The Birther Conspiracy Thread (3 Viewers)

[Novice2]

Now was that so hard?

 

[Saints-Man]

I am actually a tad surprised that this forgery took 2+ years to get. We used to lead the way in forgery. As a nation we are really slipping here.

The Chinese have passed us in forgery.

 

[Saints-Man]

Trump:

"First we have to look at the certificate," he said. "I want to look at it, but I hope it's true, so we can get to more important national issues."

"Why he didn't do it when the Clintons asked for it. Why he didn't do it when everyone else was asking about it, I don't know," he said.

"You're going to have many people looking at it …. It's amazing that all of a sudden it materializes. Experts will look at it … and I'm very proud that I was able to bring this to a point."

A Trump presidency would keep the nation laughing, that is for sure.

 

[The Commish]

Obama just gave his long form birth certificate over to the press and will talk at 9:45. Now you lunatics can shut up.

I don't think I would have done this if I were President Obama. His opponents look crazy for pursuing this, and he has provided everything required of him.

I certainly wouldn't have done it.....I'd have waited a whole extra year and released it during the campaigns.

 

[Saints-Man]

Obama just gave his long form birth certificate over to the press and will talk at 9:45. Now you lunatics can shut up.

I don't think I would have done this if I were President Obama. His opponents look crazy for pursuing this, and he has provided everything required of him.

I certainly wouldn't have done it.....I'd have waited a whole extra year and released it during the campaigns.

 

[Novice2]

Or did it take them this long to make a fake they thought was good enogh to fool the people of the United States Of America?

 

[Mr. Pickles]

The Power Ranking Committee will be watching closely. Choose your reactions carefully, fellas.

 

[Charlie Frown]

FOX is great.... "he could have done this at any time...WHY did he wait so long?"

That is a pretty good question. Anyone know the answer?

Because you do not argue with fools or dignify such bull#### with an answer. I guess because it has become a more mainstream story of late and given wackos a voice, he wanted to stop it now. Maybe it prevents the crazies from becoming galvanized and voting.

A Constitution requirement of being president is being a citizen. The issue was raised first by Hillary Clinton, so this is not a Republican issue. Rather is an issue of whether he is a citizen of the USA. The press had no problem going after John McCain on the same issue. An executive interviewing to be CEO of a small company gets more scrutiny than did Obama being President for the USA. So the question is legitimate. What is not legitimate is that he waited 2 1/2 years to release this document. Something smells to high heaven. I believe he was born in Hawaii and the issue is not that big a deal. What is a big deal is that this looks like a cover up and the press covered for him. That the press is in bed with Obama. So why now. This could have been put to bed a long time ago?

How exactly did the press cover for him? They ran the stories, they gave press time to wackos ... what else should they have done?

The issue has not been a big issue for me. Like everyone else is stating there are more important issues on the table. That being stated, by and large the left wing media is the one fueling issue. Why is that? One reason is that they wanted to paint the right wing as extremist and this looks like like an extremist issue. So the right wing, by and large have been trying to put this to bed (Fox and Ann Colter especially.) The left is not trying to put it bed, they are obsessed with this issue like they are with Sara Palin. It gives them something to talk about rather than the pathetic job Obama has done with the economy and foreign affairs.

I still can't understand the left's fascination with Palin. You would think they would want her to run for prez. No way she could win IMHO. That is assuming she could win the nom. She would implode long before that came to pass I think.

 

[Beaumont]

http://www.birthers.org/

 

[Mr. Pickles]

In other news, it's time to release Trig Palin's birth certificate. Enough with the obfuscation. America needs to move on.

 

[MasterofOrion]

Oh the political games people play. The issue is an issue because the left wants it be. In a way that is exactly what I have been saying all along.

Are you under the impression that the World Net Daily is a leftist rag? Is Orly Taitz a Democrat?

Or all of MSMBC especially Chris Mathews.

 

[MasterofOrion]

Hillary raised the issue first.

You keep saying this. It is wrong.Hillary did not start it. Lunatics started it. They happened to be supporters of Hillary.

You are right, I don't know who or how it was raised.OTOH issues are raised by supporters all the time. Many times the candidates do not want to raise the issue directly so they order there supporters to do it. Who knows, but it wasn't the right wing who first raised the issue.

