,anything over 100 is 3 points. also added increments of 50 yard blocks that are equal to one point. QB start at 300 yards passing. And doubled if a rb gets over 100yds receiving.. ect ect..

2pt conversions are always 2 pts

we are thinking of adding a flex . rb/wr/te

The strategy, It depends on Knowing the other drafters, usually cheetsheets are geared toward yardage leagues. this can be used nicely...this is not news, still it surprises me each draft.

of course I do my own cheetsheet, but I like looking at ppr cheetsheets as checklist .

One thing I do use, for ADP is the fantasy index cheetsheet. seem most of the owners in my league subscribe to this . So it is fairly easy to target players.

Players I target. are the athletic multipurpose wr/rb

funny how when I took Randle el in the 5th two or three years ago everyone was surprised.

D hall usually pays off also.

Side note. about 10 years ago we did away with head to head as the big prize. Went total points for the 1200 payout. We still have a superbowl but only for 100$.

While I think this scoring can be more lucky? than yardage. I like it. and will not change, We just added a yardage league to complement.

With that said, I have been top 3 the last 5 years. I think this has to do with leaguemates , more than my personal skill.

Also..I think Dobbs is deserved a big Thanks for the excel cheetsheet still being based on distance scoring. This feature is a life saver when converting my projections.

 

[Skinsfansince72]

Good to hear that I'm not the only one still doing this.I draft 6th in my 8-man league this year, so I figure the top 5 will likely be Manning, LT2, Alexander, LJ, and someone else. I'd contemplate taking a QB at #6, but there's no clear-cut #2 after Manning. I might actually take Westbrook in the 1st if he's healthy; receiving TDs by RBs are gold. Planning on taking the top WR in the 2nd, then Gates in the 3rd and another WR in the 4th.

I'd be interested in checking out your rankings. My draft for this league is still a couple of weeks off. Westbrook went in the 2nd round of our draft last year(14 team league). Yea, I had Lt (also had LJ. and Lamont.No chance for that combo this year) last year. His td throws won me two games. You are right though. It's all about consistent points. As far as QB goes, I like manning in the 1st. After that I thinking of just waiting until the 4th or 5th round and picking 2 in a row.

 

[ggggh7]

Good to hear that I'm not the only one still doing this.I draft 6th in my 8-man league this year, so I figure the top 5 will likely be Manning, LT2, Alexander, LJ, and someone else. I'd contemplate taking a QB at #6, but there's no clear-cut #2 after Manning. I might actually take Westbrook in the 1st if he's healthy; receiving TDs by RBs are gold. Planning on taking the top WR in the 2nd, then Gates in the 3rd and another WR in the 4th.

If i get later than the 3rd pick. LT/LJ/SA are locks. Manning? Dont know, he went number on last year. So I am looking at my league being gunshy , but i could be wrong.now, my personal preference is Westbrook, at any spot in the first. Last year i would have taken him at three.But, this year I am having to concider portis, the offence, and portis can throw, and rec well.I dont think Portis, RBrown, CW, would not be bad choices. but westbrook has been gold. REGGIE BUSH, hahhaha.. yea if i dont get westbrook, I might just pull the trigger.QB I am on the watch of, Is DCarr. seems he might run some tds in this year. But he is more of a late 2nd QB choice.

 

[Brewdaddyff]

I joined a a 14 year old TD only league 5 years ago. I Became Commish last year and did the only right thing this year!

Sucessfully convinced everone to switch to performance!

 

[Razon]

Interesting that this type of league is still around and around in numbers.

I will say this, if I had a chance I would join one. Variety is fun.

 

[H.K.]

Interesting that this type of league is still around and around in numbers.I will say this, if I had a chance I would join one. Variety is fun.

I'm in one this year, work league for my new job. Personally, I think its stupid, but why not. My strategy will be to take Manning if available and then three WRs....I'll cobble together a backfield of GL and RBBC guys and see how it works just for shytes and giggles.

 

[Skinsfansince72]

I'm in a Yardage-Only league.

LOL!

 

[Northern Voice]

My local league is TD-only (6 points each, not the 6,9,12 that people are referencing here) and it's easily my favourite league. I love how simple it is. You can get together with the guys in your league and always know exactly what the score is in each game.

