TE rankings & tierings (ppr redraft) (1 Viewer)

[JayMan]

First off... some explanations:

Players are grouped by tiering - listed by projected FFpts in the tierings;
PPR - 6pts/TD - 1pt/10yds;

01-Antonio Gates, SD02-Todd Heap, BAL03-Tony Gonzalez, KC04-Kellen Winslow Jr, CLE05-Jeremy Shockey, NYG06-Chris Cooley, WAS07-Alge Crumpler, ATL08-Jason Witten, DAL09-Ben Watson, NE10-Vernon Davis, SF11-L.J. Smith, PHI12-Heath Miller, PIT13-Dallas Clark, IND14-Zach Miller, OAK15-Owen Daniels, HOU16-Ben Troupe, TEN17-Chris Baker, NYJ18-Randy McMichael, STL19-Desmond Clark, CHI20-David Martin, MIA21-Marcus Pollard, SEA22-Greg Olsen, CHI23-George Wrighster, JAX24-Daniel Graham, DEN

Thoughts?

 

[identikit]

First off... some explanations:

Players are grouped by tiering - listed by projected FFpts in the tierings;
PPR - 6pts/TD - 1pt/10yds;
01-Antonio Gates, SD02-Todd Heap, BAL03-Tony Gonzalez, KC04-Kellen Winslow Jr, CLE05-Jeremy Shockey, NYG06-Chris Cooley, WAS07-Alge Crumpler, ATL08-Jason Witten, DAL09-Ben Watson, NE10-Vernon Davis, SF11-L.J. Smith, PHI12-Heath Miller, PIT13-Dallas Clark, IND14-Zach Miller, OAK15-Owen Daniels, HOU16-Ben Troupe, TEN17-Chris Baker, NYJ18-Randy McMichael, STL19-Desmond Clark, CHI20-David Martin, MIA21-Marcus Pollard, SEA22-Greg Olsen, CHI23-George Wrighster, JAX24-Daniel Graham, DENThoughts?

I think Eric Johnson of NO should be on this list; probably in one of the last 2 groupings.Id

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

initial impressions

- surprised to see Wrighster considering there are two TEs on the roster that have better receiving skills.

- McMike is too low. He has put up numbers in a Linehan offense, and there's no reason to think he won't approach his past totals this year.

 

[JayMan]

I think Eric Johnson of NO should be on this list; probably in one of the last 2 groupings.

He's one of the next few... with Scheffler / Lewis / Scaife... Even though the pie in NO is about 4,000 big... I'm certain Colston will take a big chunk... so will Reggie... add Meachem, Copper and Henderson... and I don't think there's too much left for Johnson other than the occasional dumping TD - nothing that helps you much in FFland... my humble opinion

 

[JayMan]

initial impressions- surprised to see Wrighster considering there are two TEs on the roster that have better receiving skills. - McMike is too low. He has put up numbers in a Linehan offense, and there's no reason to think he won't approach his past totals this year.

There is a 8-FFpts difference between Wrighster and Lewis in my projections... and when you're at TE24 or so - I don't think that it's that much of an issue (unless you think Lewis or Wiggins could be surprising us with starter potential?)... The simple fact that I don't know which one of the three would get a few balls thrown his way on any sunday is enough for me to stay away...I maybe wrong... but I think there are about 350 receptions and 24 passing TDs in the Rams offense... give Holt 90/10, SJax+Leonard 90/4, Bruce 55/4, Bennett 40/2 and Klopfenstein 15/1... there isn't much left for McMike... obvisouly, if you mix the other players totals (or the size of the pie) - then you can give a bigger slice to McMike...

