The 11th Pick In A Non-PPR League (1 Viewer)

[packersfan]

I like the end of the first round considerably more than last year. Unlike 2006 when the RB talent really dropped off the board this year I think there are some strong options available depending on your league format. My league is a one-keeper league so Henry and Maroney are likely to be gone. That means I'm targeting the following RBs at No. 11:

Rudi

Bush

McGahee.

In a straight redraft, you can add Henry and Maroney to the list which means there are five (in my opinion) very solid RB1 options you will be able to choose from in the first round. There's some genuine talent at 11 this year. I would be thrilled if Rudi fell to 11. I've seen him at 11 in some rankings but his ADP is slightly higher and I don't expect him to be there. So my plan is to take Bush or McGahee at 11 and then see if Ronnie Brown is available coming back since he's the last RB2 in my league that I like at 14. I like Jones-Drew but I think 14 is a touch too high for him and I'm not comfortable with Portis, Benson or Edge at that spot (I like Benson and Edge as RB2s this year but not at 14). So if Brown is gone I'm looking at going with Smith or Johnson. In a straight redraft you should be able to pair your RB1 with any of the following RBs at 14:

Henry

Maroney

McGahee

Brown

Again, that's a considerable amount of talent that could be available in the first two rounds. If you decide to take a top WR instead you could target a RB such as McAllister, T.Jones, Williams or Jacobs in the third round. Coming back in the fourth one could go with a WR such as Moss, Johnson or Driver or take Brady or Brees to get one of the elite QBs. Or if you go RB-RB in the first two rounds you could decide to grab two top WRs at 3/4 and then shoot for a QB after that.

So some possible scenarios after the first four rounds from 11 are:

RB-Rudi

RB-McGahee

WR-Colston

WR-Driver

RB-McGahee

RB-T.Jones

WR-Smith

WR-Driver

RB-Bush

RB-Henry

WR-Colston

WR-A.Johnson

QB-Brady

RB-McGahee

RB-T.Jones

WR-Moss

McGahee seems to be the one constant. If you like him this year - and I love him this year - you should be able to get him either at 11 (depending on who's off the board) or coming back at 14. Brady or Brees is a very attractive option if you think the WR talent will hold up after Round 4. Then you could look to pair a solid WR with your WR1 and a RB3 in the fifth and sixth rounds.

What are your plans from 11?

 

[wittyusername]

I like the end of the first round considerably more than last year. Unlike 2006 when the RB talent really dropped off the board this year I think there are some strong options available depending on your league format. My league is a one-keeper league so Henry and Maroney are likely to be gone. That means I'm targeting the following RBs at No. 11:

Rudi

Bush

McGahee.

In a straight redraft, you can add Henry and Maroney to the list which means there are five (in my opinion) very solid RB1 options you will be able to choose from in the first round. There's some genuine talent at 11 this year. I would be thrilled if Rudi fell to 11. I've seen him at 11 in some rankings but his ADP is slightly higher and I don't expect him to be there. So my plan is to take Bush or McGahee at 11 and then see if Ronnie Brown is available coming back since he's the last RB2 in my league that I like at 14. I like Jones-Drew but I think 14 is a touch too high for him and I'm not comfortable with Portis, Benson or Edge at that spot (I like Benson and Edge as RB2s this year but not at 14). So if Brown is gone I'm looking at going with Smith or Johnson. In a straight redraft you should be able to pair your RB1 with any of the following RBs at 14:

Henry

Maroney

McGahee

Brown

Again, that's a considerable amount of talent that could be available in the first two rounds. If you decide to take a top WR instead you could target a RB such as McAllister, T.Jones, Williams or Jacobs in the third round. Coming back in the fourth one could go with a WR such as Moss, Johnson or Driver or take Brady or Brees to get one of the elite QBs. Or if you go RB-RB in the first two rounds you could decide to grab two top WRs at 3/4 and then shoot for a QB after that.

So some possible scenarios after the first four rounds from 11 are:

RB-Rudi

RB-McGahee

WR-Colston

WR-Driver

RB-McGahee

RB-T.Jones

WR-Smith

WR-Driver

RB-Bush

RB-Henry

WR-Colston

WR-A.Johnson

QB-Brady

RB-McGahee

RB-T.Jones

WR-Moss

McGahee seems to be the one constant. If you like him this year - and I love him this year - you should be able to get him either at 11 (depending on who's off the board) or coming back at 14. Brady or Brees is a very attractive option if you think the WR talent will hold up after Round 4. Then you could look to pair a solid WR with your WR1 and a RB3 in the fifth and sixth rounds.

