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[otello]

Nothing. If we take the pawn, etc, the queen will be.

What do you think black does after we take with Q?

 

[otello]

Keep in mind Bg3 or Bf2. Yes, more conservative, but worth considering. Of the two, I like g3. Protects e5 pawn. We should all agree that g5 was not a strong move for them; we should not immediately trade unless we gain material.

 

[kutta]

Keep in mind Bg3 or Bf2. Yes, more conservative, but worth considering. Of the two, I like g3. Protects e5 pawn. We should all agree that g5 was not a strong move for them; we should not immediately trade unless we gain material.

Or position.

 

[kutta]

Well, playing bxp, pxp, qxp sure does get exciting...

I like the look of this.

Just saw that they can play Qa5 and the get the pawn on e5. I think we may need to leave the queen on d2

What is protecting e5 right now?

I think if they take with the knight it opens some things up for us. Can't look right now. Also taking with the queen almost forces a queen trade which is bad for us I think.

 

[dancingbones]

Well, playing bxp, pxp, qxp sure does get exciting...

I like the look of this.

Just saw that they can play Qa5 and the get the pawn on e5. I think we may need to leave the queen on d2

What is protecting e5 right now?

I think if they take with the knight it opens some things up for us. Can't look right now. Also taking with the queen almost forces a queen trade which is bad for us I think.

E5 was protected before from a threat of mate, but with the bishop now blocked, I'd be inclined to go bg3 here. Would like to look at it some before finalizing, but that is my first thought.

 

[kutta]

Well, playing bxp, pxp, qxp sure does get exciting...

I like the look of this.

Just saw that they can play Qa5 and the get the pawn on e5. I think we may need to leave the queen on d2

What is protecting e5 right now?

I think if they take with the knight it opens some things up for us. Can't look right now. Also taking with the queen almost forces a queen trade which is bad for us I think.

E5 was protected before from a threat of mate, but with the bishop now blocked, I'd be inclined to go bg3 here. Would like to look at it some before finalizing, but that is my first thought.

Yeah, I see what you are saying. We need to also consider that they may play Bc5, and if we move the knight we can't castle. So Bf2 would help protect against that.I'm still looking at it too.

 

[otello]

Bg3 is the main response here, based on my research (100% win for white, with five games). The other response is Rb3, with one drawn game. I liked Bg3 before I did this research, I like it even more now.

 

[Psychopav]

You guys really want to dance, don't you?

To be fair, we also want to bone.

 

[Psychopav]

White

So I'm just on a free database at chesstempo and have run to the end of the line.

What happens after 14. Bg3 and is it a better move than Bf2?

I'm getting a little nervous about our rook on a1 and our king not getting any closer to castling. Need to be careful to avoid this too:

14.Bg3 Qxa2 15.Nc3 Bb4

 

[kutta]

I like their black move for us. Looks like these guys don't like castling

 

[otello]

O as black:

they moved b4.

I agree with Kutta here.

I think, perhaps, there were trying to prevent Qa5.

How about Bd7 here, protects c pawn, plus we can follow with Qc7 or Qb6.

 

[Psychopav]

Black:

a6?

 

[kutta]

Black:

a6?

I actually kind of like a5. At work though so I'll look more later.

 

[kutta]

O as black:

they moved b4.

I agree with Kutta here.

I think, perhaps, there were trying to prevent Qa5.

How about Bd7 here, protects c pawn, plus we can follow with Qc7 or Qb6.

I could live with Bd7

 

[Psychopav]

Black:

a6?

I actually kind of like a5. At work though so I'll look more later.

Yeah, I would think they'd follow up with b5 there, right?

 

[otello]

Black:

a6?

I actually kind of like a5. At work though so I'll look more later.

between a5 and a6, I prefer a5; we should consider Bd7 as well.

As far as white not castling, their pawn structure has serious issues on both sides.

 

[dancingbones]

O as black:

they moved b4.

I agree with Kutta here.

I think, perhaps, there were trying to prevent Qa5.

How about Bd7 here, protects c pawn, plus we can follow with Qc7 or Qb6.

I could live with Bd7

I could as well. Opens up a spot for our knight on e7 as well.

 

[dancingbones]

Black:

a6?

I actually kind of like a5. At work though so I'll look more later.

between a5 and a6, I prefer a5; we should consider Bd7 as well.

As far as white not castling, their pawn structure has serious issues on both sides.

I also prefer a5 to a6.

Sounds like it is between a5 & bd7.

Anyone have any strong arguments/lines for either one?

Edit: I prefer a5. Opens it up a bit and bd7 cuts off the Q from our weak pawn on d6. I think that one is gonna end up in the cross hairs of the knight on c3 before too long. Seems like our white B could have a nice line from a6 eventually as well?

 

[Brownsfan]

Black

a5 is my vote

 

[Psychopav]

Black

a5

 

[otello]

Black:

a6?

