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TE George Kittle, SF (1 Viewer)
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Footballguy
Depends who holds him. A contender wouldn’t sell for that but a builder would, I think. I figure he’s roughly worth Ty Warren+. If I had him I’d want Jatavion sanders, Theo Johnson, or Ben Sinnot along with an early 2 or a pick that will get me Warren plus something.
Big Nate
Footballguy
As a Kittle owner I wouldn't do 2 late seconds as I would want something more of a guarantee that could hit. 2 late seconds has a high chance of busting. Maybe to the right owner during the draft if they were excited for a couple of the late picks.
Kittle is 31 right now (32 next year) and still probably has a couple years left of top 5 TE. I'd say 1 for sure, likely 2 and then go from there. Right now is a tough time to trade a guy like Kittle to get max value. During the fantasy playoff run you likely could have gotten a first + a throw in to a team who needs a TE for a real playoff push.
If you want to trade for Kittle maybe wait until before the draft when all the hype is for the rookies. I don't think 2 late 2nds is enough for a guy who could be top 5 TE for the next year or 2. As a current Kittle owner who is contending I'm not trading him, he's locked and loaded in my TE spot.
jm192
Footballguy
If both 2nds are late, I assume they're contendning? Maybe see if they're more willilng to part with their 2027 1st. Being further out makes it sting less. Maybe they fall off between 25 and 26, and it's a higher pick. You can either get Jeremiah Smith or Ryan Williams. Or at least you have more ammo to trade up.
Maybe they tell you to kick rocks. But if they're looking to win now, a 1st that's 2 years away is worth asking about.
Wingnut
Footballguy
He didn't play in the 2nd half, I assume to let Saubert get some time.
Big Nate
Footballguy
Half PPR - 15 pts in semi-finals (week 16) and 15 pts in finals (week 17). Helped me win a Championship. Even more points for those that play in PPR or TEP.
Maybe fix your league if you are having finals in week 18.
efactor
Footballguy
I think the only reason he played was because he has a 500K roster bonus for each game played and Shanahan wanted him to get that (Kittle obviously as well). It was in the 49ers best interests to lose that game, so he got a token appearance.
As mentioned above, that's why playing FF championship games in week 18 isn't a great idea
Big Nate
Footballguy
I won't join a league that has week 18 championship. You have to be mad to draft and play with one set of players and then possibly not have them for a final game.
Madness. 100% no.
efactor
Footballguy
Agree
I made the mistake of agreeing to play in an office league one year and they ran it on Yahoo. Championship was a combination of week 17 and 18. Horrible, but guess sometimes it isn't an option. Only reason I can think of to do it.
Big Nate
Footballguy
I have one redraft league on yahoo and it ends week 17. It is a setting that can be updated. Some people just don't know or have very odd reasoning behind keeping it as week 18.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I would love to hear the reasoning for week 18 advocates. Please enlighten us. General question to everyone.
Dickies
Footballguy
Is the 2/3 turn in a 12 PPR redraft too early for Kittle?
I'm finding him land most of the time at the end of the 3rd round, but if you're hell bent on getting an elite TE, and both Bowers and McBride are gone come early in the third...why not?
Aijuk gone (for a while). Deebo gone. J. Jennings is banged up and wants more money. That leaves CMC, Piersal, and Kittle.
Against one of the easiest schedules in the NFL.
I'm finding him land most of the time at the end of the 3rd round, but if you're hell bent on getting an elite TE, and both Bowers and McBride are gone come early in the third...why not?
Aijuk gone (for a while). Deebo gone. J. Jennings is banged up and wants more money. That leaves CMC, Piersal, and Kittle.
Against one of the easiest schedules in the NFL.
Willie Mays Hayes
Footballguy
That's too soon for Kittle.
I think 2/3 turn is where he should be going, and especially if the other top TEs are gone, I think "forcing it" isn't a bad idea at all. TE is the most important position in drafts in my opinion this season, given the drop off after the top-3.
That's what I'm thinking.
There's such a dropoff after the top 3. I can't rationalize picking any TE after these 3 and if anything, would wait until late and grab either T. Warren or Loveland.
I mean...are projections THAT much different Bowers/McBride vs. Kittle?
I think it depends on the scoring system a little. Bowers and especially McBride might have 30+ more catches than Kittle. Kittle also misses a few games every year, likely due to his all-out style (ala Gronk) so I think that's why he goes lower. If you could promise me Kittle stayed healthy, I could argue him over Bowers.
Yeah he does miss games.
His ADP is apprx. 40 right now in 12 team PPR. Tough pill to swallow using the #26 overall pick on Kittle when you've got the elite QBs all there and maybe a Higgins or McConkey, but Kittle will not be there at the end of round 4.
Yeah, the ideal scenario is getting a top-3 TE to me, but obviously you'll have to pass up other talents to do so. Personally, I would take Kittle that high, but I can certainly understand if someone preferred Josh Allen or Tee Higgins.
the spanker
Footballguy
I'm just hoping he's there end of round 3. If the top 4 QBs are off the board he's an auto smash pick for me.
jwygal
Footballguy
Nothing I'm going to say is news, but I am a 49er fan that watches him every week so I may have a more informed viewpoint than some others. Kittle is a high variance player. The upside for Kittle is best TE in NFL history. (Note I said NFL and not fantasy, though he can be great in fantasy.) The downside is he completely disappears from fantasy scoring for weeks at a time.
Deebo is gone, and Aiyuk and Jennings are hurt. Pearsall has good upside but is still unproven. CMC is healthy but also has lots of injury history so it wouldn't be surprising for him to be out at times. This bodes well for Kittle getting lots of volume and he is always a threat to break a big play thanks both to Shanahan's schemes and Kittle's tendency to run over defenders.