But it WAS the right wing that took it this far. What distinction do you think you're making?

wrong - look who populates this thread. Almost all libs.This is a lib issue.

 

[urbanhack]

Oh the political games people play. The issue is an issue because the left wants it be. In a way that is exactly what I have been saying all along.

Are you under the impression that the World Net Daily is a leftist rag? Is Orly Taitz a Democrat?

Or all of MSMBC especially Chris Mathews.

Hillary raised the issue first.

You keep saying this. It is wrong.Hillary did not start it. Lunatics started it. They happened to be supporters of Hillary.

You are right, I don't know who or how it was raised.OTOH issues are raised by supporters all the time. Many times the candidates do not want to raise the issue directly so they order there supporters to do it. Who knows, but it wasn't the right wing who first raised the issue.

But it WAS the right wing that took it this far. What distinction do you think you're making?

wrong - look who populates this thread. Almost all libs.This is a lib issue all the way.

I hate this issue. I wish it would go away.

 

[MasterofOrion]

Why does MasterofOrion hate basketball?

Wrong question. Why does Obama not have time for important things and so much time for golf, fund raising, playing basketball.....

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Hillary raised the issue first.

You keep saying this. It is wrong.Hillary did not start it. Lunatics started it. They happened to be supporters of Hillary.

You are right, I don't know who or how it was raised.OTOH issues are raised by supporters all the time. Many times the candidates do not want to raise the issue directly so they order there supporters to do it. Who knows, but it wasn't the right wing who first raised the issue.

But it WAS the right wing that took it this far. What distinction do you think you're making?

wrong - look who populates this thread. Almost all libs.This is a lib issue.

Gawkers at the scene of an accident didn't cause it to happen.

 

[Shtaym Syek]

Why does MasterofOrion hate basketball?

Wrong question. Why does Obama not have time for important things and so much time for golf, fund raising, playing basketball.....

Keep moving the target, gb. You've only done it four times.Today.

 

[Road Dogg]

but bit but CNN told me that he couldn't release the long form eben if he wanted to

CNN got that wrong, or Obama pulled some strings not available to everybody else.

Hawaii authorities apparently made an exception for Obama:

...the White House decided to release copies of President Barack Obama’s “long form birth certificate,” in an attempt to quiet conspiracy theorists who believe the president was born elsewhere. The president had already released a version certified by the state of Hawaii, but because of the “volume of requests” for the birth certificate, the president asked the state to make an exception and release the original document.

more stuff here about communication between the White House and the Hawaii Dept. of Health

never mind the statute (posted earlier), the state directror of heatlth's statemnets and all of those internet postings of actual long form Hawaii birth certificates...

don't giv in samyou never REALLY believed he was born somewhere else

you just wanted more and more and more and more and more and more proof

don;t let the fact that it came make you feel silly

 

[MasterofOrion]

Oh the political games people play. The issue is an issue because the left wants it be. In a way that is exactly what I have been saying all along.

Are you under the impression that the World Net Daily is a leftist rag? Is Orly Taitz a Democrat?

WorldNetDaily is out to make a fast buck off of the most partisan folks it can find. I'm don't think they they even belive some of the stuff the publish

WND = Daily KozPlaying to the extremist.

 

[jamny]

Let's keep talking about birth certificates, not the 500 prisoners broken out by the Taliban or the 9 Americans killed by an Afghan pilot today.

 

[Road Dogg]

Now can we fix the procedure to ensure this nonsense doesn't happen again?

the procedure is finethe question was asked, a document was released, and nuts refused to accept itthough now none of them will admit itthe procedure worked fine and it helped identify lunatics in the process

 

[Leroy Hoard]

look who populates this thread. Almost all libs.

Yet more proof "libs" have a good sense of humor.

 

[The Commish]

Hillary raised the issue first.

You keep saying this. It is wrong.Hillary did not start it. Lunatics started it. They happened to be supporters of Hillary.

You are right, I don't know who or how it was raised.OTOH issues are raised by supporters all the time. Many times the candidates do not want to raise the issue directly so they order there supporters to do it. Who knows, but it wasn't the right wing who first raised the issue.

But it WAS the right wing that took it this far. What distinction do you think you're making?

wrong - look who populates this thread. Almost all libs.This is a lib issue.

