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The early, EARLY "underrated" guys for 15/16 season (1 Viewer)

Soulfly3

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Alright... it's early... super early... But I don't care.

Either through injury, dip in performance, or just opportunity, name the one player you believe will be seriously underrated for next season, either in Real Life, fantasy, or both.

Will be interesting to bump this come 6+ months from now and see how things are changing/shaping up.

My pick: Brandin Cooks - Hands. Speed. Route crispness. Elite QB. Pass happy team. Weak competition.

The same reasons I was sky high this season, well... even moreso next season. Colston is ok. Stills is ok. Graham a beast that drains coverage. But Cooks... he's just special.

The coaches love him. Players love him. And he is just straight fun to watch.

prediction: PPR WR1 next season (not #1 overall, just a top option based on production)

 
Michael Floyd

Fitz is about 99% likely to be gone due to his contract. Floyd is averaging over 16 YPR the past two year so if his targets go up he can be a 70/1100/8 type of guy.

Might not have the highest ceiling, like VJax, but should be able to put up high WR2 numbers.

 
Arian Foster because there will be a million reasons no one will have him in the top 8 or so RB, yet he will be the #1 RB most weeks.

 
Brandon Marshall

People will forget that he was injured most of the year. He won't be force fed anymore with Jeffrey's emergence, but no reason he can't be 1/1A with Alshon and it's not like Brandon's skills have eroded.

 
Are we talking underrated right now or come draft time? I don't think any of the above guys will be underrated going into next season.

Edit. I was typing this before Foster and Marshall were mentioned. I think those guys might be underrated due to their injury concerns.

 
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Josh Gordon, he's done worse and worse the longer he's back. He'll be very underrated next year. People will think he'll just be great, but he's gonna be ridiculously great.

Now to seriously underrated players...

-Sammy Watkins? He started strong but has hit a wall and has underperformed recently.

-Andre Ellington. If he comes back fully healthy he could be a top 10 RB next year. He was hurt all year and with Palmer out the defenses loaded the box against him.

-Cordarelle Patterson. If he's traded to another team he has a chance to bounce back big. If he stays on Minnesota I don't see him improving since they don't try very hard to get him involved.

-Eric Ebron. With a full offseason he could get more of Stafford's trust, and with Calvin seemingly becoming more frequently injured he could see more playing time and more TDs.

-Ladarius Green. If Gates leaves SD he could be a top 5 TE next year... if Gates is gone.

-Pierre Garcon. If the Skins get a new Coach Garcon could see his value shoot way up. He has the talent to be a #1 WR but everything went through Desean under Gruden. A new coach might share the love between their 2 #1 WRs.

-Michael Floyd and John Brown. If Fitz leaves they both see an increase in value, especially if they have a QB better than Drew Stanton.

-Jets new QB. They have some talent finally at WR if they stay healthy. With a new RB there's a small chance a QB could have success there.

-RGIII. If he gets a new coach and finally understands coverages in the offseason. And gains his confidence back.

-Rams Def. Kind of random, but they could be the top defense next year with all their young talent and people might pick Seattle or the 49ers rounds earlier.

-Jags WRs. With work through the offseason Bortles and his young WR corps could improve greatly next year. Marqise Lee, Allen Robinson, and even Blackmon have a chance to have a decent year.

 
steelers1080 said:
-Jags WRs. With work through the offseason Bortles and his young WR corps could improve greatly next year. Marqise Lee, Allen Robinson, and even Blackmon have a chance to have a decent year.
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Also forgot Hurns.

But for similar reasons, Bortles could be underrated as well. He's got the talent and weapons, just needs more confidence and an improved OL. And he's nimble so can be valuable for his running ability.

We won't see much in the next three games, which is why he could be underrated heading into next year.

Could also say Bridgewater, but hard to see how he will have as many viable receiving weapons compared with Bortles.

 
Ebron is an interesting pick. Already labeled a bust with all the breakout rookie receivers, easy to ignore with the usual top TE suspects creating a wall in front of him.

 
cstu said:
Gianluca said:
Jordan Matthews a clear cut # 2 and a injury away to Maclin for 1K+ & 10TDs.
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Huff is a guy who will also benefit if Maclin isn't resigned.
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Jordan Matthews will probably be a pretty trendy pick next year. I think Huff is the right answer.

 
steelers1080 said:
Josh Gordon, he's done worse and worse the longer he's back. He'll be very underrated next year. People will think he'll just be great, but he's gonna be ridiculously great.
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Soulfly alt?