The problem is that he is not just great at catching the ball, but is also great at blocking (hence my distinction between NFL and fantasy above). He can often be seen pancaking a defender and getting up with a huge grin on his face. He has said publicly that he likes blocking as much as receiving, so he's not going to be a 'squeaky wheel' demanding the ball. His insanely physical style of play where he looks for contact rather than trying to avoid it, also probably makes him a bit more prone to injury. Since you don't get points for blocking, its a risk week to week (play to play) whether Shanahan thinks they are better off having him run routes, or staying in to protect Purdy to open up plays for others.
Dwelley is gone and Farrell is in as the new TE2. I don't know a lot about Farrell but he played four years in JAX and is primarily a blocking TE. Does that open up more receiving opps for Kittle? Maybe.
So from my perspective, taking Kittle in the 3rd round (especially at the beginning) is a bit of a reach if you are conservative because of the high variance. But if you like to gamble he could easily be worth that spot if all goes well. TE1 is definitely not out of the range of outcomes. Another consideration is whether your top 2 picks are also risky or high variance. eg if you have CMC you might not want to pick up another risky player so early. Finally, you probably only want to reach for one of a QB or a TE in an early round, but not both since that would make you very thin at RB/WR. I would not take Kittle in the 3rd if you aren't comfortable waiting on a QB.
Just my 2 cents. Hope its helpful.
Deebo is gone, and Aiyuk and Jennings are hurt. Pearsall has good upside but is still unproven. CMC is healthy but also has lots of injury history so it wouldn't be surprising for him to be out at times. This bodes well for Kittle getting lots of volume and he is always a threat to break a big play thanks both to Shanahan's schemes and Kittle's tendency to run over defenders.
The problem is that he is not just great at catching the ball, but is also great at blocking (hence my distinction between NFL and fantasy above). He can often be seen pancaking a defender and getting up with a huge grin on his face. He has said publicly that he likes blocking as much as receiving, so he's not going to be a 'squeaky wheel' demanding the ball. His insanely physical style of play where he looks for contact rather than trying to avoid it, also probably makes him a bit more prone to injury. Since you don't get points for blocking, its a risk week to week (play to play) whether Shanahan thinks they are better off having him run routes, or staying in to protect Purdy to open up plays for others.
Dwelley is gone and Farrell is in as the new TE2. I don't know a lot about Farrell but he played four years in JAX and is primarily a blocking TE. Does that open up more receiving opps for Kittle? Maybe.
So from my perspective, taking Kittle in the 3rd round (especially at the beginning) is a bit of a reach if you are conservative because of the high variance. But if you like to gamble he could easily be worth that spot if all goes well. TE1 is definitely not out of the range of outcomes. Another consideration is whether your top 2 picks are also risky or high variance. eg if you have CMC you might not want to pick up another risky player so early. Finally, you probably only want to reach for one of a QB or a TE in an early round, but not both since that would make you very thin at RB/WR. I would not take Kittle in the 3rd if you aren't comfortable waiting on a QB.
Just my 2 cents. Hope its helpful.
Instinctive
Footballguy
I have him at 20% target share.
109 targets for 82/1197/10
Their schedule is just SOOOOOOO easy. And there's not really that much target competition (he's been between 19 and 21 the past 4 years).
109 targets for 82/1197/10
Their schedule is just SOOOOOOO easy. And there's not really that much target competition (he's been between 19 and 21 the past 4 years).
100%. Hes fully a Shanny style TE. full package.
and yeah, you gotta count on him missing a game or two most years. I still love the guy. tried to draft him this year, but was unable to do so.
but there is a lot to love about him and the way he plays.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
No but he's almost certainly going to miss a few weeks at least
Wingnut
Footballguy
TE George Kittle will miss some time with hamstring injury, per Kyle Shanahan. Initial indication is a few weeks.
Shef reported same thing on ESPN a couple minutes ago. Damnnit.
So who are Kittle owner's prioritizing?
Of the available TEs, my current ranking of fill ins:
1) B. Strange - Trust T. Lawrence more than Rattler.
2) J. Johnson - Don't think this is fluky. He's performed well in the past, but don't love Rattler.
3) H. Henry -- Solid production. Maye targets him.
4) H. Fannin -- Have a feeling the Cinci D had more to do with his production. I personally don't want ceiling if Kittle hits IR. Looking for stability.
5) D. Kincaid - D. Knox still there, but high powered offense.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Finally drafted him, sorry guys.
Saint
Footballguy
I'm bumping Juwan Johnson up to #1. Check out his snap % and routes. He may be the defacto WR2 as a TE
I'd be happy with either.
This was not the week to have the highest score in the league. Last waiver slot.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Rapaport:
George Kittle is likely out 3-5 weeks with the hamstring injury, source says, making him a candidate for Injured Reserve.
George Kittle is likely out 3-5 weeks with the hamstring injury, source says, making him a candidate for Injured Reserve.
H. Henry and NE with a nice upcoming schedule:
@MIA -- dumpster fire
PIT -- Just gave up 30+ to a J. Fields led team
CAR - Enough said
@BUF - D looks mediocre, will have to throw to keep up
@NO
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
The guy's not dead. Hopefully he can come back strong like Mike Evans last year after his hammy issue.
Either way, we should have him for our playoff matchups (and well before).
Ilov80s
Footballguy
For sure but it hurts when you spend up at TE and lose him. There’s no backup plan. Time to hit the WW hard for Fannin.
