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[NewlyRetired]

Questions for the comic book guys:If it is illegal to torrent a comic that is currently in print I have two questions1) Why is it not illegal to purchase a comic in print in the secondary market? (same could be said for DVD's, books, video games etc)2) Is it illegal to download/torrent older comics that are no longer in print?

1) i don't know, there's such a fine line on that stuff.. what's the real difference between borrowing something from teh library or getting it for free second hand from a friend and torrenting it? The "artist" receives no money from your secondary use in teh transaction... it's a real weird gray area.2) yes, because the argument is that they are still selling "re-issues" of those comics. I saw entire books of "Spider man 1-10, 11-20, and so on and barnes and noble" there must be some sort of "right" or license to it.However, I didn't know these existed, so I admit to torrenting these old comics simply because i figured there was no way for me to realistically acquire them anyway until i saw those books.

I agree on number 1. I don't quite get it but thank god for the secondary market else I don't think I could ever justify buying a full priced video game. As for number 2, are you saying that every comic ever made is still in print in one form or another? That shocks me.

 

[moleculo]

Comic books have probably never been more popular, particularly as they branch out into digital media. Starting in June this year, every major Marvel book will have a download code for a digital copy that can be read on computer and tablets. I personally love reading comics on the iPad, and they are starting to get more creative with content developed specifically for digital consumption. The quality of the writing and art is fairly broad an variable, which has always been the case.

Thanks, i didn't know that.I did assume they were available for consumption on digital format given that i've seen copies on the torrentz.I decided a few months ago to download all the old amazing spider man's.. 1 to like 500.I've been reading them on my computer... it's fun... I'm on issue 50ish.. Some issues are good, some suck...But I guess after reading those 60's spiderman's and then looking at a current one, the art is obviously a ton better, but the story line seemed just weird and lame... and then there's some new black spiderman? dumb.

man, I'd love to get a ton of old comic books in e-reader format. that sounds amazing. I never got into any of the traditional superhero comic books because there was so much back-story that I felt like I never knew who or what was going on.

 

[Dentist]

Comic books have probably never been more popular, particularly as they branch out into digital media. Starting in June this year, every major Marvel book will have a download code for a digital copy that can be read on computer and tablets. I personally love reading comics on the iPad, and they are starting to get more creative with content developed specifically for digital consumption. The quality of the writing and art is fairly broad an variable, which has always been the case.

Thanks, i didn't know that.I did assume they were available for consumption on digital format given that i've seen copies on the torrentz.I decided a few months ago to download all the old amazing spider man's.. 1 to like 500.I've been reading them on my computer... it's fun... I'm on issue 50ish.. Some issues are good, some suck...But I guess after reading those 60's spiderman's and then looking at a current one, the art is obviously a ton better, but the story line seemed just weird and lame... and then there's some new black spiderman? dumb.

man, I'd love to get a ton of old comic books in e-reader format. that sounds amazing. I never got into any of the traditional superhero comic books because there was so much back-story that I felt like I never knew who or what was going on.

well, depending on your level of morality they are available on teh community networks.I've found the old spiderman's to be pretty cool.but they all come in this weird proprietary format .cbz files that require a certain app to read them.currently i'm reading them on a laptop but i have a friend that wanted them that's using an i-phone/pad

 

[NewlyRetired]

Comic books have probably never been more popular, particularly as they branch out into digital media. Starting in June this year, every major Marvel book will have a download code for a digital copy that can be read on computer and tablets. I personally love reading comics on the iPad, and they are starting to get more creative with content developed specifically for digital consumption. The quality of the writing and art is fairly broad an variable, which has always been the case.

Thanks, i didn't know that.I did assume they were available for consumption on digital format given that i've seen copies on the torrentz.I decided a few months ago to download all the old amazing spider man's.. 1 to like 500.I've been reading them on my computer... it's fun... I'm on issue 50ish.. Some issues are good, some suck...But I guess after reading those 60's spiderman's and then looking at a current one, the art is obviously a ton better, but the story line seemed just weird and lame... and then there's some new black spiderman? dumb.

man, I'd love to get a ton of old comic books in e-reader format. that sounds amazing. I never got into any of the traditional superhero comic books because there was so much back-story that I felt like I never knew who or what was going on.

