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"Teal Night" ? Really? (1 Viewer)
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Righetti
Footballguy
jACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
vs. PITTSBURGH STEELERS
Games against the Steelers:
Oct 5, 2004 – IN JACKSONVILLE – ESPN Sunday Night Game – Scobee barely misses a 60 yard FG that would have won the game. Jaguars lose 16-17
Oct 16, 2005 – IN PITTSBURGH – Rashean Mathis intercepts Tommy Maddox in overtime to win the game for the Jaguars 23-17
Sept 18, 2006 – IN JACKSONVILLE – A sea of teal shines on ESPN for their Monday Night Game, cheering the home team to victory and making the visitors insignificant.
vs. PITTSBURGH STEELERS
Games against the Steelers:
Oct 5, 2004 – IN JACKSONVILLE – ESPN Sunday Night Game – Scobee barely misses a 60 yard FG that would have won the game. Jaguars lose 16-17
Oct 16, 2005 – IN PITTSBURGH – Rashean Mathis intercepts Tommy Maddox in overtime to win the game for the Jaguars 23-17
Sept 18, 2006 – IN JACKSONVILLE – A sea of teal shines on ESPN for their Monday Night Game, cheering the home team to victory and making the visitors insignificant.
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Jiggyonthehut
Footballguy
:teal:' date='Sep 16 2006, 06:20 PM' post='5533921']
SoFresh&SoClean
Footballguy
Go Teal.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I keep forgetting: is teal night before chartreuse night or periwinkle night?
pizzatyme
Footballguy
We traveled to Jacksonville last year with the Colts. I was totally amazed at the lack of football excitement from the fans. 10 minutes prior to kickoff, stadium at about 60% of "capacity". The very first play after kickoff, 90% of the fans around us were in their seats, quiet like sheep. And the Jags were on Defense!
I don't think it will be a problem for the Steelers fans to be seen or heard there.
I don't think it will be a problem for the Steelers fans to be seen or heard there.
gump
Footballguy
All they talk and think about all year is UF and UGA football. It's a mystery to everyone why the area does not embrace the NFL like it does two schools that don't call the area home.
Wadsworth
Footballguy
It would have been louder, but the Jags decided not to pipe in noise.
T
trader jake
Guest
The color theme worked for the Miami heat. 
Wadsworth
Footballguy
The Jags have a waiting list for season tickets. Jag games regularly have better local TV ratings than any college game except FLA/GA. Watch the game monday night and come back tuesday and tell me how the fans aren't into it. Jacksonville is an NFL town, just people outside of north florida rarely pay enough attention to notice.
Urine_Idiot
Footballguy
Insert "teal curtain" joke hereGotta do omething about that peech impediment. Go Tealers!
gump
Footballguy
Didn't they block out some seats in AllTel?The Jags market is somewhere in the bottom 10 of the NFL. I'm a fan...and think it can work in the area...but it's not what it could be.
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kylechoffman
Footballguy
I think thats cool as ####e.. Get the fans to ban together like a college football game.
Wish the charger fans would do that.. Cant wear powder blues this sunday though -
Wish the charger fans would do that.. Cant wear powder blues this sunday though -
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
I've never been here, but I just know what I saw in 2004 -- it was a LOT of Steelers fans in there. I know the Black and Gold faithful travel well, but it's worse (worse for you, better than us) in Jax. Some comments from the Stillers homer board:
Again, I haven't been there.....but from what I've seen on TV ... the Stillers p\/\/n'd that stadium last time they were there.
The Jerk
Footballguy
I know this article is four years old, but try finding an article describing the declining fan base and 16,500 empty seats for other NFL teams any time in the past 20 years. There aren't too many. Sorry, Wadsworth. There is not the passion for the NFL in Jacksonville that you find in the majority of other NFL citites. It's not a surprise. This is only the 12th season for the Jags. I expect it will improve as the current generation of young fans grow up having known the Jaguars since they were children.
