Emerson Biggens
Footballguy
to finish your sentiment: Both games, no offense at allI'd rather not make the effing playoffs than do this ####. God this is pathetic.
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The Dodgers vs. The Cubs (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
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ffldrew
Footballguy
On a positive note - I noticed a couple of innings ago a Dodger ball going down the left field line and the fans didn't reach over the wall this time. So they are learning.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
It's Gonna HappenWho You Crappin?
They're the Cubs
They're the Cubs
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
OK, I've seen enough of Billingsley tonight.
Good game kid.
Good game kid.
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Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Who's sweeping up the peanut shells and locking the doors?
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Wrigley
Footballguy
Woo-Woo
T Bell
Footballguy
Bob Hope?
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
See, and I thought Ronnie was keeping the books.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Ed Gein. You can tell by the teeth.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
You know what the biggest hit was? Furcal's bunt. It opened the flood gates. Loved that play.Actually think it was big in a couple of ways because it got Furcal going as well. He's 3 - 5 tonight. He's like the last cog in this hot wheel peaking at the right time. 
It's reminding me of their last WS run -- just got on a roll. I hope Kershaw pitches well. If he cruises, they are very dangerous. The relaxed attitude for everybody is really working.Anyway, I LOVE IT. Go BLUE!
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Darling sounds just like Gene Simmons.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Is Billingsley in High School?
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
I don't think it will be a sweep, Harden is a stopper.
Was there any debate in pitching Harden in one of the first two games? I think I would have gone that route if I were Pinella.
I'm not convinced this series is over yet regardless.
Was there any debate in pitching Harden in one of the first two games? I think I would have gone that route if I were Pinella.
I'm not convinced this series is over yet regardless.
T Bell
Footballguy
Worst. Interview. Ever. I'd rather stare at a still life of droopy celery for an hour than watch an interview with him.
The Jerminator
Footballguy
He's a graduate of the Nuke LaLoosh School of Interview Answersing...He sure was dealing tonight though!
Wrigley
Footballguy
What ever, Meat.
B Maverick
Footballguy
None. He is supposed to be a better road pitcher then Z and their game 1 pitcher. Game 1 was pitched by a guy 14-3 at home and two was their "ACE" Zambrano.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
I just didn't trust Dempster, sorry. I think, ideally, Zambrano was the start in game 1. I don't care about the seasons they each had, Zambrano's the ace. You put your big horse out there to start the series, I think.
TheWalkmen
Footballguy
I'm strangely optimistic this series is coming back to Chicago.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
What I found to be an odd stat was on ESPN last night.29 Best of 5 Series had a team going down 0-221 resulted in a sweepBut 7 teams came back and won the series. So it seems if they can win Game 3, there's a more than realistic chance of that happening.Not sure if the 28 times was just home team going down 0-2, or if it was all teams. I'll see if they show it again this morning.
Before I read any new posts congrats again to LA fans. Only one team has shown up for the playoffs so far. I underestimated the Dodgers.
Two things I have been impressed with:
Billingsley (I knew he was good, but...)
The ability to tack on additional runs lateAfter watching the Cubs amaze me all year I don't think this series is over, but I sure hear the fat lady warming up her vocal chords. Kind of bummed right now but what are you going to do? How do you go from 97 wins to this? Unbelievable.
Two things I have been impressed with:
Billingsley (I knew he was good, but...)
The ability to tack on additional runs lateAfter watching the Cubs amaze me all year I don't think this series is over, but I sure hear the fat lady warming up her vocal chords. Kind of bummed right now but what are you going to do? How do you go from 97 wins to this? Unbelievable.
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
I think the Yankees were the one team to lose the first two at home and come back to win. They beat the A's (that was the year of the Jeter flip to Posada to get Giambi, who didn't slide, at the plate).I definitely don't see this series being over. A 3-0 deficit in the best of 7 is one thing, but down 2 in best of 5 appears less daunting. If they win game 3, then the mentality becomes, "The Dodgers need to win Game 4 or else they go to Wrigley for the decider." Perhaps having expectations lowered for now will help the Cubs loosen up.Good performance again by the Dodgers. In years past, they wouldn't have taken advantage of the Cubs' mistakes. It was great to see Furcal pull off that bunt. And Billingsley was studly. Not thrilled about what I saw from Saito yesterday, though I hope it's due to the fact that it wasn't a save situation and it seems as if closers struggle in a non-save situation from time to time.
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Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
I agree with trying to get Zambrano into game 1. Either way, though, I think you were seeing Harden in game 3. 'Cause Dempster had to pitch 1 of the first 4, and he's been lights out at Wrigley all season. Better to have him go one of the first two and let Harden pitch game 3 on the road, I think. Starting game 2 or game 3, Harden wasn't likely seeing a second game in this series regardless, so I'm not sure that mattered as much as Zambrano vs. Dempster to start game 1.
Wrigley
Footballguy
The 84 Pad's did it...........friggen Steve Garvey.
dagwood
Footballguy
I actually think the series is not over....Harden and Lilly have been the Cubs best two pitchers over the last couple months.......but I am sure Joe Torre and Manny Ramirez are reminding the Dodgers that they both had front row seats to the Yankees blowing a 3-0 lead in the best of 7 to the Red Sox........I knew the Dodgers were going to be a tough match up for the Cubs...they have played very well.....but the Cubs still have a chance...
Michael Brown
Footballguy
You think Manny remembers 2004? Come on!In all seriousness, if there's a manager out there that can blatantly give away a 2-0 series lead and have LA choke, it's Mr. Torre. Great guy, but beware of how he uses his pen over the next 48 hours...
dagwood
Footballguy
Actually...I don't really care what Manny remembers....but I really wish the Cubs had made more of play for him in trade....he is a playoff stud....who makes the hitters around him much better....
