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That's an excellent point and makes me wonder why someone doesn't TRADE FOR OJ Howard, i think the guy has a lot of god given talent and would like to see him paired with a coach that understand better how to exploit what he can do.Grahamburn said:
I'm guessing it's because the bucs would need to trade him away and they don't seem to want to do so.
O.J. Howard and I have the same number of 600 yard seasons. To his credit, his career high in targets is 53 more than me.
OJ and Gronk on the field at the same time in 12 or 13 personnel is a nightmare for defenses.
I'm not one to take extrapolation stats too seriously. My point was that he looked decent and Brady looked his way. He's a good hold in dynasty given the TE landscape.
OJ, gronk and Evans would be really tough to cover. And that doesn't include Godwin or brown.
For fantasy only, ok. Really though, OJ hasn't been a bust for the bucs.
His pass blocking won't help a fantasy team. 400 to 500 yards and 5 or 6 TDs earlier in his career isn't horrible, but he had 1 TD in 2019 and just over 400 yards. Last year doesn't really count given he only played 4 games, but still, nothing exciting from Howard IMO. I agree that Pitts is hyped a lot more than Howard, but I do distinctly remember Howard getting a lot of hype in fantasy circles when he was drafted.For fantasy only, ok. Really though, OJ hasn't been a bust for the bucs.
Pitts is hyped a LOT more than OJ was. the primary concern with Howard at the time was lack of stats while at Alabama. Much of that lack of stats was due to his blocking ability.
https://bucswire.usatoday.com/2020/01/16/this-o-j-howard-stat-proves-he-was-an-effective-tight-end-this-year/
according to ESPN, Howard did a great job in one particular area this year. In their 2019 advanced statistics awards, ESPN said that according to the stats, Howard was the league’s best pass-blocking tight end.
We'll agree that so far he has under performed many expectations in fantasy, including mine.
I have him, still value him, and he's not really in consideration of cutting him if that says anything.
Dropping him in dynasty, just don't have room and can't wait anymore. Bummer as I think he does have the skills to be a high level producer.
was really hoping Tennessee would sign him.
He'll be awesome behind Knox and the top line WRs with a guy like Josh Allen who can exploit a TE, he's free from Arians, I bet he has a career year and I've always been a fan of his. There was a stretch at some point where he was flashing mad skills. Not sure why he couldn't connect with Brady.
You don't get to the NFL without having skills, but he is simply not a very good NFL player. We have five seasons of evidence now.
This is wildly untrue. TEs not only take long to develop, they're buried in an Arians system. "My tight ends are there to block," he has repeated ad nauseum.
Ehhh I gotta disagree with you on this one. He’s really not good. He is certainly not a blocker. Maybe the Achilles injury sapped his speed?
I also disagree. From a 2020 article about O.J. Howard
Josh Allen is either going to push him up to notoriety or push him off the roster. A lot of folks suddenly become relevant around this rising star at QB. If Howard can get on the field then Allen will find him like he does everyone else. The Buffalo offense isn't built around just 1 guy, well it is built around Allen but many different folks get to catch TDs from Allen and I think OJ landed in a great spot IF he can actually build an NFL career. Because Cap is right in one sense that he couldn't get it done in Tampa Bay. But prior to Arians I thought I saw some potential from Howard. The injury plays a role but I want to see him one more time in an offense like Buffalo and he just might surprise some folks.
Buffalo pretty much hasn’t hidden it at all that they were looking to add a potential impact TE and go to more 2 TE sets. They were rumored to be interested in both Gronk and Engram before Engram signed for what he signed for and Brady came back.
That’s 3 years ago. They used Cam Brate instead of him in-line this year and Brate is a glorified wide-out. I don’t know what happened to him but he’s not that guy now. If he were, he would have got more than 3.5
I was unaware that Brate was used that way and he probably would have gotten more than one year and 3.5 million if the film was different. Point conceded, really.
He was a good player those first two years. I wish he worked out - I thought he was going to be a superstar out of college. Maybe he can turn his career around now.
He was a focal point with Koetter. When Arians got here he was an afterthought. I hope he revives his career in Buffalo. He didn’t seem as explosive after the injury, but we didn’t get to see him much. And when we did he seemed to make mistakes. Best of luck, OJ.
