Terrell Suggs LB or DL (1 Viewer)

[ninremix]

Will Suggs be a DL or LB this year?

 

[tones]

Will Suggs be a DL or LB this year?

While this is good to know, does anyone know the process on designations for MFL. Do they have a date whereby they stop changing for the year?Thanks

 

[Multiple Scores]

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Depth_NFL.aspx?sport=NFL

You'll have to set to IDP and switch divisions to navigate, these the the depth charts they use, and of course they could be updated prior to the designation date.

 

[T Bell]

LB . . . or not LB! That, is the question!

 

[obxlegends]

LB . . . or not LB! That, is the question!

I'm assuming he'll be listed DE as he has been the past few seasons.However he's a LBer so there's the rub. It's possible it could change, but am not sure why it would after all this time. We'll see.

 

[Jene Bramel]

I went through the participation logs at profootballfocus last month (can't remember if I posted this here or not). Over a four game sample (games 1, 3, 4 and 5), Suggs was recorded as playing DE 151 times, LB 79 times and other (he'll actually line up at corner or near the slot in the nickel) 5 times. That's 64% of his snaps at DE. The rub with these tweeners is that they may get 50+% of their base defense snaps as a standup linebacker, but the percentage of DE (or DT) snaps in the nickel skews their percentages one way or another.

I haven't run samples on guys like Calvin Pace or Demarcus Ware, and I have yet to run numbers on Suggs when the Ravens base personnel is on the field. Maybe I'll try to work on that this week.

For now, the numbers above, the Rotoworld depth chart and past history strongly suggests that Suggs will remain designated at DE.

 

[Ysatnaf_Gnik]

I went through the participation logs at profootballfocus last month (can't remember if I posted this here or not). Over a four game sample (games 1, 3, 4 and 5), Suggs was recorded as playing DE 151 times, LB 79 times and other (he'll actually line up at corner or near the slot in the nickel) 5 times. That's 64% of his snaps at DE. The rub with these tweeners is that they may get 50+% of their base defense snaps as a standup linebacker, but the percentage of DE (or DT) snaps in the nickel skews their percentages one way or another.I haven't run samples on guys like Calvin Pace or Demarcus Ware, and I have yet to run numbers on Suggs when the Ravens base personnel is on the field. Maybe I'll try to work on that this week.For now, the numbers above, the Rotoworld depth chart and past history strongly suggests that Suggs will remain designated at DE.

Do you think there is a chance Kampman could also stay listed as a DE on MFL?

 

[tones]

I went through the participation logs at profootballfocus last month (can't remember if I posted this here or not). Over a four game sample (games 1, 3, 4 and 5), Suggs was recorded as playing DE 151 times, LB 79 times and other (he'll actually line up at corner or near the slot in the nickel) 5 times. That's 64% of his snaps at DE. The rub with these tweeners is that they may get 50+% of their base defense snaps as a standup linebacker, but the percentage of DE (or DT) snaps in the nickel skews their percentages one way or another.I haven't run samples on guys like Calvin Pace or Demarcus Ware, and I have yet to run numbers on Suggs when the Ravens base personnel is on the field. Maybe I'll try to work on that this week.For now, the numbers above, the Rotoworld depth chart and past history strongly suggests that Suggs will remain designated at DE.

Ok, so MFL looks at snaps by position? How often do they do that with IDP? Are these set before the season starts or can these be changed during the season?

 

[Tecmo]

I went through the participation logs at profootballfocus last month (can't remember if I posted this here or not). Over a four game sample (games 1, 3, 4 and 5), Suggs was recorded as playing DE 151 times, LB 79 times and other (he'll actually line up at corner or near the slot in the nickel) 5 times. That's 64% of his snaps at DE. The rub with these tweeners is that they may get 50+% of their base defense snaps as a standup linebacker, but the percentage of DE (or DT) snaps in the nickel skews their percentages one way or another.I haven't run samples on guys like Calvin Pace or Demarcus Ware, and I have yet to run numbers on Suggs when the Ravens base personnel is on the field. Maybe I'll try to work on that this week.For now, the numbers above, the Rotoworld depth chart and past history strongly suggests that Suggs will remain designated at DE.

I posed a question on Rotoworld forum on how they handle DE/OLB hybrids. Rotoworld said they essentially classify the hybrids to the position the player plays the majority of their snaps. This seems to cement Suggs as a DE

 

[Jene Bramel]

I went through the participation logs at profootballfocus last month (can't remember if I posted this here or not). Over a four game sample (games 1, 3, 4 and 5), Suggs was recorded as playing DE 151 times, LB 79 times and other (he'll actually line up at corner or near the slot in the nickel) 5 times. That's 64% of his snaps at DE. The rub with these tweeners is that they may get 50+% of their base defense snaps as a standup linebacker, but the percentage of DE (or DT) snaps in the nickel skews their percentages one way or another.I haven't run samples on guys like Calvin Pace or Demarcus Ware, and I have yet to run numbers on Suggs when the Ravens base personnel is on the field. Maybe I'll try to work on that this week.For now, the numbers above, the Rotoworld depth chart and past history strongly suggests that Suggs will remain designated at DE.

Ok, so MFL looks at snaps by position? How often do they do that with IDP? Are these set before the season starts or can these be changed during the season?

MFL changes their database according to the Rotoworld depth charts. MFL was very receptive to our arguments on Justin Smith last season based on preseason snap counts by alignment. Generally speaking, MFL changes are made around the third week of the preseason and, barring any grassroots push like last season, they're permanent. Commissioners can override the changes if they wish.

 

[Jene Bramel]

I went through the participation logs at profootballfocus last month (can't remember if I posted this here or not). Over a four game sample (games 1, 3, 4 and 5), Suggs was recorded as playing DE 151 times, LB 79 times and other (he'll actually line up at corner or near the slot in the nickel) 5 times. That's 64% of his snaps at DE. The rub with these tweeners is that they may get 50+% of their base defense snaps as a standup linebacker, but the percentage of DE (or DT) snaps in the nickel skews their percentages one way or another.I haven't run samples on guys like Calvin Pace or Demarcus Ware, and I have yet to run numbers on Suggs when the Ravens base personnel is on the field. Maybe I'll try to work on that this week.For now, the numbers above, the Rotoworld depth chart and past history strongly suggests that Suggs will remain designated at DE.

Do you think there is a chance Kampman could also stay listed as a DE on MFL?

Every offseason note about Kampman has been about his transition from DE to LB, the Capers defense isn't a hybrid on base downs and Rotowold lists him at OLB. Based on previous seasons, I don't think there's any chance Kampman's default MFL designation will be DE.

 

[Jene Bramel]

This isn't a very scientific study, but here's a look at where profootballfocus has Suggs aligned in the four games I looked at above (W1, 3, 4, and 5). For the simple purposes of this discussion, I ignored all plays where the Ravens brought in an extra secondary player as subpackage snaps and considered the rest a part of the base defensive package. Baltimore may well disagree that the snaps left over are all base defensive snaps.

Over the full four game period, the Ravens played 122 of their 235 defensive snaps (52%) with their "base defensive" personnel. Suggs aligned at a defensive end position 54% of those snaps, outside linebacker 41% of those snaps and somewhere else on 5%. As expected, his "base defensive" DE snap percentage was lower than his total DE snap percentage (54% to 64%).