Depending on how you feel about torrenting/downloading, there is so much out there. People have pretty much archived almost anything you can think of. You should try out The Walking Dead to see if you like the format. We have a thread running here that has the issues all easily available with a simple download (no torrent)The iPad is near perfect for reading comics.

 

[Dentist]

As for number 2, are you saying that every comic ever made is still in print in one form or another? That shocks me.

no, i'm not saying that at all.I'm saying that i am guilty of using the community file networks to download like 500 spider-man's thinking that it was cool since the copyright had to be extremely expired, only to find them in print at barnes and noble later on.That being said, i would've never paid the price they were asking for those re-printed comics.

 

[Dentist]

You should try out The Walking Dead to see if you like the format. We have a thread running here that has the issues all easily available with a simple download (no torrent)

The iPad is near perfect for reading comics.

link?

 

[NewlyRetired]

Comic books have probably never been more popular, particularly as they branch out into digital media. Starting in June this year, every major Marvel book will have a download code for a digital copy that can be read on computer and tablets. I personally love reading comics on the iPad, and they are starting to get more creative with content developed specifically for digital consumption. The quality of the writing and art is fairly broad an variable, which has always been the case.

Thanks, i didn't know that.I did assume they were available for consumption on digital format given that i've seen copies on the torrentz.I decided a few months ago to download all the old amazing spider man's.. 1 to like 500.I've been reading them on my computer... it's fun... I'm on issue 50ish.. Some issues are good, some suck...But I guess after reading those 60's spiderman's and then looking at a current one, the art is obviously a ton better, but the story line seemed just weird and lame... and then there's some new black spiderman? dumb.

man, I'd love to get a ton of old comic books in e-reader format. that sounds amazing. I never got into any of the traditional superhero comic books because there was so much back-story that I felt like I never knew who or what was going on.

well, depending on your level of morality they are available on teh community networks.I've found the old spiderman's to be pretty cool.but they all come in this weird proprietary format .cbz files that require a certain app to read them.currently i'm reading them on a laptop but i have a friend that wanted them that's using an i-phone/pad

I don't know what you mean about weird. CBR/CBZ is the accepted methodology to archive comic books. All comic book readers accept this format. They look drop dead gorgeous on the iPad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_book_archive

 

[NewlyRetired]

You should try out The Walking Dead to see if you like the format. We have a thread running here that has the issues all easily available with a simple download (no torrent)

The iPad is near perfect for reading comics.

link?

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=631900

 

[Dentist]

I don't know what you mean about weird. CBR/CBZ is the accepted methodology to archive comic books. All comic book readers accept this format. They look drop dead gorgeous on the iPad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_book_archive

ok, well i'd never heard of that format before.the new ones are gorgeous, the old ones still look like crap (unless they've been "remastered" and i don't know about it")

 

[NewlyRetired]

As for number 2, are you saying that every comic ever made is still in print in one form or another? That shocks me.

no, i'm not saying that at all.I'm saying that i am guilty of using the community file networks to download like 500 spider-man's thinking that it was cool since the copyright had to be extremely expired, only to find them in print at barnes and noble later on.That being said, i would've never paid the price they were asking for those re-printed comics.

Ok so my question still stands. Is it illegal to torrent a comic that is not in print anymore (in any form)?

 

[NewlyRetired]

I don't know what you mean about weird. CBR/CBZ is the accepted methodology to archive comic books. All comic book readers accept this format. They look drop dead gorgeous on the iPad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_book_archive

ok, well i'd never heard of that format before.the new ones are gorgeous, the old ones still look like crap (unless they've been "remastered" and i don't know about it")

Quality depends on the quality of the scan. If you "look" around you can find series that have been redone to look better after download.

 

[Dentist]

Ok so my question still stands. Is it illegal to torrent a comic that is not in print anymore (in any form)?

I bet that it IS technically.But much like going 1 mph over the speed limit, there's not going to be anyone coming after you.

 

[moleculo]

looking it it, Marvel has an unlimited streaming deal for $5/month. That might be worth it - avoid that touchy morality/legality issue, and no need to learn how to torrent (yes, I'm behind the times).