 
I think this is an easy exercise at WR because rookie WRs do better in their second year usually, so I am thinking (not just rookie WRS):

DaVante Adams (if Randall Cobb is done in GB on his rookie deal)

Odell Beckham Jr. (Will be highly rated I think BUT still not likely to be picked in top 4 rounds. Also lets not forget Cruz might be drafted ahead of him)

Josh Gordon (so-so performance this year)

Justin Blackmon/Allen Robinson (Alcohol issues/Injuries will depress them)

Dante Moncrief (Reggie Wayne is gone I assume)

Martavis Bryant (Wheaton still around)

Jordan Matthews (will be huge next season)

Paul Richardson (deep leagues)

Jarvis Landry (producing ahead of where most expected him)

 
Cody Latimer?

I assume Welker will be gone. Maybe Julius too. Potentially could be 3rd in line for targets in what could be Peyton's last stand. He hasnt seen too many snaps this year, so he will be completely off the radar unless he comes alive in the post-season.

 
Amari Cooper (Chris Carter has vocalized this kids ability to run the full route tree very well and runs a 4.3. Not a fan of CC, but I listen when he talks about route running abilities).

Justin Blackmon is likely to be eligible before training camp. I'd like to see him w/ Bortles and Jags still hold his contract.

I know I'm gonna take flack for this, but Percy IF, and that's a big if, he can end up in a complimentary role.

Steven Ridley should be fully recovered and a FA. Never thought he had a chance to live up to his expectations under BB

L. Murray. Should be clear cut #1 next year

Bryce Brown: wild card

Taliofaro: fits well in Kubiak's zone blocking scheme and Forsett will be 30.

 
Beckham will be a 2nd if not first round pick. My guess is that with the rookie explosion people will also be willing to draft Cooper high.

QB- Bortles for reasons mentioned. I think Peyton and Brees will be undervalued next year, Brees especially but I see him completely regaining his old form with Cooks in year two and I assume they add a good FA or rookie pass catcher or two as Colston is looking older, slower, and more prone to dropped passes than ever.

RB- Carlos Hyde. His low ypc this year and the ineffective 49ers offense with Harbaugh maybe leaving will scare foolish owners off.

WR- this one's tougher because I think this year's draft class will again be solid and a lot will depend on landing spots. Hopefully it will be another couple weeks before my offseason rookie scouting begins

 
buddhacwru said:
I think this is an easy exercise at WR because rookie WRs do better in their second year usually, so I am thinking (not just rookie WRS):

DaVante Adams (if Randall Cobb is done in GB on his rookie deal)

Odell Beckham Jr. (Will be highly rated I think BUT still not likely to be picked in top 4 rounds. Also lets not forget Cruz might be drafted ahead of him)

Josh Gordon (so-so performance this year)

Justin Blackmon/Allen Robinson (Alcohol issues/Injuries will depress them)

Dante Moncrief (Reggie Wayne is gone I assume)

Martavis Bryant (Wheaton still around)

Jordan Matthews (will be huge next season)

Paul Richardson (deep leagues)

Jarvis Landry (producing ahead of where most expected him)
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Zero chance Cruz is drafted before Beckham.

 
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this is a BIG IF, but if the Redskins gut the coaching staff and get someone with a clue, I still think players like Garcon (and to a lesser extent DeSean) will have great value next year. Lots of people were burned by Garcon, but its not like he played bad and suddenly couldn't catch, he wasn't injured, etc.

If Gruden is still the coach then remove both from consideration. ;)

 
ChuckLiddell said:
Cody Latimer?

I assume Welker will be gone. Maybe Julius too. Potentially could be 3rd in line for targets in what could be Peyton's last stand. He hasnt seen too many snaps this year, so he will be completely off the radar unless he comes alive in the post-season.
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I sure hope so. Really thought he'd get a lot more burn this year. Not that they Broncos didn't already have a ton of talent in house already, but still...

