The 1st overall selection of the 2007 NFL draft is.. (1 Viewer)

[King of the Jungle]

What a poor geographical location to live in for a die hard football fan.

Do they go Quinn?

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

They need to draft more WRs, so pobably Calvin Johnson.

 

[ILoveMyLions]

Offensive Line, Defensive Line or Trade Down...

 

[Borat]

Offensive Line, Defensive Line or Trade Down...

 

[Tornacl]

As a nearly life-long Lions fan, I can say with confidence...it really doesn't matter who they pick.

I was happy for Harrington, that was probably his best game ever in Detroit.

 

[Bankerguy]

The correct answer should be trade down.

Get more picks and re-build the wreck of a team.

 

[seahawk 17]

Raiders will have the first pick.

 

[CalBear]

The correct answer should be trade down.Get more picks and re-build the wreck of a team.

No, the best idea is to trade down.This being the Lions, the correct answer is something other than that.

 

[Justloveit]

Trading down is much easier said than done. To make it worthwhile the team looking to trade down would still want a top tier player and then get additional picks at some point in the draft where they believe they can still draft impact players. It's rare that a team with a top 5 pick would be willing to give up a lot of additional picks to move up. SD were able to do it a few yrs ago and it clearly worked out great for them, but every yr people say that the team with the top pick should trade down, but it's not that simple.

 

[-OZ-]

Second verse, same as the first.

EVERY year, we tell each other that trading the first pick is the smart move. Yet, it rarely happens - generally only when the top prospect refuses to play for a team. (smart move Eli )

Build the lines. I would need more research, but I can't think of a truly dominant OL or DT this year, although I know there are a few good ones. Joe Thomas?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

If millen is there, who knows.

If for some crazy reason matt is fired, hopefully, the new GM trades the rights Brady Quinn to whomever, and gets as much as possible. which might not be much.

IMO, a horrible year to have #1, almsot as bad as when SF took A.smith

 

[Buckna]

If Joe Thomas (OT, Wisconsin) grades out as high as people think he will, that should be their selection. Kitna isn't that bad (only old), KJ, the TE's and WR's are decent to above average. The swiss cheese O'line is what keeps this team from being competitive.

They'll probably take Quinn though as he seems the most likely selection. Of course that will then ruin another top QB prospect with a porous O'line.

 

[simmonjm]

Its funny but I think Detroit needs to draft Calvin Johnson. This is a cant miss draft pick. Johnson is such a polished reciever and is reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald. The fact that Georgia Tech has a crappy QB makes Calvin Johnson's accomplishments so much more remarkable. The Lions right now have a converted safety for a second wide reciever. Wide reciever has to be there most pressing need. I mean it was painful to watch Furrey come up short twice in the game when he caught the ball 2 yards short of the first down marker and was unable to convert.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Its funny but I think Detroit needs to draft Calvin Johnson. This is a cant miss draft pick. Johnson is such a polished reciever and is reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald. The fact that Georgia Tech has a crappy QB makes Calvin Johnson's accomplishments so much more remarkable. The Lions right now have a converted safety for a second wide reciever. Wide reciever has to be there most pressing need. I mean it was painful to watch Furrey come up short twice in the game when he caught the ball 2 yards short of the first down marker and was unable to convert.

** - not talking about the grammatical error

 

[simmonjm]

Its funny but I think Detroit needs to draft Calvin Johnson. This is a cant miss draft pick. Johnson is such a polished reciever and is reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald. The fact that Georgia Tech has a crappy QB makes Calvin Johnson's accomplishments so much more remarkable. The Lions right now have a converted safety for a second wide reciever. Wide reciever has to be there most pressing need. I mean it was painful to watch Furrey come up short twice in the game when he caught the ball 2 yards short of the first down marker and was unable to convert.

** - not talking about the grammatical error

I got tryptophan and alcohol in my system I cannot be held responsible for grammatical errors. What in your opinion is the Lions most pressing need?

 

[RenegadeGM]

Name me the best college WR who has poor work ethic and/or weight problems and/or a drug habit.

Yeah, that guy.

 

[ChampBailey24]

Its funny but I think Detroit needs to draft Calvin Johnson. This is a cant miss draft pick. Johnson is such a polished reciever and is reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald. The fact that Georgia Tech has a crappy QB makes Calvin Johnson's accomplishments so much more remarkable. The Lions right now have a converted safety for a second wide reciever. Wide reciever has to be there most pressing need. I mean it was painful to watch Furrey come up short twice in the game when he caught the ball 2 yards short of the first down marker and was unable to convert.

They already have Roy Williams, they don't need an other WR. Joe Thomas would be a great pick. With Joe Thomas, Damien Woody, Jeff Backus, Ross Verba, and whoever will be the starting center, you actually have a solid OLine, which would greatly help the offence (and the defence). Now, if they can find a good Dline in the 2nd round to go with Kalimba Edwards, James Hall and Shaun Cody, that would be a huge boost. A much bigger boost than Calvin Johnson.

 

[simmonjm]

Its funny but I think Detroit needs to draft Calvin Johnson. This is a cant miss draft pick. Johnson is such a polished reciever and is reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald. The fact that Georgia Tech has a crappy QB makes Calvin Johnson's accomplishments so much more remarkable. The Lions right now have a converted safety for a second wide reciever. Wide reciever has to be there most pressing need. I mean it was painful to watch Furrey come up short twice in the game when he caught the ball 2 yards short of the first down marker and was unable to convert.

They already have Roy Williams, they don't need an other WR. Joe Thomas would be a great pick. With Joe Thomas, Damien Woody, Jeff Backus, Ross Verba, and whoever will be the starting center, you actually have a solid OLine, which would greatly help the offence (and the defence). Now, if they can find a good Dline in the 2nd round to go with Kalimba Edwards, James Hall and Shaun Cody, that would be a huge boost. A much bigger boost than Calvin Johnson.