 

[Sunday@1]

I am a 11 year commish of a 12 team league with these exact rules. They were "given" to me by a fellow founding member who I believed got them from an old FF rule book. I am glad to know the origin.

As most of the others have stated, we have 8 of the original team owners who all like and understand the rules. The double point scoring is what most complain about when they are on the receiving end. I have yet to hear from anyone when they benefit. This scoring system really makes the QB valuable as well as a RB who catches the ball. Isn't that how it is in the NFL anyway?

I always have explained that that we use the "double point scoring when players score outside of their position" as a bonus system instead of points per catch, sacks, fumbles etc..

This is different from 95% of the rest of FF and I love it. You can make a case that it is centered around "big plays" rather than total yardage.

Honestly, I think the 1 pt for every 10 yards, 1 pt for every 20 yards passing, 3 points FG etc.. boooriiing! I am also in one of these leagues and it is only a BS work league and it isn't nearly as fun.

 

[gruecd]

now, my personal preference is Westbrook, at any spot in the first. Last year i would have taken him at three.But, this year I am having to concider portis, the offence, and portis can throw, and rec well.I dont think Portis, RBrown, CW, would not be bad choices. but westbrook has been gold. REGGIE BUSH, hahhaha.. yea if i dont get westbrook, I might just pull the trigger.QB I am on the watch of, Is DCarr. seems he might run some tds in this year. But he is more of a late 2nd QB choice.

I'm starting to worry about Westbrook. Supposedly it's just a "regular" sprain and not a "Lis Franc sprain" like the one that shelved him for the final four games last year. But now he's been shut down for the entire preseason, which makes it really hard to spend an early-round draft pick on him. Hmmmm....By the way, what makes you think that Carr is suddenly a threat for rushing TDs? In his first four years in the league, he had 3, 2, 0, and 1, respectively. Just curious.

 

[Draftnik]

Interesting that this type of league is still around and around in numbers.I will say this, if I had a chance I would join one. Variety is fun.

I'm in one this year, work league for my new job. Personally, I think its stupid, but why not. My strategy will be to take Manning if available and then three WRs....I'll cobble together a backfield of GL and RBBC guys and see how it works just for shytes and giggles.

I have SA as a keeper (1 year limit in my local), so barring tragedy, I have some tolerance to risk with regard to other RB's. I'm also thinking I'll load up on WR's early. Given all the unsettled backfield situations and the potential season-long RBBC scenarios, I'm thinking this can work out nicely in the TD only format.

 

[tangfoot]

I'm in a Yardage-Only league.

Punting yardage?

 

[Skinsfansince72]

I am a 11 year commish of a 12 team league with these exact rules. They were "given" to me by a fellow founding member who I believed got them from an old FF rule book. I am glad to know the origin.As most of the others have stated, we have 8 of the original team owners who all like and understand the rules. The double point scoring is what most complain about when they are on the receiving end. I have yet to hear from anyone when they benefit. This scoring system really makes the QB valuable as well as a RB who catches the ball. Isn't that how it is in the NFL anyway?I always have explained that that we use the "double point scoring when players score outside of their position" as a bonus system instead of points per catch, sacks, fumbles etc.. This is different from 95% of the rest of FF and I love it. You can make a case that it is centered around "big plays" rather than total yardage.Honestly, I think the 1 pt for every 10 yards, 1 pt for every 20 yards passing, 3 points FG etc.. boooriiing! I am also in one of these leagues and it is only a BS work league and it isn't nearly as fun.

I was wrong about the date. Started in 89. Miller called it "Franchise football".Bars would hand out the rules and run the leagues for customers.

 

[ggggh7]

By the way, what makes you think that Carr is suddenly a threat for rushing TDs? In his first four years in the league, he had 3, 2, 0, and 1, respectively. Just curious.

