*** The 8-8 San Francisco 49ers - Let's forget 2014 thread *** (1 Viewer)

[drummer]

BTW, if you're gonna blame anybody, go over and give Kawakami hell. He's the one who jinxed them. Along with said parking lot.

Meanwhile, check your Twitter for more Jed York goodness!

 

[chinawildman]

If there is any shred of optimism it's that they started 1-2 last year looking arguably worse than they do this year... This team just seems to think the game's over at halftime. They are not as bad as they look, just playing extremely undisciplined ball.

The 5 wr spread offense needs to go though, there's no reason kaep should be outrushing all our RBs combined.

 

[Ladsud]

Does this team have no running back worthy to carry the ball?

 

[5Rings]

so..... i do not believe that there is a conspiracy going on. are the 49ers this undisciplined this year or are they getting hosed? seems like the defense starts off very strong then, what- gets tired and sloppy by giving up bad 3rd and long penalties that prolong drives? almost lost to dallas in similar fashion.

I want to say the refs killed us the last two weeks, reminiscent of any visit to Seattle. However, the team is undisciplined and Play like the raiders. Why is culliver talking smack after a seven yard run while losing? Perhaps the rumors that harbaugh lost the locker room are true. I give Jim a big fat F right now.

Sad..the team just ain't that good...yet. I still think we could be. I like no huddle and spreading out. I don't like havin Kaep be our primary ball carrier...and I'd like to see a pass over 7 yards downfield. A screen would have been nice too vs the constant blitzing.

Just ugly.

 

[Paulymaggs]

Just started following Kawakami on twitter..... and man, what did the org do to piss this guy off.

Never seen a beat writer tee off on their covering team like this before.... even though to a casual observer it's easy to tell everything he's saying about Kaep, York, and Baalke are mostly true.

 

[Spin]

so..... i do not believe that there is a conspiracy going on. are the 49ers this undisciplined this year or are they getting hosed? seems like the defense starts off very strong then, what- gets tired and sloppy by giving up bad 3rd and long penalties that prolong drives? almost lost to dallas in similar fashion.

I want to say the refs killed us the last two weeks, reminiscent of any visit to Seattle. However, the team is undisciplined and Play like the raiders. Why is culliver talking smack after a seven yard run while losing? Perhaps the rumors that harbaugh lost the locker room are true. I give Jim a big fat F right now.

Sad..the team just ain't that good...yet. I still think we could be. I like no huddle and spreading out. I don't like havin Kaep be our primary ball carrier...and I'd like to see a pass over 7 yards downfield. A screen would have been nice too vs the constant blitzing.

Just ugly.

My thoughts exactly. Anytime it's a 3rd and long I expect the flag for a first down. It's easy to blame the refs, and some of these calls are ridiculous, but at some point we gotta just get off the field.

 

[thecatch]

If there is any shred of optimism it's that they started 1-2 last year looking arguably worse than they do this year... This team just seems to think the game's over at halftime. They are not as bad as they look, just playing extremely undisciplined ball.

The 5 wr spread offense needs to go though, there's no reason kaep should be outrushing all our RBs combined.

The teams they lost to last year were much better. This is a much bigger problem.

As for causes, the offense is stale. Roman doesn't have a feel for the passing game as a ground and pound guy. If we want to run 4 WR out there and let Kaep develop, I think we need some new blood in there with some idea how to craft a modern aerial attack.

I also think these guys are weary and unfocused. You could blame Harbaugh but I think it more human nature after scaling the mountain so many times and being kicked off at the top. This also dovetails with my point above - this coaching staff has remained almost 100% intact with no turnover at the coordinator spots for the last four years. They need some fresh faces.

I wouldn't unload Harbaugh though. Great coaches are tough to find. They need to try and make it work even if they have a down season. The grass is always greener mentality led to the firing of Mooch and not coincidentally the Niners decade of futility in the 2000s. And at Harbaugh's ego being the problem - how many games has Gabbert cost us this season?

 

[chinawildman]

If there is any shred of optimism it's that they started 1-2 last year looking arguably worse than they do this year... This team just seems to think the game's over at halftime. They are not as bad as they look, just playing extremely undisciplined ball.