 

[NewlyRetired]

looking it it, Marvel has an unlimited streaming deal for $5/month. That might be worth it - avoid that touchy morality/legality issue, and no need to learn how to torrent (yes, I'm behind the times).

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

looking it it, Marvel has an unlimited streaming deal for $5/month. That might be worth it - avoid that touchy morality/legality issue, and no need to learn how to torrent (yes, I'm behind the times).

Marvel is really just now getting a handle on their digital strategy. Marvel Digital Unlimited has been around for a while, but for obvious reasons they run well behind current issues. For a while you could buy new digital copies of stuff for your computer, for iOS, and for a Chrome browser plugin all separately and none of it synced. Then if you actually wanted the physical book itself, you'd still need to buy it too.

 

[The Dude]

Back on topic (kind of) - help me with my Masters of Evil for the sequel.

Hulk vs Wonder Man

Thor vs The Absorbing Man

Cap vs Zemo

I think those 3 cannot get much better.

Little stuck on Iron Man - maybe the Crimson Dynamo.

Hawkeye vs the Swordsman (if it could work)

Blank on Widow.

And as long as we are playing, add an Avenger and a foe - Black Panther vs Klaw

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Back on topic (kind of) - help me with my Masters of Evil for the sequel.Hulk vs Wonder ManThor vs The Absorbing ManCap vs ZemoI think those 3 cannot get much better.Little stuck on Iron Man - maybe the Crimson Dynamo.Hawkeye vs the Swordsman (if it could work)Blank on Widow.And as long as we are playing, add an Avenger and a foe - Black Panther vs Klaw

Cant have masters of Evil with the EnchantressThor vs Executioner.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Back on topic (kind of) - help me with my Masters of Evil for the sequel.Hulk vs Wonder ManThor vs The Absorbing ManCap vs ZemoI think those 3 cannot get much better.Little stuck on Iron Man - maybe the Crimson Dynamo.Hawkeye vs the Swordsman (if it could work)Blank on Widow.And as long as we are playing, add an Avenger and a foe - Black Panther vs Klaw

Cant have masters of Evil with the EnchantressThor vs Executioner.

Enchantress and Executioner have been very often mentioned as possible villains for Thor 2.

 

[netnalp]

It seems that powers are scaled back some in the movies although Thor is probably the most powerful single hero in the Marvel Universe that I can think of.

It's hard to quantify but prior to Thor getting the Odin power I would take Hulk in any throwdown. There just doesn't seem to be an upper limit to his strength. When he goes all "HULK SMASH!" he's pretty much unstoppable.

This was pretty much my take on the "who is the most unstoppable" question. I am in my 40's and thru the years I have never known any entity that defeats Hulk. That included Thor. And I am a huge fan of Thor. Hulk's strength is based on his anger. That's pure human emotion. There is no limit to emotion. Thus there is no limit to Hulk and his strength. But I love Thor and the whole brother against brother story.

I agree that Hulk probably beats Thor. I think Silver Surfer and Dr. Strange beat Hulk.

 

[Dentist]

I agree that Hulk probably beats Thor. I think Silver Surfer and Dr. Strange beat Hulk.

Probably.But Sentry and Franklin Richards may be even tougher than all 3 you mention

 

[netnalp]

It was a fun movie but suffered from a lot of the same issues as the Transformers movies. A great super hero movie needs an equally charismatic villain. Loki had his moments but, in the end, most of the fighting was against the mostly faceless, certainly personality-less alien reptile machines. And they're fighting over an energy source, just like in Transformers. The difference here is they were able to sprinkle some amusing moments into the long battle. So fun all around but not a great movie.

hater

I found Transformers 2 unwatchable. I hope Avengers isn't as bad as that movie. Thankfully the reviews lead me to believe it's a very good movie.

 

[Steed]

I agree that Hulk probably beats Thor. I think Silver Surfer and Dr. Strange beat Hulk.

Probably.But Sentry and Franklin Richards may be even tougher than all 3 you mention

I was a comic book geek and expressly remember some sort of classification system that measured their strengths. Hulk and Thor were right at the top with the ability to lift 100 tons, Iron Man was in the 80 ton range.