 

[Marek]

I'm tempted to rank Dallas Clark one tier higher. He's been getting targeted more and more often the last three years as Wayne and Harrison draw the attention. With Stokley gone, I'm thinking he will see some of the benefit. Probably to the tune of 65 catches & 6 TDs

 

[identikit]

First off... some explanations:

Players are grouped by tiering - listed by projected FFpts in the tierings;
PPR - 6pts/TD - 1pt/10yds;
01-Antonio Gates, SD02-Todd Heap, BAL03-Tony Gonzalez, KC04-Kellen Winslow Jr, CLE05-Jeremy Shockey, NYG06-Chris Cooley, WAS07-Alge Crumpler, ATL08-Jason Witten, DAL09-Ben Watson, NE10-Vernon Davis, SF11-L.J. Smith, PHI12-Heath Miller, PIT13-Dallas Clark, IND14-Zach Miller, OAK15-Owen Daniels, HOU16-Ben Troupe, TEN17-Chris Baker, NYJ18-Randy McMichael, STL19-Desmond Clark, CHI20-David Martin, MIA21-Marcus Pollard, SEA22-Greg Olsen, CHI23-George Wrighster, JAX24-Daniel Graham, DENThoughts?

Chris Baker. At the very most, he'd be near the bottom of this tier. I'd take E Johnson, Shiancoe, Scheffler, Wiggins, Marcedes, maybe even Jeff King over him.JMO

Id

 

[identikit]

I'm tempted to rank Dallas Clark one tier higher. He's been getting targeted more and more often the last three years as Wayne and Harrison draw the attention. With Stokley gone, I'm thinking he will see some of the benefit. Probably to the tune of 65 catches & 6 TDs

A Gonzales will get a lot of what D Clark got last year. Clark won't be split out nearly as much this season.Id

 

[JayMan]

Chris Baker. At the very most, he'd be near the bottom of this tier. I'd take E Johnson, Shiancoe, Scheffler, Wiggins, Marcedes, maybe even Jeff King over him.

You won't get much of an argument from me... because we are dealing with TE20 -> 30/300/3 or so...The simple fact that Baker is the only potent TE on the Jets roster... while Wiggins and Lewis, Scheffler and Graham, Shiancoe and Kleinsasser, King and Gaines will spilt the catches... would lead me to take a flyer on Baker...

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

initial impressions- surprised to see Wrighster considering there are two TEs on the roster that have better receiving skills. - McMike is too low. He has put up numbers in a Linehan offense, and there's no reason to think he won't approach his past totals this year.

There is a 8-FFpts difference between Wrighster and Lewis in my projections... and when you're at TE24 or so - I don't think that it's that much of an issue (unless you think Lewis or Wiggins could be surprising us with starter potential?)... The simple fact that I don't know which one of the three would get a few balls thrown his way on any sunday is enough for me to stay away...I maybe wrong... but I think there are about 350 receptions and 24 passing TDs in the Rams offense... give Holt 90/10, SJax+Leonard 90/4, Bruce 55/4, Bennett 40/2 and Klopfenstein 15/1... there isn't much left for McMike... obvisouly, if you mix the other players totals (or the size of the pie) - then you can give a bigger slice to McMike...

I don't know if the Jacksonville offense will produce a fantasy starter at TE, but if you are looking for a surprise TE, Jacksonville is a good place to look - Koetter loves to use the TE and early signs out of minicamp are that there will be a renewed focus on the TE in the passing offense. Tice knows Wiggins abilities very well, and the team spent a first on Lewis, surely they want to see what they have in him (if he can stay healthy )You have accounted for 290 of the receptions out of 350 - that leaves 60, not a bad sized slice. I also think projecting 90 RB catches might be overreaching. I know the Sjax had that last year, but that also be due in part to the Rams NOT having a reliable receiving TE - so there's some upside beyond that 60 you left over. The key point here is that Linehan and Rams made a beeline for McMike after he was cut (3 days between the cut and the signing) and that he's already doing well in his adjustment to the Rams because of his experience with Linehan.

"Randy kind of came in and hit the ground running," offensive coordinator Greg Olson said. "He's been real good out there."

I just don't see how you put McMike any lower than 12th, and I see an argument for him in the top 10 with Bulger and a HC that knows how to use him.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I'm tempted to rank Dallas Clark one tier higher. He's been getting targeted more and more often the last three years as Wayne and Harrison draw the attention. With Stokley gone, I'm thinking he will see some of the benefit. Probably to the tune of 65 catches & 6 TDs

A Gonzales will get a lot of what D Clark got last year. Clark won't be split out nearly as much this season.Id

Clark was lining up in the slot last year, especially in the playoffs while he was going off. That won't happen this year.