The 5 wr spread offense needs to go though, there's no reason kaep should be outrushing all our RBs combined.

The teams they lost to last year were much better. This is a much bigger problem.

As for causes, the offense is stale. Roman doesn't have a feel for the passing game as a ground and pound guy. If we want to run 4 WR out there and let Kaep develop, I think we need some new blood in there with some idea how to craft a modern aerial attack.

I also think these guys are weary and unfocused. You could blame Harbaugh but I think it more human nature after scaling the mountain so many times and being kicked off at the top. This also dovetails with my point above - this coaching staff has remained almost 100% intact with no turnover at the coordinator spots for the last four years. They need some fresh faces.

I wouldn't unload Harbaugh though. Great coaches are tough to find. They need to try and make it work even if they have a down season. The grass is always greener mentality led to the firing of Mooch and not coincidentally the Niners decade of futility in the 2000s. And at Harbaugh's ego being the problem - how many games has Gabbert cost us this season?

I would say the problem stems beyond simply game planning and Roman, but I do agree focus has a great deal to do with it.

Going back to last year's NFC Championship game, the niners have been playing great ball in the 1st half, only to come out flat in the 2nd half thinking the game is won. This is a complete 180 from the superbowl run the year before where the niners usually dig themselves and early hole, only to come roaring back to win the game.

The coaching staff appears to know how to put together a game plan, unfortunately it's only for one half.

 

[Spin]

If there is any shred of optimism it's that they started 1-2 last year looking arguably worse than they do this year... This team just seems to think the game's over at halftime. They are not as bad as they look, just playing extremely undisciplined ball.

The 5 wr spread offense needs to go though, there's no reason kaep should be outrushing all our RBs combined.

The teams they lost to last year were much better. This is a much bigger problem.

As for causes, the offense is stale. Roman doesn't have a feel for the passing game as a ground and pound guy. If we want to run 4 WR out there and let Kaep develop, I think we need some new blood in there with some idea how to craft a modern aerial attack.

I also think these guys are weary and unfocused. You could blame Harbaugh but I think it more human nature after scaling the mountain so many times and being kicked off at the top. This also dovetails with my point above - this coaching staff has remained almost 100% intact with no turnover at the coordinator spots for the last four years. They need some fresh faces.

I wouldn't unload Harbaugh though. Great coaches are tough to find. They need to try and make it work even if they have a down season. The grass is always greener mentality led to the firing of Mooch and not coincidentally the Niners decade of futility in the 2000s. And at Harbaugh's ego being the problem - how many games has Gabbert cost us this season?

I would say the problem stems beyond simply game planning and Roman, but I do agree focus has a great deal to do with it.

Going back to last year's NFC Championship game, the niners have been playing great ball in the 1st half, only to come out flat in the 2nd half thinking the game is won. This is a complete 180 from the superbowl run the year before where the niners usually dig themselves and early hole, only to come roaring back to win the game.

The coaching staff appears to know how to put together a game plan, unfortunately it's only for one half.

Agree. I dunno if it's lack of halftime adjustments or what. But these last two games have been some of the most frustrating games to watch. I don't remember games where the Niners looked so much in control and dominate in the 1st half only to have a complete meltdown in the 2nd half.

 

[thecatch]

If there is any shred of optimism it's that they started 1-2 last year looking arguably worse than they do this year... This team just seems to think the game's over at halftime. They are not as bad as they look, just playing extremely undisciplined ball.

The 5 wr spread offense needs to go though, there's no reason kaep should be outrushing all our RBs combined.

The teams they lost to last year were much better. This is a much bigger problem.As for causes, the offense is stale. Roman doesn't have a feel for the passing game as a ground and pound guy. If we want to run 4 WR out there and let Kaep develop, I think we need some new blood in there with some idea how to craft a modern aerial attack.

I also think these guys are weary and unfocused. You could blame Harbaugh but I think it more human nature after scaling the mountain so many times and being kicked off at the top. This also dovetails with my point above - this coaching staff has remained almost 100% intact with no turnover at the coordinator spots for the last four years. They need some fresh faces.

I wouldn't unload Harbaugh though. Great coaches are tough to find. They need to try and make it work even if they have a down season. The grass is always greener mentality led to the firing of Mooch and not coincidentally the Niners decade of futility in the 2000s. And at Harbaugh's ego being the problem - how many games has Gabbert cost us this season?