Yup, Westbrook not playing any more preseason games likely lowers his draft slot. For me also. But maybe he will drop to the second round. In an 8 team league maybe the 3rd. But If he plays 10 games he is still gold in this format.DCarr, 1) low cheetsheet rank2) New coaching staff3) inj to number one rb, DD might just not be right again4) Mould being a vet will affect this offence, coaching is Much betterleading to more goal line opps.Mostly DCarr is athletic, rollouts will be in order. Maybe he tries to turn the corner and dive for some tds?not that I am predicting 9 rushing tds. But Maybe 5, with a possible off upswing ,..17 passing would put him closer to the top qbs in this scoring than he is being ranked.But with some question marks, I see PManning as a good pick, duh,,hahahaDillon/Maroney current ADP is very invitingA ragtag look at my board. ( just to give you an idea what maybe other in your league are thinking)Holt/ RBush / Westbrook/SSmith - Yea Bush has big play potential. thus a year of 4/4 tds puts him close to 120 ptsDillon/Harrison/Fritz - Looks like a safe 10 tds if I can start the NE rb situation correctly.McNabb/Wayne/KJones - QB with inj backfield, WR on a strong offence, a wild card rb taht might see a 8/3 td yearTBell/MBell/DMason - Denver rb will score, I like the headache haha , Mason just a player I like this yearMaroney- talentMJones/Muhamand- big play, Chicago SOSGore- he caught 5 balls in the first preseason game! hahhah...west coast FB- this position is a pass catching rb sometimes. and very very cheap draft pick, or fa pickup , good for 18 to 12 pts if you need a rb to start.regardless. The big 3 rb teams have a huge advantage ,, I feel a drafter must take some chances to overcome this advantage, using all the tools, trades, fa, matchups. Well unless PManning throws for 40 plus tds again.

 

[Draftnik]

A ragtag look at my board. ( just to give you an idea what maybe other in your league are thinking)Holt/ RBush / Westbrook/SSmith - Yea Bush has big play potential. thus a year of 4/4 tds puts him close to 120 ptsDillon/Harrison/Fritz - Looks like a safe 10 tds if I can start the NE rb situation correctly.McNabb/Wayne/KJones - QB with inj backfield, WR on a strong offence, a wild card rb taht might see a 8/3 td yearTBell/MBell/DMason - Denver rb will score, I like the headache haha , Mason just a player I like this yearMaroney- talentMJones/Muhamand- big play, Chicago SOSGore- he caught 5 balls in the first preseason game! hahhah...west coast FB- this position is a pass catching rb sometimes. and very very cheap draft pick, or fa pickup , good for 18 to 12 pts if you need a rb to start.regardless. The big 3 rb teams have a huge advantage ,, I feel a drafter must take some chances to overcome this advantage, using all the tools, trades, fa, matchups. Well unless PManning throws for 40 plus tds again.

I'm interested in many of the same players in similar spots.Of course, I'm going to "let the draft come to me," but based on a few mocks and my gut, I think I'm going to go for top heavy quality at WR early and then look for mid tier quantity at RB. Since my local has no limits on how many players I take at any certain position, I could see myself trying to land a tandem from somewhere like DEN, CAR, or TEN along with a deeper upside pick, like a Mewelde Moore or a Gado. Hopefully, the rest of my league isn't thinking the same way.

 

[Parmcat]

I am also in one of these leagues. It is year 16, and we have most of the original owners that started 16 years ago.

We start:

1QB

3RB

4WR

K

D

Passing TDs ate worth 3, and all rush/reciev TD are 6. Bonuses for distance TDs only.

We keep 3 players from year to year, and a player can only be kept for 5 consecutive years.

I look at it fron this point of view. This is as close as I am going to get to own a franchise. we pay 200.00 (12 team league) I like the TD only scoring, as it is close to real football. Real football games do not reward teams with points for high rush/pass/rec stats. You have to score to win a game.

To think that you can win a game and not have ONE of your players score a TD is a bit odd to me. I also play in performance leagues, but if I had to quit one of them, the TD only league would be the last one I would quit.

Parm

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

I am also in one of these leagues. It is year 16, and we have most of the original owners that started 16 years ago.I like the TD only scoring, as it is close to real football. Real football games do not reward teams with points for high rush/pass/rec stats. You have to score to win a game.To think that you can win a game and not have ONE of your players score a TD is a bit odd to me. I also play in performance leagues, but if I had to quit one of them, the TD only league would be the last one I would quit.Parm

Interesting.

