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Teenagers Are Watching Porn... (1 Viewer)

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...so should we teach them how it’s different from real sex?

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/teenagers-are-watching-porn-so-should-we-teach-them-how-its-different-from-real-sex-10159821.html?icn=puff-8

The results of a recent NSPCC Childline survey last week revealed the extent to which children were exposed, addicted and even making and using pornographic imagery and videos. It showed how for many children and young teenagers, porn is a part of everyday life. One in five young people surveyed said they had seen pornographic images that had shocked or upset them.

One boy under the age of 15 told ChildLine that he was "always watching porn, and some of it is quite aggressive". He said: "I didn't think it was affecting me at first but I've started to view girls a bit differently recently and it's making me worried. I would like to get married in the future but I'm scared it might never happen if I carry on thinking about girls the way I do."

The findings may be surprising but the new social realities of the internet and social media, and an increasingly sexualised offline and online environment, mean we must find new ways of tackling how we deal with and talk about sex.

Peter Liver, director of ChildLine, said: "Children of all ages today have easy access to a wide range of pornography. If we as a society shy away from talking about this issue, we are failing the thousands of young people it is affecting."

One way to help children better understand sex and sexuality is through good sex education – but while impassioned debate continues over whether sex and relationships education (SRE) should become mandatory in schools, there is an argument for going further: for discussing porn and other issues such as rape in schools.

SRE has been proposed as just one part of the Personal and Social Health Education curriculum in schools, which aims to “cover all of the skills and knowledge young people need to manage their lives, stay safe, make the right decisions, and thrive as individuals in modern society”. However PSHE itself is currently voluntary. PSHE should be mandatory, and sexual images, sexual consent, rape myths and issues surrounding pornography should be taught in secondary schools as part of this curriculum.

Loss of innocence and state control

In an article in the Sunday Times, education secretary Nicky Morgan flagged up PHSE as one aspect of the struggle for gender justice and equality. Part of this was teaching girls about “what a healthy relationship looks like and how to say ‘no’”. But despite endorsing it for all schools, she held back from talking about SRE and instead referred to resources from “expert organisations” that were “inappropriate, explicit, or clearly at odds with fundamental British values.” Instead they were working with the PSHE to develop a list of materials that would “give teachers more confidence.”

But confidence of teachers in not the point here – nor avoiding issues that are clearly affecting children. Technology safety filters are clearly not effective in preventing the ubiquity of children’s access to pornography. And the case can be made that SRE is a good idea, then why is it so difficult to introduce?

Shying away from a ‘moral minefield’

In a recent edition of the BBC’s Moral Maze, SRE was framed as a moral, ethical and emotional “minefield”. Critics discussing the controversies broadly fell into two opposing camps. The usual case was made for the preservation of childhood innocence – that children should be spared the details of adult sexuality for as long as possible. Teaching about pornography could legitimate it and, as such, SRE would contribute to the very problem of over-sexualisation which it was partly designed to address. Another case was made that sex education was itself to blame. Young women are now more sexually confident than ever, and when they are scared of sex they don’t get this fear from porn but from PSHE lessons.

The PHSE Association’s report was criticised as overly concerned with women and violence, and as hypocritical: the definition of consent was overblown; it over-complicated human relationships; and its recommendations were intrusive, prescriptive and conformist. If made mandatory, SRE is in danger of mobilising a state sanctioned view of what a “healthy” relationship is and is essentially an exercise in social control.

Both of these criticisms framed pornography and the industry that produced it as unstoppable facts of life, yet the misogynistic and gendered power aspects of consent, rape, and pornography were left unaddressed.

Pornography in the classroom

Christian Graugaard, a Danish sexologist, has argued that pornography should be shown to 15 and 16-year-old students under controlled conditions in the classroom (since 1970, sex education has been mandatory in Denmark and pornography is part of the curriculum in some Danish schools).

He insisted that if we don’t invite young people into a critical discussion about the misogynistic aspects of pornography we left them no yardsticks to make sense of sex other than those provided by the industry. Showing pornography was a sensible way of teaching teenagers that pornography is nothing like real sex. As porn is so available to teenagers, what Graugaard wanted was to make sure they “possess the necessary skills to view porn constructively” and “become conscientious and critical consumers”.