I would say the problem stems beyond simply game planning and Roman, but I do agree focus has a great deal to do with it.

Going back to last year's NFC Championship game, the niners have been playing great ball in the 1st half, only to come out flat in the 2nd half thinking the game is won. This is a complete 180 from the superbowl run the year before where the niners usually dig themselves and early hole, only to come roaring back to win the game.

The coaching staff appears to know how to put together a game plan, unfortunately it's only for one half.

To be clear, I don't think Roman is a bad OC. But he's got 4 years of tape with most of the same key players to scout from. He brought some innovative features to the running game that the league has long since caught up with. Just think they need an infusion of new ideas (I think Harbaugh knows that too which is why he lobbied for Roman to move up and out to a HC job somewhere else). And while Kaepernick had a decent game yesterday, I really don't see a ton of progress from him like I'd expect with someone of his tools and work ethic. Easier to try a new play caller than it is to replace the QB.

 

[kface]

I also think a great D has masked some of these problems. The 49ers D to start the season is average at best. There is no depth on the dline, the lbs are depleted and the cbs are maybe middle of the pack.

 

[ImTheScientist]

 

[chinawildman]

That is how i feel about the niners right now as well. Surprising that we agree on something...

 

[thecatch]

I also think a great D has masked some of these problems. The 49ers D to start the season is average at best. There is no depth on the dline, the lbs are depleted and the cbs are maybe middle of the pack.

Carradine has been really disappointing. He can't even get on the active roster over replacement level guys like Jerod-Eddie and Dobbs?

 

[chinawildman]

I also think a great D has masked some of these problems. The 49ers D to start the season is average at best. There is no depth on the dline, the lbs are depleted and the cbs are maybe middle of the pack.

Carradine has been really disappointing. He can't even get on the active roster over replacement level guys like Jerod-Eddie and Dobbs?

Not really sure why they're holding him back, he looked pretty darn good in preseason.

 

[kface]

I also think a great D has masked some of these problems. The 49ers D to start the season is average at best. There is no depth on the dline, the lbs are depleted and the cbs are maybe middle of the pack.

Carradine has been really disappointing. He can't even get on the active roster over replacement level guys like Jerod-Eddie and Dobbs?

Not really sure why they're holding him back, he looked pretty darn good in preseas

I think they need to stop taking flyers on guys that get red shirted their first year in the nfl. Until Harbough I could bring up very few examples of this every happening

 

[Wingnut]

Not blaming the woes on this, but Vernon needs to get back in there this week. He's as valuable to Kaep as Graham is to Brees.

 

[drummer]

Just take the keys to personnel decisions away from Baalke. Problem solved.

 

[drummer]

Meanwhile, how do you run a passing offense with no deep threats, outside of Davis? My buddy said it best: the best deep threat they have is Kaep running.

Lol, Roman must have found Jimmy Raye's spread offense playbooks he left behind.

 

[drummer]

Lol, The South Bay: where teams go to choke (see: San Jose Sharks).

 

[drummer]

With rookie drafts going on, I wanted to throw my thoughts on Hyde out there and see if my fellow Niner fans agree.

In the past 4 drafts, we have spent a 4 (Kendall Hunter), 2 (LM James), 4 (Lattimore), and 2 (Hyde) on RBs. This is an awful lot of assets to spend on the RB position. The fact that Anthony Dixon even got a carry last year is--to me--an indictment of the crew as a whole. It very well could be that players have not panned out as expected (LMJ), but I think it is fair to say that nobody has really been provided a substantial opportunity to play due to Gore's success and longevity.

To me, Lattimore was a BPA selection that was to be the heir apparent to Frank if he could come back healthy. Hyde's selection--along with Lattimore's recent comments on his lack of burst--tell me that the team is no longer planning on Marcus being the heir.

I think Hyde will have opportunity sooner rather than later--and Rathman will get him pass blocking in camp, no doubt. I have Hyde ranked above Sankey and after my elite 3 WRs (Sammy / Evans / Cooks).