I disagree using this logic your saying the Saints would be better off this year with D'Brickashaw Ferguson then Marquis Colston. I will even take it a step futher I would be willing to bet that the Saints would rather have Marquis Colston over a young Walter Jones. Having a good complement opposite Roy Williams would make it alot harder to figure out a defensive gameplan against the Lions. The Lions offensive line is not that bad you could do worse. If the Lions defense could actually step up the Lions would have found there way into the win column more than twice.

 

[steviey]

A new owner with any luck

 

[MLBrandow]

They already have Roy Williams, they don't need an other WR. Joe Thomas would be a great pick. With Joe Thomas, Damien Woody, Jeff Backus, Ross Verba, and whoever will be the starting center, you actually have a solid OLine, which would greatly help the offence (and the defence). Now, if they can find a good Dline in the 2nd round to go with Kalimba Edwards, James Hall and Shaun Cody, that would be a huge boost. A much bigger boost than Calvin Johnson.

he speaks the truth guys.Lions don't need DL help... they just need a DL that's healthy.They do need OL help though. A new stud tackle would do wonders for the team.Joe Thomas would be my pick.However, because they aren't going to Josh McCown, it means to me they don't see him as the future. If that's the case, I don't see how they pass on Brady Quinn or Troy Smith (probably Quinn).Naturally the best "idea" is to trade down... but that isn't going to happen, and they'll end up having to take the player they want at #1.

 

[ChampBailey24]

Its funny but I think Detroit needs to draft Calvin Johnson. This is a cant miss draft pick. Johnson is such a polished reciever and is reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald. The fact that Georgia Tech has a crappy QB makes Calvin Johnson's accomplishments so much more remarkable. The Lions right now have a converted safety for a second wide reciever. Wide reciever has to be there most pressing need. I mean it was painful to watch Furrey come up short twice in the game when he caught the ball 2 yards short of the first down marker and was unable to convert.

They already have Roy Williams, they don't need an other WR. Joe Thomas would be a great pick. With Joe Thomas, Damien Woody, Jeff Backus, Ross Verba, and whoever will be the starting center, you actually have a solid OLine, which would greatly help the offence (and the defence). Now, if they can find a good Dline in the 2nd round to go with Kalimba Edwards, James Hall and Shaun Cody, that would be a huge boost. A much bigger boost than Calvin Johnson.

I disagree using this logic your saying the Saints would be better off this year with D'Brickashaw Ferguson then Marquis Colston. I will even take it a step futher I would be willing to bet that the Saints would rather have Marquis Colston over a young Walter Jones. Having a good complement opposite Roy Williams would make it alot harder to figure out a defensive gameplan against the Lions. The Lions offensive line is not that bad you could do worse. If the Lions defense could actually step up the Lions would have found there way into the win column more than twice.

Colston was a 7th round pick. I think every team would have taken him in the 7th round. However, I don't think every team would take Calvin Johnson if they had the 1st overal pick. And I'd rather have a young Walter Jones over a young Marques Colston. Colston has looked great so far but will he keep that pace? And don't compare the Saints to the Lions. The Saints only have Horn (who is old) besides Colston. The Lions currently have Roy Williams (a stud too) and Mike Furrey (a decent WR2 and solid WR3), so WR is not a position they have to upgrade. OLine, LBs, DBs (Bly and Kennedy are solid but Bly is getting old) and QBs are their weakest positions (Man, they really suck), not WR.

 

[diesel7982]

They already have Roy Williams, they don't need an other WR. Joe Thomas would be a great pick. With Joe Thomas, Damien Woody, Jeff Backus, Ross Verba, and whoever will be the starting center, you actually have a solid OLine, which would greatly help the offence (and the defence). Now, if they can find a good Dline in the 2nd round to go with Kalimba Edwards, James Hall and Shaun Cody, that would be a huge boost. A much bigger boost than Calvin Johnson.

However, because they aren't going to Josh McCown, it means to me they don't see him as the future. If that's the case, I don't see how they pass on Brady Quinn or Troy Smith (probably Quinn).

Are you suggesting Troy Smith is not only a possible 1st rounder, but in contention for a top 5 pick?

 

[diesel7982]

Its funny but I think Detroit needs to draft Calvin Johnson. This is a cant miss draft pick. Johnson is such a polished reciever and is reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald. The fact that Georgia Tech has a crappy QB makes Calvin Johnson's accomplishments so much more remarkable. The Lions right now have a converted safety for a second wide reciever. Wide reciever has to be there most pressing need. I mean it was painful to watch Furrey come up short twice in the game when he caught the ball 2 yards short of the first down marker and was unable to convert.

They already have Roy Williams, they don't need an other WR.

True...why draft a guy who will probably be the next Larry Fitzgerald when you have Mike Furrey, Eddie Drummond, and Devale Ellis to take the pressure off Roy in an offense that is very WR-centric and throws the ball 35-40 times a game?

 

[PatsWillWin]

Its funny but I think Detroit needs to draft Calvin Johnson. This is a cant miss draft pick. Johnson is such a polished reciever and is reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald. The fact that Georgia Tech has a crappy QB makes Calvin Johnson's accomplishments so much more remarkable. The Lions right now have a converted safety for a second wide reciever. Wide reciever has to be there most pressing need. I mean it was painful to watch Furrey come up short twice in the game when he caught the ball 2 yards short of the first down marker and was unable to convert.

They already have Roy Williams, they don't need an other WR.

True...why draft a guy who will probably be the next Larry Fitzgerald when you have Mike Furrey, Eddie Drummond, and Devale Ellis to take the pressure off Roy in an offense that is very WR-centric and throws the ball 35-40 times a game?