 

[Parmcat]

I am also in one of these leagues. It is year 16, and we have most of the original owners that started 16 years ago.I like the TD only scoring, as it is close to real football. Real football games do not reward teams with points for high rush/pass/rec stats. You have to score to win a game.To think that you can win a game and not have ONE of your players score a TD is a bit odd to me. I also play in performance leagues, but if I had to quit one of them, the TD only league would be the last one I would quit.Parm

Interesting.

Hey Sonny,Interesting good or Interesting bad?Parm

 

[Dr. Pepper]

yep, i'm in 3 of them..

although i think one is going to add some yardage this year..

one is a 16 team keeper sans the double points..

and one is the traditional miller lite redraft league..

 

[Draftnik]

Bump for the TD Only crowd. Anyone conducted their draft yet? I'm definitely interested to see how some of these things are unfolding. Mine won't be held until Labor Day weekend, but I'll be sure to post something here about how it played out.

 

[WampusCat43]

Been in a TD-only league for six out of their 12 years. It's frustrating at times, but we like realistic, easy-to-figure out scores.

We drew for draft positions recently and I was the next-to-last person to draw. The third pick and the ninth pick were all that were left.

Needless to say:

 

[gruecd]

Anybody doing TD-only leagues want to share their draft reports?

I've got mine next WED night, and in doing my homework, I've determined the following:

* Last year in my league, Alstott was undrafted, and Bettis and Duckett were 33rd and 29th RBs selected, respectively. They finished the year as the #22, 23, and 24. It seems obvious that the goal line guys should go early in a TD-only league, but everybody still wants the sexy picks.

* Justin Griffith could be a steal this year. He ranked 31st last year (tied with Dunn, actually), despite Duckett getting the majority of the work around the stripe. His role should expand with Duckett gone. I'm thinking RB20-25.

* If healthy, Brian Westbrook is GOLD in this format. Ranked #11 last year despite missing 4 games with injuries. IMO, RB10-15 is worst-case scenario for 2006, best case is top-5.

 

[Dr. Pepper]

i'll post the one we did a week ago...

10 teamer..

 

[Dr. Pepper]