 

[JayMan]

I'm tempted to rank Dallas Clark one tier higher. He's been getting targeted more and more often the last three years as Wayne and Harrison draw the attention. With Stokley gone, I'm thinking he will see some of the benefit. Probably to the tune of 65 catches & 6 TDs

A Gonzales will get a lot of what D Clark got last year. Clark won't be split out nearly as much this season.

Harrison, Wayne, Gonzalez, Addai and even Utecht will obvisouly grab a good chunk of the passes... not sure there are 65 left for Clark - especially since he caught: 29, 25, 37 & 30 in his first 4 years...

 

[JayMan]

initial impressions- surprised to see Wrighster considering there are two TEs on the roster that have better receiving skills. - McMike is too low. He has put up numbers in a Linehan offense, and there's no reason to think he won't approach his past totals this year.

There is a 8-FFpts difference between Wrighster and Lewis in my projections... and when you're at TE24 or so - I don't think that it's that much of an issue (unless you think Lewis or Wiggins could be surprising us with starter potential?)... The simple fact that I don't know which one of the three would get a few balls thrown his way on any sunday is enough for me to stay away...I maybe wrong... but I think there are about 350 receptions and 24 passing TDs in the Rams offense... give Holt 90/10, SJax+Leonard 90/4, Bruce 55/4, Bennett 40/2 and Klopfenstein 15/1... there isn't much left for McMike... obvisouly, if you mix the other players totals (or the size of the pie) - then you can give a bigger slice to McMike...

I don't know if the Jacksonville offense will produce a fantasy starter at TE, but if you are looking for a surprise TE, Jacksonville is a good place to look - Koetter loves to use the TE and early signs out of minicamp are that there will be a renewed focus on the TE in the passing offense. Tice knows Wiggins abilities very well, and the team spent a first on Lewis, surely they want to see what they have in him (if he can stay healthy )You have accounted for 290 of the receptions out of 350 - that leaves 60, not a bad sized slice. I also think projecting 90 RB catches might be overreaching. I know the Sjax had that last year, but that also be due in part to the Rams NOT having a reliable receiving TE - so there's some upside beyond that 60 you left over. The key point here is that Linehan and Rams made a beeline for McMike after he was cut (3 days between the cut and the signing) and that he's already doing well in his adjustment to the Rams because of his experience with Linehan.

"Randy kind of came in and hit the ground running," offensive coordinator Greg Olson said. "He's been real good out there."

I just don't see how you put McMike any lower than 12th, and I see an argument for him in the top 10 with Bulger and a HC that knows how to use him.

Thanks for the replies and the good arguments Sigmund... exactly the kind of info I was looking for by posting the rankings in the first place... I certainly value your opinion highly and I'm taking notes for my upcoming drafts... (especially the SJax receptions decrease -> very important issue in ppr leagues)... I was projecting 75 for SJax and 15 for Leonard...

 

[LBH]

Id put V.Davis in the upper tier of TEs. Yeah he hasnt done much yet, but his upside and potential going into his 2nd year is far greater imo than anyone not named Gates. Hes obviously a medium risk-high reward kind of player. Im sure a lot of people wont agree with me due to the fact he hant proven anything yet, its just my opinion that hes going to explode this year

 

[H.K.]

I just don't see how you put McMike any lower than 12th, and I see an argument for him in the top 10 with Bulger and a HC that knows how to use him.

He won't be a star, but he'll be serviceable if you wait on TE

 

[JayMan]

Id put V.Davis in the upper tier of TEs. Yeah he hasnt done much yet, but his upside and potential going into his 2nd year is far greater imo than anyone not named Gates. Hes obviously a medium risk-high reward kind of player. Im sure a lot of people wont agree with me due to the fact he hant proven anything yet, its just my opinion that hes going to explode this year

That could mean big $ for you then... because I'm certain that the vast majority of owners would want 'safer' bets (Shockey / Gonzalez) before Davis... this means that you have a very good chance of having him on your teams - and if he explodes, LHB on sundays ->

 

[JayMan]

I just don't see how you put McMike any lower than 12th, and I see an argument for him in the top 10 with Bulger and a HC that knows how to use him.