I actually kind of like a5. At work though so I'll look more later.

between a5 and a6, I prefer a5; we should consider Bd7 as well.

As far as white not castling, their pawn structure has serious issues on both sides.

I also prefer a5 to a6.

Sounds like it is between a5 & bd7.

Anyone have any strong arguments/lines for either one?

Edit: I prefer a5. Opens it up a bit and bd7 cuts off the Q from our weak pawn on d6. I think that one is gonna end up in the cross hairs of the knight on c3 before too long. Seems like our white B could have a nice line from a6 eventually as well?

The pawn on d6 is protected by the knight on f7. Plus, Qc7 as teh following move will protect the pawn on d6, plus given both our knights the opportunity to move to the queen side.

Conversely, if we play a5 and they take the a pawn, we take the with the Q, right? What is the continuation thought?

 

[kutta]

Black:

a6?

I actually kind of like a5. At work though so I'll look more later.

between a5 and a6, I prefer a5; we should consider Bd7 as well.As far as white not castling, their pawn structure has serious issues on both sides.

I also prefer a5 to a6.Sounds like it is between a5 & bd7.

Anyone have any strong arguments/lines for either one?

Edit: I prefer a5. Opens it up a bit and bd7 cuts off the Q from our weak pawn on d6. I think that one is gonna end up in the cross hairs of the knight on c3 before too long. Seems like our white B could have a nice line from a6 eventually as well?

The pawn on d6 is protected by the knight on f7. Plus, Qc7 as teh following move will protect the pawn on d6, plus given both our knights the opportunity to move to the queen side.Conversely, if we play a5 and they take the a pawn, we take the with the Q, right? What is the continuation thought?

With this kind of closed game it is hard to look ahead too far. In general I would like to bust open the queen side and get things focused over there. Our king is safe for now but if they decide to launch over there we could be in a little trouble. Their king is so exposed that it seems like with a little effort we could get some pressure going.

 

[dancingbones]

Black:

a6?

I actually kind of like a5. At work though so I'll look more later.

between a5 and a6, I prefer a5; we should consider Bd7 as well.

As far as white not castling, their pawn structure has serious issues on both sides.

I also prefer a5 to a6.

Sounds like it is between a5 & bd7.

Anyone have any strong arguments/lines for either one?

Edit: I prefer a5. Opens it up a bit and bd7 cuts off the Q from our weak pawn on d6. I think that one is gonna end up in the cross hairs of the knight on c3 before too long. Seems like our white B could have a nice line from a6 eventually as well?

The pawn on d6 is protected by the knight on f7. Plus, Qc7 as teh following move will protect the pawn on d6, plus given both our knights the opportunity to move to the queen side.

Conversely, if we play a5 and they take the a pawn, we take the with the Q, right? What is the continuation thought?

About as far as I can see is

...a5

15. bxa5 Qxa5

16. O-O?

Looking at the other move:

...Bd7

15. ???

It seems like we're marching to the beat of their drum here. It may actually be the better move to go bd7? There is a lot of pressure on b5 & it seems they can make something happen there. (bring some pressure with rooks & Q on the b file)

Gotta run for most of the rest of the night now. Will check back later.

I'm fine with a Bd7 here as well. It does make for an impressive cluster of power surrounding our K, that's for sure.

 

[otello]

Bd7 is a very passive move, consistent with our philosophy here as black. What if they play b5 in response though? We could lose a pawn. Will show work later.

 

[Psychopav]

In terms of passive vs. aggressive style, I agree with you that the bishop move is more passive. But in terms of DB's point I feel like that's much more of a march to the beat of their drum move. I think the king is very well protected and in a certain light forcing the action to the queenside actually helps to reinforce that by taking any focus off our king's little fortress over there.

 

[kutta]

I'm just not sure what Bd2 really does for us. I'm not sure that's the best spot for him and we don't really so much. I vote for a5.

 

[kutta]

I am fine with Bg3 as white.

 

[otello]

I am fine with Bg3 as white.

K and I agree. Anyone else?

 

[otello]

Black

a5 is my vote

Black

a5

Black:

a6?

I actually kind of like a5. At work though so I'll look more later.

between a5 and a6, I prefer a5; we should consider Bd7 as well.

As far as white not castling, their pawn structure has serious issues on both sides.

I also prefer a5 to a6.

Sounds like it is between a5 & bd7.

Anyone have any strong arguments/lines for either one?

Edit: I prefer a5. Opens it up a bit and bd7 cuts off the Q from our weak pawn on d6. I think that one is gonna end up in the cross hairs of the knight on c3 before too long. Seems like our white B could have a nice line from a6 eventually as well?

I'm just not sure what Bd2 really does for us. I'm not sure that's the best spot for him and we don't really so much. I vote for a5.

I am seeing a consensus around a5.