So you think a WR2 is more important than a competent offensive line, a quarterback of the future, or an addition to a bottom 5 NFL defense?

 

[simmonjm]

Its funny but I think Detroit needs to draft Calvin Johnson. This is a cant miss draft pick. Johnson is such a polished reciever and is reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald. The fact that Georgia Tech has a crappy QB makes Calvin Johnson's accomplishments so much more remarkable. The Lions right now have a converted safety for a second wide reciever. Wide reciever has to be there most pressing need. I mean it was painful to watch Furrey come up short twice in the game when he caught the ball 2 yards short of the first down marker and was unable to convert.

They already have Roy Williams, they don't need an other WR. Joe Thomas would be a great pick. With Joe Thomas, Damien Woody, Jeff Backus, Ross Verba, and whoever will be the starting center, you actually have a solid OLine, which would greatly help the offence (and the defence). Now, if they can find a good Dline in the 2nd round to go with Kalimba Edwards, James Hall and Shaun Cody, that would be a huge boost. A much bigger boost than Calvin Johnson.

I disagree using this logic your saying the Saints would be better off this year with D'Brickashaw Ferguson then Marquis Colston. I will even take it a step futher I would be willing to bet that the Saints would rather have Marquis Colston over a young Walter Jones. Having a good complement opposite Roy Williams would make it alot harder to figure out a defensive gameplan against the Lions. The Lions offensive line is not that bad you could do worse. If the Lions defense could actually step up the Lions would have found there way into the win column more than twice.

Colston was a 7th round pick. I think every team would have taken him in the 7th round. However, I don't think every team would take Calvin Johnson if they had the 1st overal pick. And I'd rather have a young Walter Jones over a young Marques Colston. Colston has looked great so far but will he keep that pace? And don't compare the Saints to the Lions. The Saints only have Horn (who is old) besides Colston. The Lions currently have Roy Williams (a stud too) and Mike Furrey (a decent WR2 and solid WR3), so WR is not a position they have to upgrade. OLine, LBs, DBs (Bly and Kennedy are solid but Bly is getting old) and QBs are their weakest positions (Man, they really suck), not WR.

I was just using the Saints as an example. I realize there are many differences between the Saints and Lions. I dont think you can blame Kitna, Martz has repeatadly stated that he is happy with Kitna. In my eyes I think Calvin Johnson is an elite talent. I dont think that there is an offensive lineman that is a special player in the 2007 draft. Mike Furrey is NOT a decent WR2. Please name any WR2 that Mike Furrey is better than. I honestly cant think of any. With Martz as an offensive coordinator the emphasis is pass first, so how can a WR not be your most glaring when you arguably have the worst #2 WR in all of the NFL.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Its funny but I think Detroit needs to draft Calvin Johnson. This is a cant miss draft pick. Johnson is such a polished reciever and is reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald. The fact that Georgia Tech has a crappy QB makes Calvin Johnson's accomplishments so much more remarkable. The Lions right now have a converted safety for a second wide reciever. Wide reciever has to be there most pressing need. I mean it was painful to watch Furrey come up short twice in the game when he caught the ball 2 yards short of the first down marker and was unable to convert.

They already have Roy Williams, they don't need an other WR. Joe Thomas would be a great pick. With Joe Thomas, Damien Woody, Jeff Backus, Ross Verba, and whoever will be the starting center, you actually have a solid OLine, which would greatly help the offence (and the defence). Now, if they can find a good Dline in the 2nd round to go with Kalimba Edwards, James Hall and Shaun Cody, that would be a huge boost. A much bigger boost than Calvin Johnson.

I disagree using this logic your saying the Saints would be better off this year with D'Brickashaw Ferguson then Marquis Colston. I will even take it a step futher I would be willing to bet that the Saints would rather have Marquis Colston over a young Walter Jones. Having a good complement opposite Roy Williams would make it alot harder to figure out a defensive gameplan against the Lions. The Lions offensive line is not that bad you could do worse. If the Lions defense could actually step up the Lions would have found there way into the win column more than twice.

Colston was a 7th round pick. I think every team would have taken him in the 7th round. However, I don't think every team would take Calvin Johnson if they had the 1st overal pick. And I'd rather have a young Walter Jones over a young Marques Colston. Colston has looked great so far but will he keep that pace? And don't compare the Saints to the Lions. The Saints only have Horn (who is old) besides Colston. The Lions currently have Roy Williams (a stud too) and Mike Furrey (a decent WR2 and solid WR3), so WR is not a position they have to upgrade. OLine, LBs, DBs (Bly and Kennedy are solid but Bly is getting old) and QBs are their weakest positions (Man, they really suck), not WR.

I was just using the Saints as an example. I realize there are many differences between the Saints and Lions. I dont think you can blame Kitna, Martz has repeatadly stated that he is happy with Kitna. In my eyes I think Calvin Johnson is an elite talent. I dont think that there is an offensive lineman that is a special player in the 2007 draft. Mike Furrey is NOT a decent WR2. Please name any WR2 that Mike Furrey is better than. I honestly cant think of any. With Martz as an offensive coordinator the emphasis is pass first, so how can a WR not be your most glaring when you arguably have the worst #2 WR in all of the NFL.

When the hell did #2 WR become so important? P.S.Pats fan - I'd kill to have Mike Furrey on this team.

 

[simmonjm]

Its funny but I think Detroit needs to draft Calvin Johnson. This is a cant miss draft pick. Johnson is such a polished reciever and is reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald. The fact that Georgia Tech has a crappy QB makes Calvin Johnson's accomplishments so much more remarkable. The Lions right now have a converted safety for a second wide reciever. Wide reciever has to be there most pressing need. I mean it was painful to watch Furrey come up short twice in the game when he caught the ball 2 yards short of the first down marker and was unable to convert.