 

[netnalp]

very very good. marvel just knows what they are doing

I wish they still owned the rights to Spiderman and the X-Men. I'd love to see what they'd do with those.

who owns the right

Sony owns Spiderman's rights. The rights were about to expire and go back to Marvel, but they wanted to keep the rights so they made te new reboot Spiderman flick that's coming out this year. A little bush league, but smart on Sony's part. Imagine if during Avengers that Spidey would've swung into the battle out of nowhere. The theater would've GONE NUTS.

There is also a tie between Avengers and XMen in that Magneto's twin children are members of the Avengers at one point. I think Fox still owns the X-Men rights.

And Magneto's son-in-law is an Avenger too. Beast was an Avenger as well.

 

[NewlyRetired]

It was a fun movie but suffered from a lot of the same issues as the Transformers movies. A great super hero movie needs an equally charismatic villain. Loki had his moments but, in the end, most of the fighting was against the mostly faceless, certainly personality-less alien reptile machines. And they're fighting over an energy source, just like in Transformers. The difference here is they were able to sprinkle some amusing moments into the long battle. So fun all around but not a great movie.

hater

I found Transformers 2 unwatchable. I hope Avengers isn't as bad as that movie. Thankfully the reviews lead me to believe it's a very good movie.

Comparing Avengers to Transformers 2 is akin to comparing The Godfather to Mickey Blue Eyes.

 

[netnalp]

Avengers was really good, but it's not better than Dark Knight.

The movies should not be compared. One is fun and filled with humor and one is driven on darkness. I enjoyed them both but for extremely different reasons.

Yeah, totally different extremes of the same genre. Marvel has been purposeful in going with a lighter tone, and I think it serves this group of characters well. There are some Marvel characters that could have that same gritty pseudo-reality treatment that Nolan used so effectively in Dark Knight, but with Hulk, Thor and Iron Man it would be ridiculous.Both are great in their own way. Though I do have to say, for pure entertainment and joy, I'd probably watch Avengers 9 times out of 10 over Dark Knight. The other time I'd likely be drunk and pissed off about something.

The Frank Miller stories for Daredevil could provide Dark Knight-like grittiness. Iron Man too, or more so Tony Stark has a dark side to his story line, that hasn't been delved into much in the movies.

 

[netnalp]

Pleasantly surprised when I went tonight. I ended up seeing it in 3D cause I did not want to be there till eleven at night. A great character mix with each getting a decent amount of screen time. Whedon did a great job doing this movie.Why have Gweneth but no Portman? Rather see Portman. Hulk was well done and maybe the better character in this movie. Black Widow was well done and not sure if she needs a stand alone movie but Scarlett did a great job with her.Not sure of the back story of the new villain but do The Avengers only fight God like enemies? And, a cameo by Spider-Man would have been awesome to see. Maybe in a future one.

Usually they fight really powerful villains or teams of villains. I would be overkill to bring Thor and the Hulk in to break up a bank robbery.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Avengers was really good, but it's not better than Dark Knight.

The movies should not be compared. One is fun and filled with humor and one is driven on darkness. I enjoyed them both but for extremely different reasons.

Yeah, totally different extremes of the same genre. Marvel has been purposeful in going with a lighter tone, and I think it serves this group of characters well. There are some Marvel characters that could have that same gritty pseudo-reality treatment that Nolan used so effectively in Dark Knight, but with Hulk, Thor and Iron Man it would be ridiculous.Both are great in their own way. Though I do have to say, for pure entertainment and joy, I'd probably watch Avengers 9 times out of 10 over Dark Knight. The other time I'd likely be drunk and pissed off about something.

The Frank Miller stories for Daredevil could provide Dark Knight-like grittiness.

The Miller-penned "Born Again" storyline is supposedly serving as the basis for a Daredevil relaunch that is in development.

 

[netnalp]

With the huge success of The Avengers others can't be far behind . . .The Fantastic Four?The Defenders?what else we got out there?

Running joke in the comic books is how the Defenders never developed a strong following in the comics and the tile was shut down.I think we'll see Dr. Strange, maybe Silver Surfer. Secret Wars? Daredevil reboot, Powerman and Ironfist, Alpha Flight, Power Pack if they make one for the little kids.

 

[Mario Kart]

You know what would be kind of neat? A real dark Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles reboot. The first movie was alright but the next two sucked. Let's get on this.

Or, a Snorks movie.