Although I think Hyde has the upside to change the offense as a dynamic, classic 49er WCO RB ala Craig/Watters/Garner/Hearst, I believe Kaep will have more rushing yards this season than Hyde will. One reason could be the 49ers still don't have a dominant WR. They lack overall speed on offense, especially at WR. Stevie Johnson had a reception that had his biggest YAC, but he should had 6 the last game on that play. He's a possesion guy at best. How are you going to spread an offense with a bunch of possesion recievers who lack speed, with Kaep's slow reads? If Hyde was that target on that play, he could have had 6.

Hyde needs to get more catches out of the backfield. Even though I joke about how Roman may have Raye's old spread offense, he really should use that page of "all go, run in a straight line" spread so Kaep can dump off to Hyde. The thing is, they have no speed at WR. That offense is as slow as molasses. Which means only more carries for Gore, since he has more experience in caveman pancake offenses.

I bet Marathe's errrrr Baalke's scouting team is looking at which NCAA player is most likely to tear an ACL. A torn ACL automatically puts him on the draft board.

 

[drummer]

I also think a great D has masked some of these problems. The 49ers D to start the season is average at best. There is no depth on the dline, the lbs are depleted and the cbs are maybe middle of the pack.

Carradine has been really disappointing. He can't even get on the active roster over replacement level guys like Jerod-Eddie and Dobbs?

He isn't dissapointing. People think Baalke is genius. That's on them.

 

[drummer]

Well, I trolled enough chum for efactor bait. This is The Shark Pool. Minus Yardage Hunter aside.

 

[Spin]

Eh, call me an optimist, but I've watched a lot of bad 49er teams. And this team isn't one of them. They're just not performing to the level of the last few years. And they really are, just only for half a game.

 

[chinawildman]

Eh, call me an optimist, but I've watched a lot of bad 49er teams. And this team isn't one of them. They're just not performing to the level of the last few years. And they really are, just only for half a game.

Seems that Vegas agrees. The 1-2 Niners are almost 6 pt favorites against the undefeated Eagles at home. Gotta say I'm surprised considering how vulnerable our defense has looked.

 

[5Rings]

I also think a great D has masked some of these problems. The 49ers D to start the season is average at best. There is no depth on the dline, the lbs are depleted and the cbs are maybe middle of the pack.

Carradine has been really disappointing. He can't even get on the active roster over replacement level guys like Jerod-Eddie and Dobbs?

Not really sure why they're holding him back, he looked pretty darn good in preseason.

Play book. Dude is not smart.

 

[drummer]

Eh, call me an optimist, but I've watched a lot of bad 49er teams. And this team isn't one of them. They're just not performing to the level of the last few years. And they really are, just only for half a game.

Seems that Vegas agrees. The 1-2 Niners are almost 6 pt favorites against the undefeated Eagles at home. Gotta say I'm surprised considering how vulnerable our defense has looked.

What, no Oregon vs. Stanford angle?

 

[drummer]

Eh, call me an optimist, but I've watched a lot of bad 49er teams. And this team isn't one of them. They're just not performing to the level of the last few years. And they really are, just only for half a game.

I knew the passing offense wouldn't be great, but I didn't think it would flat out stink like it has.

 

[thecatch]

Eh, call me an optimist, but I've watched a lot of bad 49er teams. And this team isn't one of them. They're just not performing to the level of the last few years. And they really are, just only for half a game.

Seems that Vegas agrees. The 1-2 Niners are almost 6 pt favorites against the undefeated Eagles at home. Gotta say I'm surprised considering how vulnerable our defense has looked.

I wouldn't be worried if the Seahawks weren't in the division, frankly, but the Niners didn't have any margin for error this year.

 

[Wingnut]

Eh, call me an optimist, but I've watched a lot of bad 49er teams. And this team isn't one of them. They're just not performing to the level of the last few years. And they really are, just only for half a game.

Seems that Vegas agrees. The 1-2 Niners are almost 6 pt favorites against the undefeated Eagles at home. Gotta say I'm surprised considering how vulnerable our defense has looked.

:vegashasit:

 

[thecatch]

They still arent sharp at all. They dominated that game and still had to squeak out a nail biter because of a ton of dumb plays. So uncharacteristic.

Aaron Lynch looks like a great pick.

