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Tebow to Jets (1 Viewer)

I'm sure I'm probably in the minority but I like this move by the Jets. They've got Sparano as their new OC. They're going to run the wildcat. So why not go out and get an elite wildcat qb in Tebow? Remember when Sparano was with the Fish they wasted a 2nd rounder on Pat White for the same role. Here the Jets gave up a 4th rounder which is no big deal since they would of probably wasted the pick on another rb had they kept the pick anyways. The swap of 6th's and 7th's is inconsequential.

And why are people worrying about Sanchez? He's a big boy. It's his fourth year in the league. If he can't deal with the pressure of "Tebowmania," then he was never going to be a pro bowl qb in NYC anyways, imo.

 
'Sammy B said:
I don't know, count me as a Jets fan who likes the deal. Hopefully he'll light a fire under Sanchez. Brad Smith won some games out of the Wildcat a few years ago and that was really missed last year. Sporano has his piece now so let's see what happens. Are the Jets still a circus? Absolutely. I really don't see the difference between a big circus and a HUGE circus. Hard to really judge until the games are played, hoping for the best. Welcome to the fold Tebow.
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Agreed - thought I was the only Jets fan that likes the deal, if only to put some much needed pressure on Sanchez and add some creativity to the offensive game plan that doesn't have a ton of weapons.
 
Also by adding Tebow, the Jets just became one of, if not the most difficult, offenses in the league to gameplan for. DC's are going to have to basically gameplan for 2 different offenses when they play the Jets now. And their short yardage and goalline offense just got a lot better.

 
'FavreCo said:
'bro1ncos said:
For a 4th rounder according to Glazer
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That sucks. He could have replaced Gabbert by week 4. Now he has to sit and The Tebow thread will languish. The Jets are good enough to avoid the 3 game losing streak needed for The Tebow to take over.Elway must really hate The Tebow to send him to NY when he wanted to go to JAX. Or was it genius? Tebow in JAX is irrelevant. The Tebow Circus in NY could ruin the Jets playoff chances.
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:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: enough with the schtick

 
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'Dexter Manley said:
I'm sure I'm probably in the minority but I like this move by the Jets. They've got Sparano as their new OC. They're going to run the wildcat. So why not go out and get an elite wildcat qb in Tebow? Remember when Sparano was with the Fish they wasted a 2nd rounder on Pat White for the same role. Here the Jets gave up a 4th rounder which is no big deal since they would of probably wasted the pick on another rb had they kept the pick anyways. The swap of 6th's and 7th's is inconsequential.

And why are people worrying about Sanchez? He's a big boy. It's his fourth year in the league. If he can't deal with the pressure of "Tebowmania," then he was never going to be a pro bowl qb in NYC anyways, imo.
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Cheap way to motivate Sanchez.
 
'Sinn Fein said:
'netnalp said:
Sad thing is he's getting traded for issues caused by fans, not anything that Tebow has done. His fanbase is actually hurting him.
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How exactly is he being hurt here? He has gone from a clear back-up, to a likely starter in the media capital of the world. He'll make more money in NY, and have a wider audience to deliver what ever message he wants.
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The mess the Jets are, I think Tebow's chances of succeeding drop. Tebow may become the starter, but I see the team imploding as a result.
 
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'Dexter Manley said:
I'm sure I'm probably in the minority but I like this move by the Jets. They've got Sparano as their new OC. They're going to run the wildcat. So why not go out and get an elite wildcat qb in Tebow? Remember when Sparano was with the Fish they wasted a 2nd rounder on Pat White for the same role. Here the Jets gave up a 4th rounder which is no big deal since they would of probably wasted the pick on another rb had they kept the pick anyways. The swap of 6th's and 7th's is inconsequential.And why are people worrying about Sanchez? He's a big boy. It's his fourth year in the league. If he can't deal with the pressure of "Tebowmania," then he was never going to be a pro bowl qb in NYC anyways, imo.
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This. And by midseason I expect they'll be using the wildcat "often".
 
