Team Legacy's 2008 BOOM and BUST picks (1 Viewer)

[Team Legacy]

Team Legacy's 2008 QB BUST - Derek Anderson QB6

My boom pick at each position is the player that I feel is poised for a BIG season and you don't have to break the bank to get him.

I'm happy to announce TEAM LEGACY'S 2008 QB BOOM PICK - JAKE DELHOMME - ADP -QB15

Have we all forgotten the calibre of player this guy is? Sure the offense is installing a power running game, but this guy is going to complete passes and lots of them. Let's take a look at the start of last season pre-injury...

WK TM OPP cmp att yrds tds ints

1 .. CAR STL 18 27 ...201 ...3 ..0

2 .. CAR HOU 27 41 ...307 ...3..1

3 .. CAR ATL 10 18 ...109 ...2 ..0

This guy was ON FIRE to start the season, and in a down season for the Panthers in 2006, he was STILL on pace for yet another respectable 3400 yard season and 20+ TDs before his setback.



Blowing out your elbow is a SERIOUS INJURY, but from all accounts, he's healed nicely and is good as new. They feel like his arm is actually stronger than before, as he's showing more zip than last year stating he feels stronger in his fingers and shoulder due to the intense rehab routine. He's back and the team has reloaded at WR (adding Moose and Hackett), RB (drafting Stewart) and OL (drafting Otah at RT, Jordan Gross back to LT, Wharton to LG) The ONLY two questions to be answered as I see it.

1. Has he regained his throwing strength after offseason Tommy John surgery? -- It sounds like he has, but will it hold up?

2. Will the re-shuffled offensive line achieve the much needed chemistry in time for the season opener, or will it take them a while?

My guess is, we see the old Jake Delhomme, the fiery leader who will get the ball to his playmakers, Steve Smith, DJ Hackett and DeAngelo Williams.

3600-4000 yards and 25-28 TDs sounds like a standout season for Delhomme and the Panthers and I fully expect to see a Top 10 season with upside.

While others are spending their top picks on QBs, sit back, relax, and continue to load up at the other positions. Delhomme should be sitting there, waiting for you in the 10th and he'll make a fine, ACCURATE productive, QB1.

 

[rzrback77]

Team Legacy's 2008 QB BUST - Derek Anderson QB6

My boom pick at each position is the player that I feel is poised for a BIG season and you don't have to break the bank to get him.

I'm happy to announce TEAM LEGACY'S 2008 QB BOOM PICK - JAKE DELHOMME - ADP -QB15

Have we all forgotten the calibre of player this guy is? Sure the offense is installing a power running game, but this guy is going to complete passes and lots of them. Let's take a look at the start of last season pre-injury...

WKTMOPPCMPATTYDTDINTRSHYDTDFPT1CARSTL182720130312026.22CARHOU274130731113029.73CARATL10181092021015.5

This guy was ON FIRE to start the season, and in a down season for the Panthers in 2006, he was STILL on pace for yet another respectable 3400 yard season and 20+ TDs before his setback.



Blowing out your elbow is a SERIOUS INJURY, but from all accounts, he's healed nicely and is good as new. They feel like his arm is actually stronger than before, as he's showing more zip than last year stating he feels stronger in his fingers and shoulder due to the intense rehab routine. He's back and the team has reloaded at WR (adding Moose and Hackett), RB (drafting Stewart) and OL (drafting Otah at RT, Jordan Gross back to LT, Wharton to LG) The ONLY two questions to be answered as I see it.

1. Has he regained his throwing strength after offseason Tommy John surgery? -- It sounds like he has, but will it hold up?

2. Will the re-shuffled offensive line achieve the much needed chemistry in time for the season opener, or will it take them a while?

My guess is, we see the old Jake Delhomme, the fiery leader who will get the ball to his playmakers, Steve Smith, DJ Hackett and DeAngelo Williams.

3600-4000 yards and 25-28 TDs sounds like a standout season for Delhomme and the Panthers and I fully expect to see a Top 10 season with upside.

While others are spending their top picks on QBs, sit back, relax, and continue to load up at the other positions. Delhomme should be sitting there, waiting for you in the 10th and he'll make a fine, ACCURATE productive, QB1.

Help me out interpreting that red text line

 

[Team Legacy]

GIMME A SEC RZR..

