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The 2011 - "Way too early" 2012 NFL mock draft (1 Viewer)

Andy Dufresne

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So the season's half over meaning about half the teams in the league and their fans need to look forward to next year.

Rules

This is based off of current standings. I'm not making playoff predictions yet.

I'm not too familiar with all the guys yet and am just starting to read up on them. So discuss which player you like better than one ranked above him here, but understand that I'm not really ranking the guys' talent myself, just basing it off of what I've read.

More often than not, I picked what appears to be the most glaring need for a team and filled in a guy that should be a first rounder. So let's not have too much of "No way would Team A take player B." Discuss better fits, of course, but this isn't meant to be too much of a prediction at this point.

Also, just for fun, I've added the first song that comes to my mind when I think of either the team or the pick. I'm cornball that way. So, here we go...

Indianapolis Colts - Andrew Luck QB Stanford

My Life Would Suck Without You - Kelly Clarkson (See what I did there?)

Miami Dolphins - Matt Barkley QB Southern California

Starting Over - John Lennon (And over...and over...)

St Louis Rams - Justin Blackmon WR Oklahoma State

"57 Channels (And Nothin' On)" - Springsteen (Applies to the Rams' WR corps.)

Arizona Cardinals - Matt Kalil OT Southern California

Could I've Been So Blind - Black Crowes (Should have taken AP instead of Levi Brown.)

Minnesota Vikings - Jonathan Martin OT Stanford

Catch My Fall - Billy Idol (Ponder not looking like such a bad pick.)

Jacksonville Jaguars - Alshon Jeffery WR South Carolina

Slow Ride - Foghat (There is nothing exciting about this offense.)

Carolina Panthers - Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama

Little Suzie's on the Up - Tesla (Things are getting better now that Cam's in town.)

Seattle Seahawks - Landry Jones QB Oklahoma

Once in a Lifetime - Talking Heads (Pete Carrol always has that "How did I get here?" look on his face.)

Denver Broncos - Robert Griffin QB 5 Baylor

Black Horse & The Cherry Tree - KT Tunstall (I said no, no, you're not the one for me...Tim Tebow.)

Washington Redskins - Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M

Wrong Man For The Job - JoJo (Shanahan still riding Elway's coattails 13 years later.)

Philadelphia Eagles - Luke Kuechly ILB 1 Boston College

Mystify - INXS (Down one week, up the next.)

Dallas Cowboys - Morris Claiborne CB LSU

So Far Away - Nick Carter (No question Jerry wants it. Maybe he should let someone else get it for him.)

Cleveland Browns - Trent Richardson RB Alabama

Last In Line - Dio (In a division with the Steelers, Ravens, and resurgent Bengals team you are...)

Tennessee Titans - Brandon Thompson DT Clemson

Just Got Paid - ZZ Top (And now I don't work no mo'.)

Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska

Fallen Angel - Poison (Better luck next year.)

San Diego Chargers - Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington

Deadbeat Club - B-52's (Will they ever live up to their potential?)

Cincinnati Bengals (from Oakland Raiders) - Janoris Jenkins CB North Alabama

Thank You For The Music - Abba (And thanks for being a sucker, Oakland.)

New York Jets - Courtney Upshaw OLB Alabama

Talk, Talk - Talk, Talk (All you do to me is talk, talk....Talk, talk, talk, talk, talk All you do to me is talk, talk)

Kansas City Chiefs - Peter Konz C Wisconsin

Whats Going On - 4 Non Blondes (Is there another team in the league with less "identity"?)

Chicago Bears - Zach Brown OLB North Carolina

Another One Bites The Dust - Queen (In this case the "One" being Jay Cutler.)

Atlanta Falcons - Chase Minnifield CB Virginia

Who Are You - The Who (Are you or are you not a good team?)

Cleveland Browns - Chase Minnifield CB Virginia

Father and Son - Cat Stevens (Chase is Frank's kid)

New Orleans Saints - Riley Reiff OT Iowa

Roll Me Away - Bob Seger (That's what Brees may be singing soon.)

Houston Texans - Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame

Come Together - The Beatles (An offense AND defense?)

New York Giants - DJ Fluker OT Alabama

I Don't Know - Ozzy Osbourne (I don't know if this team is any good or not.)

New England Patriots - Quinton Coples DE North Carolina

Crash - The Primitives (Are they still among the league's elite?)

Cincinnati Bengals - Lamar Miller RB Miami

Brand New Lover - Dead or Alive (Marv has to be the happiest guy around shedding the baggage he has.)