He won't be a star, but he'll be serviceable if you wait on TE

Fair enough guys... I guess I won't have him on any of my teams then... because I would gamble on (ppr leagues): Gates / Shockey / Heap / Winslow / Gonzalez / Crumpler / Cooley / Witten / Smith / Davis / Miller / Watson / Clark(ind) before McMike this year... and I'm probably wrong...

 

[LBH]

Id put V.Davis in the upper tier of TEs. Yeah he hasnt done much yet, but his upside and potential going into his 2nd year is far greater imo than anyone not named Gates. Hes obviously a medium risk-high reward kind of player. Im sure a lot of people wont agree with me due to the fact he hant proven anything yet, its just my opinion that hes going to explode this year

That could mean big $ for you then... because I'm certain that the vast majority of owners would want 'safer' bets (Shockey / Gonzalez) before Davis... this means that you have a very good chance of having him on your teams - and if he explodes, LHB on sundays ->

I just selected him this morning in the middle of the 7th rd. He was the 7th TE taken(redraft league). Its the only league I have him in. Im not crazy about taking a TE ealry because I think there is some great under the radar guys you can get at that position later on at great value, but I just couldnt pass up the potential.

 

[DenverBroncos]

Id put V.Davis in the upper tier of TEs. Yeah he hasnt done much yet, but his upside and potential going into his 2nd year is far greater imo than anyone not named Gates. Hes obviously a medium risk-high reward kind of player. Im sure a lot of people wont agree with me due to the fact he hant proven anything yet, its just my opinion that hes going to explode this year

That could mean big $ for you then... because I'm certain that the vast majority of owners would want 'safer' bets (Shockey / Gonzalez) before Davis... this means that you have a very good chance of having him on your teams - and if he explodes, LHB on sundays ->

I just selected him this morning in the middle of the 7th rd. He was the 7th TE taken(redraft league). Its the only league I have him in. Im not crazy about taking a TE ealry because I think there is some great under the radar guys you can get at that position later on at great value, but I just couldnt pass up the potential.

In a redraft that is a bad choice I think. He won't exceed his value there. At the very best, he will put up TE7 numbers but he could be TE12-17 so you really did not get value there at all. Gates, Tony G, Winslow, Shockey, Heap and Crumpler should definetly finish ahead of him.

 

[LBH]

Id put V.Davis in the upper tier of TEs. Yeah he hasnt done much yet, but his upside and potential going into his 2nd year is far greater imo than anyone not named Gates. Hes obviously a medium risk-high reward kind of player. Im sure a lot of people wont agree with me due to the fact he hant proven anything yet, its just my opinion that hes going to explode this year

That could mean big $ for you then... because I'm certain that the vast majority of owners would want 'safer' bets (Shockey / Gonzalez) before Davis... this means that you have a very good chance of having him on your teams - and if he explodes, LHB on sundays ->

I just selected him this morning in the middle of the 7th rd. He was the 7th TE taken(redraft league). Its the only league I have him in. Im not crazy about taking a TE ealry because I think there is some great under the radar guys you can get at that position later on at great value, but I just couldnt pass up the potential.

In a redraft that is a bad choice I think. He won't exceed his value there. At the very best, he will put up TE7 numbers but he could be TE12-17 so you really did not get value there at all. Gates, Tony G, Winslow, Shockey, Heap and Crumpler should definetly finish ahead of him.

obviously, I disagree. At the very best, I see him just below Gates. At worst I see around 600yds and 6tds

 

[DenverBroncos]

Id put V.Davis in the upper tier of TEs. Yeah he hasnt done much yet, but his upside and potential going into his 2nd year is far greater imo than anyone not named Gates. Hes obviously a medium risk-high reward kind of player. Im sure a lot of people wont agree with me due to the fact he hant proven anything yet, its just my opinion that hes going to explode this year

That could mean big $ for you then... because I'm certain that the vast majority of owners would want 'safer' bets (Shockey / Gonzalez) before Davis... this means that you have a very good chance of having him on your teams - and if he explodes, LHB on sundays ->

I just selected him this morning in the middle of the 7th rd. He was the 7th TE taken(redraft league). Its the only league I have him in. Im not crazy about taking a TE ealry because I think there is some great under the radar guys you can get at that position later on at great value, but I just couldnt pass up the potential.