'Dr. Awesome said:
Actually, running quarterbacks do help the running game. You can continue with your Tebow and I won't disagree with much...but yes, Tebow did help Denver's running game.
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Running GAME, yes. Running BACKS, no.McGahee -4 starts prior to Tebow - averaged 95.3 rushing, 1.5 receptions for a few yards, .5 TD per game10 start with Tebow - averaged 81.5 rushing, .1 reception for 2 yards, .3 TD per gameRunning GAME improved, running BACK didn't.
 
'BusterTBronco said:
'bro1ncos said:
Now on NFL NetworkDenver gets 4th and 6thJets get Tebow and 7thGreat deal for Broncos IMO. Much more than I thought they would get.
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Great deal? The Broncos drafted him in the first round. Tebow almost single handedly turns around a horrible season and gives the team their first appearance (and playoff win) in many years. He's the most popular athlete on the planet. And all they get is a stinking 4th and 6th rounder?
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Almost single handedly? In five of Tebow's seven wins the defense surrendered 15 points or less.
 
I can't wait to see how happy Santonio Holmes will be with Tebow throwing to him. :lmao:

And :lmao: :lmao: at shader thinking that Tebow was an accurate passer in college.

That second spot in the AFC East has Buffalo's name written all over it this year.

 
'Dexter Manley said:
Also by adding Tebow, the Jets just became one of, if not the most difficult, offenses in the league to gameplan for. DC's are going to have to basically gameplan for 2 different offenses when they play the Jets now. And their short yardage and goalline offense just got a lot better.
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Do you think that's how he'll be used in NY? I don't know how to read the move?! Was this to light a fire under Sanchez, or was this to create a new wrinkle in the offense from day 1?If it's the later, I have to think this hurts both Sanchez and Greene, no?
 
'matttyl said:
'Dr. Awesome said:
Actually, running quarterbacks do help the running game. You can continue with your Tebow and I won't disagree with much...but yes, Tebow did help Denver's running game.
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Running GAME, yes. Running BACKS, no.McGahee -4 starts prior to Tebow - averaged 95.3 rushing, 1.5 receptions for a few yards, .5 TD per game10 start with Tebow - averaged 81.5 rushing, .1 reception for 2 yards, .3 TD per gameRunning GAME improved, running BACK didn't.
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McGahee averaged 3.75 ypc the first four games with Orton and 5.2 ypc the rest of the way with Tebow, though. He was also banged up and hurt quite a bit the whole second half of the season, starting with the first KC game - I think that was probably the main reason his ypg declined.
 
'Dexter Manley said:
Also by adding Tebow, the Jets just became one of, if not the most difficult, offenses in the league to gameplan for. DC's are going to have to basically gameplan for 2 different offenses when they play the Jets now. And their short yardage and goalline offense just got a lot better.
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The Pats already showed how to gameplan for Tebow, and it's not like the Sanchez-led Jets were befuddling defensive coordinators around the league.
 
'Dexter Manley said:
Also by adding Tebow, the Jets just became one of, if not the most difficult, offenses in the league to gameplan for. DC's are going to have to basically gameplan for 2 different offenses when they play the Jets now. And their short yardage and goalline offense just got a lot better.
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And the Jets offense will have to split their practices into two offenses negatively affecting each of them.
 
The only way I like this move for the Jets is if they trade him for more than they gave up. Don't see it happening

 
I honestly believe this crushes Sanchez' chances of future success in NY. As if the guy didn't have enough on his plate. Now you add a guy who fans are going to chant for at the first sign of struggling. Exactly what a guy like Sanchez needs! :loco: All because you want to have a wildcat guy? It's not like you needed to sell tickets. Sanchez gone in less than two seasons, Ryan gone within 3.

 
'GroveDiesel said:
I can't wait to see how happy Santonio Holmes will be with Tebow throwing to him. :lmao:

And :lmao: :lmao: at shader thinking that Tebow was an accurate passer in college.

