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****The 2019 Carolina Panthers Thread**** We Rhule At Losing (3 Viewers)
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meanjoegreen
Footballguy
Hardy turned out to be a great 6th rounder. They got Captain Munnerlyn in the 7th round.
pantherclub
Footballguy
no doubt. There was zero chance the panthers would let him walk.Slapdash said:
Englishteacher
Footballguy
Don't worry. All our problems are solved.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts/charles-davis/190603
You have to see this pick to believe it.
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http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts/charles-davis/190603
You have to see this pick to believe it.
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NCCommish
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Englishteacher
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The Commish
Footballguy
pantherclub
Footballguy
To hurneys credit he was pretty money in the first round, beyond that........well you know the rest of that story.Maybe this guy doesn't know Hurney's gone??
The Nicks discussions on the last page makes me worried. I don't care how bad Eli is, Nicks is done. I had him in a keeper league as a rookie and he was awesome, but that used to be a #1 WR is not there anymore. While he has been "injured", he still only missed 4 games that past two years. In those 28 games, he has 3 TDs. I remember the pre-season hype that he would be a great value now that he is healthy. I watched him in the pre-season and saw a guy who couldn't separate and just didn't look good. He didn't disappoint.
I really hope they don't spend the money on him. I just don't think he has it. Maybe I am wrong, but I'd rather see them sign someone like Veldheer as FA and pick one of the potentially explosive 1st round WRs. I think that is a huge difference than say Nicks and one of the question mark tackles. Seems like you could go from 2 aces to 7 deuce.
I really hope they don't spend the money on him. I just don't think he has it. Maybe I am wrong, but I'd rather see them sign someone like Veldheer as FA and pick one of the potentially explosive 1st round WRs. I think that is a huge difference than say Nicks and one of the question mark tackles. Seems like you could go from 2 aces to 7 deuce.
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pantherclub
Footballguy
They will not sign Nicks due to a ton of reasons. So no worries there.
NCCommish
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NCCommish
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NCCommish
Footballguy
So apparently we are having OT Billy Turner from North Dakota State in for a visit. He isn't considered one of the top guys but figures to be a second rounder. At 6'5" and 315 he has the size. The consensus seems to be better guard than tackle in the NFL. Still he started 44 games at left tackle and won a lot of awards doing it in college. His problems all seem to be technique so if he is coachable dude could be a pro bowl player.
pantherclub
Footballguy
I wouldnt say there is no way that it happens probably in the 99.9% range that it doesnt. Way too many reasons why this isnt going to work with the number 1 being money. We cannot pay him anything remotely close to what he thinks he is worth. Sidney Rice, James Jones would be more logical. I would love to get JJ in here.
NCCommish
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NCCommish
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They have too many running backs now. We need a real wideout much more than we need any more defense with the exception of DBs. My guess is first round will be a WR or CB depending on who falls. All the first round OL will be gone by 28. Second round there will be a ton of take a chance OL left. They will likely grab at least one there. Probably another in the 3rd or 4th. I find it unlikely at best that they will draft an RB unless it is very late and nothing else is on the board.
Yeah, but no great Running Back to help support your Defense. You've got to bring in another body and cut Jonathan Stewart if he's not ready do play. With your defense, Cam can win you games by himself. But with an even better defense and a stud, bruising back, this can be a Championship team.
Edit: Imagine Eddie Lacy on this team.
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NCCommish
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We have a bruising back in Tolbert. And cutting Stewart wouldn't get us any cap relief. IIRC it would actually cost us money to cut him. This team will not be spending a high draft pick on an RB.
NCCommish
Footballguy
So latest rumor is Smitty on the trading block. If that is reality at this point in time that usually means the player is getting cut and the team is trying for a hail mary to at least get something. No one is doing a trade with his salary. If the Panthers cut him Gettleman better be damn sure he has a sure fire, no miss, plan at wideout or this could make for a swift exit for our new GM. JR is letting him run the team right now but cut Smitty, a guy JR has great personal like for, and then the team struggles? Not sure all will be happy time in Pantherland.
omally
Footballguy
I hope Smith isn't cut. I noticed his jerseys aren't available on the team site. Maybe they sold out. It has been said that Smith is learning about his future via the media instead of via the organization. If true, that is a disrespectful way to do business. I'm surprised the big cat would be OK with that. Whatever the future holds, I hope Smith retires a Panther.
NCCommish
Footballguy
That is because he was in the process of changing his name to Smith Sr and it was going to be reflected on this seasons jerseys.