I am talking about the issue, not who participates in this thread. There's no question, there are a ton of libs in here making fun of the conservatives, and they have every right to. I wasn't talking about this thread though. I was talking about the actual issue...and the conservatives did indeed pick up the ball that Clinton's backers dropped and took off with it.

 

[matuski]

This is a lib issue.

Thank you golddigger, your presence makes this thread damn near perfect for me.

 

[MasterofOrion]

FOX is great.... "he could have done this at any time...WHY did he wait so long?"

That is a pretty good question. Anyone know the answer?

Because you do not argue with fools or dignify such bull#### with an answer. I guess because it has become a more mainstream story of late and given wackos a voice, he wanted to stop it now. Maybe it prevents the crazies from becoming galvanized and voting.

A Constitution requirement of being president is being a citizen. The issue was raised first by Hillary Clinton, so this is not a Republican issue. Rather is an issue of whether he is a citizen of the USA. The press had no problem going after John McCain on the same issue. An executive interviewing to be CEO of a small company gets more scrutiny than did Obama being President for the USA. So the question is legitimate. What is not legitimate is that he waited 2 1/2 years to release this document. Something smells to high heaven. I believe he was born in Hawaii and the issue is not that big a deal. What is a big deal is that this looks like a cover up and the press covered for him. That the press is in bed with Obama. So why now. This could have been put to bed a long time ago?

How exactly did the press cover for him? They ran the stories, they gave press time to wackos ... what else should they have done?

The issue has not been a big issue for me. Like everyone else is stating there are more important issues on the table. That being stated, by and large the left wing media is the one fueling issue. Why is that? One reason is that they wanted to paint the right wing as extremist and this looks like like an extremist issue. So the right wing, by and large have been trying to put this to bed (Fox and Ann Colter especially.) The left is not trying to put it bed, they are obsessed with this issue like they are with Sara Palin. It gives them something to talk about rather than the pathetic job Obama has done with the economy and foreign affairs.

I still can't understand the left's fascination with Palin. You would think they would want her to run for prez. No way she could win IMHO. That is assuming she could win the nom. She would implode long before that came to pass I think.

Having comedians state that she wished her daughter would be raped by a Yankee player. Having someone buy the house next to her for the sole purpose of spying on her. Nobody wants the abuse that the left has heaped upon Sarah Palin. It is a warning for any conservative who speaks out. We will do anything to abuse you and there are no limits to what we will do to destroy you. We have no scruples. Conservatives see this and shut up and sit on their hands. The left wing media is abusive and gets away with it.

 

[MasterofOrion]

Gawkers at the scene of an accident didn't cause it to happen.

You are not Gawking- you are feeding the beast. It fits your template- Right wingers are wackos.

 

[urbanhack]

Gawkers at the scene of an accident didn't cause it to happen.

You are not Gawking- you are feeding the beast. It fits your template- Right wingers are wackos.

I hate this issue. I wish it would go away.

 

[Road Dogg]

Gawkers at the scene of an accident didn't cause it to happen.

You are not Gawking- you are feeding the beast. It fits your template- Right wingers are wackos.

is trump a liberal?

 

[MasterofOrion]

Gawkers at the scene of an accident didn't cause it to happen.

You are not Gawking- you are feeding the beast. It fits your template- Right wingers are wackos.

is trump a liberal?

More liberal than conservative.He is just like Schwarzenegger. RINO

 

[The Commish]

Gawkers at the scene of an accident didn't cause it to happen.

You are not Gawking- you are feeding the beast. It fits your template- Right wingers are wackos.

Again....almost correct. The correct answer here is the beast is turning on itself and eating itself and they think the beast is nuts for doing so. You act as if all this is BEING DONE to the lunatics. The only thing DONE was providing the rope. They chose to hang themselves. Libs didn't even have to tie the rope into a noose. They did it all on their own.

 

[Slapdash]

Hillary raised the issue first.

You keep saying this. It is wrong.Hillary did not start it. Lunatics started it. They happened to be supporters of Hillary.

You are right, I don't know who or how it was raised.OTOH issues are raised by supporters all the time. Many times the candidates do not want to raise the issue directly so they order there supporters to do it. Who knows, but it wasn't the right wing who first raised the issue.

