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The Draft Is Not Over (1 Viewer)

Jeff Pasquino

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Tis another football draft coming on Monday – just two days after the conclusion of the NFL Draft. The United Football League will hold its 2011 UFL Draft on Monday where the five teams will take 10 players each from any available player not under contract by the NFL. That includes – and is most likely directed towards – undrafted free agent talent coming out of college.

So why should NFL fans care? Well, if you were hoping that your team would be able to add find some undrafted rookie who might turn out to be the next Tony Romo, Miles Austin or Legarrette Blount, the chances of that just went way down thanks to the lockout and the UFL Draft. Players who were not selected in the NFL Draft normally sign with the teams who want them and afford them the best chances to make the team right after that final pick on Saturday evening, helping all 32 teams build up rosters to 80 players as they get ready for the next round of OTAs. Those chances go way down once the UFL gets their hands on these players.

It is unclear as to how the two leagues will work together (or against) one another should an NFL team want to get a drafted UFL player on their roster after the lockout ends. That works against the NFL, the teams and the players themselves if their dream is to be an NFL player. What is clear is that the UFL is maneuvering to make good use of the NFL’s lockout status by moving their draft up to the Monday after the NFL Draft. Their 2010 draft was in June, long after undrafted free agents had signed with prospective NFL teams. With the 2011 UFL Draft coming on Monday May 2nd, sixty players will be added to UFL rosters and then the next day “UFL Free Agency” begins, meaning even more undrafted NFL prospects will join the UFL.

So if you had any hopes of your favorite NFL team adding a few lottery ticket players after the draft, the odds just got a lot tougher of not only finding that next diamond in the rough, but even getting the opportunity to get him on an NFL roster.

 
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Damn, there goes my super sleeper Mario Fannin.
Can the UFL just draft anyone they like who are not under contract with the NFL? Or do players have to declare themselves eligible for the UFL? I'm guessing these UFL teams wouldn't be silly enough to waste their draft picks without having made some sort of approach to UDFA's to gauge their interest. Thanks Jeff, good call here to keep out eyes/ears open to the UFL draft.
 
Its 2 seperate leagues, the players can choose to sign with whoever, the NFL or UFL if drafted or a Free agent. But that is why the UFL moved it up, so the players would sign with the UFL before the NFL signs them. Its all about the contract they sign, as i'm sure it states you can not play for another professional football league if under contract.

Just another reason this lockout is rediculous.

A part of me wishes the UFL would steal this talent from the NFL, it would basicly be the same league, with different owners and commish.

Why dont all the players who are not under contract, go to the UFL? They are allowed since they are not the NFLPA anymore.

 
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Its 2 seperate leagues, the players can choose to sign with whoever, the NFL or UFL if drafted or a Free agent. But that is why the UFL moved it up, so the players would sign with the UFL before the NFL signs them. Its all about the contract they sign, as i'm sure it states you can not play for another professional football league if under contract.

Just another reason this lockout is rediculous.

A part of me wishes the UFL would steal this talent from the NFL, it would basicly be the same league, with different owners and commish.

Why dont all the players who are not under contract, go to the UFL? They are allowed since they are not the NFLPA anymore.
A player making a UFL roster makes $50k, which is "pretty much" non-negotiable.
 
Its 2 seperate leagues, the players can choose to sign with whoever, the NFL or UFL if drafted or a Free agent. But that is why the UFL moved it up, so the players would sign with the UFL before the NFL signs them. Its all about the contract they sign, as i'm sure it states you can not play for another professional football league if under contract.

Just another reason this lockout is rediculous.

A part of me wishes the UFL would steal this talent from the NFL, it would basicly be the same league, with different owners and commish.

Why dont all the players who are not under contract, go to the UFL? They are allowed since they are not the NFLPA anymore.
A player making a UFL roster makes $50k, which is "pretty much" non-negotiable.
Should they wait for the nfl to make up their mind and not make anything? Some of these kids i am sure need a job/money. 50k for 8 weeks? Sign me up all day everyday.
 
this only sounds like a wise decision.

These guys have played, worked out, and dreamt of playing in the NFL. Some of them are absolute locks to get invites to NFL teams and to sign UDFA contracts. I don't think those guys can "live with themselves" without trying the NFL.

The UFL signs players that don't make NFL rosters so why shouldn't they just wait, try and chase that dream, and then if it doesn't work then sign with the UFL?

50k is like below minimum wage in their world. It's hardly enticing.

On a side note, I totally expect Daunte to be in an NFL camp this summer as well.

Don't forget NFL teams lose a bunch of money on "camp bodies" every year. Every one of those camp bodies is "worth a look" so it's completely normal for NFL teams to spend some $ on a guy they just want to get a better look at.

I don't know for a fact, but I would guess they might be able to earn an amount near 50k (if) training with an NFL team from June til September. Also, every CBA the minimum salary goes up for rooks and for vets.

I don't think these guys are rushing to the UFL. I think they are going to go train at IMG and other special facilities like they did before the combine so as to be able to give NFL teams little doubt that they are in top shape.

 
Great thread Jeff

Keep in mind as well, the UFL will not release players from their roster, unless the NFL Team pays out a 250,000 grand release fee.

A lot of NFL clubs were reluctant to do so last year for some players-I think maybe Dominic Rhodes was one of em IIRC?

Anyhow, the Undrafted rookies are really going to have to think twice about signing a UFL contract, which the only way they can break it, is, if the NFL team who wants them, is willing to really pony up.

The player's agent most likely will advise them to hold off in hope of the big check-a 50K contract, at 3% minimum for an agent is peanuts....$1,500.00 or so for the agent, and what do they really care? Focus will be on the big $.

 
this only sounds like a wise decision.