Round 1

RB Shaun Alexander SEA

RB Larry Johnson KC

RB LaDainian Tomlinson SD

QB Peyton Manning IND

RB Tiki Barber NYG

RB Steven Jackson STL

RB Reggie Bush ® NO

RB LaMont Jordan OAK

RB Edgerrin James ARI

RB Clinton Portis WAS

Round 2

RB Ronnie Brown MIA

RB Rudi Johnson CIN

RB Willis McGahee BUF

RB Cadillac Williams TB

WR Marvin Harrison IND

RB Brian Westbrook PHI

RB Chester Taylor MIN

WR Steve Smith CAR

RB Willie Parker PIT

RB Mike Bell ® DEN



Round 3

WR Chad Johnson CIN

QB Michael Vick ATL

QB Drew Bledsoe DAL

RB Reuben Droughns CLE

WR Terrell Owens DAL

WR Larry Fitzgerald ARI

WR Torry Holt STL

WR Randy Moss OAK

WR Hines Ward PIT

WR Chris Chambers MIA

Round 4

WR Roy Williams (WR) DET

QB Matt Hasselbeck SEA

WR Anquan Boldin ARI

RB Kevin Jones DET

RB Corey Dillon NE

WR Santana Moss WAS

WR Reggie Wayne IND

RB Julius Jones DAL

WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh CIN

WR Joey Galloway TB

Round 5

QB Tom Brady NE

WR Donald Driver GB

WR Darrell Jackson SEA

WR Plaxico Burress NYG

QB Carson Palmer CIN

QB Donovan McNabb PHI

TE Antonio Gates SD

RB Warrick Dunn ATL

RB Ron Dayne DEN

WR Javon Walker DEN

Round 6

TE Jeremy Shockey NYG

TE Todd Heap BAL

RB Jamal Lewis BAL

WR Matt Jones JAC

WR Derrick Mason BAL

RB Joseph Addai ® IND

RB DeShaun Foster CAR

QB Jake Plummer DEN

WR Eddie Kennison KC

RB Domanick Davis HOU

Round 7

TE Jason Witten DAL

WR Reggie Brown PHI

RB Ahman Green GB

TE Tony Gonzalez KC

TE Alge Crumpler ATL

RB Laurence Maroney ® NE

WR Lee Evans BUF

WR Andre Johnson HOU

WR Ernest Wilford JAC

RB Frank Gore SF

Round 8

QB Daunte Culpepper MIA

WR Joe Horn NO

QB Marc Bulger STL

WR Keenan McCardell SD

RB Thomas Jones CHI

RB Cedric Benson CHI

WR Nate Burleson SEA

WR Amani Toomer NYG

RB Dominic Rhodes IND

WR Deion Branch NE

Round 9

K Adam Vinatieri IND

DEF Chicago Bears

K Jason Elam DEN

WR Laveranues Coles NYJ

QB Ben Roethlisberger PIT

QB Kurt Warner ARI

RB Kevan Barlow SF

WR Jerry Porter OAK

WR Drew Bennett TEN

QB Jake Delhomme CAR

Round 10

RB Tatum Bell DEN

WR Rod Smith DEN

TE L.J. Smith PHI

QB Eli Manning NYG

TE Randy McMichael MIA

WR Terry Glenn DAL

QB Drew Brees NO

WR Isaac Bruce STL

K Neil Rackers ARI

WR Dennis Northcutt CLE

Round 11

QB Brett Favre GB

TE Chris Cooley WAS

DEF Carolina Panthers

RB Chris Brown TEN

DEF Seattle Seahawks

K Mike Vanderjagt DAL

WR Roddy White ATL

QB Chris Simms TB

K Jeff Reed PIT

WR Keyshawn Johnson CAR

Round 12

WR Michael Clayton TB

RB T.J. Duckett ATL

RB Fred Taylor JAC

WR Antonio Bryant SF

WR Muhsin Muhammad CHI

K Shayne Graham CIN

RB DeAngelo Williams ® CAR

RB Marion Barber DAL

WR Joe Jurevicius CLE

RB Maurice Morris SEA

Round 13

DEF Minnesota Vikings

RB Correll Buckhalter PHI

WR Kevin Curtis STL

WR Troy Williamson MIN

WR Eric Moulds HOU

DEF Indianapolis Colts

QB Steve McNair BAL

K Josh Brown SEA

RB Brandon Jacobs NYG

DEF Pittsburgh Steelers

Round 14

WR Braylon Edwards CLE

DEF New York Giants

DEF Detroit Lions

RB Wali Lundy ® HOU

WR Donte' Stallworth NO

RB Michael Turner SD

DEF Denver Broncos

RB Deuce McAllister NO

QB Alex Smith (QB) SF

RB Samkon Gado GB

Round 15

WR David Givens TEN

RB Greg Jones JAC

WR Mark Clayton BAL

K Jay Feely NYG

WR Travis Taylor MIN

WR Brandon Lloyd WAS

DEF Jacksonville Jaguars

WR Michael Jenkins ATL

WR Corey Bradford DET

RB Ladell Betts WAS

Round 16

TE Ben Troupe TEN

TE Heath Miller PIT

TE Dallas Clark IND

TE Ben Watson NE

TE Kellen Winslow CLE

WR Robert Ferguson GB

TE Vernon Davis ® SF

TE Joe Klopfenstein ® STL

WR Samie Parker KC

WR Marty Booker MIA



Round 17

DEF Atlanta Falcons

DEF Arizona Cardinals

TE Jermaine Wiggins MIN

WR Cedrick Wilson PIT

DEF Tampa Bay Buccaneers

DEF Baltimore Ravens

K Ryan Longwell MIN

WR Chad Jackson ® NE

QB Trent Green KC

K Jeff Wilkins STL

Round 18

K Lawrence Tynes KC

K Matt Stover BAL

K Jason Hanson DET

DEF Cleveland Browns

RB LenDale White ® TEN

K Josh Scobee JAC

K John Kasay CAR

K David Akers PHI

TE Marcedes Lewis ® JAC

TE Zach Hilton NO

Round 19

K Sebastian Janikowski OAK

K Rian Lindell BUF

DEF Washington Redskins

DEF Cincinnati Bengals

TE Marcus Pollard DET

K Olindo Mare MIA

K Nate Kaeding SD

DEF New England Patriots

DEF Miami Dolphins

DEF Dallas Cowboys

 

[Dr. Pepper]

we have fixed rosters for the draft but can add/drop in any numbers afterwards..

i've already made a couple of moves...

oh, and we play team qb and team k...

current lineup is..