Jags just a Jax fling?
Jags just a Jax fling?
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I was there, and we did.We will again Monday night - I assure you.AhrnCityPahnder said:
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Wadsworth said:
I'm going to the game Monday with one of the two season tickets my buddy (another Steelers fan) obtained upon moving from New York to Jacksonville. He moved there on June 29th. Yes, this past June 29th.
Wadsworth
Footballguy
A few responses:
-Jacksonville is the NFL's second smallest market. It's the smallest if you include Milwaukee with Green Bay.
-Around 1 in 16 locals have to go to the game for the stadium to sell out.
-Alltel Stadium holds almost 80,000 people without the seats covered(only Arrowhead holds more IIRC). The Jags covered close to 10,000 seats, but that leaves near 70,000 seats. So even when there were 16,000 empty seats, there were more than 60,000 people at the game.
-No games were blacked out last year and none will be this year. There's a waiting list for next years season tickets.
-Jacksonville's population is growing pretty quickly, while market's like Buffalo and Pitt are losing population.
-The Jaguars to not sell PSLs. Wayne Weaver feels that too many agents buy PSLs and wants the tickets to stay in the hands of locals.
-This area is big on college football, but that's changing. My dad and uncle are huge college fans that have never bought Jags season tickets. But myself, my brother, and 4 of my cousins own season tickets. It seems to be a generational thing.
-Even in the slow years(2002-2003) Jacksonvile ranked right in the middle for NFL attendance, 15 and 16 IIRC.
Watch the game monday night and decide for yourself. Pitt always brings fans, especially to games near vaction spots. But I expect a rowdy mass of teal monday night. We'll see.
-Jacksonville is the NFL's second smallest market. It's the smallest if you include Milwaukee with Green Bay.
-Around 1 in 16 locals have to go to the game for the stadium to sell out.
-Alltel Stadium holds almost 80,000 people without the seats covered(only Arrowhead holds more IIRC). The Jags covered close to 10,000 seats, but that leaves near 70,000 seats. So even when there were 16,000 empty seats, there were more than 60,000 people at the game.
-No games were blacked out last year and none will be this year. There's a waiting list for next years season tickets.
-Jacksonville's population is growing pretty quickly, while market's like Buffalo and Pitt are losing population.
-The Jaguars to not sell PSLs. Wayne Weaver feels that too many agents buy PSLs and wants the tickets to stay in the hands of locals.
-This area is big on college football, but that's changing. My dad and uncle are huge college fans that have never bought Jags season tickets. But myself, my brother, and 4 of my cousins own season tickets. It seems to be a generational thing.
-Even in the slow years(2002-2003) Jacksonvile ranked right in the middle for NFL attendance, 15 and 16 IIRC.
Watch the game monday night and decide for yourself. Pitt always brings fans, especially to games near vaction spots. But I expect a rowdy mass of teal monday night. We'll see.
Wadsworth
Footballguy
LINK"The Jaguars are currently sold out of the season ticket allocation for non-premium seats. The Jaguars Season Ticket Wait List was created as a means for interested buyers to get access to available season tickets in the future. The Wait List gives individuals the opportunity to be part of an exclusive club whose members will be first in line when season tickets become available. "Wadsworth said:
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
So, they're sold out of non-premium seats? Sweet - I guess I'll have good seats Monday. All I know is my man decided to move to Jacksonville in late May after weighing several job offers in different Florida cities, moved here on 6/29, and still got season tickets for this year.LINK"The Jaguars are currently sold out of the season ticket allocation for non-premium seats. The Jaguars Season Ticket Wait List was created as a means for interested buyers to get access to available season tickets in the future. The Wait List gives individuals the opportunity to be part of an exclusive club whose members will be first in line when season tickets become available. "Wadsworth said:
Wadsworth
Footballguy
Your seats will either be very good or very bad. In late June I think there were a few hundred non-premium season tickets left. So your buddy either got the last of the non-premium or very very good premium seats. The premium seating in the Crown Royal Club is very nice, almost too nice for football in my mind.So, they're sold out of non-premium seats? Sweet - I guess I'll have good seats Monday. All I know is my man decided to move to Jacksonville in late May after weighing several job offers in different Florida cities, moved here on 6/29, and still got season tickets for this year.LINK"The Jaguars are currently sold out of the season ticket allocation for non-premium seats. The Jaguars Season Ticket Wait List was created as a means for interested buyers to get access to available season tickets in the future. The Wait List gives individuals the opportunity to be part of an exclusive club whose members will be first in line when season tickets become available. "Wadsworth said:
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Wadsworth
Footballguy
You mean dollars from Pitt people or from all the people buying teal stuff?