 

[netnalp]

Spoiler

THANOS!!!! Loved the big purple guy's grin at the end. Although unlikely I wonder if they tie in the Infinity Gauntlet (even though he would be unstoppable). More likely is they tie in the Cosmic Cube.

I haven't re-watched the Thor movie but I've read it is shown in Odin's vault.

 

[NDyse10]

Spoiler

THANOS!!!! Loved the big purple guy's grin at the end. Although unlikely I wonder if they tie in the Infinity Gauntlet (even though he would be unstoppable). More likely is they tie in the Cosmic Cube.

I haven't re-watched the Thor movie but I've read it is shown in Odin's vault.Really? What part of the movie do people say its shown?ETA: Found it on the internet. Here it is for those that are interested:http://www.10mfh.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Thor-Movie-Infinity-Gauntlet-Hi-Res.png

 

[netnalp]

comic book movies are more popular than ever, but comic books themselves aren't as popular as they were in the early 90s. Print runs for titles back then like Jim Lee's X-Men #1, Todd McFarlane's Spiderman #1 were in the MILLIONS. today, the best selling comic is Batman (or JLA) and the print run is around 120,000.

It's why a comic released in 2003 like Walking Dead #1 is so expensive. The print run for that issue was less than 8,000.

print run/sales figures for comics here: http://www.comicschronicles.com/

Comics are dying, comic book movies are keeping them on life support.

Are these comic book movies drawing the young people or is it the 30+ crowd going to them and bringing their kids. Drawn by nostalgia and it's something from thier past that the kids will love?

 

[NewlyRetired]

You know what would be kind of neat? A real dark Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles reboot.

Ninja Turtles is being made for release in 2013. Whether it will be dark or not I have no idea. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1291150/

 

[netnalp]

But I think saying comics are dieing is going a bit overboard.

I'll just say this, as a lifelong comic book collector, and former comic book artist (Legend Comics back in early 90s), my view of the industry is different than yours...and I see the monthly books selling a lot less (120k compared to 4MM for print runs/sales). That's why I said comics are dying. It's unlikely they'll ever go away, but we've certainly seen the market slide in a big way. Now, back to shawarma !!!BTW, going to see it again this week....anybody have current numbers for ticket sales?

also back in the '90s people were buying comics as an investment, hoping to make money. Kinda like when people started buying Beanie Babies when their prices went up by collectors. Then the market went bust on those.

 

[Mario Kart]

You know what would be kind of neat? A real dark Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles reboot.

Ninja Turtles is being made for release in 2013. Whether it will be dark or not I have no idea. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1291150/

Nickelodeon has its hands on it and it says its the more cartoony comics. The real turtles were not all pizza and Kowabunga.

 

[netnalp]

Back on topic (kind of) - help me with my Masters of Evil for the sequel.Hulk vs Wonder ManThor vs The Absorbing ManCap vs ZemoI think those 3 cannot get much better.Little stuck on Iron Man - maybe the Crimson Dynamo.Hawkeye vs the Swordsman (if it could work)Blank on Widow.And as long as we are playing, add an Avenger and a foe - Black Panther vs Klaw

Titania vs. Iron man?Could also team Zemo with Prince Namor.

 

[netnalp]

I agree that Hulk probably beats Thor. I think Silver Surfer and Dr. Strange beat Hulk.

Probably.But Sentry and Franklin Richards may be even tougher than all 3 you mention

Not familiar with them. My reading of comics ended around Infinity Gauntlet.

 

[netnalp]

Avengers was really good, but it's not better than Dark Knight.

The movies should not be compared. One is fun and filled with humor and one is driven on darkness. I enjoyed them both but for extremely different reasons.

Yeah, totally different extremes of the same genre. Marvel has been purposeful in going with a lighter tone, and I think it serves this group of characters well. There are some Marvel characters that could have that same gritty pseudo-reality treatment that Nolan used so effectively in Dark Knight, but with Hulk, Thor and Iron Man it would be ridiculous.Both are great in their own way. Though I do have to say, for pure entertainment and joy, I'd probably watch Avengers 9 times out of 10 over Dark Knight. The other time I'd likely be drunk and pissed off about something.

The Frank Miller stories for Daredevil could provide Dark Knight-like grittiness.

