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The Birther Conspiracy Thread (4 Viewers)

The feeling I have today is very similar to the feeling I had when Arrested Development was canceled.

I'm thankful for the gift of some of the greatest comedy I've ever known, and I'm hopeful that many of the key players will continue to make me laugh for many, many years to come. But I'm still saddened by the loss, and I know deep down it will never be the same.

 
The feeling I have today is very similar to the feeling I had when Arrested Development was canceled. I'm thankful for the gift of some of the greatest comedy I've ever known, and I'm hopeful that many of the key players will continue to make me laugh for many, many years to come. But I'm still saddened by the loss, and I know deep down it will never be the same.
:goodposting: I'm sure some will still hold out hope...but to disagree now would just seem pathetic.
 
FOX is great.... "he could have done this at any time...WHY did he wait so long?"
That is a pretty good question. Anyone know the answer?
Because you do not argue with fools or dignify such bull#### with an answer. I guess because it has become a more mainstream story of late and given wackos a voice, he wanted to stop it now. Maybe it prevents the crazies from becoming galvanized and voting.
 
TERRIBLE timing by Obama. The perfect time to do this would have been the late summer of 2012, as the Republican candidates were bashing him left-and-right over the birth certificate. He could have unveiled the birth certificate DURING one of the debates, catching the Republicans off guard, rendering them speechless, making them look like total fools, and ultimately sealing the election. Instead, he has given them A YEAR to come up with more reasons to question him. Instead of the campaign being dominated by "Where is your birth certificate", it will now be dominated by "Why did you wait so long?"

Obama just lost the 2012 election. The birth certificate was his trump card (pun intended).

 
FOX is great.... "he could have done this at any time...WHY did he wait so long?"
That is a pretty good question. Anyone know the answer?
My guess is because it's very amusing watching idiots act like, well...idiots.
And if you don't think today was chosen to release the birth certificate (as opposed to yesterday or tomorrow ) as a way to take media attention and political talk away from today's Fed press conference which is more vital to the Health of the Nation, then you're also an idiot.
 
FOX is great.... "he could have done this at any time...WHY did he wait so long?"
That is a pretty good question. Anyone know the answer?
Because you do not argue with fools or dignify such bull#### with an answer. I guess because it has become a more mainstream story of late and given wackos a voice, he wanted to stop it now. Maybe it prevents the crazies from becoming galvanized and voting.
A Constitution requirement of being president is being a citizen. The issue was raised first by Hillary Clinton, so this is not a Republican issue. Rather is an issue of whether he is a citizen of the USA. The press had no problem going after John McCain on the same issue. An executive interviewing to be CEO of a small company gets more scrutiny than did Obama being President for the USA. So the question is legitimate. What is not legitimate is that he waited 2 1/2 years to release this document. Something smells to high heaven. I believe he was born in Hawaii and the issue is not that big a deal. What is a big deal is that this looks like a cover up and the press covered for him. That the press is in bed with Obama. So why now. This could have been put to bed a long time ago?
 
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FOX is great.... "he could have done this at any time...WHY did he wait so long?"
That is a pretty good question. Anyone know the answer?
Because you do not argue with fools or dignify such bull#### with an answer. I guess because it has become a more mainstream story of late and given wackos a voice, he wanted to stop it now. Maybe it prevents the crazies from becoming galvanized and voting.
And that's where I disagee with himWhackos are citizens too, and the request for this document wasn't totally unreasonable. glad it's over
 
'jon_mx said:
Still most likely Hawaii, but it is not established beyond a reasonable doubt in my opinion.
At this point, I think Obama is the only president whose place of birth has been 100% confirmed. I wish Obama didn't give in. I don't think the Tea Partiers realize how offensive it really is to push the first black/muslim president to do that.
 