That second spot in the AFC East has Buffalo's name written all over it this year.
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tim tebow completion percentage in college by year (06/07/08/09) - 66.7/66.9/64.4/67.8peyton manning completion percentage in college by year (94/95/96/97) - 61.8/64.2/63.9/60.37

HMMMM. :rolleyes:

 
Only bad thing for Tebow is the Jets have alot of me guys. Dont see alot of team/effort guys willing to buy in with the kid.

 
'matttyl said:
'Dr. Awesome said:
Actually, running quarterbacks do help the running game. You can continue with your Tebow and I won't disagree with much...but yes, Tebow did help Denver's running game.
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Running GAME, yes. Running BACKS, no.McGahee -4 starts prior to Tebow - averaged 95.3 rushing, 1.5 receptions for a few yards, .5 TD per game10 start with Tebow - averaged 81.5 rushing, .1 reception for 2 yards, .3 TD per gameRunning GAME improved, running BACK didn't.
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4 starts prior to Tebow - 3.75 ypc.10 stars with Tebow - 5.54 ypc.
 
'Possum said:
McGahee averaged 3.75 ypc the first four games with Orton and 5.2 ypc the rest of the way with Tebow, though. He was also banged up and hurt quite a bit the whole second half of the season, starting with the first KC game - I think that was probably the main reason his ypg declined.
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Not sure any of us are in leagues that award points for YPC, though I may be wrong. YPC went up sure, but carries dropped pretty well, as well as TDs.Anyway, how does this addition really affect Greene? Will it be similar (less carries, less TDs)?
 
'werdnoynek said:
'GroveDiesel said:
I can't wait to see how happy Santonio Holmes will be with Tebow throwing to him. :lmao:

And :lmao: :lmao: at shader thinking that Tebow was an accurate passer in college.

That second spot in the AFC East has Buffalo's name written all over it this year.
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tim tebow completion percentage in college by year (06/07/08/09) - 66.7/66.9/64.4/67.8peyton manning completion percentage in college by year (94/95/96/97) - 61.8/64.2/63.9/60.37

HMMMM. :rolleyes:
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And that's what happens when you only look at the numbers and didn't watch a guy throw.Do you have any idea regarding the types of throws Manning made in college versus the ones Tebow made? Tebow rarely threw the ball more than 5 yards down the field.

I like Tebow. I think the bashing of him is unfair. But he has never been a very accurate passer.

 
'GroveDiesel said:
'werdnoynek said:
'GroveDiesel said:
I can't wait to see how happy Santonio Holmes will be with Tebow throwing to him. :lmao:

And :lmao: :lmao: at shader thinking that Tebow was an accurate passer in college.

That second spot in the AFC East has Buffalo's name written all over it this year.
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tim tebow completion percentage in college by year (06/07/08/09) - 66.7/66.9/64.4/67.8peyton manning completion percentage in college by year (94/95/96/97) - 61.8/64.2/63.9/60.37

HMMMM. :rolleyes:
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And that's what happens when you only look at the numbers and didn't watch a guy throw.Do you have any idea regarding the types of throws Manning made in college versus the ones Tebow made? Tebow rarely threw the ball more than 5 yards down the field.

I like Tebow. I think the bashing of him is unfair. But he has never been a very accurate passer.
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numbers don't lie... i don't believe a word you just said.
 
'GroveDiesel said:
Do you have any idea regarding the types of throws Manning made in college versus the ones Tebow made? Tebow rarely threw the ball more than 5 yards down the field.

I like Tebow. I think the bashing of him is unfair. But he has never been a very accurate passer.
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This just isn't true. When he had Murphy and Harvin he threw bombs pretty regularly.
 