But it WAS the right wing that took it this far. What distinction do you think you're making?

wrong - look who populates this thread. Almost all libs.This is a lib issue.

Top posters:timschochet 189 jon_mx 149 Sam Quentin 149 bigbottom 119 bueno 87 Bronco Billy 76 Statorama 71 "Almost all libs" indeed

 

[MasterofOrion]

Gawkers at the scene of an accident didn't cause it to happen.

You are not Gawking- you are feeding the beast. It fits your template- Right wingers are wackos.

Again....almost correct. The correct answer here is the beast is turning on itself and eating itself and they think the beast is nuts for doing so. You act as if all this is BEING DONE to the lunatics. The only thing DONE was providing the rope. They chose to hang themselves. Libs didn't even have to tie the rope into a noose. They did it all on their own.

Last time I will say this.This story was started by the left, and by and large, being fueled by the left. The right does not like this story and wishes it would go away.

 

[matuski]

Hillary raised the issue first.

You keep saying this. It is wrong.Hillary did not start it. Lunatics started it. They happened to be supporters of Hillary.

You are right, I don't know who or how it was raised.OTOH issues are raised by supporters all the time. Many times the candidates do not want to raise the issue directly so they order there supporters to do it. Who knows, but it wasn't the right wing who first raised the issue.

But it WAS the right wing that took it this far. What distinction do you think you're making?

wrong - look who populates this thread. Almost all libs.This is a lib issue.

Top posters:timschochet 189 jon_mx 149 Sam Quentin 149 bigbottom 119 bueno 87 Bronco Billy 76 Statorama 71 "Almost all libs" indeed

If you chase golddigger away it would be a damn shame. He is on a roll, and I would appreciate if you would allow him to entertain me for a while.

 

[urbanhack]

Gawkers at the scene of an accident didn't cause it to happen.

You are not Gawking- you are feeding the beast. It fits your template- Right wingers are wackos.

Again....almost correct. The correct answer here is the beast is turning on itself and eating itself and they think the beast is nuts for doing so. You act as if all this is BEING DONE to the lunatics. The only thing DONE was providing the rope. They chose to hang themselves. Libs didn't even have to tie the rope into a noose. They did it all on their own.

Last time I will say this.This story was started by the left, and by and large, being fueled by the left. The right does not like this story and wishes it would go away.

I hate this issue. I wish it would go away.

 

[The Commish]

Gawkers at the scene of an accident didn't cause it to happen.

You are not Gawking- you are feeding the beast. It fits your template- Right wingers are wackos.

Again....almost correct. The correct answer here is the beast is turning on itself and eating itself and they think the beast is nuts for doing so. You act as if all this is BEING DONE to the lunatics. The only thing DONE was providing the rope. They chose to hang themselves. Libs didn't even have to tie the rope into a noose. They did it all on their own.

Last time I will say this.This story was started by the left, and by and large, being fueled by the left. The right does not like this story and wishes it would go away.

Personally, I prefer actions over words and looking at this topic from an action point of view, I can comfortably say that you are 100% wrong with the exception of the topic's origin. It was started by some Clinton supporters and then quickly dropped. Do we give credit to they guy who came up with the idea to create the light bulb and then dropped it, or do we give credit to the guy who saw it through to fruition and made it happen?

 

[Fennis]

FOX is great.... "he could have done this at any time...WHY did he wait so long?"

That is a pretty good question. Anyone know the answer?

Because you do not argue with fools or dignify such bull#### with an answer. I guess because it has become a more mainstream story of late and given wackos a voice, he wanted to stop it now. Maybe it prevents the crazies from becoming galvanized and voting.

A Constitution requirement of being president is being a citizen. The issue was raised first by Hillary Clinton, so this is not a Republican issue. Rather is an issue of whether he is a citizen of the USA. The press had no problem going after John McCain on the same issue. An executive interviewing to be CEO of a small company gets more scrutiny than did Obama being President for the USA. So the question is legitimate. What is not legitimate is that he waited 2 1/2 years to release this document. Something smells to high heaven. I believe he was born in Hawaii and the issue is not that big a deal. What is a big deal is that this looks like a cover up and the press covered for him. That the press is in bed with Obama. So why now. This could have been put to bed a long time ago?

