Texas Forced Woman to Deliver a Stillborn Baby (1 Viewer)

[BigSteelThrill]

Conservative brilliance!

 

Twenty weeks into Taylor Mahaffey’s pregnancy, her baby started emerging from her womb, with doctors powerless to stop it—and because of Texas’s fetal pain law, all the hospital could do was send her home.

Daniel and Taylor Mahaffey were 20 weeks pregnant and desperately wanted their child, but when doctors informed them a complication meant the fetus had no chance of survival, they just wanted their baby’s suffering to end. Yet because of their state’s "fetal pain" law, the married Texans say they were forced to endure a stillbirth and wait as their baby slowly died in utero.

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Nothing could save him.
Heartbroken, the Mahaffeys asked about their options. “The only humane thing to do at that point would be to pop the sack, and let little Fox come into this world too early to survive outside,”

The doctors and nurses at St. David’s Medical Center in Austin cried with them, but said because of Texas law HB2, they could not help speed Taylor’s labor.

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their last pregnancy ended in miscarriage,

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“Eventually she was just screaming at them to get the child out of her,” Daniel said.

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/31/texas-forced-this-woman-to-deliver-a-stillborn-baby.html

 

[Tom Servo]

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I know.  People who want this kind of thing run scared from this kind of thread.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

 

[The Future Champs]

I'm sure the right to life posters will be along shortly.   

 

[honky kong]

Freedom!

 

[sbonomo]

What is the story here, A women had a still born child?  It was going to come out at some point still born so why not then?  Moving on.

 

[Bucky86]

What is the story here, A women had a still born child?  It was going to come out at some point still born so why not then?  Moving on.

Did you not read the article? She was sent home to wait for the baby to die so they could remove it.

 

[sbonomo]

Did you not read the article? She was sent home to wait for the baby to die so they could remove it.

Oh, I just read the OP post.....whoops. 

 

[ATC1]

This is not an abortion issue.  It is euthanasia issue for pro-life people.

Twenty weeks into Taylor Mahaffey’s pregnancy, her baby started emerging from her womb, with doctors powerless to stop it

 I'm confused.  Are the doctors required to try to stop the labor at this point?  Seems by letting her go home they are no longer trying to avoid the labor from occuring.  Thus, the baby will be born and shortly die. 

There should be a stipulation in there that if the pregnancy risks the life of the mother in these cases that labor can be induced.  Or perhaps forcing her into labor may put the mother more at risk?  i don't know.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

This is not an abortion issue.  It is euthanasia issue for pro-life people.

Twenty weeks into Taylor Mahaffey’s pregnancy, her baby started emerging from her womb, with doctors powerless to stop it

 I'm confused.  Are the doctors required to try to stop the labor at this point?  Seems by letting her go home they are no longer trying to avoid the labor from occuring.  Thus, the baby will be born and shortly die. 

There should be a stipulation in there that if the pregnancy risks the life of the mother in these cases that labor can be induced.  Or perhaps forcing her into labor may put the mother more at risk?  i don't know.

The baby will die.  If they do anything to alleviate the situation, that is.

But the baby was going to die anyway, yet science said it still had vital signs, so they couldn't stop the problem. So they could do nothing.

Essentially they tortured the mother, father and medical team in order to appease someone elses religious sensibilities.

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

Essentially they tortured the mother, father and medical team in order to appease someone elses religious sensibilities.

 

[McGarnicle]

Sickening. But if Trump has his way the mother would be behind bars. Also #### you Texas.

 

[Del Griffith]

The Texas law does come with exemptions, for cases where a woman’s life or physical health is in danger or when severe fetal abnormalities are present, conditions that the Mahaffeys did not satisfy.

Don't really see what the big deal is here. 

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Thanks, Posty

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Thanks, Posty

That is a first.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Don't really see what the big deal is here. 

:X

 

[Jackstraw]

Don't really see what the big deal is here. 

Well there is the legislature having more control over the woman's body than she herself did. Because small government. 

 

[Del Griffith]

Well there is the legislature having more control over the woman's body than she herself did. Because small government. 

Whatever. I don't really get all that worked up over abortion issues. 

 

[sho nuff]

How is sure death not a serious fetal abnormality?

 

[NCCommish]

Don't really see what the big deal is here. 

Are you married? Your wife ever miscarried? Mine has and take it from me it's a big deal. This law is ridiculous and only exists to satisfy some people's bronze age mythology.

 

[jon_mx]

Many laws have unintended consequences as it is difficult to imagine every situation.  Nothing that coukd not be easily fixed by some tweaking.  

 

[NCCommish]

Many laws have unintended consequences as it is difficult to imagine every situation.  Nothing that coukd not be easily fixed by some tweaking.  

This wasn't unintended, this is exactly the intent.

 

[jon_mx]

This wasn't unintended, this is exactly the intent.

  Seriously?   You can't be that ignorant can you?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

  Seriously?   You can't be that ignorant can you?

Of course it was intended. They are trying to make ALL ABORTIONS illegal all the time. That's the end game and its not up for debate.

 

[jon_mx]

Of course it was intended. They are trying to make ALL ABORTIONS illegal all the time. That's the end game and its not up for debate.

That is as stupid as saying it is the intent of the abortion movement to eliminate all black babies from being born. Too much stupid going on in this thread to have anything even remotely resembling an intelligent conversation. 

 

[BigSteelThrill]

No... it really isn't.

That is the exact intent; to end all abortions. Which would make this issue just that more commonplace.

You probably should run along.

 

[jon_mx]

No... it really isn't.

That is the exact intent; to end all abortions. Which would make this issue just that more commonplace.

You probably should run along.

I will. You obviously want to engage in a debate where you can assume the most extreme position is that of everyone who is on the other side.  It is a most stupid tactic, but one that is commonly used around here.  

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I will. You obviously want to engage in a debate where you can assume the most extreme position is that of everyone who is on the other side.  It is a most stupid tactic, but one that is commonly used around here.  

I know who is at the heart of these laws... Religions.  And that extreme stance is theirs. 

All while they have you believe they hold your (i.e. the less extreme among you who refuse to stand up against the religious power brokers) salvation in their sermons hands. They want as much total control as they can get and you guys capitulate.

 

[Del Griffith]

Are you married? Your wife ever miscarried? Mine has and take it from me it's a big deal. This law is ridiculous and only exists to satisfy some people's bronze age mythology.

I'm married, and my wife has had 3 miscarriages. You're not gonna enlighten me in any way about miscarriages, kid.

This law provides exceptions in the case of severe fetal abnormalities - I guess maybe they could consider the inevitable demise of the fetus as an abnormality, but I'm really not gonna get worked up over it.

 

[NCCommish]

I'm married, and my wife has had 3 miscarriages. You're not gonna enlighten me in any way about miscarriages, kid.

This law provides exceptions in the case of severe fetal abnormalities - I guess maybe they could consider the inevitable demise of the fetus as an abnormality, but I'm really not gonna get worked up over it.

Unless you are over 52 you can dump the kid stuff. I am sorry to hear that you and your wife had to suffer that pain. It's a terrible thing that can end marriages. But that does make it hard to understand how you could.support a law that takes such a decision out of the hands of your wife and your doctor and gives it to someone you don't know whose more worried about some fairy tale than your welfare.