Golden Mike Tomczak
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Miami comes to mind. Not sure if Croyle is the answer in K.C.
CHIHere are the teams that could easily be in the market for a new QB1 or QB2BAL -- McNair/Boller/T. Smith BUF -- Edwards/Losman/HamdanCIN -- Palmer/FitzpatrickDEN -- Cutler/RamseyKC -- Croyle/HuardMIA -- Beck/McCownNYJ -- Clemens/PenningtonOAK -- Russell/WalterATL -- Redman/ShockleyCAR -- Delhomme/MooreDET -- Kitna/OrlovskyGB -- Rodgers/BellMIN -- Jackson/BollingerNO -- Brees/PalkoNYG -- Manning/WrightSF -- Smith/HillSEA -- Hasselbeck/Wallace
Think that he meant those four clubs marked only need a back-upGood list.
BAL -- McNair/Boller/T. Smith --- The ravens need a real QB to compete.
BUF -- Edwards/Losman/Hamdan --- Losman showed little improvement.
CIN -- Palmer/Fitzpatrick --- Not all on the QB, defense was horrendous. BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
DEN -- Cutler/Ramsey --- Also not sold on Cutler
KC -- Croyle/Huard --- This is a mess.
MIA -- Beck/McCown --- Even worse.
NYJ -- Clemens/Pennington --- Two decent QBs
OAK -- Russell/Walter --- Can the kid play? They paid enough.
ATL -- Redman/Shockley --- Just bad.
CAR -- Delhomme/Moore --- If Delhomme stays healthy they could be alright.
DET -- Kitna/Orlovsky ---- Kitna is a good QB but not so good at forecasting.
GB -- Rodgers/Bell ---- 75 career pass attempts?
MIN -- Jackson/Bollinger -- I like Tavaris, but he was lousy last year.
NO -- Brees/Palko ---- Brees seems solid to me.BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
NYG -- Manning/Wright ---- Superbowl?BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
SF -- Smith/Hill ---- Smith's time is running out fast.
SEA -- Hasselbeck/Wallace --- Still think Hasselbeck is underrated.BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
Chicago definately needs help as well. Grossman is terrible.
Not Kitna/Stanton ?DET -- Kitna/Orlovsky
Yeah, I think Stanton will bump up to the QB2. I don't think Det should make this list.Not Kitna/Stanton ?DET -- Kitna/Orlovsky
DEN and CAR aren't in the QB market. Seattle either.Think that he meant those four clubs marked only need a back-upGood list.
BAL -- McNair/Boller/T. Smith --- The ravens need a real QB to compete.
BUF -- Edwards/Losman/Hamdan --- Losman showed little improvement.
CIN -- Palmer/Fitzpatrick --- Not all on the QB, defense was horrendous. BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
DEN -- Cutler/Ramsey --- Also not sold on Cutler
KC -- Croyle/Huard --- This is a mess.
MIA -- Beck/McCown --- Even worse.
NYJ -- Clemens/Pennington --- Two decent QBs
OAK -- Russell/Walter --- Can the kid play? They paid enough.
ATL -- Redman/Shockley --- Just bad.
CAR -- Delhomme/Moore --- If Delhomme stays healthy they could be alright.
DET -- Kitna/Orlovsky ---- Kitna is a good QB but not so good at forecasting.
GB -- Rodgers/Bell ---- 75 career pass attempts?
MIN -- Jackson/Bollinger -- I like Tavaris, but he was lousy last year.
NO -- Brees/Palko ---- Brees seems solid to me.BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
NYG -- Manning/Wright ---- Superbowl?BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
SF -- Smith/Hill ---- Smith's time is running out fast.
SEA -- Hasselbeck/Wallace --- Still think Hasselbeck is underrated.BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
Chicago definately needs help as well. Grossman is terrible.
Yeah the Panthers can always give Vinny a call if needed..DEN and CAR aren't in the QB market. Seattle either.Think that he meant those four clubs marked only need a back-upGood list.
BAL -- McNair/Boller/T. Smith --- The ravens need a real QB to compete.
BUF -- Edwards/Losman/Hamdan --- Losman showed little improvement.
CIN -- Palmer/Fitzpatrick --- Not all on the QB, defense was horrendous. BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
DEN -- Cutler/Ramsey --- Also not sold on Cutler
KC -- Croyle/Huard --- This is a mess.
MIA -- Beck/McCown --- Even worse.
NYJ -- Clemens/Pennington --- Two decent QBs
OAK -- Russell/Walter --- Can the kid play? They paid enough.