How exactly did the press cover for him? They ran the stories, they gave press time to wackos ... what else should they have done?

The issue has not been a big issue for me. Like everyone else is stating there are more important issues on the table. That being stated, by and large the left wing media is the one fueling issue. Why is that? One reason is that they wanted to paint the right wing as extremist and this looks like like an extremist issue. So the right wing, by and large have been trying to put this to bed (Fox and Ann Colter especially.) The left is not trying to put it bed, they are obsessed with this issue like they are with Sara Palin. It gives them something to talk about rather than the pathetic job Obama has done with the economy and foreign affairs.

I still can't understand the left's fascination with Palin. You would think they would want her to run for prez. No way she could win IMHO. That is assuming she could win the nom. She would implode long before that came to pass I think.

Having comedians state that she wished her daughter would be raped by a Yankee player. Having someone buy the house next to her for the sole purpose of spying on her. Nobody wants the abuse that the left has heaped upon Sarah Palin. It is a warning for any conservative who speaks out. We will do anything to abuse you and there are no limits to what we will do to destroy you. We have no scruples. Conservatives see this and shut up and sit on their hands. The left wing media is abusive and gets away with it.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Gawkers at the scene of an accident didn't cause it to happen.

You are not Gawking- you are feeding the beast. It fits your template- Right wingers are wackos.

I don't think you understand the Power Ranking concept.

 

[matuski]

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You bastards. You gotta learn to egg him on awhile before bringing the hammer.

 

[Statorama]

MasterofOrion owning people left and right in this thread.

 

[ericttspikes]

Gawkers at the scene of an accident didn't cause it to happen.

You are not Gawking- you are feeding the beast. It fits your template- Right wingers are wackos.

Maybe they should stop proving it daily.

 

[matuski]

MasterofOrion owning people left and right in this thread.

That's the idea.. come on back golddigger. You were owning people!

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Yeah, the claim of an "exception" to release the form is bizarre. Obama could have requested it and released it himself at any point. He simply chose not to until now.

Do you have a link supporting this? It goes against what the officials from the Hawaii Department of Health have stated.

 

[mcintyre1]

In other news, it's time to release Trig Palin's birth certificate. Enough with the obfuscation. America needs to move on.

I demand satisfaction!

 

[urbanhack]

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You bastards. You gotta learn to egg him on awhile before bringing the hammer.

20 members, 7 guests, 1 anonymous users

pssssst. He's still here.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Why does MasterofOrion hate basketball?

Wrong question. Why does Obama not have time for important things and so much time for golf, fund raising, playing basketball.....

Why not?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Where is Jonmx? Suicide watch?

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Why does MasterofOrion hate basketball?

Wrong question. Why does Obama not have time for important things and so much time for golf, fund raising, playing basketball, beiing on the Oprah Show.....

Why not?

 

[TobiasFunke]

Hillary raised the issue first.

You keep saying this. It is wrong.Hillary did not start it. Lunatics started it. They happened to be supporters of Hillary.

You are right, I don't know who or how it was raised.OTOH issues are raised by supporters all the time. Many times the candidates do not want to raise the issue directly so they order there supporters to do it. Who knows, but it wasn't the right wing who first raised the issue.

But it WAS the right wing that took it this far. What distinction do you think you're making?

wrong - look who populates this thread. Almost all libs.This is a lib issue.

Top posters:timschochet 189 jon_mx 149 Sam Quentin 149 bigbottom 119 bueno 87 Bronco Billy 76 Statorama 71 "Almost all libs" indeed

I can't believe I didn't make this list.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Statler: I hear he's a foreigner.

Waldorf: A what?

Statler: Foreigner. Not from here.

Waldorf: Oh, good. Then he can leave.

 

[Phil Elliott]

In these days of short news cycles, its entertaining to see a story with legs and seeing everyone posting saying they want this to go away.

 

[MasterofOrion]

In these days of short news cycles, its entertaining to see a story with legs and seeing everyone posting saying they want this to go away.

Republicans are going to hate Trump the Presidential candidate. He is a loose canon and will hurt Republicans. I don't trust him. He gave 54% funds to Democrats. He campaigns often for Democrats. He defines RINO and will be just like Schwarzenegger.