"Porn can even be feminist and in some cases it can be part of a democratisation of sex and [it can] promote diversity. But it can also be excluding – of body types, gender and sexuality. We want our kids to have exciting and gratifying sex lives, so an open-minded, constructive dialogue is the best way to make sure that they are able to make meaningful decisions for themselves, " argues Graugaard.

The ensuing debate took the predictable dichotomous format: teaching children about pornography will destroy children’s innocence, they’re media savvy, and to suggest they are adversely affected by pornography is to inflate adult anxiety into a moral panic.

SRE is in part the struggle for gender justice and equality. Graugaard’s proposal that showing pornography to 15 to 16-year-olds provides a forum in which this misogynistic and largely narrow medium can be visually demonstrated and critically discussed by teenagers. However, Graugaard’s good porn/bad porn distinction implies that pornography is a diverse genre, yet the majority of mainstream pornography is similar and hard-core in its narrative in eroticising the dehumanisation and degradation of women.

It’s our bad habit too

It’s not teenage sex that should challenge us morally; teenagers have powerful, erotic feelings which will find expression. I take the late 20th century societal worry over teenagers’ smoking as something of an analogous example. It was not only hypocritical but ineffectual to tell teenagers that smoking was bad for their health. Smoking remained a rite of passage to adulthood so long as adults preserved it for their pleasure alone.

In the furore of whether we should or should not bring the discussion of consent and pornography into the classroom, we should perhaps dare to shine a lens on ourselves. If pornography is legitimated as a grown-up pleasure, and not seen as a problem in terms of men’s (and some women’s) apparent appetite for the sexual dehumanisation of women, young people will bear the burden of our legacy.
 
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Great article. We seem to prefer to avoid anything remotely uncomfortable. We also really like porn and won't stop viewing it in large quantity. No way we do anything about porn except yell at kids and tell them to stop looking at it. Put the blame on the kid, like parents that drink/smoke/curse do when their kid follows in their foot steps.

 
Ew gross. Which sites are the popular porn sites? I mean, there are so many of them, I need to know which ones to avoid.

 
Great article. We seem to prefer to avoid anything remotely uncomfortable. We also really like porn and won't stop viewing it in large quantity. No way we do anything about porn except yell at kids and tell them to stop looking at it. Put the blame on the kid, like parents that drink/smoke/curse do when their kid follows in their foot steps.
I'm very concerned about the impact porn is doing to young kids and believe it's teaching kids a twisted idea of sex. I had my 14 year old nephew tell me he's into gagging videos and I assume he's seen everything that's out there.

Teenage girls must be having a difficult time distinguishing what they should allow a guy to do - after all the guy can just pull up a website and show her thousands of girls willing to do what he's asking.

 
Great article. We seem to prefer to avoid anything remotely uncomfortable. We also really like porn and won't stop viewing it in large quantity. No way we do anything about porn except yell at kids and tell them to stop looking at it. Put the blame on the kid, like parents that drink/smoke/curse do when their kid follows in their foot steps.
I'm very concerned about the impact porn is doing to young kids and believe it's teaching kids a twisted idea of sex. I had my 14 year old nephew tell me he's into gagging videos and I assume he's seen everything that's out there.

Teenage girls must be having a difficult time distinguishing what they should allow a guy to do - after all the guy can just pull up a website and show her thousands of girls willing to do what he's asking.
It certainly changes expectations. I will say that when I was 13 and 14, I was looking at a lot of Internet porn. So facials and stuff like that was expected and I found most girls were ok with it. I don't think it warped my opinion of women, but it certainly altered my perceptions of sex. I'm pretty normal though, it hasn't had a negative impact on me. I was just on the cusp of it though and it can only have a negative impact in the long run.
 
Great article. We seem to prefer to avoid anything remotely uncomfortable. We also really like porn and won't stop viewing it in large quantity. No way we do anything about porn except yell at kids and tell them to stop looking at it. Put the blame on the kid, like parents that drink/smoke/curse do when their kid follows in their foot steps.
I'm very concerned about the impact porn is doing to young kids and believe it's teaching kids a twisted idea of sex. I had my 14 year old nephew tell me he's into gagging videos and I assume he's seen everything that's out there.