FOX is great.... "he could have done this at any time...WHY did he wait so long?"
That is a pretty good question. Anyone know the answer?
Because you do not argue with fools or dignify such bull#### with an answer. I guess because it has become a more mainstream story of late and given wackos a voice, he wanted to stop it now. Maybe it prevents the crazies from becoming galvanized and voting.
A Constitution requirement of being president is being a citizen. The issue was raised first by Hillary Clinton, so this is not a Republican issue. Rather is an issue of whether he is a citizen of the USA. The press had no problem going after John McCain on the same issue. An executive interviewing to be CEO of a small company gets more scrutiny than did Obama being President for the USA. So the question is legitimate. What is not legitimate is that he waited 2 1/2 years to release this document. Something smells to high heaven. I believe he was born in Hawaii and the issue is not that big a deal. What is a big deal is that this looks like a cover up and the press covered for him. That the press is in bed with Obama. So why now. This could have been put to bed a long time ago?
How exactly did the press cover for him? They ran the stories, they gave press time to wackos ... what else should they have done?
 
FOX is great.... "he could have done this at any time...WHY did he wait so long?"
That is a pretty good question. Anyone know the answer?
Because you do not argue with fools or dignify such bull#### with an answer. I guess because it has become a more mainstream story of late and given wackos a voice, he wanted to stop it now. Maybe it prevents the crazies from becoming galvanized and voting.
A Constitution requirement of being president is being a citizen. The issue was raised first by Hillary Clinton, so this is not a Republican issue. Rather is an issue of whether he is a citizen of the USA. The press had no problem going after John McCain on the same issue. An executive interviewing to be CEO of a small company gets more scrutiny than did Obama being President for the USA. So the question is legitimate. What is not legitimate is that he waited 2 1/2 years to release this document. Something smells to high heaven. I believe he was born in Hawaii and the issue is not that big a deal. What is a big deal is that this looks like a cover up and the press covered for him. That the press is in bed with Obama. So why now. This could have been put to bed a long time ago?
I appreciate your efforts here. Really, I do. But it's just not the same.
 
FOX is great.... "he could have done this at any time...WHY did he wait so long?"
That is a pretty good question. Anyone know the answer?
Because you do not argue with fools or dignify such bull#### with an answer. I guess because it has become a more mainstream story of late and given wackos a voice, he wanted to stop it now. Maybe it prevents the crazies from becoming galvanized and voting.
A Constitution requirement of being president is being a citizen. The issue was raised first by Hillary Clinton, so this is not a Republican issue. Rather is an issue of whether he is a citizen of the USA. The press had no problem going after John McCain on the same issue. An executive interviewing to be CEO of a small company gets more scrutiny than did Obama being President for the USA. So the question is legitimate. What is not legitimate is that he waited 2 1/2 years to release this document. Something smells to high heaven. I believe he was born in Hawaii and the issue is not that big a deal. What is a big deal is that this looks like a cover up and the press covered for him. That the press is in bed with Obama. So why now. This could have been put to bed a long time ago?
:lmao: :lmao:
 
Eric Cantor on Fox: "I'm surprised the White House is addressing this issue - we have far more important things to focus on."

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

 
LOL Fox News. "Mounting Questions". "National Political Debate". "Discussed Regularly".

White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer said the administration decided to release the full document in response to mounting questions about the president's birth. He noted that what started as Internet chatter had moved into the national political debate and ended up being discussed regularly on mainstream news outlets.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/27/white-house-releases-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate/#ixzz1KjXjpV9O
 
And I have yet to hear from the Birthers say that they are sorry that they questioned the President of the United States on where he was born. I think after all the crap you have said that turned out to be false.. a Simple I was wrong and I am sorry is the right thing to say.