'matttyl said:
'Possum said:
McGahee averaged 3.75 ypc the first four games with Orton and 5.2 ypc the rest of the way with Tebow, though. He was also banged up and hurt quite a bit the whole second half of the season, starting with the first KC game - I think that was probably the main reason his ypg declined.
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Not sure any of us are in leagues that award points for YPC, though I may be wrong. YPC went up sure, but carries dropped pretty well, as well as TDs.Anyway, how does this addition really affect Greene? Will it be similar (less carries, less TDs)?
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He got banged up and they had fewer rushing attempts. It's not Tebow's fault McGahee got hurt. When he was healthy he was getting more yards. I simply pointed out a rushing qb helps the ground game. It does. But the rb needs to stay healthy to truly benefit. If Greene stays healthy and if Greene keeps his job then I expect him to increase his ypc as well.
 
'Sammy B said:
I don't know, count me as a Jets fan who likes the deal. Hopefully he'll light a fire under Sanchez. Brad Smith won some games out of the Wildcat a few years ago and that was really missed last year. Sporano has his piece now so let's see what happens. Are the Jets still a circus? Absolutely. I really don't see the difference between a big circus and a HUGE circus. Hard to really judge until the games are played, hoping for the best. Welcome to the fold Tebow.
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me tooJets are getting killed on the radio, but you have an O coordinator who was successful running a wildcat formation with Ronnie Brown. You essentially have one of the best wildcat QB's to play.If Tebow starts, then I think the Jets are in a world of trouble. If he comes on for 4-8 plays a game, i think it could benefit.
 
So now we're going to compare Tebow's college stats to Manning's? Stop. I guess I'm just imagining the time I saw every NFL analyst around calling Tebow a "project" at best in the NFL. Clearly they didn't see his awesome stats.

 
'duaneok66 said:
'gianmarco said:
'GroveDiesel said:
Do you have any idea regarding the types of throws Manning made in college versus the ones Tebow made? Tebow rarely threw the ball more than 5 yards down the field.
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Do you?

Peyton Manning:

1994: 7.9 ypa

1995: 7.8 ypa

1996: 8.7 ypa

1997: 8.0 ypa

Tim Tebow:

2006: 10.8 ypa

2007: 9.4 ypa

2008: 9.2 ypa

2009: 9.2 ypa

Tebow college stats

Peyton college stats
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ypa doesn't track the amount of yards the ball is in the air.
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:lmao: Ok, you win. All the numbers that point to Tebow being an accurate passer in college and not just throwing dumpoffs are all a big mirage. He is one of the most inaccurate passers of all time. His college WRs should be credited with all of his success because without him, his 3 yd dumpoffs would have never gone for over 3000 yds.

Happy?

 
'Wadsworth said:
'Football Jones said:
'Dexter Manley said:
I'd pay $5 to watch a live unedited video feed of Santonio Holmes hearing this news.
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Tebow made a stud out of Demaryius Thomas.
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I wonder if Thomas might have had something to do with that as well.
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Naw, anything good that happens involving The Tebow is all due to him and him alone. The others are just lucky to be a part of it. Kickers kicking game tying & GW 55+ yard FGs can't happen without The Tebow. Marion Barber being stupid can't happen without The Tebow. Onside K recoveries can't happen without The Tebow. Don't you know that?
 
I kind of like the move. Tebow will be able to handle it. For the first time, a New York athlete is bringing his own circus to play with the media circus.

It should be a catastrophe, but in typical New York fashion it will work out. Football-wise there were better places for him to go. But I think Tebow will be just fine, and the media will actually find positives and get along with him...which will frustrate Sanchez to no end.

 
I honestly dont see the downside to this as a Jet fan

Circus? Its the Jets - its going to be a circus no matter what

Sanchez? If having Tebow makes him not succeed he needs to go anyway - sac up and play

Backup QB - rather have Tebow or Stanton if Sanchez stinks it up or goes down?

Salary cap? Tebow is signed for cheap

Price to get him? 4th rder

Role in O - wildcat QB who will force defense to prepare for him - he ran over the Jet D in crunch time last year - think Brad Smith+

Where is the downside?

 
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