They already have Roy Williams, they don't need an other WR. Joe Thomas would be a great pick. With Joe Thomas, Damien Woody, Jeff Backus, Ross Verba, and whoever will be the starting center, you actually have a solid OLine, which would greatly help the offence (and the defence). Now, if they can find a good Dline in the 2nd round to go with Kalimba Edwards, James Hall and Shaun Cody, that would be a huge boost. A much bigger boost than Calvin Johnson.

I disagree using this logic your saying the Saints would be better off this year with D'Brickashaw Ferguson then Marquis Colston. I will even take it a step futher I would be willing to bet that the Saints would rather have Marquis Colston over a young Walter Jones. Having a good complement opposite Roy Williams would make it alot harder to figure out a defensive gameplan against the Lions. The Lions offensive line is not that bad you could do worse. If the Lions defense could actually step up the Lions would have found there way into the win column more than twice.

Colston was a 7th round pick. I think every team would have taken him in the 7th round. However, I don't think every team would take Calvin Johnson if they had the 1st overal pick. And I'd rather have a young Walter Jones over a young Marques Colston. Colston has looked great so far but will he keep that pace? And don't compare the Saints to the Lions. The Saints only have Horn (who is old) besides Colston. The Lions currently have Roy Williams (a stud too) and Mike Furrey (a decent WR2 and solid WR3), so WR is not a position they have to upgrade. OLine, LBs, DBs (Bly and Kennedy are solid but Bly is getting old) and QBs are their weakest positions (Man, they really suck), not WR.

I was just using the Saints as an example. I realize there are many differences between the Saints and Lions. I dont think you can blame Kitna, Martz has repeatadly stated that he is happy with Kitna. In my eyes I think Calvin Johnson is an elite talent. I dont think that there is an offensive lineman that is a special player in the 2007 draft. Mike Furrey is NOT a decent WR2. Please name any WR2 that Mike Furrey is better than. I honestly cant think of any. With Martz as an offensive coordinator the emphasis is pass first, so how can a WR not be your most glaring when you arguably have the worst #2 WR in all of the NFL.

When the hell did #2 WR become so important? P.S.Pats fan - I'd kill to have Mike Furrey on this team.

There is NO way Furrey is better than Doug Gabriel or Reche Caldwell. Take away any good #2 WR from a team and I would be willing to bet that their points per game average drops 4-7 points.

 

[Buckna]

They could make a lot worse picks than Calvin Johnson and I don't think it's that bad a pick. They would get murdered by the press, commentators and fans though (not that I think Millen cares.) As someone who hopes to draft CJ in dynasty this year, I worry that his talent would go to waste like Rogers or BWM in Detroit. The prospect of a Martz offense with Roy & Calvin is something to drool over.

I really do think they'd go Quinn and let him sit a season behind Kitna as the most likely scenario. Kitna has played that role before and likely would be the good soldier about it too.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Its funny but I think Detroit needs to draft Calvin Johnson. This is a cant miss draft pick. Johnson is such a polished reciever and is reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald. The fact that Georgia Tech has a crappy QB makes Calvin Johnson's accomplishments so much more remarkable. The Lions right now have a converted safety for a second wide reciever. Wide reciever has to be there most pressing need. I mean it was painful to watch Furrey come up short twice in the game when he caught the ball 2 yards short of the first down marker and was unable to convert.

They already have Roy Williams, they don't need an other WR. Joe Thomas would be a great pick. With Joe Thomas, Damien Woody, Jeff Backus, Ross Verba, and whoever will be the starting center, you actually have a solid OLine, which would greatly help the offence (and the defence). Now, if they can find a good Dline in the 2nd round to go with Kalimba Edwards, James Hall and Shaun Cody, that would be a huge boost. A much bigger boost than Calvin Johnson.

I disagree using this logic your saying the Saints would be better off this year with D'Brickashaw Ferguson then Marquis Colston. I will even take it a step futher I would be willing to bet that the Saints would rather have Marquis Colston over a young Walter Jones. Having a good complement opposite Roy Williams would make it alot harder to figure out a defensive gameplan against the Lions. The Lions offensive line is not that bad you could do worse. If the Lions defense could actually step up the Lions would have found there way into the win column more than twice.

Colston was a 7th round pick. I think every team would have taken him in the 7th round. However, I don't think every team would take Calvin Johnson if they had the 1st overal pick. And I'd rather have a young Walter Jones over a young Marques Colston. Colston has looked great so far but will he keep that pace? And don't compare the Saints to the Lions. The Saints only have Horn (who is old) besides Colston. The Lions currently have Roy Williams (a stud too) and Mike Furrey (a decent WR2 and solid WR3), so WR is not a position they have to upgrade. OLine, LBs, DBs (Bly and Kennedy are solid but Bly is getting old) and QBs are their weakest positions (Man, they really suck), not WR.

I was just using the Saints as an example. I realize there are many differences between the Saints and Lions. I dont think you can blame Kitna, Martz has repeatadly stated that he is happy with Kitna. In my eyes I think Calvin Johnson is an elite talent. I dont think that there is an offensive lineman that is a special player in the 2007 draft. Mike Furrey is NOT a decent WR2. Please name any WR2 that Mike Furrey is better than. I honestly cant think of any. With Martz as an offensive coordinator the emphasis is pass first, so how can a WR not be your most glaring when you arguably have the worst #2 WR in all of the NFL.

When the hell did #2 WR become so important? P.S.Pats fan - I'd kill to have Mike Furrey on this team.

There is NO way Furrey is better than Doug Gabriel or Reche Caldwell. Take away any good #2 WR from a team and I would be willing to bet that their points per game average drops 4-7 points.