 

[fantasycurse42]

They still arent sharp at all. They dominated that game and still had to squeak out a nail biter because of a ton of dumb plays. So uncharacteristic.

Aaron Lynch looks like a great pick.

Agree...

Also, JH might be the worst coach when it comes to challenges ever!

 

[thecatch]

They still arent sharp at all. They dominated that game and still had to squeak out a nail biter because of a ton of dumb plays. So uncharacteristic.

Aaron Lynch looks like a great pick.

Agree...

Also, JH might be the worst coach when it comes to challenges ever!

Indeed.

 

[JetMaxx]

As great as he is athletically, it must suck to know that Kaep is mentally incapable of what it takes to win it all.

 

[Wingnut]

While trolls know how to post on internet message boards, it must suck for them to know they are mentally incapable of winning at life.

 

[Wingnut]

I take that back...it doesn't suck for them because they don't even realize they suck at life.

Kaep had a better wonderlic score than Rodgers, Brady, P Manning, Brees, Roethlisberger, Flacco, R Wilson, and JetMaxx's boy Foles, but yet he doesn't have the mental capacity to win it all.

http://basketfootball.com/wonderlic-scores-for-every-nfl-teams-starting-qb/



Now go home, troll.

 

[5Rings]

As great as he is athletically, it must suck to know that Kaep is mentally incapable of what it takes to win it all.

I've been a Kap apologist.....but he made some really stupid plays today. He was responsible for the field position on the blocked punt as well as the pick 6. Even more mind numbing was stepping out of bounds for a loss and taking a sack instead of throwing the ball away. Worried about stats?

My biggest concern through 4 is that we are not seeing the progression I was expecting in reading the D.

Boone is lucky he already got paid. He played like ####.

Brooks is a shell of last year too.

 

[5Rings]

Just read the game thread. Boy iggle fans are dumb.

 

[Wingnut]

The whole team is playing out of character...I'm just glad we got a win today, hopefully they'll snap out of the funk they've been in.

At least we stopped the Philly offense that had been running roughshod over the other teams they've played.

Eagles = overrated

 

[JetMaxx]

I take that back...it doesn't suck for them because they don't even realize they suck at life.

Kaep had a better wonderlic score than Rodgers, Brady, P Manning, Brees, Roethlisberger, Flacco, R Wilson, and JetMaxx's boy Foles, but yet he doesn't have the mental capacity to win it all.

http://basketfootball.com/wonderlic-scores-for-every-nfl-teams-starting-qb/



Now go home, troll.

@ quoting Wonderlic scores. Fitzpatrick didn't come up in your wiki search? Did you watch the game?

 

[Wingnut]

I take that back...it doesn't suck for them because they don't even realize they suck at life.

Kaep had a better wonderlic score than Rodgers, Brady, P Manning, Brees, Roethlisberger, Flacco, R Wilson, and JetMaxx's boy Foles, but yet he doesn't have the mental capacity to win it all.

http://basketfootball.com/wonderlic-scores-for-every-nfl-teams-starting-qb/



Now go home, troll.

@ quoting Wonderlic scores. Fitzpatrick didn't come up in your wiki search? Did you watch the game?

You brought up mental capacity here, and the wonderlic is a pretty good indicator of intelligence. Don't be a dumb ****, just tuck your tail between your legs and whimper on home, boy.

 

[JetMaxx]

I take that back...it doesn't suck for them because they don't even realize they suck at life.

Kaep had a better wonderlic score than Rodgers, Brady, P Manning, Brees, Roethlisberger, Flacco, R Wilson, and JetMaxx's boy Foles, but yet he doesn't have the mental capacity to win it all.http://basketfootball.com/wonderlic-scores-for-every-nfl-teams-starting-qb/



Now go home, troll.

@ quoting Wonderlic scores. Fitzpatrick didn't come up in your wiki search? Did you watch the game?

You brought up mental capacity here, and the wonderlic is a pretty good indicator of intelligence. Don't be a dumb ****, just tuck your tail between your legs and whimper on home, boy.

The name calling indicates an insecurity. Enjoy your Harbaugh/Kaep combo.