Buffalo Bills - Xavier Rhodes CB Florida State

From Out of Nowhere - Faith No More (What a fun story this team is.)

Baltimore Ravens - Nick Toon WR Wisconsin

It Can Happen - Yes (They could ride this defense and Ray Rice all the way.)

Pittsburgh Steelers - Mike Adams OT Ohio State

Alive & Kicking - Simple Minds (Rumors of their defense's demise are greatly exaggerated.)

Detroit Lions - Dont'a Hightower ILB Alabama

Your Wildest Dreams - The Moody Blues (How far can they go?)

San Francisco 49ers - Ryan Broyles WR Oklahoma

New Kid In Town - The Eagles (Nice job, Jim Harbaugh.)

Green Bay Packers - Cordy Glenn OG Georgia

Top Of The World - Van Halen (Clearly the best team in the league right now.)
 
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I like Alshon Jeffery, but his weight issues scare me. If Vikings can't get Blackmon, I would be ecstatic to get a linemen, and then build on the secondary and wR corps through free agency and rounds 2-7

 
I like the Packers going Defense. With Sherrod drafted last year and the emergence of Newhouse this year; OL is not the biggest priority. Though I wouldn't complain if they did continue to draft OL in the 1st round. Protecting Rodgers is the #1, 2 and 4th most important jobs.

#3 most important is the defense. I'd really like to see more work on that DL; frankly, I'm ready to label Neal a bust and move on. And with Nick Collins injury; Safety position may be a big need.

 
Have 5 QBs ever gone in the top 10 picks?
Supply meets demand. Ultimately, I'm not sure Tannehill will be a 1st rounder but Shanahan is crazy.
I like the Packers going Defense. With Sherrod drafted last year and the emergence of Newhouse this year; OL is not the biggest priority. Though I wouldn't complain if they did continue to draft OL in the 1st round. Protecting Rodgers is the #1, 2 and 4th most important jobs. #3 most important is the defense. I'd really like to see more work on that DL; frankly, I'm ready to label Neal a bust and move on. And with Nick Collins injury; Safety position may be a big need.
Doesn't TT normally take BPA? They need help in the secondary, but the talent's not there at that spot after the guys listed have already gone.
 
Not sure we'll see that many QBs in the top 15, though it wouldn't stun me.

I don't think Trent Richardson will fall that far. There aren't many teams in the top 10 with acute RB needs, but he's just too good to slip out of the top 10. He is one of the top 3-5 players in the pool.

As a Stanford fan, I think OG David DeCastro is a better pro prospect than OT Jonathan Martin, but the relative prestige of tackles compared to guards means Martin will likely be the higher pick, as you have it here. I still think DeCastro sneaks into the first round. He is going to be a good one, IMO.

 
Not sure we'll see that many QBs in the top 15, though it wouldn't stun me. I don't think Trent Richardson will fall that far. There aren't many teams in the top 10 with acute RB needs, but he's just too good to slip out of the top 10. He is one of the top 3-5 players in the pool.As a Stanford fan, I think OG David DeCastro is a better pro prospect than OT Jonathan Martin, but the relative prestige of tackles compared to guards means Martin will likely be the higher pick, as you have it here. I still think DeCastro sneaks into the first round. He is going to be a good one, IMO.
Arizona, Seattle, Denver, and Washington could all be in the running for Richardson.DeCastro was the 33rd player in this mock. He was in it (to the Saints) until the last second.
 
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I like Alshon Jeffery, but his weight issues scare me. If Vikings can't get Blackmon, I would be ecstatic to get a linemen, and then build on the secondary and wR corps through free agency and rounds 2-7
I'm not sure, but I think that picture posted here last week was a joke. That's not how he looked on the field this past week or at any point this year.
 
Cleveland has Atlanta's pick, so please give us another player there. :yes:

Another WR would be WERY WERY nice.

 
I see no way that that the Panthers take a CB in the first round. Chris Gamble has shut down every #1 receiver they have faced this season, and is cementing himself as one of the better CB's in the league. Captain Munnerlyn is young, but improving every game. They have some good young players as well.

If they pick anything other that a defensive lineman, I would be shocked.

 
Cleveland has Atlanta's pick, so please give us another player there. :yes:Another WR would be WERY WERY nice.
I didn't change the name of the team after the strikethrough, but I think they could also use Minnefield.But Michael Floyd would definitely be a good pick for them, I think. The offense would pick up nicely if they were able to draft Richardson and Floyd, wouldn't it?
 
