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Texas Vs. The Nation Weigh In (1 Viewer)

Sigmund Bloom

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Texas Vs. The Nation Weigh-In Report by Sigmund Bloom

Today, I had the rare opportunity to eavesdrop on catch glimpses of players as they left the Texas Vs. The Nation weigh-in. It was standing room only at the Hilton Garden Inn Del Norte meeting room and the kids were on display like choice cuts in a butcher’s store. Unfortunately, Willie Gaston, a DB from Houston, and Quintin Echols, a DT from Kansas State, were both no-shows. They were coming off great performances in the Hula Bowl and the Shrine Game, respectively, so maybe that had something to do with it. I’ve been taught that if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all. Without naming names, I did see one scout shake his head and gesture like he was crossing a name off a sheet of paper when a player with an unimpressive physique took to the scales – this is important in the big scheme of things. Here are some of the players who instead raised eyebrows for good reasons:

Texas

• Allen Barbre, OT, Missouri Southern – Barbre measured up at 6’3 7/8” and 302 with very little flab, increasing his chances of staying at OT in the pros.

• Dathon Brown, CB, Texas College – Brown is 6’0” 193 and in great shape. His 32” arms are also good for a CB.

• Kenyuta Dawson, LB, Texas Tech – Dawson had an imposing physique with 271 lbs on only a 6’1” 1/8 frame. One scout noted that “he just keeps getting bigger and bigger”.

• James Finley, WR, Oregon – Here’s another pass-catcher with the metrics to stick at the next level. He was a toned 6’2” 208, but with 34” arms and 10 ¼” hands.

• Vincent Marshall, WR/RT, Houston – The mighty mite award goes to Marshall, who packs 161 lbs of muscle on his 5’7 1/8” frame. His hands are 9 5/8”, bigger than you would expect.

• Stephen McDonald, FB, Syracuse – McDonald’s upper body was scary thick, packing 248 lbs on a 5’11 5/8” frame. He has the same body as Chong Li from the movie “Bloodsport”

• Alex Obemese, DE, UTEP – Obemese is so well-defined that he almost looks like a bodybuilder, but he’s not overly bulky. He came in at 6’2 ½”, 245.

• Josh Swogger, QB, Montana – The calling of Swogger’s name inspired the biggest murmur of the morning until Walter Thomas walked in the room. Josh measured 6’ 4 1/4” and tipped the scales at a toned 234 with room for more bulk.

• Ramonce Taylor, RB/RT, Texas College – Ramonce has not been lazy since he left UT. He measured 5’ 10 1/8” and weighted in at a very defined 193 lbs. His 10” hands and 32 1/8 arms suggest that he could be a WR in the NFL.

• Walter Thomas, DT, North Mississippi CC – Your star of the weigh-in. He drew reactions ranging from gasps to smiles to a simple shake of the head in disbelief. Thomas is 6’4” 370. He’s got some baby fat, but he’s a legit 335 without it, and that’s without the benefit of a formal weight training regimen – just natural size. His upper body weighs more than I do, and I love fried food. His body screamed NFL.

Nation

• Calvin Bannister, DB/Return Specialist, Hampton – Bad news: Calvin was only 5’7 1/4”, Good News: He weighted in at 182 pounds of sculpted muscle.

• Clifton Dawson, RB, Harvard – Dawson had a nice NFL RB profile – a compact 5’9 ¾” and well defined 209 lbs. with the thick thighs you want in a pro back.

• Jonathan Palmer, OL, Auburn – Palmer is 6’ 4 3/8”, tipping the scales at 335, and with about as little flab as any OL here. He’s also got 34 ½ inch arms, always a plus on an offensive lineman.

• Maurice Price, WR, Charleston Southern – Price’s reported workout numbers paint the picture of an elite athlete, and he did not disappoint in person. He’s 6’1 1/8” and 194 lbs. with little signs of body fat. His 9 7/8” hands will also serve him well at the next level.

• Jay Staggs, OLB/S, UNLV – Staggs looks like a nice safety for the pros with his very toned 5’11 ¼” and 211 pound frame. He seemed to be in as good of shape as anyone we saw this morning.

• Junior Taylor, WR, UCLA – Junior is clearly in top notch shape, with a toned, balanced 208 lb. build spread out over 6’ 1 3/8”, but it was his 10 7/8” hands that clearly got the scouts’ attention.

• Tyrone Timmons, WR, Mississippi Valley State – Timmons has an ideal NFL WR frame – 6’3” 219 (and in very good shape) with 10 1/2” hands and 33 3/8” arms.

• Jesse Wendt, WR, Wisconsin-Stout – Jesse is another WR built for the next level. He’s a well-toned 6’2 3/8” and 228 pounds, which would make his reported 40 time in the 4.4s that much more impressive.

 
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I certainly appreciate the info being shared, so please don't take this wrong. But do we really need 4 separate Texas vs the Nation threads on the front page including one that is already pinned?

 
• Junior Taylor, WR, UCLA – Junior is clearly in top notch shape, with a toned, balanced 208 lb. build spread out over 6’ 1 3/8”, but it was his 10 7/8” hands that clearly got the scouts’ attention.
I always liked this guy when he was with the Bruins, but I think he had some health issues and UCLA doesn't have a great history of utilizing its talent. I'm not going to trip over myself to hype Taylor, but he's the kind of guy who would make an interesting project for an NFL team in the 5th-7th round range.
 
I certainly appreciate the info being shared, so please don't take this wrong. But do we really need 4 separate Texas vs the Nation threads on the front page including one that is already pinned?
the pinned thread consolidates the actual threads. the actual threads will fall off once they are no longer of interest. the pinned thread is also what we link to from the homepage. I'm not sure what else to say.
 