 

[rzrback77]

Not sure that I support the top ten prediction. I think that Carolina will favor the running game too much for them to power a top ten passing attack. I am also a wait and see guy on the stronger arm after Tommy John surgery. Nice read though and I always respect guys willing to single out one guy like that for a surprise value pick.

 

[radballs]

The problem with Delhomme is that he's already being discounted imo, but not as much as someone maybe would be given his post-op condition. In other words, I think a lot of savvy individuals are still keeping his ADP higher than you'd like when singling out a terrific low buy. I actually agree with Legacy that he'll be a value as QB 15 because I see him as QB10-12. Not a ton of upside though and I'd rather go with someone without the post surgery concerns for my upside.

 

[ddogs24]

I am in total agreement with this posting. I had Jake last year in a dynasty league and stashed him on IR. I also drafted him in the 2nd round of another dynasty league, just because I think he'll blow up and I can trade him mid-season for major value. He had 8 TD's in 3 games last year, and was really playing well. Considering the weapons added this off-season, I can easily see him with 25+ TD's and about 3800 yds.

Carolina is not expected to be a force this year, but I see no reason why they won't. They will pound the rock to start the game...defenses will adjust and stack the line, then Jake picks the secondary apart with Smith and Co., and in the 4th quarter the pound the rock some more as the line d line wears down. Tommy John surgery is so common place in sports these days that I don't see any reason why he won't come back as the same old Jake.

 

[rzrback77]

I am in total agreement with this posting. I had Jake last year in a dynasty league and stashed him on IR. I also drafted him in the 2nd round of another dynasty league, just because I think he'll blow up and I can trade him mid-season for major value. He had 8 TD's in 3 games last year, and was really playing well. Considering the weapons added this off-season, I can easily see him with 25+ TD's and about 3800 yds.

Carolina is not expected to be a force this year, but I see no reason why they won't. They will pound the rock to start the game...defenses will adjust and stack the line, then Jake picks the secondary apart with Smith and Co., and in the 4th quarter the pound the rock some more as the line d line wears down. Tommy John surgery is so common place in sports these days that I don't see any reason why he won't come back as the same old Jake.

Second round????? has to be a typo.

 

[radballs]

I am in total agreement with this posting. I had Jake last year in a dynasty league and stashed him on IR. I also drafted him in the 2nd round of another dynasty league, just because I think he'll blow up and I can trade him mid-season for major value. He had 8 TD's in 3 games last year, and was really playing well. Considering the weapons added this off-season, I can easily see him with 25+ TD's and about 3800 yds.

Carolina is not expected to be a force this year, but I see no reason why they won't. They will pound the rock to start the game...defenses will adjust and stack the line, then Jake picks the secondary apart with Smith and Co., and in the 4th quarter the pound the rock some more as the line d line wears down. Tommy John surgery is so common place in sports these days that I don't see any reason why he won't come back as the same old Jake.

Second round????? has to be a typo.

Either a start 3 QB league or 12th round not 2nd I would assume. Or, maybe he just left a lot of value on the table, lol.

 

[RenegadeGM]

I am in total agreement with this posting. I had Jake last year in a dynasty league and stashed him on IR. I also drafted him in the 2nd round of another dynasty league, just because I think he'll blow up and I can trade him mid-season for major value. He had 8 TD's in 3 games last year, and was really playing well. Considering the weapons added this off-season, I can easily see him with 25+ TD's and about 3800 yds.

Carolina is not expected to be a force this year, but I see no reason why they won't. They will pound the rock to start the game...defenses will adjust and stack the line, then Jake picks the secondary apart with Smith and Co., and in the 4th quarter the pound the rock some more as the line d line wears down. Tommy John surgery is so common place in sports these days that I don't see any reason why he won't come back as the same old Jake.

Second round????? has to be a typo.

Either a start 3 QB league or 12th round not 2nd I would assume. Or, maybe he just left a lot of value on the table, lol.

He may have also meant 2nd round of a rookie/FA draft... he did say it was a dynasty

 

[Tanner9919]

Missing 16 games over the past two seasons combined with recent Tommy John surgery sounds like a



to me...

Delhomme was always one of those constantly nicked-up players, seemingly always dealing with nagging injuries...