Teenage girls must be having a difficult time distinguishing what they should allow a guy to do - after all the guy can just pull up a website and show her thousands of girls willing to do what he's asking.
It certainly changes expectations. I will say that when I was 13 and 14, I was looking at a lot of Internet porn. So facials and stuff like that was expected and I found most girls were ok with it. I don't think it warped my opinion of women, but it certainly altered my perceptions of sex. I'm pretty normal though, it hasn't had a negative impact on me. I was just on the cusp of it though and it can only have a negative impact in the long run.
I made this line of argument once, but then remembered that even in our sort of pre-porn days, girls would ask you to do that every so often for various reasons. But the televisual necessity of the facial has made it so ubiquitous that one can't help but think that the act of wanting to watch filmed sexual acts -- and that which it necessitates -- has completely altered our sex lives.

 
Back in the day, AOL had the best stuff for free. To this day, a dial-up modem gets me aroused.
Hell yes, to me, the sound of a connecting dial-up modem gives still me a half chub because I equate the sound of that to when I would have been grabbing the lube and kleenex/sock for a good ole AOL session.

 
Back in the day, AOL had the best stuff for free. To this day, a dial-up modem gets me aroused.
Hell yes, to me, the sound of a connecting dial-up modem gives still me a half chub because I equate the sound of that to when I would have been grabbing the lube and kleenex/sock for a good ole AOL session.
I see a scrambled tv screen and I'm looking for aluminum foil and the rabbit ears while unbuckling my pants.

 
In my days we had to change the TV to the scrambled station and hope for a glimpse... I think I just saw breasts! :excited:

 
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Back in the day, AOL had the best stuff for free. To this day, a dial-up modem gets me aroused.
Hell yes, to me, the sound of a connecting dial-up modem gives still me a half chub because I equate the sound of that to when I would have been grabbing the lube and kleenex/sock for a good ole AOL session.
:lmao:

Seriously, there was a "free" porn section on AOL, which was like discovering plutonium for teenagers back in the 90s. And waiting for it to load for like 2 hours was well worth.it.

We're spoiled with our HD, quick loading porn now adays. <_<

 
Back in the day, AOL had the best stuff for free. To this day, a dial-up modem gets me aroused.
Hell yes, to me, the sound of a connecting dial-up modem gives still me a half chub because I equate the sound of that to when I would have been grabbing the lube and kleenex/sock for a good ole AOL session.
I see a scrambled tv screen and I'm looking for aluminum foil and the rabbit ears while unbuckling my pants.
I remember we had a hot box, and I was able to once get a fairly OK signal on the playboy channel catching 2 chicks going at it.

That is a cherished moment.

 
Back in the day, AOL had the best stuff for free. To this day, a dial-up modem gets me aroused.
Hell yes, to me, the sound of a connecting dial-up modem gives still me a half chub because I equate the sound of that to when I would have been grabbing the lube and kleenex/sock for a good ole AOL session.
I see a scrambled tv screen and I'm looking for aluminum foil and the rabbit ears while unbuckling my pants.
I remember we had a hot box, and I was able to once get a fairly OK signal on the playboy channel catching 2 chicks going at it. That is a cherished moment.
Hope you had the VCR ready to roll.

 
Remember when the quality of your VCR tape started to diminish over certain parts that got constantly rewinded and paused?

Yeah, me either.

 
Great article. We seem to prefer to avoid anything remotely uncomfortable. We also really like porn and won't stop viewing it in large quantity. No way we do anything about porn except yell at kids and tell them to stop looking at it. Put the blame on the kid, like parents that drink/smoke/curse do when their kid follows in their foot steps.
I'm very concerned about the impact porn is doing to young kids and believe it's teaching kids a twisted idea of sex. I had my 14 year old nephew tell me he's into gagging videos and I assume he's seen everything that's out there.