The Miller-penned "Born Again" storyline is supposedly serving as the basis for a Daredevil relaunch that is in development.

That'd be awesome, Daredevil #227 was the first comic I ever bought.As for the Spider-man reboot it doesn't have Jameson in it, but for the sequels I think R. Lee Ermey should be cast. I was disappointed he wasn't in the previous movies, seems like he'd be perfect. He played the sergeant in Full Metal Jacket.

 

[The Duff Man]

If any FBGs are interested, I am thinking of putting up a seven year run of Avengers I have for sale. Starting with Avengers/Thor Disassembled and ending with Siege.

Includes all the big events during that span, Civil War, World War Hulk, Secret Invasion, Dark Reign and Siege.

For several years there were multiple books, with the longest crossover being New Avengers and Mighty Avengers (which turned into Dark Avengers)

I will have to catalogue them to see what I have, if interested shoot me a PM.

 

[The Duff Man]

For anyone that liked Hulk in this movie, they should check out World War Hulk in torrent or their preferred method of obtaining reading material. I was never a Hulk fan, but that was a great story as was the next several years with the Red Hulk leading up to World War HulkS.

Yeah...original title.

 

[NCCommish]

It seems that powers are scaled back some in the movies although Thor is probably the most powerful single hero in the Marvel Universe that I can think of.

It's hard to quantify but prior to Thor getting the Odin power I would take Hulk in any throwdown. There just doesn't seem to be an upper limit to his strength. When he goes all "HULK SMASH!" he's pretty much unstoppable.

This was pretty much my take on the "who is the most unstoppable" question. I am in my 40's and thru the years I have never known any entity that defeats Hulk. That included Thor. And I am a huge fan of Thor. Hulk's strength is based on his anger. That's pure human emotion. There is no limit to emotion. Thus there is no limit to Hulk and his strength. But I love Thor and the whole brother against brother story.

I agree that Hulk probably beats Thor. I think Silver Surfer and Dr. Strange beat Hulk.

I believe Hulk has already nearly beaten Silver Surfer to death in Secret Wars.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

What's green, 8½ feet tall and steals the show from the screen's greatest collection of superheroes in The Avengers?

Answer: Mark Ruffalo's turn as the Hulk, which has fans buzzing that the angriest superhero has finally lived up to his massive screen expectations. Speaking more grunts than actual words, Hulk smashes — in every way.

"They finally got Hulk right," says Borys Kit of the Heat Vision fanboy blog. "He's a total breakout character."

Even Lou Ferrigno, who played the title role in the 1978-1982 TV series The Incredible Hulk, is impressed. "This is the best I have ever seen on-screen," he says. "He looks more realistic than the other two movies. He steals the whole show."

There have been other screen versions of Bruce Banner, whose experimental mishap with gamma radiation leads to a big, green transformation whenever he's angry. But Eric Bana's 2003 Hulk and Edward Norton's 2008 The Incredible Hulk received mixed audience and critical reactions.

Ruffalo and director Joss Whedon used motion-capture technology to achieve a realistic Hulk, working extensively with a special-effects team at Industrial Light & Magic.

"Technology has advanced to where the actor playing Banner can actually play the Hulk," Ruffalo says. "It was something I had always missed in the previous movies. The Hulk parts always felt like another movie."

The downside: Ruffalo had to wear a "humiliating" tracking suit that included a Lycra onesie. But his Hulk is so real that his 4-year-old daughter, Odette, freaked when she saw the character chasing Scarlett Johansson's Black Widow.

"My daughter was saying, 'Why do you want to kill that girl, Papa?' She really thought I turned into the Hulk," Ruffalo says. "I had to leave the theater to convince her that it wasn't me."

The Hulk humor and Ruffalo's everyman performance as Banner have led to calls for a solo Hulk movie. Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige is not ready to commit but promises to fix the Hulk onesie.

"Rest assured," Feige says, "we have already discussed ways of redesigning that suit."

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I agree that Hulk probably beats Thor. I think Silver Surfer and Dr. Strange beat Hulk.