I understand his talent level and his potential to do well, but there's a lot of question marks with this guy..

 

[FUBAR]

I wouldn't mind taking Delhomme as QB15, that would probably make him my QB2, so I'd be looking for upside.

Then, I'd probably grab Moore in the last round.

 

[Scooby1974]

The Delhomme owner wants to move him(he has Carson and Gerrard). I traded Jake last year for 2 second round rookie picks, ONE week before they announced he was out for the season. Now his owner wants to move him back to me. I'm thinking about lowballing him. Moore is on the FA list so if I could find room I'd be able to lock up the Car QB spot.

 

[menobrown]

While others are spending their top picks on QBs, sit back, relax, and continue to load up at the other positions. Delhomme should be sitting there, waiting for you in the 10th and he'll make a fine, ACCURATE productive, QB1.

You certainly practice what you preach since this is exactly the strategy you took in the draft we are in together. It's a strategy I tend to agree with as well and why I believe I was the second to last person to select a QB and you were the last. That being said I'm not sure I waited to long as I ended up with Garrard who I have a few reasons to be optimistic about but the reality of it is getting Cutler late was my hope and he went 5 picks before I took Garrard.Regarding Delhomme. He is one of those QB's I felt I could lay back and select as well but I knew if I waited so long on a QB that I was selecting him as my starter I would have grabbed another one fairly quickly since his performance and health are so risky. You are taking a giant leap IMO when you utilize the two game he completed last year as a basis for what he would have done over the course of the season. He certainly was not going to continue that TD pace. The stat I'd be looking at is he has only had one year as a starter were he put up the type of points per game I'd be comfortable with from my QB1 and that was 2004 which is sort of a long time ago. Than add the fact he is coming off a major injury and I don't think he is the kind of guy I would want to go into a season relying on unless I had a very solid QB1A or QB2 in place. Right now I'd rate Delhomme as a solid QB2 with some upside.

 

[kaa]

3600-4000 yards and 25-28 TDs sounds like a standout season for Delhomme and the Panthers and I fully expect to see a Top 10 season with upside.

I hate these types of predictions. Some people play in 10-team leagues, so while saying "he is gonna be top 10" sounds impressive, it really means he will be WORST starter in a 10-team league. Even in a conventional 12 team league, he's near the bottom. Now a true "boom" pick would be a guy that near the top in his fantasy position, imo. A good example is Tony Romo 2007. He had potential but never put it all together until last year, where he finished as the #3 fantasy QB.I mean let's be honest. When a team is looking to lock down the 10th-best QB in their fantasy draft, we're looking at a clubs that will be doing fantasy QBBC or something. This isn't exciting.

 

[Captain Hook]

3600-4000 yards and 25-28 TDs sounds like a standout season for Delhomme and the Panthers and I fully expect to see a Top 10 season with upside.

I hate these types of predictions. Some people play in 10-team leagues, so while saying "he is gonna be top 10" sounds impressive, it really means he will be WORST starter in a 10-team league. Even in a conventional 12 team league, he's near the bottom. Now a true "boom" pick would be a guy that near the top in his fantasy position, imo. A good example is Tony Romo 2007. He had potential but never put it all together until last year, where he finished as the #3 fantasy QB.I mean let's be honest. When a team is looking to lock down the 10th-best QB in their fantasy draft, we're looking at a clubs that will be doing fantasy QBBC or something. This isn't exciting.

I totally disagree with this - the intent of TL was saying that you could draft Delhomme late as your starter - thus be stronger than the other teams in your 12 or 14 team league (he doesn't play in 10 teamers either) at RB/WR/TE by drafting a QB late but one who will have decent numbers to support your team.There is a disadvantage with Delhomme in this regard - because of injury, you will either have to make him part of a QBBC (not a bad thing at all IMO), or draft Moore as a backup.....and he will NOT get you the numbers you expected from Delhomme - even if he was capable of it, they wouldn't let him loose to do it.Delhomme as part of a QBBC seems fine - he may even be like that guy in NO who in SD a few years before was drafted as part of some QBBCs only to emerge as the starter every week......but as rad says, Delhomme is Now getting drafted higher than he should for the injury concern and to be a great late pick - if you try that and someone takes him two picks in front of you THEN WTF do you do (and it happened to me at the end of last month).Good Post TL - so I will return the favor with my boom/bust pick of 2008 - funny all of them can be either: JohnsonJohnsonJohnsonJohnsonJohnson

 

[FUBAR]

Delhomme as part of a QBBC seems fine - he may even be like that guy in NO who in SD a few years before was drafted as part of some QBBCs only to emerge as the starter every week......but as rad says, Delhomme is Now getting drafted higher than he should for the injury concern and to be a great late pick - if you try that and someone takes him two picks in front of you THEN WTF do you do (and it happened to me at the end of last month).