QB

New York Giants NYG 209 - IND 9/10/2006 8:15:00 PM

Baltimore Ravens BAL 153 - @TAM 9/10/2006 1:00:00 PM

RB

Kevan Barlow NYJ 21 - @TEN 9/10/2006 1:00:00 PM

Reggie Bush NOR 0 - @CLE 9/10/2006 1:00:00 PM

Kevin Jones DET 33 - SEA 9/10/2006 1:00:00 PM

Wali Lundy HOU 0 - PHI 9/10/2006 1:00:00 PM

Carnell Williams TAM 48 - BAL 9/10/2006 1:00:00 PM

Vernand Morency HOU 15 - PHI 9/10/2006 1:00:00 PM

WR

Lee Evans BUF 60 - @NWE 9/10/2006 1:00:00 PM

Torry Holt STL 81 - DEN 9/10/2006 1:00:00 PM

Matt Jones JAC 42 - DAL 9/10/2006 4:15:00 PM

Keenan McCardell SDG 78 - @OAK 9/11/2006 10:15:00 PM

Roddy White ATL 30 - @CAR 9/10/2006 1:00:00 PM

Antonio Bryant SFO 30 - @ARI 9/10/2006 4:15:00 PM

TE

Antonio Gates SDG 81 - @OAK 9/11/2006 10:15:00 PM

Ben Watson NWE 33 - BUF 9/10/2006 1:00:00 PM

K

San Diego Chargers SDG 128 - @OAK 9/11/2006 10:15:00 PM

Minnesota Vikings MIN 143 - @WAS 9/11/2006 7:00:00 PM

Def/ST

Jacksonville Jaguars JAC 33 - DAL 9/10/2006 4:15:00 PM

 

[lborges]

We have a TD only league and have been doing it for 35 years. 5 of the original members still participate..

You receive points for 0-5 yd TDs, 6-20 yd TDs, 21-30 yd TDs, 31-49yd TDs and 50+ yd TDs.

 

[s1eepinglionhart]

I'm in TD only league that's been running for 29 years. Lots of quirks in rules (rosters/scoring).

16 teams. Because of this, QBs and K are drafted by team, not by player.

Teams may keep two players from their previous years roster costing them their 2nd and 1st round picks, in that order. (Protect one player by giving up your 2nd round pick, protect a second by giving up your 1st.) Draft is top to bottom, no snaking, 12 rounds.

Weekly starters: QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, K

A point is a point. Period.

Then there's the debit rule, which rewards incompetence. Your QB threw a pick and it was returned for a TD? Six points for you! Your RB fumbled at the goalline and it's picked up and returned for a TD? Six more for you! It certainly makes things interesting.

 

[Trey]

I am in a TD Only league with a bunch of incompetents (minus me and I'd say 2 others) and it really is a crapshoot. In 5 years, I've only managed 1 Championship and 2 runner-ups...

It really does require a re-tooling of your drafting philosophy year in and year out. If you don't get a top pick, how do you make up the difference if it is one of the other 2 solid owners?

I mean, start your draft last year with Shaun Alexander. Unless the rest of your draft was absolutely horrendous, 1 pick just won you your championship. (That being said, an incompetent is usually the one who has the Marshall Faulk, Priest Holmes, etc. fall into their laps...)

My strategy for this year?

Top 3 RBs are definitely the Top 3 on my board... who's next? Quarterbacks! Peyton & Brady! Goalline RBs are always there to be had later in these drafts... Tiki will still go around the 1st even though Jacobs is the value in NY. You can really assemble a ramshackle backfield and still compete and be very very good in these leagues.

It's a very dated concept, but it is still fun.