 

[chinawildman]

I don't know what it is, but Kaepernick is especially grueling to watch this season. Things I can't stand:

1) He runs the play clock down to 0 on 95% of all plays, while standing there yelling "red 80 HAAAAAT"... what's the point of trying to slow down the pass rush with hard counts if the defense knows they're going to snap it with 1 second left when he says "hurry hurry HAAAT". He just needs to call out the signals faster... possibly the worst hard count in football right now.

2) 2 delay of games in your home stadium is terrible. There's no excuse for that.

3) I dunno if the read/options are predetermined as to who will get the ball, but he's made some pretty bad reads and kept the ball when he should've handed off, and vice versa.

4) His passes on his primary reads are usually great. But his checkdown passes are just brutally inaccurate from the pocket.

The guy can go from Steve Young to Druckenmiller and back in the span of one set of downs... if he can't up his consistency level this season, I think it's time SF starts looking for another QB in next year's draft.

 

[chinawildman]

After rewatching the game wanted to glean some positives from the game:

1) In spite of everything stacked against them and the talk of the Eagles being a 2nd half team and the niners' recent track record, they came back which showed that this team still has much resolve left. Very relieving to see this defense show up when they were needed the most.

2) Harbaugh's ego may be huge, but not big enough to realize he needed to scrap the empty backfield shotgun plays for more traditional running plays. That IMO made the difference in the 2nd half. This O line plays better when they're given the chance to physically impose their will once in awhile.

3) Perrish Cox is looking like 2011 Carlos Rogers. The job he did as slot corner in Rogers's absence last season is the kind of play we can hope to get from Ward eventually. I had no idea why they elected to waive him before as I've always felt he's played well when given the chance. Glad they were able to get him back.

4) Aaron Lynch is a baller. There are many facets of his game that remind me of Aldon Smith (character concerns notwithstanding). He's starting to look like a steal for them in the 5th round.

5) As excited as I am about Carlos Hyde, Gore is still the better RB. His craftiness when picking through lineman is something to behold when he's on top of his game. Is it just me or are they mostly working Hyde in as a third down back of sorts? That's something you don't see... the vet playing the early downs and the rookie on passing downs.

6) No personal fouls. 'nuff said.

 

[Spin]

I don't know what it is, but Kaepernick is especially grueling to watch this season. Things I can't stand:

1) He runs the play clock down to 0 on 95% of all plays, while standing there yelling "red 80 HAAAAAT"... what's the point of trying to slow down the pass rush with hard counts if the defense knows they're going to snap it with 1 second left when he says "hurry hurry HAAAT". He just needs to call out the signals faster... possibly the worst hard count in football right now.

2) 2 delay of games in your home stadium is terrible. There's no excuse for that.

3) I dunno if the read/options are predetermined as to who will get the ball, but he's made some pretty bad reads and kept the ball when he should've handed off, and vice versa.

4) His passes on his primary reads are usually great. But his checkdown passes are just brutally inaccurate from the pocket.

The guy can go from Steve Young to Druckenmiller and back in the span of one set of downs... if he can't up his consistency level this season, I think it's time SF starts looking for another QB in next year's draft.

This. That throw to Lloyd is likely a TD if he doesn't throw it behind him. Same with leading Crabtree too much, another missed TD there.

That throw to Vernon was insane though, but he couldn't hold on, tons of zip and right on the money, Vernon just wasn't able to pull it down. A couple other good throws stand out as well. Not many qbs can make that throw to Gore for the long TD. And was nice to see him connect with Crabtree for a longish pass down the sideline.

 

[Alonzo Mosely]

As great as he is athletically, it must suck to know that Kaep is mentally incapable of what it takes to win it all.

I've been a Kap apologist.....but he made some really stupid plays today. He was responsible for the field position on the blocked punt as well as the pick 6. Even more mind numbing was stepping out of bounds for a loss and taking a sack instead of throwing the ball away. Worried about stats?

My biggest concern through 4 is that we are not seeing the progression I was expecting in reading the D.

Boone is lucky he already got paid. He played like ####.

Brooks is a shell of last year too.

I thought the sack before the blocked punt was on Gore. Two guys came free off the left guard and he whiffed on both of them.