 
Ryan Swope said:
Soulfly3 said:
buddhacwru said:
Where do you guys see Odell Beckham going then. Also what Tight Ends will be good bargains. I'm thinking Ebron and Kelce.
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Odell isnt getting outta the 2nd round
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Maybe not quite this, but wherever people drafted Keenan Allen this year (late 2nd to early 4th) will be a solid range in a deep WR1 pool next year
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makes sense. I think Odell will outperform Keenan Allen though. There's a lot of other WRs too from this class like Evans that can outshine him.

 
cloppbeast said:
cstu said:
Gianluca said:
Jordan Matthews a clear cut # 2 and a injury away to Maclin for 1K+ & 10TDs.
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Huff is a guy who will also benefit if Maclin isn't resigned.
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Jordan Matthews will probably be a pretty trendy pick next year. I think Huff is the right answer.
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I would not hold my breath on this. He still makes a lot of mistakes and is really raw as a receiver. He has not even been targeted in the last 3 games (only played 5 snaps vs. SEA) and has just 13 targets on the season. He has a long way to go.

 
Watch out again for Mike Glennon. Gonna have about half this season and a full offseason more with Jax and Evans, and ASJ once he gets healthy. They'll be dishing it out of the backfield more with an established catcher like Sims. This all of course, if Lovie can make up his damn mind and stick with one guy. They're also sure to draft an o-lineman or 2 in the draft.

 
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Jed said:
buddhacwru said:
I think this is an easy exercise at WR because rookie WRs do better in their second year usually, so I am thinking (not just rookie WRS):

DaVante Adams (if Randall Cobb is done in GB on his rookie deal)

Odell Beckham Jr. (Will be highly rated I think BUT still not likely to be picked in top 4 rounds. Also lets not forget Cruz might be drafted ahead of him)

Josh Gordon (so-so performance this year)

Justin Blackmon/Allen Robinson (Alcohol issues/Injuries will depress them)

Dante Moncrief (Reggie Wayne is gone I assume)

Martavis Bryant (Wheaton still around)

Jordan Matthews (will be huge next season)

Paul Richardson (deep leagues)

Jarvis Landry (producing ahead of where most expected him)
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Zero chance Cruz is drafted before Beckham.
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Beckham Jr goes way, way before Cruz..Cruz is not a #1 but will benefit from Beckham's presence..but Cruz has slipped off the radar since 2012, having sported a ho-hum 73-998-4 in 2013.. injuries are part of it but the guy is quickly earning the injury prone tag. doubtful he returns anywhere near to form in 2015, heck, even before getting hurt this year he wasnt worth anything, 3.8 recs/gm, 56.2 ya/gm..D. Adams in GB will be the new R. Cobb, as the Packers will let him walk.

D.Moncrief

Khiry Robinson if/when Saints let Mark Ingram walk.

Doubtful Carlos Hyde becomes a top RB in the NFL..the 2015 starting RB for SF is not currently on their roster..

we're just scratching the surface with just how good I. Crowell can and will be in the future.

like some else mentioned the Rams are the best defense in 2015..its scary just how good they really are..

 
Pots said:
steelers1080 said:
Josh Gordon, he's done worse and worse the longer he's back. He'll be very underrated next year. People will think he'll just be great, but he's gonna be ridiculously great.
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Soulfly alt?
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He started this thread, I had to throw it in!

buddhacwru said:
I think this is an easy exercise at WR because rookie WRs do better in their second year usually, so I am thinking (not just rookie WRS):

Odell Beckham Jr. (Will be highly rated I think BUT still not likely to be picked in top 4 rounds. Also lets not forget Cruz might be drafted ahead of him)
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You're crazy! Adam Schefter and other espn talking heads have already begun talking about him as a top 5 fantasy WR next year. He'll probably be gone in the top 2-3 rounds next year. Possibly top 1-2 rounds in PPR.

 
I think Bradford could be a nice sleeper next year.

The Oline is better. When Quick was here he looked like he had turned the corner, Bailey is coming on strong and Austin has play maker ability.

The tight ends are also getting a lot more looks and producing better.

I think Sam could break into the top 10 if he can stay healthy for a whole year and he will be severely underrated next year in drafts

At Rb I love Bryce Brown

Hopefully old man Jackson retires at the end of the year. The Bills gave up high compensation (in rb terms) for Brown and he has looked good in limited time. If he gets the touches and learns to hold onto the ball he could prove huge dividends on your investment. Buffalo wants to run the ball a lot.