Leinart/Warner

 

[Captain Hook]

Delhomme as part of a QBBC seems fine - he may even be like that guy in NO who in SD a few years before was drafted as part of some QBBCs only to emerge as the starter every week......but as rad says, Delhomme is Now getting drafted higher than he should for the injury concern and to be a great late pick - if you try that and someone takes him two picks in front of you THEN WTF do you do (and it happened to me at the end of last month).

Leinart/Warner

Would have - but Leinart already gone - I did get Warner to go with Garcia

 

[baconisgood]

On the one hand Dellhomme put up 600 yrds, 8td and 1 pick in 2.5 games lat year. On the other hand he did it against St louis/Houston/Atlanta. Steve smith has missed a handfull of games + a full year, DJ hackett struggles to stay on the field. Best case scenario seems to be QB7 or QB8. Worst case hes is rusty and weak armed and stinks it up for a few games or gets injured.

 

[David Yudkin]

I don't want to appear overly critical beacue I like to try to encourage people to post and utilize outside the box thinking.

But we are to assume that he will have a career best year coming off of major shoulder surgery with the team making a concerted effort to establish the running game and play ball control offense.

I'm interested to hear how many passing attempts Delhomme will have in this prediction, as he generally has been in the 430s or 440s (of course with the exception being 100 more attempts). His career TD% is 5%, and I would not expect him to stray from that too much.

I just don't see how post surgery on a supposed running team equates to career best numbers, but to each his own . . .

 

[FUBAR]

Delhomme as part of a QBBC seems fine - he may even be like that guy in NO who in SD a few years before was drafted as part of some QBBCs only to emerge as the starter every week......but as rad says, Delhomme is Now getting drafted higher than he should for the injury concern and to be a great late pick - if you try that and someone takes him two picks in front of you THEN WTF do you do (and it happened to me at the end of last month).

Leinart/Warner

Would have - but Leinart already gone - I did get Warner to go with Garcia

I may be WAY off base, but I sure wouldn't be taking Leinart before Delhomme in a redraft.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I don't want to appear overly critical beacue I like to try to encourage people to post and utilize outside the box thinking.But we are to assume that he will have a career best year coming off of major shoulder surgery with the team making a concerted effort to establish the running game and play ball control offense.I'm interested to hear how many passing attempts Delhomme will have in this prediction, as he generally has been in the 430s or 440s (of course with the exception being 100 more attempts). His career TD% is 5%, and I would not expect him to stray from that too much.I just don't see how post surgery on a supposed running team equates to career best numbers, but to each his own . . .

Drew Brees??

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

While others are spending their top picks on QBs, sit back, relax, and continue to load up at the other positions. Delhomme should be sitting there, waiting for you in the 10th and he'll make a fine, ACCURATE productive, QB1.

I like the player, not sure I'd go QB1 though. Great QB2 option.

 

[David Yudkin]

I don't want to appear overly critical beacue I like to try to encourage people to post and utilize outside the box thinking.But we are to assume that he will have a career best year coming off of major shoulder surgery with the team making a concerted effort to establish the running game and play ball control offense.I'm interested to hear how many passing attempts Delhomme will have in this prediction, as he generally has been in the 430s or 440s (of course with the exception being 100 more attempts). His career TD% is 5%, and I would not expect him to stray from that too much.I just don't see how post surgery on a supposed running team equates to career best numbers, but to each his own . . .

Drew Brees??

Not sure it's a great comparison although it's in the right ballpark. Brees was the first pick in the secord round coming out of school and 24 at the time of his injury. Delhomme was undrafted and an unheralded backup that was imported who is 33. Long story short, Brees had a better pedigree and got hurt well before his prime, Delhomme got hurt at a point when we would expect his numbers to be leveling off or on the decline.