Caldwell is our #1. Doug Gabriel is garbage - he's played 7 snaps in the last two games. He can't get on the field. Furrey would easily be an upgrade over Gabriel.If you could find some kind of emprical evidence showing that a team loses up to a full touchdown when they lose a "good" WR2, I'd certainly be interested to see it. I think that's ridiculous, really. There's no way the Lions are going to be in the draft room this season thinking "Man - we REALLY need up upgrade over Furrey." And even if they do, there are better ways to upgrade your mediocre WR2 than with a top 5 NFL pick.

 

[mlball77]

I really do think they'd go Quinn and let him sit a season behind Kitna as the most likely scenario. Kitna has played that role before and likely would be the good soldier about it too.

 

[simmonjm]

Its funny but I think Detroit needs to draft Calvin Johnson. This is a cant miss draft pick. Johnson is such a polished reciever and is reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald. The fact that Georgia Tech has a crappy QB makes Calvin Johnson's accomplishments so much more remarkable. The Lions right now have a converted safety for a second wide reciever. Wide reciever has to be there most pressing need. I mean it was painful to watch Furrey come up short twice in the game when he caught the ball 2 yards short of the first down marker and was unable to convert.

They already have Roy Williams, they don't need an other WR. Joe Thomas would be a great pick. With Joe Thomas, Damien Woody, Jeff Backus, Ross Verba, and whoever will be the starting center, you actually have a solid OLine, which would greatly help the offence (and the defence). Now, if they can find a good Dline in the 2nd round to go with Kalimba Edwards, James Hall and Shaun Cody, that would be a huge boost. A much bigger boost than Calvin Johnson.

I disagree using this logic your saying the Saints would be better off this year with D'Brickashaw Ferguson then Marquis Colston. I will even take it a step futher I would be willing to bet that the Saints would rather have Marquis Colston over a young Walter Jones. Having a good complement opposite Roy Williams would make it alot harder to figure out a defensive gameplan against the Lions. The Lions offensive line is not that bad you could do worse. If the Lions defense could actually step up the Lions would have found there way into the win column more than twice.

Colston was a 7th round pick. I think every team would have taken him in the 7th round. However, I don't think every team would take Calvin Johnson if they had the 1st overal pick. And I'd rather have a young Walter Jones over a young Marques Colston. Colston has looked great so far but will he keep that pace? And don't compare the Saints to the Lions. The Saints only have Horn (who is old) besides Colston. The Lions currently have Roy Williams (a stud too) and Mike Furrey (a decent WR2 and solid WR3), so WR is not a position they have to upgrade. OLine, LBs, DBs (Bly and Kennedy are solid but Bly is getting old) and QBs are their weakest positions (Man, they really suck), not WR.

I was just using the Saints as an example. I realize there are many differences between the Saints and Lions. I dont think you can blame Kitna, Martz has repeatadly stated that he is happy with Kitna. In my eyes I think Calvin Johnson is an elite talent. I dont think that there is an offensive lineman that is a special player in the 2007 draft. Mike Furrey is NOT a decent WR2. Please name any WR2 that Mike Furrey is better than. I honestly cant think of any. With Martz as an offensive coordinator the emphasis is pass first, so how can a WR not be your most glaring when you arguably have the worst #2 WR in all of the NFL.

When the hell did #2 WR become so important? P.S.Pats fan - I'd kill to have Mike Furrey on this team.

There is NO way Furrey is better than Doug Gabriel or Reche Caldwell. Take away any good #2 WR from a team and I would be willing to bet that their points per game average drops 4-7 points.

Caldwell is our #1. Doug Gabriel is garbage - he's played 7 snaps in the last two games. He can't get on the field. Furrey would easily be an upgrade over Gabriel.If you could find some kind of emprical evidence showing that a team loses up to a full touchdown when they lose a "good" WR2, I'd certainly be interested to see it. I think that's ridiculous, really. There's no way the Lions are going to be in the draft room this season thinking "Man - we REALLY need up upgrade over Furrey." And even if they do, there are better ways to upgrade your mediocre WR2 than with a top 5 NFL pick.

I dont have the stats off hand. I might have pulled them out of thin air. But it seems like common sense to me. If anyone has the stats please let me know. Gabriel is way more talented than Furrey and I would venture to say that Troy Brown is better than Furrey.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

If Joe Thomas (OT, Wisconsin) grades out as high as people think he will, that should be their selection. Kitna isn't that bad (only old), KJ, the TE's and WR's are decent to above average. The swiss cheese O'line is what keeps this team from being competitive.They'll probably take Quinn though as he seems the most likely selection. Of course that will then ruin another top QB prospect with a porous O'line.

I want to hear:"With the 2nd pick in the NFL draft, the Arizona Cardinals....select: Joe Thomas."A.Bucky homerB.Arizona is only 3 O-Lineman away from being the next FF juggernaut... **Long time Fitz/Edge owner

 

[diesel7982]

Its funny but I think Detroit needs to draft Calvin Johnson. This is a cant miss draft pick. Johnson is such a polished reciever and is reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald. The fact that Georgia Tech has a crappy QB makes Calvin Johnson's accomplishments so much more remarkable. The Lions right now have a converted safety for a second wide reciever. Wide reciever has to be there most pressing need. I mean it was painful to watch Furrey come up short twice in the game when he caught the ball 2 yards short of the first down marker and was unable to convert.

They already have Roy Williams, they don't need an other WR.

True...why draft a guy who will probably be the next Larry Fitzgerald when you have Mike Furrey, Eddie Drummond, and Devale Ellis to take the pressure off Roy in an offense that is very WR-centric and throws the ball 35-40 times a game?

So you think a WR2 is more important than a competent offensive line, a quarterback of the future, or an addition to a bottom 5 NFL defense?