Wr - Julio jones

Might sound weird but should be regarded asa a top 3 wr and will probably be drafted around 7-10 next year due to some injuries. The last couple of games have shown just how dominating he is. If he falls into anyones 3rd round next year he is the SOD of all time.

 
ChuckLiddell said:
Cody Latimer?

I assume Welker will be gone. Maybe Julius too. Potentially could be 3rd in line for targets in what could be Peyton's last stand. He hasnt seen too many snaps this year, so he will be completely off the radar unless he comes alive in the post-season.
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:yes:

in general, the easy answer is to look to players who were injured this year or rookies who didn't keep up with the big guns.

Moncrief, Sankey, Bridgewater, Ebron, and Cooks are all guys worth watching.

Then of course you have your injured players. Even better if they were injured but still played so they become less obvious.

QBs whose Oline improves. I expect a resurgence from Cam Newton.

 
zamboni said:
Brandon Marshall

People will forget that he was injured most of the year. He won't be force fed anymore with Jeffrey's emergence, but no reason he can't be 1/1A with Alshon and it's not like Brandon's skills have eroded.
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At his age, the fact that he was injured all season long IS a concern. Someone desperate is going to reach for him hoping he does bounce back. It won't be me. Older guys don't come back as quick from injuries. And often times they don't ever come back to near where they were.

I have no problem with keeping an old guy up your sleeve and the same goes for a guy who was injured the previous year. But mixing the two together is poison IMHO.

 
QB:

Phillip Rivers

Tony Romo
Nick Foles

RB:

Mark Ingram

Tre Mason

WR:

Jeremy Maclin

Martavis Bryant

TE:
Tim Wright
Ladarius Green

 
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Blackjacks said:
I think Bradford could be a nice sleeper next year.

The Oline is better. When Quick was here he looked like he had turned the corner, Bailey is coming on strong and Austin has play maker ability.

The tight ends are also getting a lot more looks and producing better.

I think Sam could break into the top 10 if he can stay healthy for a whole year and he will be severely underrated next year in drafts

At Rb I love Bryce Brown

Hopefully old man Jackson retires at the end of the year. The Bills gave up high compensation (in rb terms) for Brown and he has looked good in limited time. If he gets the touches and learns to hold onto the ball he could prove huge dividends on your investment. Buffalo wants to run the ball a lot.

Wr - Julio jones

Might sound weird but should be regarded asa a top 3 wr and will probably be drafted around 7-10 next year due to some injuries. The last couple of games have shown just how dominating he is. If he falls into anyones 3rd round next year he is the SOD of all time.
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But he has some stinkers too. And they aren't explained away by injuries. I think Ryan and the OC just get too cute trying to use him as a decoy after he has blown up. I've never seen such a gifted and explosive athlete just disappear for stretches in the game.

 
As someone else pointed out, pretty much anyone that was injured for an extended time this year.

Got Jordy Nelson ridiculously late in a draft last year after he spent most of his 2012 injured. I'll never let my buddy forget it, either.

When I picked Nelson I said "steal of the draft right here" and my buddy laughed and told me he wasn't even the #1 on his own team.

 
Mikejay said:
Same guy that's underated every year - Romo. Drafted as a QB2 every year and finishes as a QB1.
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Except this year. He's been a QB2 this season in most systems, I think, or at best a borderline QB1 in a soup with a bunch of other guys.

 
buddhacwru said:
Ryan Swope said:
Soulfly3 said:
buddhacwru said:
Where do you guys see Odell Beckham going then. Also what Tight Ends will be good bargains. I'm thinking Ebron and Kelce.
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Odell isnt getting outta the 2nd round
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Maybe not quite this, but wherever people drafted Keenan Allen this year (late 2nd to early 4th) will be a solid range in a deep WR1 pool next year
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makes sense. I think Odell will outperform Keenan Allen though. There's a lot of other WRs too from this class like Evans that can outshine him.
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I will say my comment may have seemed a bit more conservative on the ODJ bandwagon. I think he has the potential to AMAZING. He is going to be drafted where people selected Patterson and Allen but I think he is a top 5 WR in the league in this already heavy class.
 
For the Brandon Marshall voters. It isn't Marshall we are worried about, it is Cutler and the new coaches that are coming in. What kind of offense are they going to run and Cutler is getting worse. I am not sure I see a Phillip Rivers type bounce back for him.

 
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