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Teams Scoring 500 Points In A Season . . . (1 Viewer)

Anarchy99

Footballguy
I believe I may have brought this up in prior years, but heading into this season there were 23 teams that scored at a rate of 500 points per season in the SB era (there were a handful of teams that played fewer games, so I prorated them to 500+ points if they scored at the same rate over 16 games. Only 4 of the 23 wound up winning the Super Bowl that season. I only bring it up again because there were 3 teams that scored 500+ points this year.

2013 DEN 606 SB L
2007 NEP 589 SB L
2018 KCC 565 ?
2011 GBP 560 DIV L
2012 NEP 557 AFCCG L
1998 MIN 556 NFCCG L
2011 NOS 547 DIV L
1983 WAS 541 SB L
2016 ATL 540 SB L
2000 STL 540 WC L
2018 LAR 527 ?
1999 STL 526 SB W
2004 IND 522 DIV L
1968 OAK* 518 AFCCG L
2011 NEP 513 SB L
1984 MIA 513 SB L
1982 SDC* 512 DIV L
1966 KCC* 512 SB L
2010 NEP 510 DIV L
2009 NOS 510 SB W
1966 DAL* 509 NFCCG L
1994 SFO 505 SB W
2018 NOS 504 ?
2001 STL 503 SB L
1998 DEN 501 SB W
2015 CAR 500 SB L


Given that the 3 teams are still alive of the 8 teams remaining and they all have home games, the chances might be higher this year than in season's past that one of the high scoring teams wins the title. Also, given that the game has changed and teams can lose scoring 50 points in a game these days, we may not see a battle of a great offense facing a great defense like we have in other years.

 
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ZenoRazon

Footballguy
That 66 Chiefs team still one of my favorites.

Len Dawson leading passer

Mike Garrett second leading rusher.  Heisman winner.

Otis Taylor*** an amazing receiver and Chris Buford in the top four WR.

Johnny Robinson and Bobby Hunt tied for first both with 10 INT's.

The Chiefs scored 448 giving up 276. So an average game....32 -19.

And they were huge in the lines. Buck Buchanon 6-8ish. A HOFer.

*** This guy was out of Prairie View one of those HBCU schools, he was big and fast and seem to glide, so smooth.  He could play right now,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyKOuTwXKD0

In 66 he averaged a gaudy 22.4 a catch, best in the AFL by far.

He along with the 250 pound monstrosity Cookie Gilchrist&&&& and the amazing Lance Alworth had  NFL talent.

Lynn Swann (same HS at Tom Brady, a Cali long jump champ) is in the Hall of Fame with these career numbers

receptions....336

yards....5462

TD's...51

Taylor isn't in the Hall of Fame

410

7306

57

Something is wrong there.  Cliff Branch should also be in before Swann.

&&&& He went straight from HS to the CFL, then ended up with the Bills, the first 1000 yard rusher in AFL history.

 
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Biabreakable

Footballguy
The results of this seems to be running counter to the common narrative I heard on ESPN and so on recently in regards to new coaching hires and focus being on the offensive side of the ball, due to rule changes favoring the offense recently.

Yet according to your list high scoring teams that make it to the SB are more likely to lose it than win it suggests that something else besides scoring points is critical for winning the big game.

 

Anarchy99

Footballguy
All 3 teams that scored 500 points advanced, meaning that there is a 3 in 4 chance a 500 point scoring tram will win the SB. The remaining team that allowed the fewest points is NE . . . and they are the one team of the three that didn’t hit the 500 points scored mark.

 

Anarchy99

Footballguy
All 3 teams that scored 500 points advanced, meaning that there is a 3 in 4 chance a 500 point scoring tram will win the SB. The remaining team that allowed the fewest points is NE . . . and they are the one team of the three that didn’t hit the 500 points scored mark.
And the trend continues. 

 

rockaction

Footballguy
I believe I may have brought this up in prior years, but heading into this season there were 23 teams that scored at a rate of 500 points per season in the SB era (there were a handful of teams that played fewer games, so I prorated them to 500+ points if they scored at the same rate over 16 games. Only 4 of the 23 wound up winning the Super Bowl that season. I only bring it up again because there were 3 teams that scored 500+ points this year.