What are your plans from 11?

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I am in the same boat. While I agree with your analysis I am thinking about doing something a little less FBG "group-think". With the 11th slot I have attempted to go after both Manning and Gates several times and usually end up with something like this after 12 rounds:

B. Westbrook

P. Manning

J. Walker

A. Gates

J.Lewis

C. Chambers

T. Glenn

T. Bell

Morency

R. Droughns

D. Henderson

Balt Def

This is a no-flex: 1 QB, 2RB, 3Wr, 1 TE, 1PK, 1TD

Please shoot holes in this idea - I am tempted to try this!

 

[barndog]

Just a note that this position is not so different from picking 12th, and there's been another thread around longer for that.

 

[packersfan]

I am in the same boat. While I agree with your analysis I am thinking about doing something a little less FBG "group-think". With the 11th slot I have attempted to go after both Manning and Gates several times and usually end up with something like this after 12 rounds:B. WestbrookP. ManningJ. WalkerA. GatesJ.LewisC. ChambersT. GlennT. BellMorencyR. DroughnsD. HendersonBalt DefThis is a no-flex: 1 QB, 2RB, 3Wr, 1 TE, 1PK, 1TDPlease shoot holes in this idea - I am tempted to try this!

If you can get Westbrook at 11, more power to you. I think he goes much higher than that in 99% of the other drafts this year. I'd personally be shocked to see him fall that far in a draft. As far as the team you listed above, I'm not a big believer in taking a TE early but that is a strong foundation after the first four rounds (I absolutely love Walker's potential for this year) but Lewis and Chambers are really dicey and that could be where you win or lose. Lewis as a RB2 is a huge gamble in my opinion and while I think Chambers will be better than last year (it's hard to imagine him being any worse given his talent) I'd rather have him as a WR3. I do like Glenn and Henderson, though, so if Chambers flops those two plus any WW additions you make could provide depth and production behind Walker. But my overall feeling is that if you're going to grab Manning coming back in the second round you need to make sure you team your RB1 with someone stronger than Lewis. I'm not sure Gates will give you enough production over the TE you could get later to compensate for what you could lose with Lewis as your RB2.Just my 2 cents.

 

[mr. furley]

pity bump

 

[packersfan]

pity bump

 

[mr. furley]

pity bump

i've got 11, too

 

[faux_bear]

I don't know. I think there's a considerable drop between Rudi or Reggie Bush (who I have in the same tier) and McGahee (who I have lumped in with MJD, Ronnie Brown, and maybe Portis). For that reason I like the 10 spot better. This last preseason game did nothing to increase my confidence in McGahee.

 

[packersfan]

I don't know. I think there's a considerable drop between Rudi or Reggie Bush (who I have in the same tier) and McGahee (who I have lumped in with MJD, Ronnie Brown, and maybe Portis). For that reason I like the 10 spot better. This last preseason game did nothing to increase my confidence in McGahee.

I'm very big on McGahee this year but I agree there is a drop-off from 10 to 11 where I expect to get him. My hope is somebody in the Top 10 grabs a stud WR and pushes one of those RBs to me at 11. My plan regardless is to take a stud WR in the second and then look for a RB (Peterson is my top target) in the third.

 

[Old Redskin]

I drafted from the 11th hole a couple of weeks ago. I took a slightly different approach and went RB-WR-WR-RB-RB-WR-QB-TE. While I am lighter at RB than I would like to be, I am happy with my team.

Rudi Johnson

Chad Johnson

Roy Williams

Duece McAllister

Cadillac Williams

Andre Johnson

Big Ben

Chris Cooley

I would have gone with a RB in the third round, but there was a run on RBs in the bottom half of the third. I decided to snag the best available WR since the guy who drafted 12th took 2 RBs on the first turn.

Best of luck to you in your draft and I wouldn't be afraid to pass on a RB in the 2nd round as there seems to be a lot of congestion in the third and fourth tier RBs this year.

 

[packersfan]

I drafted from the 11th hole a couple of weeks ago. I took a slightly different approach and went RB-WR-WR-RB-RB-WR-QB-TE. While I am lighter at RB than I would like to be, I am happy with my team.Rudi JohnsonChad JohnsonRoy WilliamsDuece McAllisterCadillac WilliamsAndre JohnsonBig BenChris CooleyI would have gone with a RB in the third round, but there was a run on RBs in the bottom half of the third. I decided to snag the best available WR since the guy who drafted 12th took 2 RBs on the first turn. Best of luck to you in your draft and I wouldn't be afraid to pass on a RB in the 2nd round as there seems to be a lot of congestion in the third and fourth tier RBs this year.