In a redraft that is a bad choice I think. He won't exceed his value there. At the very best, he will put up TE7 numbers but he could be TE12-17 so you really did not get value there at all. Gates, Tony G, Winslow, Shockey, Heap and Crumpler should definetly finish ahead of him.

obviously, I disagree. At the very best, I see him just below Gates. At worst I see around 600yds and 6tds

I'm sure this is the real reason you have VD, obviously you are not too bright!

 

[identikit]

Id put V.Davis in the upper tier of TEs. Yeah he hasnt done much yet, but his upside and potential going into his 2nd year is far greater imo than anyone not named Gates. Hes obviously a medium risk-high reward kind of player. Im sure a lot of people wont agree with me due to the fact he hant proven anything yet, its just my opinion that hes going to explode this year

That could mean big $ for you then... because I'm certain that the vast majority of owners would want 'safer' bets (Shockey / Gonzalez) before Davis... this means that you have a very good chance of having him on your teams - and if he explodes, LHB on sundays ->

I just selected him this morning in the middle of the 7th rd. He was the 7th TE taken(redraft league). Its the only league I have him in. Im not crazy about taking a TE ealry because I think there is some great under the radar guys you can get at that position later on at great value, but I just couldnt pass up the potential.

In a redraft that is a bad choice I think. He won't exceed his value there. At the very best, he will put up TE7 numbers but he could be TE12-17 so you really did not get value there at all. Gates, Tony G, Winslow, Shockey, Heap and Crumpler should definetly finish ahead of him.

obviously, I disagree. At the very best, I see him just below Gates. At worst I see around 600yds and 6tds

I'm sure this is the real reason you have VD, obviously you are not too bright!

 

[LBH]

Id put V.Davis in the upper tier of TEs. Yeah he hasnt done much yet, but his upside and potential going into his 2nd year is far greater imo than anyone not named Gates. Hes obviously a medium risk-high reward kind of player. Im sure a lot of people wont agree with me due to the fact he hant proven anything yet, its just my opinion that hes going to explode this year

That could mean big $ for you then... because I'm certain that the vast majority of owners would want 'safer' bets (Shockey / Gonzalez) before Davis... this means that you have a very good chance of having him on your teams - and if he explodes, LHB on sundays ->

I just selected him this morning in the middle of the 7th rd. He was the 7th TE taken(redraft league). Its the only league I have him in. Im not crazy about taking a TE ealry because I think there is some great under the radar guys you can get at that position later on at great value, but I just couldnt pass up the potential.

In a redraft that is a bad choice I think. He won't exceed his value there. At the very best, he will put up TE7 numbers but he could be TE12-17 so you really did not get value there at all. Gates, Tony G, Winslow, Shockey, Heap and Crumpler should definetly finish ahead of him.

obviously, I disagree. At the very best, I see him just below Gates. At worst I see around 600yds and 6tds

I'm sure this is the real reason you have VD, obviously you are not too bright!

Try and keep in mind I said AT THE VERY BEST I see him just below Gates. In other words thats where I see his potential. I took him as the 7th TE off the board, so its not like I made this crazy reach for the guy. Ive done enough mocks and real drafts to know that if you like Vernon Davis this year like I do, you need to take him where I did because theres enough people high on him so that you arent going to be getting him in the later rds. Since Im so stupid , how about backing up your big mouth and placing sig bet on the floor I set of 600 and 6?

 

[Monty Burns]

When you have been a member here for only 2 weeks, calling another member here "not to bright" is ESPECIALLY not to bright, DenverBroncos......here you go, try this on for size.....