Martz' system doesnt run unless it has the WRs to run it. By your logic, the Rams shouldnt have drafted Torry Holt, they already had Isaac Bruce. Does that sounds :shortbus: to you?Every NFL team is different, and every team values each position differently. Obviously a WR2 is going to be of much greater value to a team like DET than a team like San Diego. A blanket statement like you just posted is quite foolish in that respect.But to apply all of this to the specific players who will be available in the 2007 draft, Id imagine the Lions will look at it this way:Joe Thomas:They have Jeff Backus, currently one of the 5 highest paid LTs in the NFL, at Left tackle. Would they draft Joe Thomas, pay him $25+ mil up front, and then play him at RT? Would they shift Backus over to RT, which hed be horribly suited for?Brady Quinn:A possibility, but with the success Martz has had developing QBs, and the play of Kitna so far this year, will they really spend a top draft pick on Quinn and set their timeframe to win back by a couple years?Defense(Gaines Adams, etc)Who is worth taking with a top 3 pick? Adams? Cory Redding is a budding star, and Kalimba Edwards just signed a big extenstion. Calvin Johnson/Other WR:Once Mike Williams is released in the offseason, the Lions will have Mike Furrey, Eddie Drummond, Corey Bradford, and assorted other crap to play WR2 in Martz's offense, which heavily focuses on, and demands great play from the WRs. We've seen the entire Lions' offense shut down this year repeatedly when Roy has been taken out of the game by double teams. Calvin Johnson is one of the best WR prospects to come out in the last 5 years, and there are a host of other 1st round caliber WRs that would also be able to make an immediate impact for the Lions. Johnson, in my mind, is the safest pick in the 2007 draft, and would fill a HUGE need for the Lions, while representing the best value on the board. So to answer your question, in this specific instance, yes, a WR2 is more valuable than "a competent offensive line, a quarterback of the future, or an addition to a bottom 5 NFL defense".A star WR2 will greatly improve this offense, and this can be done by adding only one player. Joe Thomas isnt going to step in and make the line competent, and the Lions have a better defense when healthy than you are crediting them for. WRs can make a big impact in the NFL. For evidence of this, I suggest you look at EVERY NFL DRAFT of the past 30 years and notice how there are often WRs taken amongst the top 10 picks, over LTs, QBs, and even defensive players.

 

[mad sweeney]

Its funny but I think Detroit needs to draft Calvin Johnson. This is a cant miss draft pick. Johnson is such a polished reciever and is reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald. The fact that Georgia Tech has a crappy QB makes Calvin Johnson's accomplishments so much more remarkable. The Lions right now have a converted safety for a second wide reciever. Wide reciever has to be there most pressing need. I mean it was painful to watch Furrey come up short twice in the game when he caught the ball 2 yards short of the first down marker and was unable to convert.

** - not talking about the grammatical error

I got tryptophan and alcohol in my system I cannot be held responsible for grammatical errors. What in your opinion is the Lions most pressing need?

Don't let him give you any guff. It's not a grammatical error, it's a simple spelling error. Might even be classified as a typo. But grammatical? No.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Martz' system doesnt run unless it has the WRs to run it. By your logic, the Rams shouldnt have drafted Torry Holt, they already had Isaac Bruce. Does that sounds :shortbus: to you?Every NFL team is different, and every team values each position differently. Obviously a WR2 is going to be of much greater value to a team like DET than a team like San Diego. A blanket statement like you just posted is quite foolish in that respect.But to apply all of this to the specific players who will be available in the 2007 draft, Id imagine the Lions will look at it this way:Joe Thomas:They have Jeff Backus, currently one of the 5 highest paid LTs in the NFL, at Left tackle. Would they draft Joe Thomas, pay him $25+ mil up front, and then play him at RT? Would they shift Backus over to RT, which hed be horribly suited for?Brady Quinn:A possibility, but with the success Martz has had developing QBs, and the play of Kitna so far this year, will they really spend a top draft pick on Quinn and set their timeframe to win back by a couple years?Defense(Gaines Adams, etc)Who is worth taking with a top 3 pick? Adams? Cory Redding is a budding star, and Kalimba Edwards just signed a big extenstion. Calvin Johnson/Other WR:Once Mike Williams is released in the offseason, the Lions will have Mike Furrey, Eddie Drummond, Corey Bradford, and assorted other crap to play WR2 in Martz's offense, which heavily focuses on, and demands great play from the WRs. We've seen the entire Lions' offense shut down this year repeatedly when Roy has been taken out of the game by double teams. Calvin Johnson is one of the best WR prospects to come out in the last 5 years, and there are a host of other 1st round caliber WRs that would also be able to make an immediate impact for the Lions. Johnson, in my mind, is the safest pick in the 2007 draft, and would fill a HUGE need for the Lions, while representing the best value on the board. So to answer your question, in this specific instance, yes, a WR2 is more valuable than "a competent offensive line, a quarterback of the future, or an addition to a bottom 5 NFL defense".A star WR2 will greatly improve this offense, and this can be done by adding only one player. Joe Thomas isnt going to step in and make the line competent, and the Lions have a better defense when healthy than you are crediting them for. WRs can make a big impact in the NFL. For evidence of this, I suggest you look at EVERY NFL DRAFT of the past 30 years and notice how there are often WRs taken amongst the top 10 picks, over LTs, QBs, and even defensive players.

so because the Rams had two really good receivers under Mike Martz, that means they didn't have a competent offensive line or a competent quarterback? why would you compare one position between the two teams and not the rest?It is not "foolish" to say that QUARTERBACK is more important than WR2. It's pretty scary that you actually think that.Just because Mike Martz is on two teams doesn't mean they're the same teams. The Rams also had a perennial Pro Bowl tackle during that time, and Warner was making the Pro Bowl every season. Not to mention that guy named Marshall Faulk.So you can tell me that it's most important for the Lions to get their Tory Holt & Isaac Bruce, but I think if you're going to compare the two teams (which is stupid anyway), they first need to get their Orlando Pace, Kurt Warner, and hell, they're Marshall Faulk. Unless you think Kitna and Jones are Warner and Faulk in their prime?