The Commish
Footballguy
Yeah. Not liking the writing on the wall for Smitty. As a fan it's very unfortunate. The bright side is, it appears that Jerry is letting go of the calls and letting the GM do his thing. There's no way this happens if Jerry's still calling the shots. Still sucks to lose a guy like Smitty. Seems like they could keep him for just one more year. Don't understand what is to be gained by cutting now...but we don't know the plan. Hope it works out.
pantherclub
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The guys at Cat scratch reader seem to indicate that this means the Panthers have a FA lined up (Nicks maybe?) and Smiths presence in the looker room is hindering development of some players. Not sure if I agree but this is what some of the rumor/logic that is going around.
NCCommish
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NCCommish
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I keep hearing the locker room thing and Smith may be greedy for the ball. But Smith has practically begged the team to get some help out at wideout and move him to the slot for two years. It's all about money IMO.
The Commish
Footballguy
I can't say I blame him. He's been saying for 2 - 3 years now he'd be happy moving to #2 or the slot and they've essentially ignored him. I'd be annoyed with the organization too. I also get that Gettleman wasn't part of those decisions too. Just a bad situation all around.
NCCommish
Footballguy
Yeah I don't blame him. Especially when you look at the guys mentioned to come in and replace him. He not only had a better season last season but a better career overall. Playing with some of the crappiest QBs in the NFL and making them look good. He earned that contract and he has every right to expect to play it out.
I'm not sure, but my impression is that many veterans have taken restructured salaries recently for Carolina. Not unreasonable to expect a 35 year old "leader" to take a pay cut.
That said, it seems like a bad move that Smith found out about all of this through the media. It is an even worse sign that he has spent the last week responding through the media.
NCCommish
Footballguy
Not saying I wouldn't ask as the GM. I'm saying as a fan I don't have a problem with him not taking a cut. Especially when I look at them paying Nicks the same money if he gets what he wants. Smith is still better than Nicks IMO.
stratocatter
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Granted a lot of this is Hurney reaching out from the grave with the insane contracts but this is wrong. All of this "status quo isn't good enough" is fine, if you improve. I don't see a way this improves our WR corps. So wtf Dave? I was very happy with this guy as GM but now, not very happy at all. This is just freaking arrogant, and stupid.
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The Commish
Footballguy
His current contract is a result of restructure from 2012. Yeah....a GM can ask and I don't really fault him for asking, but at some point enough is enough. He's thrown a good amount of "faith" towards the Panthers. It's not unreasonable for him to expect at least some courtesy in return.
NCCommish
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NCCommish
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Mitchell lost to the Steelers. I wanted him back a hell of a lot more than one of the worst RTs in the league. But good for Mike he took his one year show me deal and showed out. Be interesting to see how he does behind a less than elite front. Between actually signing Bell, the Smith fiasco and this I don't think our GM is having his best week.
NCCommish
Footballguy
Neither is Nicks and supposedly that is the range he is looking for. If Smith has totally outplayed him for the last two years and "is in decline" what does that say about Nicks?
pantherclub
Footballguy
There may be a slight chance that Nicks signs for far less based on the hometown element of it but I still dont see that happening. if they are going to pay for someone I hope they get james jones and maybe pair him with Sid Rice. Rice should be dirt cheap. If we sign a wr that clears up a lot of what we do at the top of the draft
meanjoegreen
Footballguy
Sidney Rice is injured more than Nicks, and hasn't really had more than a couple good seasons.
pantherclub
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
Cupboards are absolutely bare at this point. Excluding Smith, there isn't a WR on this roster that has an NFL catch. Rumblings that Hicks' folks have been in touch with the Panthers. I wouldn't take him unless I could get him for half what Smitty was taking. No interest in Rice if he can't stay healthy. Who cares if they can get him cheap if he never plays? Also rumblings that Smitty would be headed to Baltimore if he is actually cut. I guess that's good. Last thing I wanted to see was him in the division abusing the secondary.
NCCommish
Footballguy
Well we do have Godfrey and he was on the upswing prior to the injury. They will likely try to rework him now rather than cut him for the cap space.
NCCommish
Footballguy
I was surprised to hear LaFell was getting an interview from New England. Of course he did have one of his better games against them.
The Commish
Footballguy
We'll see....I'm not sold on the guy.NCCommish said:
NCCommish
Footballguy
Mitchell certainly set a bar and it will be interesting to see if Godfrey can get there.
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