BTW: nice info in this thread, for the most part....

 

[JayMan]

BTW: nice info in this thread, for the most part....

Thanks... I guess... (hoping that the 'most part' comment had to do with some of my posts... and not only Sigmund's )

 

[DenverBroncos]

When you have been a member here for only 2 weeks, calling another member here "not to bright" is ESPECIALLY not to bright, DenverBroncos......here you go, try this on for size.....

BTW: nice info in this thread, for the most part....

Why???? Is someone going to beat me up because I'm new??? Can you only call someone NTB if you've been on this website for 2 years because you have nothing better to do with your life.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

DenverBroncos

Welcome aboard.

 

[Monty Burns]

BTW: nice info in this thread, for the most part....

Thanks... I guess... (hoping that the 'most part' comment had to do with some of my posts... and not only Sigmund's :X )

Yes, actually everything except the bashing. While I personally will never completly agree on anyones fairly long list of ANYTHING, I really welcome others opinions, any try to see things from their point of view, and maybe adjust mine, if they see something a little clearer than I do. Disagreements are natural but personal bashing should not be part of it....IMO

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

When you have been a member here for only 2 weeks, calling another member here "not to bright" is ESPECIALLY not to bright, DenverBroncos......here you go, try this on for size.....

BTW: nice info in this thread, for the most part....

Why???? Is someone going to beat me up because I'm new??? Can you only call someone NTB if you've been on this website for 2 years because you have nothing better to do with your life.

Hi Broncos,You may want to take a look at Joe's pinned topic - I'll link it right HERE.

We follow a general rule here of "be excellent to one another". May be different than other boards, and that's fine, but we encourage conversation as much as possible and the sharing of information. Anything that can be viewed as negative to another member really isn't allowed, and that's to encourage everyone to participate here.

It may not be what you are used to, but it has worked well for us here in the Shark Pool.

I hope you understand and stick around for a while - it's a great place to hang out.

 

[nygiants56]

First off... some explanations:

Players are grouped by tiering - listed by projected FFpts in the tierings;
PPR - 6pts/TD - 1pt/10yds;
01-Antonio Gates, SD02-Todd Heap, BAL03-Tony Gonzalez, KC04-Kellen Winslow Jr, CLE05-Jeremy Shockey, NYG06-Chris Cooley, WAS07-Alge Crumpler, ATL08-Jason Witten, DAL09-Ben Watson, NE10-Vernon Davis, SF11-L.J. Smith, PHI12-Heath Miller, PIT13-Dallas Clark, IND14-Zach Miller, OAK15-Owen Daniels, HOU16-Ben Troupe, TEN17-Chris Baker, NYJ18-Randy McMichael, STL19-Desmond Clark, CHI20-David Martin, MIA21-Marcus Pollard, SEA22-Greg Olsen, CHI23-George Wrighster, JAX24-Daniel Graham, DENThoughts?

Crumpler too high.team lost Greg Knapp, an offensive coordinator who loves to use the TE position.Winslow, Jr, too high. Browns QB position is in flux. how much of a dent will a healthy Edwards contribute to the passing game? my guess; 80 balls. thats going to cut into Winslow's #'s. Also, do they run more with J. Thomas blocking, and Jamal Lewis in the backfield? again, if they run,that'll take more chances away from Winslow. if they develop ANY semblance of a running game, they're likely to stick with it.they need to play a grind-it-out type of game with opponents, run the ball, wear down the clock, etc. Winslow got a lot of looks in 2006 because the Brownies were almost always playing from behind, so they had to pass.

Witten - too low. Garrett is going to put him back around 80 receptions. TD totals could approach double-digits. He won't be asked to stay in and block as much as he did last season, they've got Fasano for that now.

Ben Watson at #9, is laughable! dude has Randy Moss in town ( fresh off reportedly running a 4.2 40 in minicamp, as per ESPN reports last week) , Stallworth and his blazing set of wheels, and good hands man Wes Welker ready to catch anything thrown his way. Oh, and add Maroney and his decent pair of mits.