I certainly appreciate the info being shared, so please don't take this wrong. But do we really need 4 separate Texas vs the Nation threads on the front page including one that is already pinned?
the pinned thread consolidates the actual threads. the actual threads will fall off once they are no longer of interest. the pinned thread is also what we link to from the homepage. I'm not sure what else to say.
Why not just put the content in the pinned thread?
 
I certainly appreciate the info being shared, so please don't take this wrong. But do we really need 4 separate Texas vs the Nation threads on the front page including one that is already pinned?
the pinned thread consolidates the actual threads. the actual threads will fall off once they are no longer of interest. the pinned thread is also what we link to from the homepage. I'm not sure what else to say.
Why not just put the content in the pinned thread?
because the content would be spread throughout the thread, instead of easy to find, and the replies to different content would get all mixed together.
 
• Junior Taylor, WR, UCLA – Junior is clearly in top notch shape, with a toned, balanced 208 lb. build spread out over 6’ 1 3/8”, but it was his 10 7/8” hands that clearly got the scouts’ attention.
I always liked this guy when he was with the Bruins, but I think he had some health issues and UCLA doesn't have a great history of utilizing its talent. I'm not going to trip over myself to hype Taylor, but he's the kind of guy who would make an interesting project for an NFL team in the 5th-7th round range.
As a Bruin fan I have big doubts, but I agree he always seemed to have a lot more game than the numbers suggest, and it did seem like they didn't look his way enough, especially this year. He was a big time recruit out of AZ. Considered one of the top 10-15 receivers in the nation back then, and that's a homerun for Bruin recruiting. The unfortunate thing for Junior is the one year the offense exploded so did his ACL. His true senior season, two years ago, turned into a medical redshirt so he could come back last year. He will be 25 on draft day, a little older than most. The double whammy of the injury is now he gets to enter the draft not with last years bad crop of receivers, but with this years very good one. Bad break. He is a willing special teamer and very good all around athlete. I could see him sticking, but it's a longshot.
 
• Junior Taylor, WR, UCLA – Junior is clearly in top notch shape, with a toned, balanced 208 lb. build spread out over 6’ 1 3/8”, but it was his 10 7/8” hands that clearly got the scouts’ attention.
I always liked this guy when he was with the Bruins, but I think he had some health issues and UCLA doesn't have a great history of utilizing its talent. I'm not going to trip over myself to hype Taylor, but he's the kind of guy who would make an interesting project for an NFL team in the 5th-7th round range.
As a Bruin fan I have big doubts, but I agree he always seemed to have a lot more game than the numbers suggest, and it did seem like they didn't look his way enough, especially this year. He was a big time recruit out of AZ. Considered one of the top 10-15 receivers in the nation back then, and that's a homerun for Bruin recruiting. The unfortunate thing for Junior is the one year the offense exploded so did his ACL. His true senior season, two years ago, turned into a medical redshirt so he could come back last year. He will be 25 on draft day, a little older than most. The double whammy of the injury is now he gets to enter the draft not with last years bad crop of receivers, but with this years very good one. Bad break. He is a willing special teamer and very good all around athlete. I could see him sticking, but it's a longshot.
I remember his reputation coming out of high school and he just seems like one those guys who always looks fluid on the field. I wouldn't use an early pick on him, but I think he's a good 7th round project type.
 
• Junior Taylor, WR, UCLA – Junior is clearly in top notch shape, with a toned, balanced 208 lb. build spread out over 6’ 1 3/8”, but it was his 10 7/8” hands that clearly got the scouts’ attention.
I always liked this guy when he was with the Bruins, but I think he had some health issues and UCLA doesn't have a great history of utilizing its talent. I'm not going to trip over myself to hype Taylor, but he's the kind of guy who would make an interesting project for an NFL team in the 5th-7th round range.
As a Bruin fan I have big doubts, but I agree he always seemed to have a lot more game than the numbers suggest, and it did seem like they didn't look his way enough, especially this year. He was a big time recruit out of AZ. Considered one of the top 10-15 receivers in the nation back then, and that's a homerun for Bruin recruiting. The unfortunate thing for Junior is the one year the offense exploded so did his ACL. His true senior season, two years ago, turned into a medical redshirt so he could come back last year. He will be 25 on draft day, a little older than most. The double whammy of the injury is now he gets to enter the draft not with last years bad crop of receivers, but with this years very good one. Bad break. He is a willing special teamer and very good all around athlete. I could see him sticking, but it's a longshot.
youll be interested to hear how he did in practice. It was striking.
 
• Junior Taylor, WR, UCLA – Junior is clearly in top notch shape, with a toned, balanced 208 lb. build spread out over 6’ 1 3/8”, but it was his 10 7/8” hands that clearly got the scouts’ attention.
I always liked this guy when he was with the Bruins, but I think he had some health issues and UCLA doesn't have a great history of utilizing its talent. I'm not going to trip over myself to hype Taylor, but he's the kind of guy who would make an interesting project for an NFL team in the 5th-7th round range.
As a Bruin fan I have big doubts, but I agree he always seemed to have a lot more game than the numbers suggest, and it did seem like they didn't look his way enough, especially this year. He was a big time recruit out of AZ. Considered one of the top 10-15 receivers in the nation back then, and that's a homerun for Bruin recruiting. The unfortunate thing for Junior is the one year the offense exploded so did his ACL. His true senior season, two years ago, turned into a medical redshirt so he could come back last year. He will be 25 on draft day, a little older than most. The double whammy of the injury is now he gets to enter the draft not with last years bad crop of receivers, but with this years very good one. Bad break. He is a willing special teamer and very good all around athlete. I could see him sticking, but it's a longshot.
youll be interested to hear how he did in practice. It was striking.
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