T Bell
Footballguy
Actually, Manny's career playoff batting average is about 50 points below his regular season average. His two home runs, while appreciated, were both solo shots hit with the Dodgers already in the lead. That's nice to have, but the truth is Manny as usual generates a lot of attention, and in this case it's more than was justified.It's definitely true to say that the Dodgers wouldn't be playing right now were it not for Manny.
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
Right - how could I forget?
I guess I was only thinking of divisional series and not the LCS.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Not sure how you can call Harden anything but a question mark right now. He only pitched 3 times in September, and in his last two starts he walked 6 vs Milwaukee and 5 vs NYM. He didn't give up a lot of runs in either game, but the Dodgers have shown that that's not going to fly tomorrow night. They will continue to take advantage of free bases and extra outs if they are given to them. I also didn't watch the game vs. the Mets, but I did hear that he was hovering around 90 the whole game and not getting it up around 95 like he does when he's on. This has to be a real concern when you're talking about someone as fragile as Harden is.He's a great pitcher and would be elite if he could stay healthy. All biases aside, I love watching the kid pitch. He's just flat out dominant when he's on and I honestly hope he does good tomorrow night.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Second-guessing Piniella's decision to start Dempster is Game 1 is just dumb, if you ask me. He was their best pitcher this year, and he had been awesome at home. How could anyone know that he would not pitch well in Game 1? Going with Zambrano is Game 2 might have been a tad questionable (although he pitched well; the errors just killed him), but Dempster in Game 1 was the right choice.
dagwood
Footballguy
The way the Cubs hit and fielded in Games 1 and 2....it really didn't matter who they put on the mound...they were going to be down 2-0....The need to score some runs or this thing will be over tomorrow.....Call me the eternal optomist...but I still think they can win tomorrow...and if they win tomorrow, I like their chances with Lilly on Sunday....
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
The guy was 14-3 with an ERA under 3.00 at Wrigley his year and it was his 5th day. No brainer.
dagwood
Footballguy
Dempster had a ton of walks...but he was still one pitch away from turning the game over to the bullpen with a 2 run lead....he made a great 0-2 pitch to Looney...that Looney barely fouled off and if Soto hangs on to the ball its a strikeout and they were out of the inning....then he made a horrible next pitch that Looney put into the centerfield seats....The guy was 14-3 with an ERA under 3.00 at Wrigley his year and it was his 5th day. No brainer.
dagwood
Footballguy
Zambrano should have been out of the second inning with no damage...but for the fact that De Rosa boots that tailor made double play ball...if he gets out that inning with no damage....its a different ball game...The Cubs have been outplayed in the first two games...but they lost because their fielding and hitting have been awful....their pitching has not been great...but it has not been awful either....
I think Manny's bigger influence is his effect on his teammates. The attitude is completely different since he arrived. That along with the change in opponents approach with Manny in the line up has made the team a lot more effective.That being said, I don't think you are giving Manny's playoff play a fair shake. If you leave out his time in Cleveland he is actually batting about 15 points higher in the playoffs compared to regular season and an OBP ~.437.
dagwood
Footballguy
His last four starts (home vs Phil; at Stl; home vs Milw; at NYM)....all playoff caliber teams....he pitched 22 innings....gave up only 11 hits...he did walk 16...but his ERA was under 2.5 as he only gave 6 runs....Not saying he has been lights out..but he and Lilly have pitched better than Dempster and Zambrano (save for his no hitter) down the stretch.....He will keep the Cubs in the game for 5-7 innings.....the Cubs are going to need to score some runs and the bullpen is going to need to pitch better for them to win....but they have a legit chance to win game 3....
Gopher State
Footballguy
Thats what the Dodgers are going for
T Bell
Footballguy
I hope that they have another comfortable lead heading into the 9th so that I can see Saito get some more work. Last night did NOT reassure me that he's had enough time to return from injury and get sharp enough to close games for the Dodgers, especially with Broxton available to do that.Thats what the Dodgers are going for
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
It was like he was rewarding Dempster for his regular season. Um, this isn't/wasn't the All-Star game...Zambrano, on the other hand, is intimidating and could've kept the pensive (they were) Dodgers down. In fact, he stepped up last night, more than just a little. Instead, they were given a hell of a lot of confidence -- just what they needed.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
I'll never forget that. With that much on the line, with something you've given your whole life to get, at that moment, you elect not to slide. Mind-blowingly stupid. And a great disservice to all of his teammates that put in so much to get so far.Christ, if that was my beer league softball team, and we're in the first inning of our first game, I still get down.
What's more, the play was in front of him.
Idiot. They will show that play forever. Now Buckner, he should be forgiven...at least he tried.
The Jerminator
Footballguy
For me that Jeter flip is the single greatest MLB play I have ever seen. The fact that it was the turning point of the series is only gravy. The only way another play could top that one would be a Willie Mays-type catch in deep center to end a playoff game - made by the First Baseman.The mere fact that Jeter was on the first base line to even ATTEMPT that play is incredible...I'll never forget that. With that much on the line, with something you've given your whole life to get, at that moment, you elect not to slide. Mind-blowingly stupid. And a great disservice to all of his teammates that put in so much to get so far.Christ, if that was my beer league softball team, and we're in the first inning of our first game, I still get down.
What's more, the play was in front of him.Idiot. They will show that play forever. Now Buckner, he should be forgiven...at least he tried.