Probably.But Sentry and Franklin Richards may be even tougher than all 3 you mention

Not familiar with them. My reading of comics ended around Infinity Gauntlet.

franklin richards is the child of Reed and Sue Storm, he is extremely powerful.Sentry? i dunoo

 

[jdoggydogg]

Loved it how the agent described his Captain America cards as, "near mint with a bit of foxing on the edges."

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

You know what would be kind of neat? A real dark Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles reboot.

Ninja Turtles is being made for release in 2013. Whether it will be dark or not I have no idea. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1291150/

Nickelodeon has its hands on it and it says its the more cartoony comics. The real turtles were not all pizza and Kowabunga.

Michael Bay is involved in this and it's going to be the worst thing ever.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Avengers was really good, but it's not better than Dark Knight.

The movies should not be compared. One is fun and filled with humor and one is driven on darkness. I enjoyed them both but for extremely different reasons.

Yeah, totally different extremes of the same genre. Marvel has been purposeful in going with a lighter tone, and I think it serves this group of characters well. There are some Marvel characters that could have that same gritty pseudo-reality treatment that Nolan used so effectively in Dark Knight, but with Hulk, Thor and Iron Man it would be ridiculous.Both are great in their own way. Though I do have to say, for pure entertainment and joy, I'd probably watch Avengers 9 times out of 10 over Dark Knight. The other time I'd likely be drunk and pissed off about something.

The Frank Miller stories for Daredevil could provide Dark Knight-like grittiness.

The Miller-penned "Born Again" storyline is supposedly serving as the basis for a Daredevil relaunch that is in development.

So long as Ben Afflack stays far away from the project. That movie is probably the worst comic book movie IMO. Worse than the Clooney and Kilmer Batmans. IT may have turned me off of the character completely.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

The Avengers may put an end to the global recession.

Like a rampaging Hulk, Marvel Studios' "The Avengers" seems determined to demolish the global box office -- to say nothing of its competition -- hauling in $702.2 million in just 13 days.

According to The Hollywood Reporter, the Joss Whedon-directed film has earned $226.4 million in North America, including an impressive $18.9 million on Monday, and $475.8 million internationally.

TheWrap contends "The Avengers" is on track to become a $1 billion blockbuster, a first for Marvel Studios. Jeff Bock, an analyst for Exhibitor Relations Co. told the website he "wouldn't be surprised" if the film passed "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows -- Part 2" ($1.3 billion) to become No. 3 on the list of all-time box office leaders, behind "Avatar" ($2.7 billion) and "Titanic" ($2.1 billion).

The ensemble film has already eclipsed the lifetime grosses of Marvel's "Iron Man," "Iron Man 2," "Thor" and "Captain America: The First Avenger."

However, "The Avengers" isn't only selling movie tickets -- it's selling shawarma! According to TMZ, a scene in the film (no spoilers!) has led to a spike in demand for the meat wraps. In fact, the manager of Ro Ro's Chicken in Hollywood says that shawarma sales jumped 80 percent in the days after the movie's opening.

"The Avengers" stars Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man, Chris Evans as Captain America, Mark Ruffalo as the Incredible Hulk, Chris Hemsworth as Thor, Scarlett Johansson as Black Widow, Jeremy Renner as Hawkeye, Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury, Tom Hiddleston as Loki, Clark Gregg as S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent Phil Coulson, Cobie Smulders as S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent Maria Hill and Stellan Skarsgård as Dr. Selvig.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Avengers has now moved up the the 25th all time highest ranked movie by IMDB users. In a couple of days it will move past Silence of the Lambs, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Rear Window, and the Matrix.

It should settle in anywhere between 13-17th when all is said and done.

 

[Copeman]

Avengers has now moved up the the 25th all time highest ranked movie by IMDB users. In a couple of days it will move past Silence of the Lambs, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Rear Window, and the Matrix. It should settle in anywhere between 13-17th when all is said and done.

It's a good, fun movie, but wow.....

 

[NewlyRetired]

Avengers has now moved up the the 25th all time highest ranked movie by IMDB users. In a couple of days it will move past Silence of the Lambs, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Rear Window, and the Matrix. It should settle in anywhere between 13-17th when all is said and done.

It's a good, fun movie, but wow.....

Yeah this is much higher than I expected especially given the extremely light hearted tone of the movie. Still, great for all those who worked their butts off. This is going to give Whedon some serious juice now.