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The only other thing I'm thinking is g5. They will play bg3 and maybe then we could play ng6 or c6. I think we would need to leave the knight on h6 if we play g5 to dissuade them from playing h4 (we take their g pawn).
I agree. I think Ne4 is the move here. It opens up lots of tricky mates and traps for his queen.
I think reserving where our bishop will go is important right now. If we play Ne4 and they play h6, we have a very cool line where we can play Bb5. Follow that through for awhile and it's pretty interesting.
I'm going to be drinking some bourbon on my back patio tonight, so you should probably disregard most of what I say.
don't worry, you are already on record.
See above
That's a real possibility. I think bc5, be7, and h6 are also possible. I'm not sure how some of those play out.
We are out of any book here. Only games I could find have, c5, c6 or Bh6 as options, with no clear move identified. I am not sure I like Bh6, especially if they push the g pawn to g5, instead of move the Q to c2.
We really need to analyze Bb5 here. There are so many attacks it's making my head spin going through them.
I agree on Bh6. I think I like c6 best here. They may be planning to castle queenside and with c6 we would pretty much force one file over there to open up. But I'm not hard over on it
Did you go through the permutations on Bb5? If so, what don't you like.
If they take the b Bishop we take with the Knight and could end up with three pieces for a queen. If they take the g Bishop, I think we take with the Queen and still have a great attack going (plan for 0-0, Knight sacrifice in there somewhere, etc.). It is just really interesting.
So, I see this happening - which leaves us down 2 bishops & with an attack that can be handled
I think we would take the Knight on d7 before taking the pawn with the queen. We could also then take the pawn with the Knight, or even 0-0.
That whole line is probably not going to happen like that, but I could see something like this, which still puts us in a good position, IMO.
I'm in if we want to go this way. We have to be prepared for the possibility of them taking the three pieces for their queen.
I've found a way to copy & paste without the formatting, so this will be cleaner going forward.
So consensus around c6? Bear with me: if we play c5, and they take en passant, we would be in the same position if they took after c5 (i.e., we take back with the b pawn or the knight). If, however, they do not take, we can start moving the knight on e7 over to the queen side (to b6, after Bd7); or we can play b6, which gives us a solid pawn structure.
The queen move was just a way to control that diagonal access to our protected king, right? So if they have designs along our king side, what do we prefer? Do we prefer a solid pawn structure on the queen side, or to force them to pay attention by parking the pawn on c5? If we go c6, we're just giving them more options, aren't we?
Once again I'm OK with either one. The reason I like c6 is because I think it reduces their options. With c5 they can decide if they want to take the pawn or not. With c6 we are telling them that we are going to bust things open and they don't really have a choice about it (things are going to be busted open). And the main reason I like c6 is because it forces either our c or b file to open up which gives us a direct line to their king if they do castle over there.
I am not inclined to do that as white, trade three pieces for their queen. My research indicates that Bh4 is the most solid move here, by a large margin. That is my choice.
If they castle queenside after c5 or c6, Bh6 pins the Q to the K; to make that move we should be sure that we come out on top in the resulting trades. Pinning the Q forces all of this, however.If they take the c pawn, assuming c5 or c6, what would you take with; N or p?
I like both. I'm thinking the pawn to help out the d pawn, but that isolates the a pawn. But c6 sure seems like a nice little spot for the knight.
I don't think they would do the trade because people are afraid to give up their queen generally.At some point we are going to have to make moves based on what we can see and what we feel is best as opposed to what the research says. What don't you like about DB's scenarios above?