ATL -- Redman/Shockley --- Just bad.
CAR -- Delhomme/Moore --- If Delhomme stays healthy they could be alright.
DET -- Kitna/Orlovsky ---- Kitna is a good QB but not so good at forecasting.
GB -- Rodgers/Bell ---- 75 career pass attempts?
MIN -- Jackson/Bollinger -- I like Tavaris, but he was lousy last year.
NO -- Brees/Palko ---- Brees seems solid to me.BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
NYG -- Manning/Wright ---- Superbowl?BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
SF -- Smith/Hill ---- Smith's time is running out fast.
SEA -- Hasselbeck/Wallace --- Still think Hasselbeck is underrated.BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
Chicago definately needs help as well. Grossman is terrible.
NO is definitely looking for a QB2. Reports are that they've been talking to Mark Brunell recently.Good list.
NO -- Brees/Palko ---- Brees seems solid to me.
I am starting to question Fitzpatrick’s value when they tender him at such a low level. Maybe the Bengals feel like Jeff Rowe or Carson's little bro will play just as well. I will take solace in the fact that teams don't always give late draft picks a fair shot see Derek Anderson. Vikings are/were willing to give up 3rd for Sage Rosenfels and IIRC, they gave up 6th rounders for Bollinger and Holcomb. Hmmm...Fitzpatrick entered the NFL in 2005 as a seventh-round draft choice of St. Louis, and his Bengals tender is at a dollar amount which qualifies as his “draft-status level.” Therefore, if he signs elsewhere and the Bengals decline to match, the Bengals will be compensated his new team’s seventh-round choice in the 2008 draft.
Think that he meant those four clubs marked only need a back-upGood list.
BAL -- McNair/Boller/T. Smith --- The ravens need a real QB to compete.
BUF -- Edwards/Losman/Hamdan --- Losman showed little improvement.
CIN -- Palmer/Fitzpatrick --- Not all on the QB, defense was horrendous. BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
DEN -- Cutler/Ramsey --- Also not sold on Cutler
KC -- Croyle/Huard --- This is a mess.
MIA -- Beck/McCown --- Even worse.
NYJ -- Clemens/Pennington --- Two decent QBs
OAK -- Russell/Walter --- Can the kid play? They paid enough.
ATL -- Redman/Shockley --- Just bad.
CAR -- Delhomme/Moore --- If Delhomme stays healthy they could be alright.
DET -- Kitna/Orlovsky ---- Kitna is a good QB but not so good at forecasting.
GB -- Rodgers/Bell ---- 75 career pass attempts?
MIN -- Jackson/Bollinger -- I like Tavaris, but he was lousy last year.
NO -- Brees/Palko ---- Brees seems solid to me.BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
NYG -- Manning/Wright ---- Superbowl?BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
SF -- Smith/Hill ---- Smith's time is running out fast.
SEA -- Hasselbeck/Wallace --- Still think Hasselbeck is underrated.BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
Chicago definately needs help as well. Grossman is terrible.
Take your pick, I don't think Detroit would rule out adding a compelling prospect in place of either Stanton or Orlovsky.Not Kitna/Stanton ?DET -- Kitna/Orlovsky
Fixed.Kitna can't throw if he's got DE's on him in under two seconds. He was getting pummelled all last year, and Calvin was hurt. He still had good numbers.detroit needs a QB Offensive Line. Kitna is old and Stanton/Danny O are not the answer.
Hopefully Millen gets canned and they get someone in there that knows what there doing
Why are you writing Stanton off after one year?detroit needs a QB. Kitna is old and Stanton/Danny O are not the answer. Hopefully Millen gets canned and they get someone in there that knows what there doing
Why are you writing Stanton off after one year?detroit needs a QB. Kitna is old and Stanton/Danny O are not the answer. Hopefully Millen gets canned and they get someone in there that knows what there doing
So Cutler is? Sorry Jason, :bigredx: here mate.Sorry for the confusion, several teams in my list were meant as teams in need of a QB2. Obviously Eli, Matt Hasselbeck, Brees and Palmer are in no danger; nor are Rodgers, Delhomme or Russell for that matter.
They re-signed Volek not long ago and he played well vs INDY. I doubt they bring in anyone to compete with him.Chargers need a veteran behind Rivers and Whitehurst.
