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Team O Chess (1 Viewer)

Brownsfan said:
trying to get caught up on these with spOOfy. Should be able to contribute more once I can see where we actually are in the game. Any chance to list a move number with each move or have one post where all the moves are listed consecutively?
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The moves are listed in post 2 & 3 of this thread.

You can paste them into any PGN viewer to see what is going on.

Here's the first PGN viewer that came up on google.

Guessing it'll be easier to follow this way, since if everyone else's games are like mine, they will be lagging behind.

 
dancingbones said:
Brownsfan said:
trying to get caught up on these with spOOfy. Should be able to contribute more once I can see where we actually are in the game. Any chance to list a move number with each move or have one post where all the moves are listed consecutively?
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The moves are listed in post 2 & 3 of this thread.

You can paste them into any PGN viewer to see what is going on.

Here's the first PGN viewer that came up on google.

Guessing it'll be easier to follow this way, since if everyone else's games are like mine, they will be lagging behind.
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Thanks!

 
As white, e4, g3 or d4 are the three main lines for X, with e4 getting most of the attention.

 
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Psychopav said:
White

otello said:
kutta said:
otello said:
As black they should take the pawn.
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And we should return the favor.
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N or Q
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The queen would be the more aggressive move, wouldn't it? Until we settle into the more strategic elements of the game, keeping with the themes of aggressive/open white, and more passive black would be my preference.
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If our goal is to switch things up early and get out of "book lines," this would do it.

I would suggest taking with the N, but I am wide open to whatever the group wants.

 
4. Qxd4 is Chekhover Variation. I've been playing the Chekhover pretty regularly of late.

A couple points to keep in mind: the queen will not be safe on d4. Black will eventually be able to drive it off the square, gaining a tempo (often sooner rather than later) and forcing white to make a decision. It's for these reasons that the move is generally ignored by grandmasters. But there's nothing inherently unsound about the position. White will also need to be prepared to give up the bishop pair, which could become a liability if the game really opens up later on. From what I've seen, the most common replies seem to be:

- 4. ... Nc6 5. Bb5 Bd7 6. Bxc6 Bxc6 - black has developed his bishop to c6, giving it some scope in the center. White's queen is now slightly stronger on d4 as black can't gain tempo with the knight on c6, but white has given up the bishop pair.

- 4. ... a6 5. c4 Nc6 - black has prevented the Bb5 pin (and white has ignored it anyway with c4), gaining a tempo and forcing white to move the queen. White has strong central pawns on c4 and e4, and can eventually hope to push b3 to strengthen the c4 pawn. The c4 pawn can be pesky as black will likely try to strike on the c-file with Qc7 and Rc8.

 
White

Either of Tasker's lines would make for a very interesting game imo.

 
White

To be clear, I'm not really advocating Qxd4, but I'm just trying to lay out some general themes and things to think about before playing the move. The last thing I want to do is to convince the team to play an unfamiliar line to most, and then disappear for long stretches of the midgame.

I'm not sure I'd really classify Qxd4 as being more aggressive than Nxd4, for the simple fact that black will force the queen to retreat before too long. Nxd4 is the safer and well-theorized move. There's a reason masters play it at a 20:1 clip rather than Qxd4...something like that, last I'd checked. I think it's a lot easier to go wrong with Qxd4 than Nxd4, because Qxd4 is more uncharted territory.

 
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O as white

I am much more familiar with taking with the knight here. To that extent, for me, it is at least unusual to Q take here, if not aggressive. As a general matter, when you bring your queen out early, I consider that somewhat aggressive. I welcome other thoughts.

 
O as Black

Choices are castle, d6 or d5. I say castle, which is consistent with our passive approach as black.

 
White

Tasker's got a point here. If he's the most comfortable with taking with the queen, and we know he won't be around, unless DB disagrees we should probably stick with the program and go with Nxd4.

Black

I agree with Otello's recommendation to castle.

 
O as black

They played e4

d6 is the preferred response. Please comment.

 
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O as white.

They played Nf6.

Immediate reaction is Nc3. f3 is intriguing.

 
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White:

Nc3 is standard and I think it's the best here.

Black:

Agree we need to get moving on pawns and agree d6 is best

Eta: NC3 is correct, not nf3 which I had originally typed.

 
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kutta said:
White:

Nc3 is standard and I think it's the best here.

Black:

Agree we need to get moving on pawns and agree d6 is best
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This is consensus, currently.

 
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Black

This seems like it should be a pretty significant move for us. e5 is by far the most popular response.

 
otello said:
O as black - they played Be2

We have transposed into: E91 King's Indian, 6.Be2

e5 is the most common response

O as white - they played a6

B90: Silician, Najdorf

we have several choices here: Be2, Bg5, Be3 or Bc4 (there are others)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicilian_Defence,_Najdorf_Variation
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Black:

I like e5 here as black. We need to keep in mind that they can greatly simplify by playing 7. dxe, dxe, qxq, rxq. Getting the queens off the board makes the game much simpler. This might be OK, but if we are looking for a complex game, we may want to try something like c6, nd7, or bg4 instead. But with that said, I like e5 better.

White:

I think Bg5 is the most aggressive move here, and the best one.

 
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