 

[otello]

Any other thoughts?

 

[dancingbones]

I like a5 as black.

I like Bg3 as white.

 

[kutta]

Sounds like consensus.

I'm travelling again so I might be a little slow for the next few days .

 

[otello]

I will make these moves.

 

[otello]

I like a5 as black.

I like Bg3 as white.

Moves made.

 

[otello]

I will be traveling as well this coming week, and will be available at odd hours.

 

[Psychopav]

I will be traveling as well this coming week, and will be available at odd hours.

Uh oh, make sure we don't forfeit!

 

[otello]

Don't worry.

 

[otello]

Nothing yet from x

 

[Christo]

 

[otello]

Steve, any thoughts on the games so far?

 

[otello]

O as black:

They moved b5

O as white:

They moved Qxa2

 

[otello]

Black

I like Bd7 here.

Alternatives include c5, cxb5 (they would take with knight, which would be a strong piece)

I do not like Bh6. They would likely move Q to b file.

White:

Rb3 is immediate reaction. I do not like moving our centralized knight on e4 to attack queen, although they could throw a check at us with the queen, which we need to consider.

 

[kutta]

Black

I like Bd7 here.

Alternatives include c5, cxb5 (they would take with knight, which would be a strong piece)

I do not like Bh6. They would likely move Q to b file.

White:

Rb3 is immediate reaction. I do not like moving our centralized knight on e4 to attack queen, although they could throw a check at us with the queen, which we need to consider.

Black: I like cxb here, especially if they take with the knight. The isolated a pawn could come back to haunt them in the endgame. And if we want to we can chase the knight away with Bd7. If we

play Bd7 now they could play dxc, we play bxc, they play a4 and we have an isolated a pawn and their b pawn is a passed pawn which sucks for us.

White: I really like rd1 here. I think the rook belongs there anyway.

My regular caveat applies - I'm not super hard over on anything yet.

 

[timschochet]

Hey guys, I'm really enjoying following these games. I'm thinking that, when it's over, we ought to have another tournament.

 

[otello]

Black

I like Bd7 here.

Alternatives include c5, cxb5 (they would take with knight, which would be a strong piece)

I do not like Bh6. They would likely move Q to b file.

White:

Rb3 is immediate reaction. I do not like moving our centralized knight on e4 to attack queen, although they could throw a check at us with the queen, which we need to consider.

Black: I like cxb here, especially if they take with the knight. The isolated a pawn could come back to haunt them in the endgame. And if we want to we can chase the knight away with Bd7. If we play Bd7 now they could play dxc, we play bxc, they play a4 and we have an isolated a pawn and their b pawn is a passed pawn which sucks for us.

White: I really like rd1 here. I think the rook belongs there anyway.

My regular caveat applies - I'm not super hard over on anything yet.

I could support Rd1 here. It does look natural there. Also, we saw this move as an option earlier in the book.

 

[Psychopav]

White:

Knee jerk, I lean towards Otello's Rb3 here, only because I'm a little concerned about the possibility of the queen getting pinned by their bishop a couple of moves along if we give up the B rank.

Black:

I was thinking c5 after that move, but looking at the board now, I tend to agree with the c6xb5 in order to start opening up the queen side.

 

[kutta]

White:

Knee jerk, I lean towards Otello's Rb3 here, only because I'm a little concerned about the possibility of the queen getting pinned by their bishop a couple of moves along if we give up the B rank.

Black:

I was thinking c5 after that move, but looking at the board now, I tend to agree with the c6xb5 in order to start opening up the queen side.

White:I guess I worry about qa1 ch. We have to our king to f2 which pins our bishop. I still think Bb5 is a good move and will take them by surprise.

 

[kutta]

Hey guys, I'm really enjoying following these games. I'm thinking that, when it's over, we ought to have another tournament.

Agreed Tim. Let's keep this going. It's a lot of fun.

 

[dancingbones]

Black

I like Bd7 here.

Alternatives include c5, cxb5 (they would take with knight, which would be a strong piece)

I do not like Bh6. They would likely move Q to b file.

White:

Rb3 is immediate reaction. I do not like moving our centralized knight on e4 to attack queen, although they could throw a check at us with the queen, which we need to consider.

Black: I like cxb here, especially if they take with the knight. The isolated a pawn could come back to haunt them in the endgame. And if we want to we can chase the knight away with Bd7. If we

play Bd7 now they could play dxc, we play bxc, they play a4 and we have an isolated a pawn and their b pawn is a passed pawn which sucks for us.

White: I really like rd1 here. I think the rook belongs there anyway.

My regular caveat applies - I'm not super hard over on anything yet.

I agree with all of this.

cxb5 black

rd1 white

 

[dancingbones]

Hey guys, I'm really enjoying following these games. I'm thinking that, when it's over, we ought to have another tournament.

Yep, I'm ready whenever.