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To turn this a bit toward the fantasy football side of this, what teams would have both the means (the pick) and the need to get one of the "stud" RBs coming out.

Looks to me like those would be Cleveland and Cincinnati. I believe both have two first round picks in 2012 (thanks to the Julio Jones trade and the Carson Palmer trade). As such, would the "shark move" be to downgrade Benson, Scott, Hillis and Hardesty in dynasty leagues right now?

 
To turn this a bit toward the fantasy football side of this, what teams would have both the means (the pick) and the need to get one of the "stud" RBs coming out.Looks to me like those would be Cleveland and Cincinnati. I believe both have two first round picks in 2012 (thanks to the Julio Jones trade and the Carson Palmer trade). As such, would the "shark move" be to downgrade Benson, Scott, Hillis and Hardesty in dynasty leagues right now?
I think all those guys should be downgraded because they've shown they're not very good. Compound that with the idea that these teams could pick an RB and I'd say the answer is definitely yes.However, at this time there doesn't look to be more than one stud RB coming out.
 
I know you probably don't want to deal with trades, but I think if Indy is #1 and Miami is #2, a trade happens and Miami ends up with Luck. It makes so much sense (keep in mind I'm a Miami fan, so I do have a bias). Indy has Manning and I think they have incentive to treat him well. He's a sure fire Hall of Famer who the fans love and he should have several seasons left in him if all goes well. Indy drafting luck puts everyone in an uncomfortable position, nobody wants to see Manning in another uniform or a Manning/Luck controversy. Then there's Miami, they've got a new owner who is infatuated with the big names and what bigger name could he bring in to excite the fans and repent for this horrible season than Andrew Luck? If any team in this draft is in a position to give up way too much to move up 1 spot to get the big name, it's Miami. Indy brings in a huge haul for the #1 pick, gets the next best player on their board (with no pressure for it to be a QB) and gets to treat Peyton Manning in the way he should be treated. Works for everyone right?

 
'Andy Dufresne said:
'matttyl said:
To turn this a bit toward the fantasy football side of this, what teams would have both the means (the pick) and the need to get one of the "stud" RBs coming out.Looks to me like those would be Cleveland and Cincinnati. I believe both have two first round picks in 2012 (thanks to the Julio Jones trade and the Carson Palmer trade). As such, would the "shark move" be to downgrade Benson, Scott, Hillis and Hardesty in dynasty leagues right now?
I think all those guys should be downgraded because they've shown they're not very good. Compound that with the idea that these teams could pick an RB and I'd say the answer is definitely yes.However, at this time there doesn't look to be more than one stud RB coming out.
True that on only one stud - but if Cleveland and Cincinnati both take RBs in the first two rounds I think my point is the same. A first or second round RB would give any RB on either of those teams a run for the starting gig, or at least for a large chunk of the carries.Another thing to consider, is that if Richardson is being projected to go to either Cleveland or Cincinnati, he will have 4 games per year against the Ravens and Steelers. Might want to temper expectations if that's the case....
 
Rookie salary slotting, IMO, is going to allow IOL to go earlier than they have previously gone.

DeCastro is a top 15 pick in my book.

If I'm wrong and he's there when the Steelers pick...he's a no brainer.

 
I know you probably don't want to deal with trades, but I think if Indy is #1 and Miami is #2, a trade happens and Miami ends up with Luck. It makes so much sense (keep in mind I'm a Miami fan, so I do have a bias). Indy has Manning and I think they have incentive to treat him well. He's a sure fire Hall of Famer who the fans love and he should have several seasons left in him if all goes well. Indy drafting luck puts everyone in an uncomfortable position, nobody wants to see Manning in another uniform or a Manning/Luck controversy. Then there's Miami, they've got a new owner who is infatuated with the big names and what bigger name could he bring in to excite the fans and repent for this horrible season than Andrew Luck? If any team in this draft is in a position to give up way too much to move up 1 spot to get the big name, it's Miami. Indy brings in a huge haul for the #1 pick, gets the next best player on their board (with no pressure for it to be a QB) and gets to treat Peyton Manning in the way he should be treated. Works for everyone right?
Maybe. But then maybe you have a Steve Young/Joe Montana or Brett Favre/Aaron Rodgers type situation. In this situation, it would all depend on what Indy could get in exchange.
 
I could see 5 teams prior to the Browns picking up Richardson where you have him slotted, I really don't see him falling outside of the top 7-8 picks.