JaxBill
Footballguy
I stopped by Football Fanatics at the Avenues and it was packed with Jags fans. There was one group of four Steelers fans there.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
:fingerscrossed:Your seats will either be very good or very bad. In late June I think there were a few hundred non-premium season tickets left. So your buddy either got the last of the non-premium or very very good premium seats. The premium seating in the Crown Royal Club is very nice, almost too nice for football in my mind.So, they're sold out of non-premium seats? Sweet - I guess I'll have good seats Monday. All I know is my man decided to move to Jacksonville in late May after weighing several job offers in different Florida cities, moved here on 6/29, and still got season tickets for this year.LINK"The Jaguars are currently sold out of the season ticket allocation for non-premium seats. The Jaguars Season Ticket Wait List was created as a means for interested buyers to get access to available season tickets in the future. The Wait List gives individuals the opportunity to be part of an exclusive club whose members will be first in line when season tickets become available. "Wadsworth said:
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Alltel will make a fortune on beer concessions. Last time, a few stands ran out completely (with my help.) I was taking a leak and one of the Jags fans was grumbling about - something to the effect of : "they NEVER run out of beer except when the Steelers are in town - why don't you guys take a break?"
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
We're seeing a lot of black and gold on "Teal Night" so far...
BoulderBob
Footballguy
What is the motivation behind this move? Increased merchandise sales? Surely the Jags execs do not think a teal background makes for a positive TV viewing experience. Nevertheless, here is to the Lefty throwing for a few scores while leading the Jags to victory.
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nightshift
Footballguy
Teal Night =
The Night the Teal met the Steel and found out gettin' a Black & Gold Butt Whoopin' is the real deal...
HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!
The Night the Teal met the Steel and found out gettin' a Black & Gold Butt Whoopin' is the real deal...
HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!
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So far i've learned this much about Jacksonville: they have some weird fetish for a color otherwise known as the even pansier 'Sea-foam', it was tough to convince people to go there _when the SUPERBOWL was in town, and it is possible to run out of beer at their stadium. Maybe Arizona needs another team...
Wadsworth
Footballguy
The idea first came up on the jaguars.com messageboard when the schedule was annouced. To be frank, Jags fans were embarassed in 2004 by the amount of black and gold in the stands for the Pitt game. It was an idea to counter the invasion of Pitt fans. There will still be a lot of black and gold in the stadium tonight, but hoepfully there will be a better counterbalance of teal. A lot of Pitt fans actually bought seaosn tickets for the Jags just to come to this game. Dang crazed towel wavers!
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Steelers make money for J-ville
Another invasion of Alltel Stadium by an army of black-and-gold, towel-waving Pittsburgh Steeler zealots should make for a captivating Monday Night Football atmosphere.
They are, undeniably, the NFL's best road fans, a legion of pigskin loyalists who network like crazy, using whatever resources available to purchase road-game tickets at ridiculous prices to watch their Steelers.
In 2004, they embarrassed owner Wayne Weaver and Jaguars fans when an estimated 20,000 of them filled Alltel Stadium seats on a Sunday night, almost negating Jacksonville's home-field advantage in a 17-16 Steelers victory.