 
FOX is great.... "he could have done this at any time...WHY did he wait so long?"
That is a pretty good question. Anyone know the answer?
Because you do not argue with fools or dignify such bull#### with an answer. I guess because it has become a more mainstream story of late and given wackos a voice, he wanted to stop it now. Maybe it prevents the crazies from becoming galvanized and voting.
A Constitution requirement of being president is being a citizen. The issue was raised first by Hillary Clinton, so this is not a Republican issue. Rather is an issue of whether he is a citizen of the USA. The press had no problem going after John McCain on the same issue. An executive interviewing to be CEO of a small company gets more scrutiny than did Obama being President for the USA. So the question is legitimate. What is not legitimate is that he waited 2 1/2 years to release this document. Something smells to high heaven. I believe he was born in Hawaii and the issue is not that big a deal. What is a big deal is that this looks like a cover up and the press covered for him. That the press is in bed with Obama. So why now. This could have been put to bed a long time ago?
How exactly did the press cover for him? They ran the stories, they gave press time to wackos ... what else should they have done?
The issue has not been a big issue for me. Like everyone else is stating there are more important issues on the table. That being stated, by and large the left wing media is the one fueling issue. Why is that? One reason is that they wanted to paint the right wing as extremist and this looks like like an extremist issue. So the right wing, by and large have been trying to put this to bed (Fox and Ann Colter especially.) The left is not trying to put it bed, they are obsessed with this issue like they are with Sara Palin. It gives them something to talk about rather than the pathetic job Obama has done with the economy and foreign affairs.
 
And I have yet to hear from the Birthers say that they are sorry that they questioned the President of the United States on where he was born. I think after all the crap you have said that turned out to be false.. a Simple I was wrong and I am sorry is the right thing to say.
You will be waiting until hell freezes over
 
FOX is great.... "he could have done this at any time...WHY did he wait so long?"
That is a pretty good question. Anyone know the answer?
Because you do not argue with fools or dignify such bull#### with an answer. I guess because it has become a more mainstream story of late and given wackos a voice, he wanted to stop it now. Maybe it prevents the crazies from becoming galvanized and voting.
A Constitution requirement of being president is being a citizen. The issue was raised first by Hillary Clinton, so this is not a Republican issue. Rather is an issue of whether he is a citizen of the USA. The press had no problem going after John McCain on the same issue. An executive interviewing to be CEO of a small company gets more scrutiny than did Obama being President for the USA. So the question is legitimate. What is not legitimate is that he waited 2 1/2 years to release this document. Something smells to high heaven. I believe he was born in Hawaii and the issue is not that big a deal. What is a big deal is that this looks like a cover up and the press covered for him. That the press is in bed with Obama. So why now. This could have been put to bed a long time ago?
Blame it on law school training (I know, I know, he still hasn't proven he actually went to law school). When the other side is focusing all its attention and all its capital on something you can destroy in a matter of seconds, you let them do it. Let them firmly establish their position, and encourage them to state it several times so there can be no going back. Make sure all of the wackos are out in the open, ranting about how sure they are you're hiding something, then smash all their credibility at one time. Now that we've started the 2012 campaigning, and the wackos have all taken their positions, let them have it. The next time any of them are "sure" of anything, in any speech or debate, just remind everyone in the country how sure that same candidate was that he wasn't born in Hawaii.
 
FOX is great.... "he could have done this at any time...WHY did he wait so long?"
That is a pretty good question. Anyone know the answer?
Because you do not argue with fools or dignify such bull#### with an answer. I guess because it has become a more mainstream story of late and given wackos a voice, he wanted to stop it now. Maybe it prevents the crazies from becoming galvanized and voting.
A Constitution requirement of being president is being a citizen. The issue was raised first by Hillary Clinton, so this is not a Republican issue. Rather is an issue of whether he is a citizen of the USA. The press had no problem going after John McCain on the same issue. An executive interviewing to be CEO of a small company gets more scrutiny than did Obama being President for the USA. So the question is legitimate. What is not legitimate is that he waited 2 1/2 years to release this document. Something smells to high heaven. I believe he was born in Hawaii and the issue is not that big a deal. What is a big deal is that this looks like a cover up and the press covered for him. That the press is in bed with Obama. So why now. This could have been put to bed a long time ago?
How exactly did the press cover for him? They ran the stories, they gave press time to wackos ... what else should they have done?
They ran with false information coming from state officials without any critical analysis for one
 
FOX is great.... "he could have done this at any time...WHY did he wait so long?"
That is a pretty good question. Anyone know the answer?
Because you do not argue with fools or dignify such bull#### with an answer. I guess because it has become a more mainstream story of late and given wackos a voice, he wanted to stop it now. Maybe it prevents the crazies from becoming galvanized and voting.
A Constitution requirement of being president is being a citizen. The issue was raised first by Hillary Clinton, so this is not a Republican issue. Rather is an issue of whether he is a citizen of the USA. The press had no problem going after John McCain on the same issue.