Teenage girls must be having a difficult time distinguishing what they should allow a guy to do - after all the guy can just pull up a website and show her thousands of girls willing to do what he's asking.
It certainly changes expectations. I will say that when I was 13 and 14, I was looking at a lot of Internet porn. So facials and stuff like that was expected and I found most girls were ok with it. I don't think it warped my opinion of women, but it certainly altered my perceptions of sex. I'm pretty normal though, it hasn't had a negative impact on me. I was just on the cusp of it though and it can only have a negative impact in the long run.
I made this line of argument once, but then remembered that even in our sort of pre-porn days, girls would ask you to do that every so often for various reasons. But the televisual necessity of the facial has made it so ubiquitous that one can't help but think that the act of wanting to watch filmed sexual acts -- and that which it necessitates -- has completely altered our sex lives.
What were the various reasons?
 
Back in the day, AOL had the best stuff for free. To this day, a dial-up modem gets me aroused.
Hell yes, to me, the sound of a connecting dial-up modem gives still me a half chub because I equate the sound of that to when I would have been grabbing the lube and kleenex/sock for a good ole AOL session.
:lmao: Seriously, there was a "free" porn section on AOL, which was like discovering plutonium for teenagers back in the 90s. And waiting for it to load for like 2 hours was well worth.it.

We're spoiled with our HD, quick loading porn now adays. <_<
on our phone!

At the grocery store!

 
Great article. We seem to prefer to avoid anything remotely uncomfortable. We also really like porn and won't stop viewing it in large quantity. No way we do anything about porn except yell at kids and tell them to stop looking at it. Put the blame on the kid, like parents that drink/smoke/curse do when their kid follows in their foot steps.
I'm very concerned about the impact porn is doing to young kids and believe it's teaching kids a twisted idea of sex. I had my 14 year old nephew tell me he's into gagging videos and I assume he's seen everything that's out there.

Teenage girls must be having a difficult time distinguishing what they should allow a guy to do - after all the guy can just pull up a website and show her thousands of girls willing to do what he's asking.
It certainly changes expectations. I will say that when I was 13 and 14, I was looking at a lot of Internet porn. So facials and stuff like that was expected and I found most girls were ok with it. I don't think it warped my opinion of women, but it certainly altered my perceptions of sex. I'm pretty normal though, it hasn't had a negative impact on me. I was just on the cusp of it though and it can only have a negative impact in the long run.
Which is what I mean about girls not knowing what they should and should not let guys do. Any guy being honest knows that he's giving a girl a facial as form of dominate and to degrade her.

 
More kids see porn... Obviously, but just like anything else if you educate your kids they'll do a decent job of figuring out reality from fantasy

 
Great article. We seem to prefer to avoid anything remotely uncomfortable. We also really like porn and won't stop viewing it in large quantity. No way we do anything about porn except yell at kids and tell them to stop looking at it. Put the blame on the kid, like parents that drink/smoke/curse do when their kid follows in their foot steps.
I'm very concerned about the impact porn is doing to young kids and believe it's teaching kids a twisted idea of sex. I had my 14 year old nephew tell me he's into gagging videos and I assume he's seen everything that's out there.

Teenage girls must be having a difficult time distinguishing what they should allow a guy to do - after all the guy can just pull up a website and show her thousands of girls willing to do what he's asking.
It certainly changes expectations. I will say that when I was 13 and 14, I was looking at a lot of Internet porn. So facials and stuff like that was expected and I found most girls were ok with it. I don't think it warped my opinion of women, but it certainly altered my perceptions of sex. I'm pretty normal though, it hasn't had a negative impact on me. I was just on the cusp of it though and it can only have a negative impact in the long run.
I made this line of argument once, but then remembered that even in our sort of pre-porn days, girls would ask you to do that every so often for various reasons. But the televisual necessity of the facial has made it so ubiquitous that one can't help but think that the act of wanting to watch filmed sexual acts -- and that which it necessitates -- has completely altered our sex lives.
What were the various reasons?
Coitus interruptus, raw sort of desire, that kind of thing.

 
snogger said:
In my days we had to change the TV to the scrambled station and hope for a glimpse... I think I just saw breasts! :excited:
:goodposting:

I remember doing this with the dial on the cable box all the while looking over my shoulder to see if my parents were coming down the stairs.

 
snogger said:
In my days we had to change the TV to the scrambled station and hope for a glimpse... I think I just saw breasts! :excited:
:goodposting: I remember doing this with the dial on the cable box all the while looking over my shoulder to see if my parents were coming down the stairs.
When I was a teenager, the very first 24-hour pay-pay-view channels were just coming onto the scene. It wasn't really On-Demand, because the movies started at a specific time and you had to tune in to watch them. Every now and then, the first five minutes of the movie was clear, in an attempt to draw you in.