As much as Jaguars fans may detest that black-and-gold presence in their own stadium, which is expected to range from 7,000-12,000 for tonight's game, they have to admire it.
How can you not bow in homage to Steelers fans? They're the stalkers of American sports. Few support groups of pro teams do more to fill another city's hotels, restaurants and seats on game day.
Wherever the Steelers travel, their fans descend upon NFL stadiums like locusts. You cannot stop them. You can only hope your team plays well enough to muzzle them.
"Instead of running from [steeler fans], we'll enjoy them because they're going to fire up our fans," said Scott Loft, the Jaguars' executive director of ticket sales.
Jaguars fans will be annoyed seeing the enemy occupy so many Alltel seats, but it's their own fault.
How do you think the Steeler crazies get in those seats? Many of the club seats were sold to Steelers fans at inflated prices, allowing the sellers to subsidize the cost of a Jaguars season-ticket package.
"I paid $160 for my $65 ticket," said Harvey Aronson, vice president of JAXBAG, a Jacksonville-based Steelers fan club. "It won't be as big a [steelers] crowd as two years ago because the Jaguars covered up 10,000 seats, but it'll still be huge."
To rev up Jaguars' fans for the game, mayor John Peyton has declared today "All Teal Day" and is encouraging all businesses to wear teal colors. Can you imagine Pittsburgh's mayor issuing such a proclamation for any Steelers home game?
Of course not. It'd be like Ed Sullivan asking his audience to scream upon introducing the Beatles. Steelers fans don't need prompting. Just give them the time and the place, and voila, thousands of Terrible Towels magically appear.
You don't build that kind of deep, enduring affection without the benefit of time and tradition. Before coach Chuck Noll's arrival and the move to Three Rivers Stadium nearly 40 years ago, the Steelers were just another plodding NFL franchise.
Four Super Bowl titles in the 1970s and repeated television exposure on Monday Night Football changed everything. It galvanized generations of Pittsburgh natives, ensuring the team a fervent fan base that branched out nationwide.
The Jaguars are still building toward a fan base that will give them unconditional love in big numbers. Jacksonville enjoyed a honeymoon period during the early years, but there wasn't enough disposable income in this market to sustain it.
Tonight, seeing all those enemy fans in their own house will rankle the home folks. But it's hard to hate Steelers fans for invading Alltel. Because they represent exactly what Weaver desires for his own franchise.
Another invasion of Alltel Stadium by an army of black-and-gold, towel-waving Pittsburgh Steeler zealots should make for a captivating Monday Night Football atmosphere.
They are, undeniably, the NFL's best road fans, a legion of pigskin loyalists who network like crazy, using whatever resources available to purchase road-game tickets at ridiculous prices to watch their Steelers.
In 2004, they embarrassed owner Wayne Weaver and Jaguars fans when an estimated 20,000 of them filled Alltel Stadium seats on a Sunday night, almost negating Jacksonville's home-field advantage in a 17-16 Steelers victory.
As much as Jaguars fans may detest that black-and-gold presence in their own stadium, which is expected to range from 7,000-12,000 for tonight's game, they have to admire it.
How can you not bow in homage to Steelers fans? They're the stalkers of American sports. Few support groups of pro teams do more to fill another city's hotels, restaurants and seats on game day.
Wherever the Steelers travel, their fans descend upon NFL stadiums like locusts. You cannot stop them. You can only hope your team plays well enough to muzzle them.
"Instead of running from [steeler fans], we'll enjoy them because they're going to fire up our fans," said Scott Loft, the Jaguars' executive director of ticket sales.
Jaguars fans will be annoyed seeing the enemy occupy so many Alltel seats, but it's their own fault.
How do you think the Steeler crazies get in those seats? Many of the club seats were sold to Steelers fans at inflated prices, allowing the sellers to subsidize the cost of a Jaguars season-ticket package.
