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Tennessee at Houston (1 Viewer)

Look at Bullock! He is "shot", no way I'd let him kick if I were coach. Did you see his face there?

 
Tate stopped for nothing up the gut. Bootleg but no WR's open, Schaub throws it away. TO Houston on 3rd & 10

 
Again refs let Schaub throw to no one to avoid a sack and don't call intentional grounding. Locker should have done this too if the refs were rolling like this.

 
Andre runs to the locker room. Play still under review.
any update?
Unfortunately no. It's now OT so maybe they let us know something. Texans win the toss.
Announcers just stated they tried to get info on him but have none to report so far.
thats not good, head injury?
Possibly. He took a shot from Bernard Pollard, shoulder to the head.

 
For all of the effort and analysis put into kickology, you'd think you'd get some predictability

 
Again refs let Schaub throw to no one to avoid a sack and don't call intentional grounding. Locker should have done this too if the refs were rolling like this.
Intentional grounding will not be called when a passer, while out of the pocket and facing an imminent loss of yardage, throws a pass that lands at or beyond the line of scrimmage, even if no offensive player(s) have a realistic chance to catch the ball (including if the ball lands out of bounds over the sideline or end line).
 
Ignoramus yeah I often forget that, but they do call intentional grounding some still in the NFL and I'm not sure anymore what applies I suppose

 
I wanna see the replay, I didn't think he got in. If so, second time Hopkins has some freakish body control.

 
Titans went away from CJ, so stupid after 77 yard first half.

Washington and Wright looked rrrreal good at times, why mess with Britt so much.

Second half game plan/adjustment was terrible.

I thought the Texans could play another three quarters and the Titans were dead tired.

 
Ignoramus yeah I often forget that, but they do call intentional grounding some still in the NFL and I'm not sure anymore what applies I suppose
:hifive: Schaub got called for it at least once last week for not getting it back to the LOS. This week it looked like he had it in the forefront of his mind to at least get it that far.

 
Tenn defense looks legit. Gotta be encouraged by that Tenn fans. They gave Houston fits nearly the whole game.

 
Does Houston even bother looking at their #1 receiver in the Red Zone anymore. Can we just assume Johnson is only good between the 20's?

 
I hope Hopkins realized something about himself today. Really think the Verner mistake fired him up and we saw a far better player than before that play.

I'm usually a big fan of Kubiak. I didn't like their offensive play calls today at all.

 
Locker did not throw to his WRs the way most NFL QBs do. I mean the routes, when to throw....it was like they had a dozen five yard catches and a few bombs with nothing in-between. I understand they dropped ten million passes last year, but this is junk. If he isn't going to make the throws then put Fitz in. I have no patience to pity this guy. I can't recall a single over the middle catch today. Surely you guys will remind me of some, but right now I'm disgusted. I'll felt bad for Bledsoe, Carr, and Couch when they get shellacked ten times a game, but there's no way I'm feeling pity for him-make the darn throws or sit.

 
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Locker did not throw to his WRs the way most NFL QBs do. I mean the routes, when to throw....it was like they had a dozen five yard catches and a few bombs with nothing in-between. I understand they dropped ten million passes last year, but this is junk. If he isn't going to make the throws then put Fitz in. I have no patience to pity this guy. I can't recall a single over the middle catch today. Surely you guys will remind me of some, but right now I'm disgusted. I'll felt bad for Bledsoe, Carr, and Couch when they get shellacked ten times a game, but there's no way I'm feeling pity for him-make the darn throws or sit.
had to go look, feel free http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013091505/2013/REG2/titans@texans#tab=analyze&menu=highlights&analyze=playbyplay

I counted "short middle" three times, nothing else.

 
Bri said:
I like Martin, he gives me the prototypical fear a PR should. They ought to get him more involved in the passing game if he's going to play like that.
He hasn't really done a ton as a receiver. A bit frustrating and inconsistent at actually catching passes, particularly if he has a defender on him close. But as you saw, he does have speed if he can catch it with some room to run.

 
Bri said:
I like Martin, he gives me the prototypical fear a PR should. They ought to get him more involved in the passing game if he's going to play like that.
He hasn't really done a ton as a receiver. A bit frustrating and inconsistent at actually catching passes, particularly if he has a defender on him close. But as you saw, he does have speed if he can catch it with some room to run
Well if they can get him consistent as a 3rd WR, slot WR to add to this offense that would be sweet

 
Bri said:
I like Martin, he gives me the prototypical fear a PR should. They ought to get him more involved in the passing game if he's going to play like that.
He hasn't really done a ton as a receiver. A bit frustrating and inconsistent at actually catching passes, particularly if he has a defender on him close. But as you saw, he does have speed if he can catch it with some room to run
Well if they can get him consistent as a 3rd WR, slot WR to add to this offense that would be sweet
it only took a decade to get a #2 WR...

 
Bri said:
I like Martin, he gives me the prototypical fear a PR should. They ought to get him more involved in the passing game if he's going to play like that.
He hasn't really done a ton as a receiver. A bit frustrating and inconsistent at actually catching passes, particularly if he has a defender on him close. But as you saw, he does have speed if he can catch it with some room to run
Well if they can get him consistent as a 3rd WR, slot WR to add to this offense that would be sweet
I think DeVier Posey, if he can stay healthy, will probably be the guy who ends up contributing as the third WR. He's active but the team is taking it easy with him, letting him regain some confidence and comfort in his knee after the injury last year. But I'd love it if Martin was able to factor into games like he did today. He's been a decent returner so far too.

 
So on the punt where there was the scramble for the ball...

Basically what the refs ruled was... when the punting team gets control of the ball, it is downed and the play is over. But if they just touch the ball it is called a "first touch" or an "illegal touch". It isn't a foul like a facemask is, but it is a violation like stepping out of bounds is. The consequences being that the receiving team has the option of taking the ball at that spot, or of taking the result of any ensuing play. If there are multiple touches by the kicking team before downing the ball, I believe they can even take the ball at the spot of whichever of those touches they choose. So once the kicking team illegal touches the ball, it's kind of like having a free play. You can try to grab it and run with it. Even if you lose the ball, you can choose to take the ball back at the spot of the illegal touch. The only exception is if the receiving team commits an actual foul (like a facemask) after the illegal touching. Then they lose the option and the play would stand.

It's the same on every punt, just you don't hear it explained and "illegal touch" isn't announced like an actual foul is, same as they don't announce the violation of stepping out of bounds with the ball. But you do see a ref throw a beanbag to mark the spot of a first touch unless the ball is downed at that spot as well.

Ok, so that is what Triplett ruled happened. Which is all by the book and correct. Though the NFL today said it was the wrong call though still the right result. They said the Texan had control so the ball was down before he threw it backwards to avoid the end zone. So the refs should have just blown the play dead and Titans would get the ball at the 1. Same result as how it ended up, though the refs should have just been whistling before the scramble occurred.

 

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