 
I know you probably don't want to deal with trades, but I think if Indy is #1 and Miami is #2, a trade happens and Miami ends up with Luck. It makes so much sense (keep in mind I'm a Miami fan, so I do have a bias). Indy has Manning and I think they have incentive to treat him well. He's a sure fire Hall of Famer who the fans love and he should have several seasons left in him if all goes well. Indy drafting luck puts everyone in an uncomfortable position, nobody wants to see Manning in another uniform or a Manning/Luck controversy. Then there's Miami, they've got a new owner who is infatuated with the big names and what bigger name could he bring in to excite the fans and repent for this horrible season than Andrew Luck? If any team in this draft is in a position to give up way too much to move up 1 spot to get the big name, it's Miami. Indy brings in a huge haul for the #1 pick, gets the next best player on their board (with no pressure for it to be a QB) and gets to treat Peyton Manning in the way he should be treated. Works for everyone right?
Maybe. But then maybe you have a Steve Young/Joe Montana or Brett Favre/Aaron Rodgers type situation. In this situation, it would all depend on what Indy could get in exchange.
Of course you're right, I just think in this situation Miami's ownership would be willing to give up a lot in order to have a big name the fans could view as a savior come to town and Indy could take in a good haul and not force themselves into a QB controversy and send Peyton to play for another team. In the case of Young/Rodgers, they had been backups for a few years and when they were brought in it wasn't exactly expected they'd compete for the starting job right away. I'm not sure there's that same dynamic with picking Andrew Luck #1.
 
I only have 1 rule when it comes to evaluating mock drafts. Go straight to #32, if it's Green Bay, give the mock an A+.

Nice work, Andy. :thumbup:

 
Off the top of my head (sort of) update (with a couple trades just for fun):

Indianapolis - Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford

Washington (from Minnesota) - Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor

St. Louis - Matt Kalil, LT, USC

Miami (from Minnesota from Washington) - Matt Barkley, QB, USC

Jacksonville - Justin Blackmon, WR, OkSt

Carolina - Morris Claiborne, BC, LSU

Minnesota (from Miami) - Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford

Cleveland - Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama

Tampa Bay - Dre' Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama

Philadelphia - Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

Buffalo - Devon Still, DT, Penn State

Kansas City - Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor

Arizona - Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa

Seattle - Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers

San Diego - Courtney Upshaw, OLB, Alabama

Dallas - Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama

Tennessee - Zach Brown, OLB, North Carolina

Cincinnati - Lamar Miller, RB, Miami (Fla.)

Chicago - David DeCastro, OG, Stanford

Cincinnati (from Oakland) - Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska

New York Giants - Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina

Cleveland (from Atlanta) - Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M

New York Jets - Brandon Lindsey, OLB, Pittsburgh

Denver - Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State

Detroit - Dont'a Hightower, ILB, Alabama

New England (from New Orleans) - Mark Barron, SS, Alabama

New England - Dontari Poe, DT/NG, Memphis

San Francisco - Cordy Glenn, OG, Georgia

Baltimore - Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin

Pittsburgh - Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State

Houston - Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina

Green Bay - Chase Minnefield, CB, Virginia

 
No way the Bills take Still, even if we go back to a 4-3 Dareus and Kyle Williams already making so much and Troup coming back from injury is the rotational and Kellen Heard has been playing well.

they need OLB, DE, WR more than anything

QB too lol.

 
WR is one of the few positions that the Seahawks have plenty of depth at. No way they take one in the first round. They don't have a top 10 guy, but they're solid, even with a crappy QB.

 
No way the Bills take Still, even if we go back to a 4-3 Dareus and Kyle Williams already making so much and Troup coming back from injury is the rotational and Kellen Heard has been playing well.they need OLB, DE, WR more than anythingQB too lol.
Still would play DE. And at that spot, it wouldn't be about the money.
 
WR is one of the few positions that the Seahawks have plenty of depth at. No way they take one in the first round. They don't have a top 10 guy, but they're solid, even with a crappy QB.
Please. The depth chart might be full but it's not full with talent at all.
Uhhh yes it is.Sidney Rice is a great #1Mike Williams is more then a serviceable #2Doug Baldwin has been awesome as a rookie (not sure how many games you've watch but the kids the real deal and will lead the team in yards and receptions as a rookie)add in Zack Miller at TE and the receiving options on the Hawks are about the last thing that needs to be addressed.
 