An executive interviewing to be CEO of a small company gets more scrutiny than did Obama being President for the USA.

So the question is legitimate. What is not legitimate is that he waited 2 1/2 years to release this document. Something smells to high heaven.

I believe he was born in Hawaii and the issue is not that big a deal. What is a big deal is that this looks like a cover up and the press covered for him. That the press is in bed with Obama.

So why now. This could have been put to bed a long time ago?
How exactly did the press cover for him? They ran the stories, they gave press time to wackos ... what else should they have done?
The issue has not been a big issue for me. Like everyone else is stating there are more important issues on the table. That being stated, by and large the left wing media is the one fueling issue. Why is that? One reason is that they wanted to paint the right wing as extremist and this looks like like an extremist issue. So the right wing, by and large have been trying to put this to bed (Fox and Ann Colter especially.) The left is not trying to put it bed, they are obsessed with this issue like they are with Sara Palin. It gives them something to talk about rather than the pathetic job Obama has done with the economy and foreign affairs.
Wow. Who knew Jon MX, Trump, RedState.com etc were the left wing?
 
FOX is great.... "he could have done this at any time...WHY did he wait so long?"
That is a pretty good question. Anyone know the answer?
Because you do not argue with fools or dignify such bull#### with an answer. I guess because it has become a more mainstream story of late and given wackos a voice, he wanted to stop it now. Maybe it prevents the crazies from becoming galvanized and voting.
A Constitution requirement of being president is being a citizen. The issue was raised first by Hillary Clinton, so this is not a Republican issue. Rather is an issue of whether he is a citizen of the USA. The press had no problem going after John McCain on the same issue. An executive interviewing to be CEO of a small company gets more scrutiny than did Obama being President for the USA. So the question is legitimate. What is not legitimate is that he waited 2 1/2 years to release this document. Something smells to high heaven. I believe he was born in Hawaii and the issue is not that big a deal. What is a big deal is that this looks like a cover up and the press covered for him. That the press is in bed with Obama. So why now. This could have been put to bed a long time ago?
Blame it on law school training (I know, I know, he still hasn't proven he actually went to law school). When the other side is focusing all its attention and all its capital on something you can destroy in a matter of seconds, you let them do it. Let them firmly establish their position, and encourage them to state it several times so there can be no going back. Make sure all of the wackos are out in the open, ranting about how sure they are you're hiding something, then smash all their credibility at one time. Now that we've started the 2012 campaigning, and the wackos have all taken their positions, let them have it. The next time any of them are "sure" of anything, in any speech or debate, just remind everyone in the country how sure that same candidate was that he wasn't born in Hawaii.
Trump is the candidate who has taken a position on this, and now he's declaring victory
 
FOX is great.... "he could have done this at any time...WHY did he wait so long?"
That is a pretty good question. Anyone know the answer?
My guess is because it's very amusing watching idiots act like, well...idiots.
And if you don't think today was chosen to release the birth certificate (as opposed to yesterday or tomorrow ) as a way to take media attention and political talk away from today's Fed press conference which is more vital to the Health of the Nation, then you're also an idiot.
Put down the megaphone Jewell. It's over.
 
