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Texas man sues Ford dealership after his truck ends up on an ISIS vid (1 Viewer)

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http://nypost.com/2015/12/13/texas-plumber-files-lawsuit-after-isis-was-seen-using-his-truck/

I'm laughing at this a lot more than I probably should be.

A Texas plumber who was flooded with threats after his old truck — still emblazoned with his company’s name — was seen driven by ISIS thugs in Syria has armed himself and is suing a Ford dealer.

Mark Oberholtzer of Mark-1 Plumbing said a jihadi tweeted a photo of a fighter shooting an anti-aircraft gun on the Ford 2005 F-250 in December 2014 with the company logo and phone number still visible.

The nasty calls started pouring in, up to 200 a day.

“They were calling us ‘terrorists’ or ‘traitors,’ [threatening], ‘We’re going to come down there and do this.’ We had numerous death threats,” the 52-year-old from Galveston County told The Post.

In December 2013, Oberholtzer’s son went to AutoNation Ford Golf Freeway in Houston to trade in the 2005 truck for the 2012 model.

As he began peeling the company decals off the door, the salesman told him that it ruins the paint and to “let them handle it,” claims the lawsuit, filed Wednesday against AutoNation.

He was hunting in South Texas when his secretary called to say reporters wanted to know why his truck was being driven by ISIS terrorists.

Homeland Security officials questioned Oberholtzer and the FBI warned him to “protect himself.” He now always carries a gun.

“I lost work out of it,” he said, noting that while his regular clients knew he was a good guy, he has struggled to get new business.

Now the plumber wants $1 million in damages from the dealer, who sold the truck to a company in Turkey in 2013, records show.

“Yesterday I ran into a guy I used to work with, for the first time in five years. ‘Sell any trucks to Syria lately?’ he asked. Everybody thinks it’s funny, but it’s not,” he said.

 
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That is pretty funny.

I doubt he's losing business though. Money grab imo.
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.

As for the morons calling him and harassing him, are people really so stupid that they believe this guy is sponsoring ISIS or something? Like some American plumber is sitting there thinking "you know what would be great advertisement? What if I sponsor an ISIS war-mobile like it's some kind of NASCAR deal?"

 
That is pretty funny.

I doubt he's losing business though. Money grab imo.
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.

As for the morons calling him and harassing him, are people really so stupid that they believe this guy is sponsoring ISIS or something? Like some American plumber is sitting there thinking "you know what would be great advertisement? What if I sponsor an ISIS war-mobile like it's some kind of NASCAR deal?"
I'm so naive that when i hear about these threats on people for stupid things that it's mainly people schticking it up...but sadly I think we have a lot of angry morons in this country

 
That is pretty funny.

I doubt he's losing business though. Money grab imo.
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim. As for the morons calling him and harassing him, are people really so stupid that they believe this guy is sponsoring ISIS or something? Like some American plumber is sitting there thinking "you know what would be great advertisement? What if I sponsor an ISIS war-mobile like it's some kind of NASCAR deal?"
Yes

 
That is pretty funny.

I doubt he's losing business though. Money grab imo.
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
He accepted cash for an item. Once he did that his claim on anything not in writing in the contract having to do with that sale is null and void. Sadly he has no recourse - frivolous lawsuit.

 
This is why I have an M-60 mounted on a tripod in the back of my Toyota Tacoma. I figure it's worth more to the Taliban than Steve from Craigslist

 
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That is pretty funny.

I doubt he's losing business though. Money grab imo.
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
He accepted cash for an item. Once he did that his claim on anything not in writing in the contract having to do with that sale is null and void. Sadly he has no recourse - frivolous lawsuit.
While harder to enforce, oral agreements are most certainly contractual. As long as the statement was made before the sale was finalized, I see no reason why the statement wouldn't be considered part of the contract.

 
That is pretty funny.

I doubt he's losing business though. Money grab imo.
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
He accepted cash for an item. Once he did that his claim on anything not in writing in the contract having to do with that sale is null and void. Sadly he has no recourse - frivolous lawsuit.
Eh...that's not what this is about.

 
That is pretty funny.

I doubt he's losing business though. Money grab imo.
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.As for the morons calling him and harassing him, are people really so stupid that they believe this guy is sponsoring ISIS or something? Like some American plumber is sitting there thinking "you know what would be great advertisement? What if I sponsor an ISIS war-mobile like it's some kind of NASCAR deal?"
Yes
Exhibit A - Donald Trump's poll numbers.

 
That is pretty funny.

I doubt he's losing business though. Money grab imo.
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.As for the morons calling him and harassing him, are people really so stupid that they believe this guy is sponsoring ISIS or something? Like some American plumber is sitting there thinking "you know what would be great advertisement? What if I sponsor an ISIS war-mobile like it's some kind of NASCAR deal?"
Yes
Exhibit A - Donald Trump's poll numbers.
Take it to another thread, pal.

 
That is pretty funny.

I doubt he's losing business though. Money grab imo.
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
He accepted cash for an item. Once he did that his claim on anything not in writing in the contract having to do with that sale is null and void. Sadly he has no recourse - frivolous lawsuit.
Well this settles it.

 
That is pretty funny.

I doubt he's losing business though. Money grab imo.
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
He accepted cash for an item. Once he did that his claim on anything not in writing in the contract having to do with that sale is null and void. Sadly he has no recourse - frivolous lawsuit.
Well this settles it.
this guy has some sand dont he ?

 
That is pretty funny.