 

[PatsWillWin]

Its funny but I think Detroit needs to draft Calvin Johnson. This is a cant miss draft pick. Johnson is such a polished reciever and is reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald. The fact that Georgia Tech has a crappy QB makes Calvin Johnson's accomplishments so much more remarkable. The Lions right now have a converted safety for a second wide reciever. Wide reciever has to be there most pressing need. I mean it was painful to watch Furrey come up short twice in the game when he caught the ball 2 yards short of the first down marker and was unable to convert.

** - not talking about the grammatical error

I got tryptophan and alcohol in my system I cannot be held responsible for grammatical errors. What in your opinion is the Lions most pressing need?

Don't let him give you any guff. It's not a grammatical error, it's a simple spelling error. Might even be classified as a typo. But grammatical? No.

I wasn't really looking to make a big deal out of the error, I was just pointing out that I was not highlighting that sentence because of it.But it is a grammatical error. Here go read: http://bio.classes.ucsc.edu/bio20L/info/writ/pairs.htm

 

[tribecalledjeff]

Its funny but I think Detroit needs to draft Calvin Johnson. This is a cant miss draft pick. Johnson is such a polished reciever and is reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald. The fact that Georgia Tech has a crappy QB makes Calvin Johnson's accomplishments so much more remarkable. The Lions right now have a converted safety for a second wide reciever. Wide reciever has to be there most pressing need. I mean it was painful to watch Furrey come up short twice in the game when he caught the ball 2 yards short of the first down marker and was unable to convert.

** - not talking about the grammatical error

I got tryptophan and alcohol in my system I cannot be held responsible for grammatical errors. What in your opinion is the Lions most pressing need?

Don't let him give you any guff. It's not a grammatical error, it's a simple spelling error. Might even be classified as a typo. But grammatical? No.

That's either a grammatical error or a vocabulary error. It's not a spelling error. You're telling me the dude spelled tryptophan correctly and then couldn't handle the word "their?" In this case it was certainly a tired and drunk guy just not thinking or caring, which is fine. But if a teacher were to grade this, they would not circle the word and write "sp" next to it. They would address the real issue, which is the difference between "their," "they're," and "there." I was going to post something regarding the Lions, but diesel pretty much said everything I could say, and better than I could say it. So yeah, what he said. Take CJ. Don't even think about it as a WR2. The goal would be to have two WR1.

 

[zenzephyros]

Pick the best player in the draft, because the Lions need help EVERYWHERE. If there were two positions that they have a future at... it would WR and RB... so maybe pay less attention to those two positions... especially in the early rounds. One thing is for sure... this team needs a "QB of the future" badly. Unfortunately... he will probably be the next Harrington if they try throwing him behind that awful O-line.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I was going to post something regarding the Lions, but diesel pretty much said everything I could say, and better than I could say it. So yeah, what he said. Take CJ. Don't even think about it as a WR2. The goal would be to have two WR1.

I wonder if this was the line when they took Charles Rogers and Mike Williams?

 

[-OZ-]

They already have Roy Williams, they don't need an other WR. Joe Thomas would be a great pick. With Joe Thomas, Damien Woody, Jeff Backus, Ross Verba, and whoever will be the starting center, you actually have a solid OLine, which would greatly help the offence (and the defence). Now, if they can find a good Dline in the 2nd round to go with Kalimba Edwards, James Hall and Shaun Cody, that would be a huge boost. A much bigger boost than Calvin Johnson.

he speaks the truth guys.Lions don't need DL help... they just need a DL that's healthy.They do need OL help though. A new stud tackle would do wonders for the team.Joe Thomas would be my pick.However, because they aren't going to Josh McCown, it means to me they don't see him as the future. If that's the case, I don't see how they pass on Brady Quinn or Troy Smith (probably Quinn).Naturally the best "idea" is to trade down... but that isn't going to happen, and they'll end up having to take the player they want at #1.

True enough, although they need to get Orlovsky in for a couple games this year to see if he has any potential. If he could even be a serviceable game manager with his cannon arm, the Lions would be much better off addressing the OL and DL depth in the first few rounds. Possibly add in blocking TE, and they'd be much improved (on paper, as always with the Paper Lions)

 

[lions327]

The Lions glaring needs are on defense. A dominant MLB, a shut down CB, or a pure pass rushing DE are the biggest needs.

 

[lions327]

The Lions glaring needs are on defense. A dominant MLB, a shut down CB, or a pure pass rushing DE are the biggest needs.

Oops, I forgot something, the above are the 2nd greatest needs....the biggest need is getting rid of Millen....my bad.

 

[Capt Hook]

Its funny but I think Detroit needs to draft Calvin Johnson. This is a cant miss draft pick. Johnson is such a polished reciever and is reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald. The fact that Georgia Tech has a crappy QB makes Calvin Johnson's accomplishments so much more remarkable. The Lions right now have a converted safety for a second wide reciever. Wide reciever has to be there most pressing need. I mean it was painful to watch Furrey come up short twice in the game when he caught the ball 2 yards short of the first down marker and was unable to convert.

They already have Roy Williams, they don't need an other WR. Joe Thomas would be a great pick. With Joe Thomas, Damien Woody, Jeff Backus, Ross Verba, and whoever will be the starting center, you actually have a solid OLine, which would greatly help the offence (and the defence). Now, if they can find a good Dline in the 2nd round to go with Kalimba Edwards, James Hall and Shaun Cody, that would be a huge boost. A much bigger boost than Calvin Johnson.