Good luck with Watson, won't catch more than 45 passes in 2007. one of the Most overrated players in FF, this season. Last year's over-hyped guy was Wali Lundy.This year, it is Ben Watson.

 

[the spanker]

First off... some explanations:

Players are grouped by tiering - listed by projected FFpts in the tierings;
PPR - 6pts/TD - 1pt/10yds;
01-Antonio Gates, SD02-Todd Heap, BAL03-Tony Gonzalez, KC04-Kellen Winslow Jr, CLE05-Jeremy Shockey, NYG06-Chris Cooley, WAS07-Alge Crumpler, ATL08-Jason Witten, DAL09-Ben Watson, NE10-Vernon Davis, SF11-L.J. Smith, PHI12-Heath Miller, PIT13-Dallas Clark, IND14-Zach Miller, OAK15-Owen Daniels, HOU16-Ben Troupe, TEN17-Chris Baker, NYJ18-Randy McMichael, STL19-Desmond Clark, CHI20-David Martin, MIA21-Marcus Pollard, SEA22-Greg Olsen, CHI23-George Wrighster, JAX24-Daniel Graham, DENThoughts?

Crumpler too high.team lost Greg Knapp, an offensive coordinator who loves to use the TE position.Winslow, Jr, too high. Browns QB position is in flux. how much of a dent will a healthy Edwards contribute to the passing game? my guess; 80 balls. thats going to cut into Winslow's #'s. Also, do they run more with J. Thomas blocking, and Jamal Lewis in the backfield? again, if they run,that'll take more chances away from Winslow. if they develop ANY semblance of a running game, they're likely to stick with it.they need to play a grind-it-out type of game with opponents, run the ball, wear down the clock, etc. Winslow got a lot of looks in 2006 because the Brownies were almost always playing from behind, so they had to pass.

Witten - too low. Garrett is going to put him back around 80 receptions. TD totals could approach double-digits. He won't be asked to stay in and block as much as he did last season, they've got Fasano for that now.

Ben Watson at #9, is laughable! dude has Randy Moss in town ( fresh off reportedly running a 4.2 40 in minicamp, as per ESPN reports last week) , Stallworth and his blazing set of wheels, and good hands man Wes Welker ready to catch anything thrown his way. Oh, and add Maroney and his decent pair of mits.

Good luck with Watson, won't catch more than 45 passes in 2007. one of the Most overrated players in FF, this season. Last year's over-hyped guy was Wali Lundy.This year, it is Ben Watson.

Nygiants, what about Cooley? Is he about right to you?

 

[Reaper]

Chris Baker. At the very most, he'd be near the bottom of this tier. I'd take E Johnson, Shiancoe, Scheffler, Wiggins, Marcedes, maybe even Jeff King over him.

You won't get much of an argument from me... because we are dealing with TE20 -> 30/300/3 or so...The simple fact that Baker is the only potent TE on the Jets roster... while Wiggins and Lewis, Scheffler and Graham, Shiancoe and Kleinsasser, King and Gaines will spilt the catches... would lead me to take a flyer on Baker...

Also Baker has gotten a little more action each year and should have had another TD last year.... Plus with a thin WR core, you never know when he can jump up in the pecking order.... I'd say that 30/300/3 is his floor.I'll bump him to 38/430/5On an offense in year 2 that should have better line play and should have a much better #1 RB in Jones which could lead tomore play action for Chad. We're also looking at Schott Jr who of course was used to having Gates around.

 

[identikit]

Chris Baker. At the very most, he'd be near the bottom of this tier. I'd take E Johnson, Shiancoe, Scheffler, Wiggins, Marcedes, maybe even Jeff King over him.

You won't get much of an argument from me... because we are dealing with TE20 -> 30/300/3 or so...The simple fact that Baker is the only potent TE on the Jets roster... while Wiggins and Lewis, Scheffler and Graham, Shiancoe and Kleinsasser, King and Gaines will spilt the catches... would lead me to take a flyer on Baker...

Good point, Jayman...The others are a 'I hope I guess right' sort of thing....

Id