 

[Alonzo Mosely]

I don't know what it is, but Kaepernick is especially grueling to watch this season. Things I can't stand:

1) He runs the play clock down to 0 on 95% of all plays, while standing there yelling "red 80 HAAAAAT"... what's the point of trying to slow down the pass rush with hard counts if the defense knows they're going to snap it with 1 second left when he says "hurry hurry HAAAT". He just needs to call out the signals faster... possibly the worst hard count in football right now.

2) 2 delay of games in your home stadium is terrible. There's no excuse for that.

3) I dunno if the read/options are predetermined as to who will get the ball, but he's made some pretty bad reads and kept the ball when he should've handed off, and vice versa.

4) His passes on his primary reads are usually great. But his checkdown passes are just brutally inaccurate from the pocket.

The guy can go from Steve Young to Druckenmiller and back in the span of one set of downs... if he can't up his consistency level this season, I think it's time SF starts looking for another QB in next year's draft.

This. That throw to Lloyd is likely a TD if he doesn't throw it behind him. Same with leading Crabtree too much, another missed TD there.

That throw to Vernon was insane though, but he couldn't hold on, tons of zip and right on the money, Vernon just wasn't able to pull it down. A couple other good throws stand out as well. Not many qbs can make that throw to Gore for the long TD. And was nice to see him connect with Crabtree for a longish pass down the sideline.

He has no touch. Everything is a heater.

 

[thecatch]

I take that back...it doesn't suck for them because they don't even realize they suck at life.

Kaep had a better wonderlic score than Rodgers, Brady, P Manning, Brees, Roethlisberger, Flacco, R Wilson, and JetMaxx's boy Foles, but yet he doesn't have the mental capacity to win it all.

http://basketfootball.com/wonderlic-scores-for-every-nfl-teams-starting-qb/



Now go home, troll.

@ quoting Wonderlic scores. Fitzpatrick didn't come up in your wiki search? Did you watch the game?

You brought up mental capacity here, and the wonderlic is a pretty good indicator of intelligence. Don't be a dumb ****, just tuck your tail between your legs and whimper on home, boy.

Stop feeding him.

 

[thecatch]

As great as he is athletically, it must suck to know that Kaep is mentally incapable of what it takes to win it all.

I've been a Kap apologist.....but he made some really stupid plays today. He was responsible for the field position on the blocked punt as well as the pick 6. Even more mind numbing was stepping out of bounds for a loss and taking a sack instead of throwing the ball away. Worried about stats?My biggest concern through 4 is that we are not seeing the progression I was expecting in reading the D.

Boone is lucky he already got paid. He played like ####.

Brooks is a shell of last year too.

I thought the sack before the blocked punt was on Gore. Two guys came free off the left guard and he whiffed on both of them.

They came off the RG didn't they? Boone didn't pick up the right guy (the inside man). Looney >Boone.

 

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I don't know what it is, but Kaepernick is especially grueling to watch this season. Things I can't stand:

1) He runs the play clock down to 0 on 95% of all plays, while standing there yelling "red 80 HAAAAAT"... what's the point of trying to slow down the pass rush with hard counts if the defense knows they're going to snap it with 1 second left when he says "hurry hurry HAAAT". He just needs to call out the signals faster... possibly the worst hard count in football right now.

2) 2 delay of games in your home stadium is terrible. There's no excuse for that.

3) I dunno if the read/options are predetermined as to who will get the ball, but he's made some pretty bad reads and kept the ball when he should've handed off, and vice versa.

4) His passes on his primary reads are usually great. But his checkdown passes are just brutally inaccurate from the pocket.

The guy can go from Steve Young to Druckenmiller and back in the span of one set of downs... if he can't up his consistency level this season, I think it's time SF starts looking for another QB in next year's draft.

This. That throw to Lloyd is likely a TD if he doesn't throw it behind him. Same with leading Crabtree too much, another missed TD there.

That throw to Vernon was insane though, but he couldn't hold on, tons of zip and right on the money, Vernon just wasn't able to pull it down. A couple other good throws stand out as well. Not many qbs can make that throw to Gore for the long TD. And was nice to see him connect with Crabtree for a longish pass down the sideline.

Was telling someone yesterday that Kaep is good for a couple of amazing, take your breath away plays a game, and an equal number of terribly stupid ones. It's not good for my blood pressure.