FOX is great.... "he could have done this at any time...WHY did he wait so long?"
That is a pretty good question. Anyone know the answer?
Because you do not argue with fools or dignify such bull#### with an answer. I guess because it has become a more mainstream story of late and given wackos a voice, he wanted to stop it now. Maybe it prevents the crazies from becoming galvanized and voting.
A Constitution requirement of being president is being a citizen. The issue was raised first by Hillary Clinton, so this is not a Republican issue. Rather is an issue of whether he is a citizen of the USA. The press had no problem going after John McCain on the same issue.

An executive interviewing to be CEO of a small company gets more scrutiny than did Obama being President for the USA.

So the question is legitimate. What is not legitimate is that he waited 2 1/2 years to release this document. Something smells to high heaven.

I believe he was born in Hawaii and the issue is not that big a deal. What is a big deal is that this looks like a cover up and the press covered for him. That the press is in bed with Obama.

So why now. This could have been put to bed a long time ago?
How exactly did the press cover for him? They ran the stories, they gave press time to wackos ... what else should they have done?
The issue has not been a big issue for me. Like everyone else is stating there are more important issues on the table. That being stated, by and large the left wing media is the one fueling issue. Why is that? One reason is that they wanted to paint the right wing as extremist and this looks like like an extremist issue. So the right wing, by and large have been trying to put this to bed (Fox and Ann Colter especially.) The left is not trying to put it bed, they are obsessed with this issue like they are with Sara Palin. It gives them something to talk about rather than the pathetic job Obama has done with the economy and foreign affairs.
Wow. Who knew Jon MX, Trump, RedState.com etc were the left wing?
Trump is right wing like Schwarzenegger is right wing. I can't comment on either Jon or red state.
 
FOX is great.... "he could have done this at any time...WHY did he wait so long?"
That is a pretty good question. Anyone know the answer?
Because you do not argue with fools or dignify such bull#### with an answer. I guess because it has become a more mainstream story of late and given wackos a voice, he wanted to stop it now. Maybe it prevents the crazies from becoming galvanized and voting.
A Constitution requirement of being president is being a citizen. The issue was raised first by Hillary Clinton, so this is not a Republican issue. Rather is an issue of whether he is a citizen of the USA. The press had no problem going after John McCain on the same issue. An executive interviewing to be CEO of a small company gets more scrutiny than did Obama being President for the USA. So the question is legitimate. What is not legitimate is that he waited 2 1/2 years to release this document. Something smells to high heaven. I believe he was born in Hawaii and the issue is not that big a deal. What is a big deal is that this looks like a cover up and the press covered for him. That the press is in bed with Obama. So why now. This could have been put to bed a long time ago?
Blame it on law school training (I know, I know, he still hasn't proven he actually went to law school). When the other side is focusing all its attention and all its capital on something you can destroy in a matter of seconds, you let them do it. Let them firmly establish their position, and encourage them to state it several times so there can be no going back. Make sure all of the wackos are out in the open, ranting about how sure they are you're hiding something, then smash all their credibility at one time. Now that we've started the 2012 campaigning, and the wackos have all taken their positions, let them have it. The next time any of them are "sure" of anything, in any speech or debate, just remind everyone in the country how sure that same candidate was that he wasn't born in Hawaii.
Trump is the candidate who has taken a position on this, and now he's declaring victory
Of course he is--while Bill Cosby and everyone else are laughing at him.
 
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That being stated, by and large the left wing media is the one fueling issue. Why is that? One reason is that they wanted to paint the right wing as extremist and this looks like like an extremist issue. So the right wing, by and large have been trying to put this to bed (Fox and Ann Colter especially.) The left is not trying to put it bed, they are obsessed with this issue like they are with Sara Palin. It gives them something to talk about rather than the pathetic job Obama has done with the economy and foreign affairs.
lol.First, this couldn't be further from the truth. The Right has been hitting at this non-stop. Go and read those comments on Fox News. Many still don't believe it. Look at the Donald Trump birther campaign. You really think it's the left promoting this? Your conspiracy theory might be worse than the birthers'.Second, regarding this and Palin -- the only similarity I see is that both times many Righties thought they hit a home run. Both came crashing down hard.
 
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