"I paid $160 for my $65 ticket," said Harvey Aronson, vice president of JAXBAG, a Jacksonville-based Steelers fan club. "It won't be as big a [steelers] crowd as two years ago because the Jaguars covered up 10,000 seats, but it'll still be huge."
To rev up Jaguars' fans for the game, mayor John Peyton has declared today "All Teal Day" and is encouraging all businesses to wear teal colors. Can you imagine Pittsburgh's mayor issuing such a proclamation for any Steelers home game?
Of course not. It'd be like Ed Sullivan asking his audience to scream upon introducing the Beatles. Steelers fans don't need prompting. Just give them the time and the place, and voila, thousands of Terrible Towels magically appear.
You don't build that kind of deep, enduring affection without the benefit of time and tradition. Before coach Chuck Noll's arrival and the move to Three Rivers Stadium nearly 40 years ago, the Steelers were just another plodding NFL franchise.
Four Super Bowl titles in the 1970s and repeated television exposure on Monday Night Football changed everything. It galvanized generations of Pittsburgh natives, ensuring the team a fervent fan base that branched out nationwide.
The Jaguars are still building toward a fan base that will give them unconditional love in big numbers. Jacksonville enjoyed a honeymoon period during the early years, but there wasn't enough disposable income in this market to sustain it.
Tonight, seeing all those enemy fans in their own house will rankle the home folks. But it's hard to hate Steelers fans for invading Alltel. Because they represent exactly what Weaver desires for his own franchise.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Trying to show support? No. Just the idea that you have to tell your fans to show up and cheer and wear the home team colors.So the fans of a team that wave towels at a stadium are mocking another fanbase for trying to show some support?
Capella
Footballguy
That's not what they're doing. Teal isn't the only color the team has. Some people may wear white, black, whatever. Just trying to get everybody in unison for the one national telecast.Trying to show support? No. Just the idea that you have to tell your fans to show up and cheer and wear the home team colors.So the fans of a team that wave towels at a stadium are mocking another fanbase for trying to show some support?
pizzatyme
Footballguy
To add to my previous post. When we went to the game, we were in Row #1 at the goalline. Nice people all around.
I was in shock at the silence.
A few observations...
There aren't enough hotels near the stadium.
There aren't enough big parking areas to tailgate.
It seems as though everyone comes driving in 30 minutes prior to the game.
The Colts fans had probably 4000 fans there and we were easily heard.
As for the reference to the Colts "piping" in noise. That is just silly! The dome is one of he loudest venues in the country. Just ask opposing teams. It took us 15 years to learn how not to cheer when the Offense had the ball, but we finally got it.
I was impressed with Alltel and the concession room in the endzone.
I think they need to open the floodgates 90 minutes prior to kickoff. What silly rule is that to keep everyone out until 60 minutes before the game? Trying to save money on security?
I was in shock at the silence.
A few observations...
There aren't enough hotels near the stadium.
There aren't enough big parking areas to tailgate.
It seems as though everyone comes driving in 30 minutes prior to the game.
The Colts fans had probably 4000 fans there and we were easily heard.
As for the reference to the Colts "piping" in noise. That is just silly! The dome is one of he loudest venues in the country. Just ask opposing teams. It took us 15 years to learn how not to cheer when the Offense had the ball, but we finally got it.
I was impressed with Alltel and the concession room in the endzone.
I think they need to open the floodgates 90 minutes prior to kickoff. What silly rule is that to keep everyone out until 60 minutes before the game? Trying to save money on security?
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Cheers Jags. impressive showing tonight.
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
The Teal looked pretty ####### good to me tonight.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Agreed. The Jags played a great game tonight...
Sinrman
Footballguy
People haven't given the Jaguar defense its just dues. Perhaps tonight will do so...Grats to the Jags for a hard fought win...