No way the Bills take Still, even if we go back to a 4-3 Dareus and Kyle Williams already making so much and Troup coming back from injury is the rotational and Kellen Heard has been playing well.they need OLB, DE, WR more than anythingQB too lol.
Still would play DE. And at that spot, it wouldn't be about the money.
Can he rush the passer? Thats the absolute biggest thing that Buffalo needs. Pressure. As for my favorite team, Dallas. CB is a huge need obviously with Newman badly fading. Everything that I'm reading, however, is that CB is one of the deepest positions in the draft and quality guys can be had in the 2nd and 3rd. Plus, I'm not sure that Jenkins is a Garrett "Right Kind of Guy". I actually think that the key to the Dallas draft will be what they chose to do with Spencer. If they don't resign him, then OLB beoomes the top priority. IF the do, then it opens up a whole host of positions, including DL, OG/C, CB and S. But again, the CB depth of this draft class likely has them passing that spot in the first.
 
WR is one of the few positions that the Seahawks have plenty of depth at. No way they take one in the first round. They don't have a top 10 guy, but they're solid, even with a crappy QB.
Please. The depth chart might be full but it's not full with talent at all.
Uhhh yes it is.Sidney Rice is a great #1Mike Williams is more then a serviceable #2Doug Baldwin has been awesome as a rookie (not sure how many games you've watch but the kids the real deal and will lead the team in yards and receptions as a rookie)add in Zack Miller at TE and the receiving options on the Hawks are about the last thing that needs to be addressed.
Sidney Rice is great when he's on the field. Which is almost never.Mike Williams has 16 catches this year. That's "serviceable"?Balwin is a nice story and he might be worthwhile.They're 24th in passing yards, and 25th in points. If these guys played to the level they're capable of then you'd have something. But they've proven that the team can't rely on that. So it's not about the last thing that needs addressing.
Tannehill before Landry Jones? Any reason why Jones is not in the first round?
:shrug: No particular reason. Flip a coin between them.
Can he rush the passer? Thats the absolute biggest thing that Buffalo needs. Pressure. As for my favorite team, Dallas. CB is a huge need obviously with Newman badly fading. Everything that I'm reading, however, is that CB is one of the deepest positions in the draft and quality guys can be had in the 2nd and 3rd. Plus, I'm not sure that Jenkins is a Garrett "Right Kind of Guy". I actually think that the key to the Dallas draft will be what they chose to do with Spencer. If they don't resign him, then OLB beoomes the top priority. IF the do, then it opens up a whole host of positions, including DL, OG/C, CB and S. But again, the CB depth of this draft class likely has them passing that spot in the first.
Buffalo is also 25th against the run. They need both run support and a pass rush.Dallas is one of the hardest teams to figure out. Jones is the new Al Davis with some of the crazy ideas he has about who to draft where. If you don't like Jenkins, then just flip him and Dennard in this mock.
 
Seattle is starting Tarvaris Jackson and Charlie Whitehurst. Their o'line is bottom 5 in sacks given up and bottom 2 in QB hits. Even if they could use an upgrade (and a healthy Rice), I think you're going to have a hard time convincing anyone that the WR's are the biggest reason for their offensive woes.

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I like the pick for the Texans. They could use upgrades at some other spots like NT or DB, but a WR2 with WR1 upside to maybe take over for Andre someday is probably the only glaring need on the squad at the moment. In recent years the Texans have always trumpted "best available" but almost always drafted for need. This will be the lowest they've ever picked and the first time there aren't major holes that need to be filled so they may finally go BPA for once. They also need depth on both lines and possibly another OLB if Mario leaves as well.

 
Seattle is starting Tarvaris Jackson and Charlie Whitehurst. Their o'line is bottom 5 in sacks given up and bottom 2 in QB hits. Even if they could use an upgrade (and a healthy Rice), I think you're going to have a hard time convincing anyone that the WR's are the biggest reason for their offensive woes.
I didn't say WR was their biggest problem.
I like the pick for the Texans. They could use upgrades at some other spots like NT or DB, but a WR2 with WR1 upside to maybe take over for Andre someday is probably the only glaring need on the squad at the moment. In recent years the Texans have always trumpted "best available" but almost always drafted for need. This will be the lowest they've ever picked and the first time there aren't major holes that need to be filled so they may finally go BPA for once. They also need depth on both lines and possibly another OLB if Mario leaves as well.
Plus, Andre Johnson isn't getting any younger. This situation is kind of a Harrison/Wayne in Indy redux.
 

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