These guys have played, worked out, and dreamt of playing in the NFL. Some of them are absolute locks to get invites to NFL teams and to sign UDFA contracts. I don't think those guys can "live with themselves" without trying the NFL.

The UFL signs players that don't make NFL rosters so why shouldn't they just wait, try and chase that dream, and then if it doesn't work then sign with the UFL?

50k is like below minimum wage in their world. It's hardly enticing.

On a side note, I totally expect Daunte to be in an NFL camp this summer as well.

Don't forget NFL teams lose a bunch of money on "camp bodies" every year. Every one of those camp bodies is "worth a look" so it's completely normal for NFL teams to spend some $ on a guy they just want to get a better look at.

I don't know for a fact, but I would guess they might be able to earn an amount near 50k (if) training with an NFL team from June til September. Also, every CBA the minimum salary goes up for rooks and for vets.

I don't think these guys are rushing to the UFL. I think they are going to go train at IMG and other special facilities like they did before the combine so as to be able to give NFL teams little doubt that they are in top shape.
Huh? Hoping u are joking about 50k below min wage. And 50k for 8 weeks? that seems pretty fair to me. :)
 
I'll have to dig up the results when posted, this will be useful stuff when we're all having our UFL Fantasy Drafts this year.

:popcorn:

-QG

 
this only sounds like a wise decision.

These guys have played, worked out, and dreamt of playing in the NFL. Some of them are absolute locks to get invites to NFL teams and to sign UDFA contracts. I don't think those guys can "live with themselves" without trying the NFL.

The UFL signs players that don't make NFL rosters so why shouldn't they just wait, try and chase that dream, and then if it doesn't work then sign with the UFL?

50k is like below minimum wage in their world. It's hardly enticing.

On a side note, I totally expect Daunte to be in an NFL camp this summer as well.

Don't forget NFL teams lose a bunch of money on "camp bodies" every year. Every one of those camp bodies is "worth a look" so it's completely normal for NFL teams to spend some $ on a guy they just want to get a better look at.

I don't know for a fact, but I would guess they might be able to earn an amount near 50k (if) training with an NFL team from June til September. Also, every CBA the minimum salary goes up for rooks and for vets.

I don't think these guys are rushing to the UFL. I think they are going to go train at IMG and other special facilities like they did before the combine so as to be able to give NFL teams little doubt that they are in top shape.
Huh? Hoping u are joking about 50k below min wage. And 50k for 8 weeks? that seems pretty fair to me. :)
Sure it does, but very few of us have the potential to make the money they could.Which would you choose:

A: work in your field but at a very minor company that is perceived as inferior in every way, and make $50k a year (yes, they make it in 8 weeks, but how much do you think they make in the off season?) Very little potential to make more money as long as you stay there. You could possibly move up to a new company later, but the odds aren't good.

B: take the chance to audition for highly regarded company in your field with the potential to either make 3x as much or as a fall back, $5k per week? Along with this, you could make millions if you're successful. You'll also make decent $ during your audition.

Even if money weren't the primary consideration, would you give up on a dream?

 
domvin that amount was lowered IIRC. I don't feel like looking it up, it's late. If you do, I remember Michael Clayton signing with the Giants as the start of a handful of signings. I want to guess 75 or 100k.

Also, we perceive players to be on UFL teams or under contract because that's what we're used to in sports. I've been told most are one year deals that ended in February or March. I was just chatting with a buddy the other day that guessed 50-75% of the UFL isn't under contract. (Wasn't really what we were talking about) I'd guess that they could have re-signed since February or whatnot but...one year deals for most.

 
I should probably know this but when is the supplemental draft for the NFL....part of the reason I am asking is I heard a few weeks ago something about Pryor from Ohio State talking about deciding to come out for that even though he promised not to make himself eligible for the real draft, etc....

 
domvin that amount was lowered IIRC. I don't feel like looking it up, it's late. If you do, I remember Michael Clayton signing with the Giants as the start of a handful of signings. I want to guess 75 or 100k.Also, we perceive players to be on UFL teams or under contract because that's what we're used to in sports. I've been told most are one year deals that ended in February or March. I was just chatting with a buddy the other day that guessed 50-75% of the UFL isn't under contract. (Wasn't really what we were talking about) I'd guess that they could have re-signed since February or whatnot but...one year deals for most.
Bri-even better. Pat and Tim on Sirius interviewed Jim Fassel(UFL HC) today and he stated the fee is not in existence any longer.....There are also new clauses that allow better flexibility.The season starts in August now.If a player is requested off the UFL team before the season starts, the player gets a free pass. He did not say what parameters though must be met to allow them off the team during the season though.
 
The most interesting pick of the UFL draft would have to be Kentucky RB Derrick Locke being selected in the 9th round

 
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JAA, just makes you look like even more of a homer. Just let it run it's course man. It's a tough business. Devine is the man, but he really might be a better college back than pros. Just the facts. Enjoy what you saw and what he gave and let him do his stuff when the time's right in the league as a UDFA. Nothing worse for your street cred than seeing your WVU logo and then you drop the guys names. I'm a WVU Alum too.
 
I should probably know this but when is the supplemental draft for the NFL....part of the reason I am asking is I heard a few weeks ago something about Pryor from Ohio State talking about deciding to come out for that even though he promised not to make himself eligible for the real draft, etc....
If reason to have one, normally it's in June I think. I don't know that the owners could convince anyone that anything "supplemental" is essential though, so it probably has to wait til an agreement is met.There were enough QBs in this draft. Do you see a team that still needs one so desperately that they'd spend the pick?I'm not exactly a fan of avoiding punishment, but if he's suspended the first five games, why didn't he go to the NFL so he can play? What did he do again? NFL owners can be quite forgiving of exceptional talents.
 

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