2013 DEN 606 SB L
2007 NEP 589 SB L
2018 KCC 565 ?
2011 GBP 560 DIV L
2012 NEP 557 AFCCG L
1998 MIN 556 NFCCG L
2011 NOS 547 DIV L
1983 WAS 541 SB L
2016 ATL 540 SB L
2000 STL 540 WC L
2018 LAR 527 ?
1999 STL 526 SB W
2004 IND 522 DIV L
1968 OAK* 518 AFCCG L
2011 NEP 513 SB L
1984 MIA 513 SB L
1982 SDC* 512 DIV L
1966 KCC* 512 SB L
2010 NEP 510 DIV L
2009 NOS 510 SB W
1966 DAL* 509 NFCCG L
1994 SFO 505 SB W
2018 NOS 504 ?
2001 STL 503 SB L
1998 DEN 501 SB W
2015 CAR 500 SB L


Given that the 3 teams are still alive of the 8 teams remaining and they all have home games, the chances might be higher this year than in season's past that one of the high scoring teams wins the title. Also, given that the game has changed and teams can lose scoring 50 points in a game these days, we may not see a battle of a great offense facing a great defense like we have in other years.
With due respect to your logic, this one didn't age so well, though I can see the reasoning.  

 

Anarchy99

Footballguy
By comparison, here is a snapshot of the best defenses over the years. It's a little harder to figure out what defenses to use and how to define things, as there was a lot less scoring in the 70s. So to try to get close to the same number of teams in the defense data set as the high scoring offense, I set the bar for teams playing in 1978 or later (when the league went to a 16 game schedule at 210 points allowed in a season (13.1 ppg). For teams prior to that, I went with a baseline of 166 points allowed in a season (which extrapolated would be 190 points in a 16 game schedule or 11.9 ppg). That yielded 29 teams vs. 26 teams in the 500 points or more scored data set. I listed the projected totals of the teams only played 14 games to a 16 game equivalent. Here are the results . . .

YR TEAM PA W L
1977 ATL 147 7 7 NONE
1969 MIN 152 12 2 L SB
1975 RAMS 154 12 2 L CONF
1976 PIT 158 10 4 L CONF
1971 MIN 159 11 3 L DIV
1971 BAL 160 10 4 L CONF
1970 MIN 163 12 2 L DIV
2000 BAL 165 12 4 W SB
1968 BAL 165 13 1 L SB
1977 RAMS 169 10 4 L DIV
1977 DEN 169 12 2 L SB
1973 MIA 171 12 2 W SB
1975 PIT 185 12 2 W SB
1966 GBP 186 12 2 W SB
1986 CHI 187 14 2 L DIV
2000 TEN 191 13 3 L DIV
1978 PIT 195 14 2 W SB
2002 TBB 196 12 4 W SB
1985 CHI 198 15 1 W SB
1978 DEN 198 10 6 L DIV
2006 BAL 201 13 3 L DIV
2005 CHI 202 11 5 L DIV
1992 NOS 202 12 4 L WC
2001 CHI 203 13 3 L DIV
1994 CLE 204 11 5 L DIV
1993 NYG 205 11 5 L DIV
2001 PHI 208 11 5 L CONF
1978 DAL 208 12 4 L SB
1996 GBP 210 13 3 W SB


This group won 8 Super Bowls and lost 4 Super Bowls. The high scoring teams won 4 Super Bowls and lost 10 Super Bowls. As a side note, there were a number of SB champion teams lurking right underneath the group listed above. There were 7 SB championship teams that were close to the mark that missed by a point per game or less (2008 PIT, 1991 WAS, 1990 NYG, 1978 PIT, 1974 PIT, 1972 MIA, and 1969 KCC). And how the best defense in terms of PA per game in the SB era missed the playoffs completely is one of the great mysteries of all time.

 
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Futeki

Footballguy
I suggest using deviation from the league average in a given year (PF and PA) instead of the raw point totals.

 

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