I doubt he's losing business though. Money grab imo.
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
He accepted cash for an item. Once he did that his claim on anything not in writing in the contract having to do with that sale is null and void. Sadly he has no recourse - frivolous lawsuit.
While harder to enforce, oral agreements are most certainly contractual. As long as the statement was made before the sale was finalized, I see no reason why the statement wouldn't be considered part of the contract.
Car sales person: "I never said that"

- case dismissed

 
I think there's very few people who wouldn't expect some form of compensation for the harassment and potential loss of wages, if, the dealership didn't as they agreed to...remove the label of business.

 
That is pretty funny.

I doubt he's losing business though. Money grab imo.
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
He accepted cash for an item. Once he did that his claim on anything not in writing in the contract having to do with that sale is null and void. Sadly he has no recourse - frivolous lawsuit.
While harder to enforce, oral agreements are most certainly contractual. As long as the statement was made before the sale was finalized, I see no reason why the statement wouldn't be considered part of the contract.
Car sales person: "I never said that"

- case dismissed
You must hang around the court system all day long.

 
That is pretty funny.

I doubt he's losing business though. Money grab imo.
Really - all of those merican's in texas will boycott over nothing. I actually think he deserves it. Think Dixie Chicks after bad mouthing the war. They never recovered.

 
That is pretty funny.

I doubt he's losing business though. Money grab imo.
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
He accepted cash for an item. Once he did that his claim on anything not in writing in the contract having to do with that sale is null and void. Sadly he has no recourse - frivolous lawsuit.
While harder to enforce, oral agreements are most certainly contractual. As long as the statement was made before the sale was finalized, I see no reason why the statement wouldn't be considered part of the contract.
Car sales person: "I never said that"

- case dismissed
"Mr. Finklestein, you are accused of murder in the first degree. How do you plead?"

"Not guilty, your Honor."

"Good enough for me. Case dismissed."

 
We sell a few of our work trucks every year and as a rule, we always remove the lettering first.

we wouldn't want some drunk driver or maniac riding around in one of our company vehicles. Or you know, Syria.

 
That is pretty funny.

I doubt he's losing business though. Money grab imo.
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
He accepted cash for an item. Once he did that his claim on anything not in writing in the contract having to do with that sale is null and void. Sadly he has no recourse - frivolous lawsuit.
While harder to enforce, oral agreements are most certainly contractual. As long as the statement was made before the sale was finalized, I see no reason why the statement wouldn't be considered part of the contract.
Car sales person: "I never said that"

- case dismissed
Think the dealership could make the case that when he, the salesperson said "let them handle", he just meant they would handle the sticker being there not any kind of guarantee they would remove it just that the seller didn't need to remove it.

 
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That is pretty funny.

I doubt he's losing business though. Money grab imo.
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
He accepted cash for an item. Once he did that his claim on anything not in writing in the contract having to do with that sale is null and void. Sadly he has no recourse - frivolous lawsuit.
While harder to enforce, oral agreements are most certainly contractual. As long as the statement was made before the sale was finalized, I see no reason why the statement wouldn't be considered part of the contract.
Car sales person: "I never said that"

- case dismissed
Think the dealership could make the case that when he said "let them handle", he just meant they would handle the sticker being there not any kind of guarantee they would remove it just that he didn't need to remove it.
That makes no sense at all.

 
Fennis said:
GroveDiesel said:
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
What's his legit claim? The dealership didn't sell the car to ISIS either.
Not sure if it's "legit" or not, but his claim is that he felt that part of the sale of the vehicle was the understanding that they would remove the decal from the car before they attempted to sell it. Also, and not in the OP was his statement that he was told the dealership could "remove it better, cause they said they had a way to remove it that wouldn't damage the paint", or something to that effect.

 
Fennis said:
GroveDiesel said:
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
What's his legit claim? The dealership didn't sell the car to ISIS either.
His claim is that he attempted to remove the decal himself precisely to avoid bad PR if the truck was sold to someone that would do something in it that would make his company look bad, but a representative of the dealership told him that they would do it instead in order to not damage the paint. The dealership did not remove the decal and the previous owner's company did experience bad publicity and harassment due to the dealership's negligence.

 
Fennis said:
GroveDiesel said:
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
What's his legit claim? The dealership didn't sell the car to ISIS either.
His claim is that he attempted to remove the decal himself precisely to avoid bad PR if the truck was sold to someone that would do something in it that would make his company look bad, but a representative of the dealership told him that they would do it instead in order to not damage the paint. The dealership did not remove the decal and the previous owner's company did experience bad publicity and harassment due to the dealership's negligence.
:goodposting:

 
Fennis said:
GroveDiesel said:
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
What's his legit claim? The dealership didn't sell the car to ISIS either.
His claim is that he attempted to remove the decal himself precisely to avoid bad PR if the truck was sold to someone that would do something in it that would make his company look bad, but a representative of the dealership told him that they would do it instead in order to not damage the paint. The dealership did not remove the decal and the previous owner's company did experience bad publicity and harassment due to the dealership's negligence.
That's a nice narrative that conveniently fits his lawsuit. Even if what he said is true (I doubt the dealership will agree to this version) was the eventual sale to ISIS and being captured on camera a predictable consequence of this truck being sold with his name intact on it?

Besides, this yahoo should just change his logo to something like - "We'll blow the #### out of your #### problem!" At least make a little hay with it.

 
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Officer Pete Malloy said:
Statorama said:
Car sales person: "I never said that"

- case dismissed
"Mr. Finklestein, you are accused of murder in the first degree. How do you plead?"

"Not guilty, your Honor."

"Good enough for me. Case dismissed."
TAKE IT TO THE LAWYER THREAD, NERD

 

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