Yeah, I'm not getting the Cutler one at all, and as backups go, Ramsey is average. Cutler's stats in his first full season starting, 2nd year in league: 63.6% comp, 7.5 ypa, 4.3% TD, 3.0% INT at age 24For comparison:Tom Brady at 24 (first season starting, 2nd year in league): 63.9%, 6.9 ypa, 4.4% TD, 2.9% INTBrett Favre at 23 (first season starting, 2nd year in league): 64.1%, 6.9 ypa, 3.8% TD, 2.8% INTJoe Montana at 24 (started 7, played 15, 2nd year in league): 64.5%, 6.6 ypa, 5.5% TD, 3.3% INTSo Cutler is? Sorry Jason, :bigredx: here mate.Sorry for the confusion, several teams in my list were meant as teams in need of a QB2. Obviously Eli, Matt Hasselbeck, Brees and Palmer are in no danger; nor are Rodgers, Delhomme or Russell for that matter.
I missed the re-signing of Volek. Scratch my comments from above.They re-signed Volek not long ago and he played well vs INDY. I doubt they bring in anyone to compete with him.Chargers need a veteran behind Rivers and Whitehurst.
Dating back to college he is oft injured and being a from a local school he didnt impress me as a Top end NFL calibre QB. So I'm not writing him off after one year, I been writing him off for awhile. I think that if there is a regime change in detroit after another stellar 6-10 season than the whole QB tandem in detroit would be re-evaluated.Why are you writing Stanton off after one year?detroit needs a QB. Kitna is old and Stanton/Danny O are not the answer. Hopefully Millen gets canned and they get someone in there that knows what there doing, its way too early for that.
Any regime change will bring about player reevaluation, so that's not news. As for Stanton's assessment, I understand the injury concerns but from what I've gathered NFL scouts seem to like the way that his physical attributes should translate to the NFL. I wonder about using college performance anyway, given how differently we've seen many QB's perform in the NFL versus college, e.g. Brady, Anderson, Romo, Hasselbeck, etc.bicycle_seat_sniffer said:Dating back to college he is oft injured and being a from a local school he didnt impress me as a Top end NFL calibre QB. So I'm not writing him off after one year, I been writing him off for awhile. I think that if there is a regime change in detroit after another stellar 6-10 season than the whole QB tandem in detroit would be re-evaluated.lord_helmet said:redman said:Why are you writing Stanton off after one year?bicycle_seat_sniffer said:detroit needs a QB. Kitna is old and Stanton/Danny O are not the answer. Hopefully Millen gets canned and they get someone in there that knows what there doing, its way too early for that.
Freudian slip there, Cutler is obviously also safe. But I do think Shanny wouldn't hesitate to upgrade over Ramsey if the opportunity presents itself.chook said:So Cutler is? Sorry Jason, :bigredx: here mate.Jason Wood said:Sorry for the confusion, several teams in my list were meant as teams in need of a QB2. Obviously Eli, Matt Hasselbeck, Brees and Palmer are in no danger; nor are Rodgers, Delhomme or Russell for that matter.
You can take the bengals off the list they have palmer/fitz/jeff rowe, and they like rowe. They didnt draft him that high to be third string.DEN and CAR aren't in the QB market. Seattle either.Think that he meant those four clubs marked only need a back-upGood list.
BAL -- McNair/Boller/T. Smith --- The ravens need a real QB to compete.
BUF -- Edwards/Losman/Hamdan --- Losman showed little improvement.
CIN -- Palmer/Fitzpatrick --- Not all on the QB, defense was horrendous. BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
DEN -- Cutler/Ramsey --- Also not sold on Cutler
KC -- Croyle/Huard --- This is a mess.
MIA -- Beck/McCown --- Even worse.
NYJ -- Clemens/Pennington --- Two decent QBs
OAK -- Russell/Walter --- Can the kid play? They paid enough.
ATL -- Redman/Shockley --- Just bad.
CAR -- Delhomme/Moore --- If Delhomme stays healthy they could be alright.
DET -- Kitna/Orlovsky ---- Kitna is a good QB but not so good at forecasting.
GB -- Rodgers/Bell ---- 75 career pass attempts?
MIN -- Jackson/Bollinger -- I like Tavaris, but he was lousy last year.
NO -- Brees/Palko ---- Brees seems solid to me.BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
NYG -- Manning/Wright ---- Superbowl?BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
SF -- Smith/Hill ---- Smith's time is running out fast.
SEA -- Hasselbeck/Wallace --- Still think Hasselbeck is underrated.BACK-UP ONLY NEEDED
Chicago definately needs help as well. Grossman is terrible.