I disagree using this logic your saying the Saints would be better off this year with D'Brickashaw Ferguson then Marquis Colston. I will even take it a step futher I would be willing to bet that the Saints would rather have Marquis Colston over a young Walter Jones. Having a good complement opposite Roy Williams would make it alot harder to figure out a defensive gameplan against the Lions. The Lions offensive line is not that bad you could do worse. If the Lions defense could actually step up the Lions would have found there way into the win column more than twice.

Uh, NO - the Saints could have drafted both - Colston was a seventh round pick, so the Lions can take Thomas, take a D lineman in the second and get a few WR candidates in subsequent rounds.

 

[ILoveMyLions]

The Lions glaring needs are on defense. A dominant MLB, a shut down CB, or a pure pass rushing DE are the biggest needs.

A shutdown CB isn't needed in the Tampa 2, although they could some different corners than they currently have on their roster. For instance, Bly isn't really suited for this defense and I wouldn't be shocked if they let him go in the next year. They need a CB with more size and aggresive ability. I agree that a dominant MLB would be a great fit if there was one available at the top of the draft. Perhaps in the 2nd or 3rd round, that would be area they could address. DE or OT is the way this team needs to go in the first round. The battle is won up front and this team loses this battle on both sides of the ball most weeks. Football is still a simple game when you break it down as it's won at the line of scrimmage...

 

[PatsWillWin]

The Lions glaring needs are on defense. A dominant MLB, a shut down CB, or a pure pass rushing DE are the biggest needs.

A shutdown CB isn't needed in the Tampa 2, although they could some different corners than they currently have on their roster. For instance, Bly isn't really suited for this defense and I wouldn't be shocked if they let him go in the next year. They need a CB with more size and aggresive ability. I agree that a dominant MLB would be a great fit if there was one available at the top of the draft. Perhaps in the 2nd or 3rd round, that would be area they could address. DE or OT is the way this team needs to go in the first round. The battle is won up front and this team loses this battle on both sides of the ball most weeks. Football is still a simple game when you break it down as it's won at the line of scrimmage...

Lions fan somehow thinking that the top 5 pick should go somewhere else other than the glaring WR2 spot.

 

[Buckna]

If Joe Thomas (OT, Wisconsin) grades out as high as people think he will, that should be their selection. Kitna isn't that bad (only old), KJ, the TE's and WR's are decent to above average. The swiss cheese O'line is what keeps this team from being competitive.They'll probably take Quinn though as he seems the most likely selection. Of course that will then ruin another top QB prospect with a porous O'line.

I want to hear:"With the 2nd pick in the NFL draft, the Arizona Cardinals....select: Joe Thomas."A.Bucky homerB.Arizona is only 3 O-Lineman away from being the next FF juggernaut... **Long time Fitz/Edge owner

There are a number of teams in the mix for a top 5 pick and most need O'line help: Oakland, Arizona, Houston, Cleveland. As a Houston fan I would love him, but I would be surprised if we go that way.Peterson looks to be a lock for Oakland right now but some people seem to think they would go Calvin Johnson. Gallery has been such a huge bust I wonder if they would be gun-shy of taking another OT high.Tenn needs a WR in the worst way, the question will be how high will they be drafting if their defense keeps playing as well as they have. They might end up with a Ted Ginn or Dwayne Jarrett or the like if they can't get Johnson.

 

[TheWick]

They HAVE to go O-Line and I think they will. Martz will help them find a good WR2 in the later rounds "Kevin Curtis" his offense is not for route runners period. Sure its nice to have a 6'5" WR who can jump out of the stadium but he is less valuable in a timing offense like Martz runs...of course this is all assuming he'll be back

 

[mad sweeney]

Its funny but I think Detroit needs to draft Calvin Johnson. This is a cant miss draft pick. Johnson is such a polished reciever and is reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald. The fact that Georgia Tech has a crappy QB makes Calvin Johnson's accomplishments so much more remarkable. The Lions right now have a converted safety for a second wide reciever. Wide reciever has to be there most pressing need. I mean it was painful to watch Furrey come up short twice in the game when he caught the ball 2 yards short of the first down marker and was unable to convert.

** - not talking about the grammatical error

I got tryptophan and alcohol in my system I cannot be held responsible for grammatical errors. What in your opinion is the Lions most pressing need?

Don't let him give you any guff. It's not a grammatical error, it's a simple spelling error. Might even be classified as a typo. But grammatical? No.

I wasn't really looking to make a big deal out of the error, I was just pointing out that I was not highlighting that sentence because of it.But it is a grammatical error. Here go read: http://bio.classes.ucsc.edu/bio20L/info/writ/pairs.htm

I thought you were talking about the highlighted misspelled word (reciever), didn't even finish the sentence to see the homonym. I used to try try at first to subtly point out small errors that could be fixed to raise the level of the shark pool (especially among some mods and FBG writers who as professional writers I felt should be correct) to high school senior levels. Especially posts that were calling me and others' posts or points stupid. Doesn't work, it's hopeless. I got stomped. Like the Lions. So now I just live with apostrophied plurals, misused homonyms, Shawn Alexander's, must ofs (instead of must have), their, they're, there, misspelling vs simple typos and all the rest. It's sad really. Just like the Lions

 

[Britney Spears]

Is it a sure thing that Martz is even there next year? Just asking.

 

[s_ezy]

I was going to post something regarding the Lions, but diesel pretty much said everything I could say, and better than I could say it. So yeah, what he said. Take CJ. Don't even think about it as a WR2. The goal would be to have two WR1.

I wonder if this was the line when they took Charles Rogers and Mike Williams?

this is also what Arizona hasBoldin and Fitz as co-WR#1soh yeah, how is that working out in the desert with NO offensive line......going to get them a top 5 pick