I'm not sold on Caddy bouncing back but that's a very nice team. Johnson as a WR3 is sweet. Your WRs are stacked. And I really like Roethlisberger this year.

 

[tommyGunZ]

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[tommyGunZ]

There are 12 backs that I'd consider solid RB1's this year. I'm picking 11th in a draft this Sunday (Stingdiddy is picking 10th) and I'll most likely be going RB-WR. Those RBs just outside of the top 12 are a coin flip this year IMO, and I've lost that coin flip too many times on 2nd round RBs to bypass the sure things in Harrison, CJ, and Steve Smith.

Lots of RBs with upside in the 5th, 6th, and 7th rounds this year IMO.

 

[perryberry]

I don't see Rudi or Bush falling to me with my #11 pick....So I'm stuck....Benson, Portis, Brown, James, Jacobs??? or go with WR/WR and hope Peterson or A. Green falls to me in the 3rd?

 

[Alias]

I am starting to like the 11 slot, I am drafting from it tomorrow night in a 16 team non-ppr league. It looks like I am going

1 RB (top 10) -- Manning if still on the board (3 QB's went in first 6 picks last year)

2 RB (Portis/A-Pete/Benson/Edge)

3 WR (Walker/Boldin/Evans) -- Gates if still on the board

4 QB Rivers - WR Driver/Colston/AJohnson

5 RB Foster - WR Edwards

6 DT Chicago (top D's score a ton of points in this league)

 

[tommyGunZ]

Had a draft yesterday in a league where 6-8 of the 12 teams use the dominator and several are FBGs. I came away with:

1.11 Lawrence Maroney

2.02 Chad Johnson

3.11 Antonio Gates

4.02 Adrian Peterson

5.11 Tatum Bell

6.02 Reggie Brown

7.11 Jericho Cotchery

8.02 Phillip Rivers

9.11 Jay Cutler

10.02 Michael Turner

11.11 San Diego Defense

12.02 Drew Bennett

 

[Warpig]

This is the team I ended up with in a 12 team redraft from last night (all td's 6pts):

1.11 - Travis Henry

2.02 - Shaun Alexander ( )

3.11 - Reggie Wayne

4.02 - Lee Evans (defenses and kickers started going in the 4th!)

5.11 - Clinton Portis

6.02 - Donald Driver

7.11 - Brett Favre

8.02 - Chris Cooley

9.11 - Jay Cutler

10.02 - Santana Moss

11.11 - Jason Campbell

12.02 - Vernand Morency

13.11 - Adrain Peterson (CHI)

14.02 - Owen Daniels

15.11 - Washington Redskins

I had to leave after the 6th round so I left my cheatsheet with a friend. Even though he was sober he still screwed up my strategy because he said he lost his place. So from the 7th round on someone else was drafting my team. Then he called me during the 13th round and asked me who I wanted. I asked him if "Adrian Peterson, the rookie RB from MINNESOTA" was still hanging around and he said "yes". So, since this is a league of guppies I didn't really doubt that he might have still been there. Come to find out, one of the other owners drafted him in the 7th round so I'm assuming the AP that I ended up with is the one from Chicago. I find it amazing that I ended up with Morency and AP from CHI and I'd be willing to bet that when I check the FA's there will be starting RB's out there...I'm thinking Julius Jones and Jerious Norwood!

p.s.

I'll drop Morency or AP and pick up a kicker.

 

[mr. furley]

had my non-PPR draft last nite from the 11 spot.

RB heavy league. WR's aren't as valued. 6 pts per TD. 1 pt per 15 yds rushing/receiving. 3 pts per TD pass.

1.11 - Reggie Bush

2.02 - Maurice Jones-Drew

3.11 - Drew Brees

4.02 - Adrian Peterson

5.11 - Philip Rivers

6.02 - DeShaun Foster

after that i can't recall ( ) but i felt Bush and MJD were the cream of the crop among the guys leftover around the bottom of 1 / top of 2. Ronnie Brown was there, McGahee, Benson.

the only non-RB to go in the 1st round was Manning.