Later at night, they would play the Skinemax-type softcore porn flicks...the ones where the opening scene was some broad stripping down. When those came on, it was like a NASCAR pit stop trying to get one out before it scrambled.

There was also something called Rock Video girls, which was just videos of chicks stripping to classic rock songs.

 
I remember taking a trip to Europe and we stayed with family and it was like porn mecca for me. Now, I don't know how many of you have had a chance to watch TV in Europe but let me tell you, its not all conservative and puritan like it is here. I remember watching TV during prime time and there were movies that featured full bush and boobs. I vividly remember a yogurt commercial that featured a topless chick with a frontal shot. And late at night, the networks seemed to all break out the soft core stuff. The whole trip was me trying to squeeze in as many jerkoff sessions as I could. my #### was so chaffed by the time we came back I didn't touch it for at least a week.

The kids over there all seem fine. I don't know why we let the puritans run our networks here.

 
I remember taking a trip to Europe and we stayed with family and it was like porn mecca for me. Now, I don't know how many of you have had a chance to watch TV in Europe but let me tell you, its not all conservative and puritan like it is here. I remember watching TV during prime time and there were movies that featured full bush and boobs. I vividly remember a yogurt commercial that featured a topless chick with a frontal shot. And late at night, the networks seemed to all break out the soft core stuff. The whole trip was me trying to squeeze in as many jerkoff sessions as I could. my #### was so chaffed by the time we came back I didn't touch it for at least a week.

The kids over there all seem fine. I don't know why we let the puritans run our networks here.
Sure, all you need to know is that Rome was on HBO here but BBC 2 in England.

When I was a kid I loved it when my parents went to bed after the news and I could watch the Play for Today. Almost guaranteed nudity. And that was in the late 70s and early 80s.

 
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Green and Gold said:
It's so depressing that I couldn't be a teenager in this day and age.
:goodposting:
Porn, like anything in life, is more satisfying when you have to work to get it. I feel sorry for today's youth.
All joking aside, this is true. They have no appreciation of how difficult it was to secure a solid source of material. Most of us were lucky if we got a random Playboy or Hustler we could lift from an uncles house in the hopes he wouldn't notice. Nowadays, kids could spend 20 seconds on a standard search engine and boom, they're balls deep in the nastiest #### we could have ever dreamed of. Damn kids.

 
snogger said:
In my days we had to change the TV to the scrambled station and hope for a glimpse... I think I just saw breasts! :excited:
:goodposting: I remember doing this with the dial on the cable box all the while looking over my shoulder to see if my parents were coming down the stairs.
When I was a teenager, the very first 24-hour pay-pay-view channels were just coming onto the scene. It wasn't really On-Demand, because the movies started at a specific time and you had to tune in to watch them. Every now and then, the first five minutes of the movie was clear, in an attempt to draw you in.Later at night, they would play the Skinemax-type softcore porn flicks...the ones where the opening scene was some broad stripping down. When those came on, it was like a NASCAR pit stop trying to get one out before it scrambled.

There was also something called Rock Video girls, which was just videos of chicks stripping to classic rock songs.
Prism was the premium channel in Philly that had the Flyers and Sixers games. They also played softcore porn at 1 pm on the dot. You could set your watch to it. The best part was unlike the others hat had scrambled picture and sound that you had to hope for a solid negative shot for 5-10 seconds, Prism had in come through perfect sound and grainy picture. It was like watching an antenna TV with a bad recption but man that was a gold mine.

 
Only difference between real sex and porn sex IMO...my wife and I use a punch card, like they have at sandwich shops. Tenth one is free.

 
I remember taking a trip to Europe and we stayed with family and it was like porn mecca for me. Now, I don't know how many of you have had a chance to watch TV in Europe but let me tell you, its not all conservative and puritan like it is here. I remember watching TV during prime time and there were movies that featured full bush and boobs. I vividly remember a yogurt commercial that featured a topless chick with a frontal shot. And late at night, the networks seemed to all break out the soft core stuff. The whole trip was me trying to squeeze in as many jerkoff sessions as I could. my #### was so chaffed by the time we came back I didn't touch it for at least a week.