 

[maxwell1295]

I drafted 11th in a non-PPR (1QB/1RB/1WR/1TE/3FLEX/1K/3IDP) on Sunday. Very RB heavy league with pressure to draft them early

1. Rudi Johnson (ecstatic that he fell this far)

2. Willis McGahee (happy with this pick)

3. Jamal Lewis (bit of a reach)

4. Larry Fitzgerald (somewhat surprising)

5. Anquan Boldin (very surprising)

6. Lendale White (risky and another reach)

7. John Kitna (targeted him and got him in a decent spot)

 

[Alias]

Just finished a 16 teamer, here are the first 7 rounds, CBS Sportsline draft room is the worst, I ended up with a few autopicks, I complained to the commish but he was too stuckup to roll it back for me, particularly pissed me off when it gave me QB Matt Schaub when I wanted Cotchery in the 8th round

1.11 QB Peyton Manning -- was surprised he was still there, I have him outscoring the #2 QB by 56 points

2.06 RB Cedric Benson -- 20 RB's off the board when it was my 21st pick

3.11 WR Torry Holt -- 28 RB's, 6 QB's, 7 WR's off the board -- this was actually a draft room FUBAR, but was the next WR on my list so not too bad

4.06 WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh -- 12 WR's total off the board, I saw a big WR run coming so took best available

5.11 RB DeShaun Foster -- 36 RB's, 22 WR's off the board at the time of this pick

6.06 TE Todd Heap -- 5 TE's of the board at the time of this pick

7.11 RB Chris Brown -- 39 RB's off the board at the time of this pick

This is a 16 team start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1DT, 1PK -- we have 2 rounds of supplemental free agent pickups via blind bids All TD's 6 Points, standard yardage, INT's & Fumbles are -3 non-PPR

Current 12 man roster

QB: PManning, JPLosman (both bye week 6, need to try to fix this)

RB: CBenson, DFoster, CBrown, DRhodes

WR: THolt, TJHoushmandzadeh, JCotchery*, EKennison

TE: THeap

DT: Miami

PK: n/a

*The second draft room screw up was when I wanted Cotchery, the commish felt guilty and traded me Devery Henderson for Matt Schaub so I ended up having to take that. Fortunately this is not a big money league.

Portis went 1.12

 

[Nate Silver]

Here's what I got in the #11 slot in a fairly tough CBS Sportsline draft today.

1-11. Laurence Maroney, RB. Was glad he was there, as I had him rated ahead of guys like Rudi and Parker (who were gone) as well as Bush and Henry (who weren't). I might have preferred Bush in a PPR league.

2-14. Tom Brady, QB. Maybe a reach, but I see it as more of a necessary evil. The QB's are quite valuable in the CBS Sportsline format (no PPR, no flex, 6-PT passing TDs) and Palmer, Brees, McNabb and Bulger all went off the board shortly thereafter. The dynamics of the #11 seem to be a bit different in a league in which QBs are valued highly because of the scoring regime; you're almost definitely not going to get Brady/Palmer/Brees to come back around to you in the 3rd round and McNabb/Bulger are dicey. On the other hand, you may have some relatively attractive options at RB and WR and maybe TE (though this spot sort of sucks for getting Antonio Gates).

3-35. Thomas Jones, RB. Dull but good value here IMO.

4-38. Lee Evans, WR. Had him in a tier with Boldin and Colston and slightly prefer him to those two.

5-59. Reggie Brown, WR

6-62. Santana Moss, WR

7-83. Alge Crumpler, TE.

8-86. Jerious Norwood, RB.

9-107. Mushin Muhammad, WR.

10-110. DeShaun Foster, RB.

11-131. Devery Henderson, WR.

12-134. Brett Favre, QB.

13-155. Stephen Gostkowski, K. Had him #2 on my kicker board.

14-158. Packers, D/ST.

 

[GoBirds]

was pumped I got these picking 11:

11:Westbrook

14:Bush

34:Jacobs

37 Housh

57:Ronnie Brown (how do you not take hime here(

 

[salmonstud]

12 team NON-PPR league. 6 points per rush/receiving TD's, 4 points per passing TD's, 1 point per 10 yards rush/receiving, 1 point per 20 yards passing. No penalty for INT's. Start QB,RB,RB,WR,WR,TE,K

With starting only 2 WR's...RB's & QB's go quicker than in most leagues (start 3 WR's).

I drafted out of the 11 hole (draft was 9 days ago). 1st 10 rounds listed below.

1.11 - Westbrook

2.1 - McGahee

3.11 - A.Peterson

4.2 - J.Walker

5.11 -V.Young

6.2 -D.Williams

7.11 -L.Coles

8.2 -B. Roethlisberger

9.11 -S. Holmes

10.2 -Witten