The kids over there all seem fine. I don't know why we let the puritans run our networks here.
Huge difference between nudity/soft core porn and deepthroat, gang bang, bukakke, tranny, 2 girls 1 cup, horses type things that are on the net. There's some really messed up stuff that most every teenager has instant immediate access to on their phone.
 
I remember taking a trip to Europe and we stayed with family and it was like porn mecca for me. Now, I don't know how many of you have had a chance to watch TV in Europe but let me tell you, its not all conservative and puritan like it is here. I remember watching TV during prime time and there were movies that featured full bush and boobs. I vividly remember a yogurt commercial that featured a topless chick with a frontal shot. And late at night, the networks seemed to all break out the soft core stuff. The whole trip was me trying to squeeze in as many jerkoff sessions as I could. my #### was so chaffed by the time we came back I didn't touch it for at least a week.

The kids over there all seem fine. I don't know why we let the puritans run our networks here.
Huge difference between nudity/soft core porn and deepthroat, gang bang, bukakke, tranny, 2 girls 1 cup, horses type things that are on the net. There's some really messed up stuff that most every teenager has instant immediate access to on their phone.
I'm 45 and still have PTSD from 2 girls 1 cup.

 
I remember taking a trip to Europe and we stayed with family and it was like porn mecca for me. Now, I don't know how many of you have had a chance to watch TV in Europe but let me tell you, its not all conservative and puritan like it is here. I remember watching TV during prime time and there were movies that featured full bush and boobs. I vividly remember a yogurt commercial that featured a topless chick with a frontal shot. And late at night, the networks seemed to all break out the soft core stuff. The whole trip was me trying to squeeze in as many jerkoff sessions as I could. my #### was so chaffed by the time we came back I didn't touch it for at least a week.

The kids over there all seem fine. I don't know why we let the puritans run our networks here.
Huge difference between nudity/soft core porn and deepthroat, gang bang, bukakke, tranny, 2 girls 1 cup, horses type things that are on the net. There's some really messed up stuff that most every teenager has instant immediate access to on their phone.
Yes, yes, sometimes, once out of curiosity, no, once out of curiosity.
 
I remember taking a trip to Europe and we stayed with family and it was like porn mecca for me. Now, I don't know how many of you have had a chance to watch TV in Europe but let me tell you, its not all conservative and puritan like it is here. I remember watching TV during prime time and there were movies that featured full bush and boobs. I vividly remember a yogurt commercial that featured a topless chick with a frontal shot. And late at night, the networks seemed to all break out the soft core stuff. The whole trip was me trying to squeeze in as many jerkoff sessions as I could. my #### was so chaffed by the time we came back I didn't touch it for at least a week.

The kids over there all seem fine. I don't know why we let the puritans run our networks here.
Huge difference between nudity/soft core porn and deepthroat, gang bang, bukakke, tranny, 2 girls 1 cup, horses type things that are on the net. There's some really messed up stuff that most every teenager has instant immediate access to on their phone.
I'm 45 and still have PTSD from 2 girls 1 cup.
don't know what this is - sounds like I don't want to know..

 
Now, I don't know how many of you have had a chance to watch TV in Europe but let me tell you, its not all conservative and puritan like it is here.
If only there were a series of tubes that would allow me to connect to such content.

 
I remember taking a trip to Europe and we stayed with family and it was like porn mecca for me. Now, I don't know how many of you have had a chance to watch TV in Europe but let me tell you, its not all conservative and puritan like it is here. I remember watching TV during prime time and there were movies that featured full bush and boobs. I vividly remember a yogurt commercial that featured a topless chick with a frontal shot. And late at night, the networks seemed to all break out the soft core stuff. The whole trip was me trying to squeeze in as many jerkoff sessions as I could. my #### was so chaffed by the time we came back I didn't touch it for at least a week.

The kids over there all seem fine. I don't know why we let the puritans run our networks here.
Hapi Jus is a popular orange drink in some European countries.

 
Yeah I know my daughter has seen some of that stuff. I tell her most of that stuff isn't part of a normal relationship and she shouldn't feel obligated to live up to what she sees and to only do butt stuff if he buys her expensive jewelry.

 

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