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The end of Joey Galloway? (1 Viewer)

The Buccaneers were trailing the Panthers 10-3 with less than two minutes to go before halftime and needed a fast drive to score either a field goal or a touchdown. The problem was that Tampa Bay’s fastest player, wide receiver Joey Galloway, was on the bench on Monday night, not seeing the field for a single snap.

Galloway was healthy, having played in the last five games since returning from a broken foot in Week 2 against Atlanta that caused him to miss four games, but aside from backup quarterback Luke McCown, the 37-year old receiver was the only active Buccaneer not to step foot on the field on Monday night. Bucs head coach Jon Gruden explained why during his Tuesday morning press conference.

“Antonio [bryant] is the reason,” Gruden said. “They play the same position. Right now, that’s just the way it is. It’s unfortunate. Michael Clayton is our flanker and Joey is a split end and so is Antonio. [Those] the positions they play. Hopefully you are not holding that against me for playing Antonio Bryant.”

Bryant had an amazing night for the Buccaneers, catching nine passes for a career-high 200 yards and two touchdowns in the 38-23 loss at Carolina. On the year, Bryant has 66 catches for 936 yards (14.2 avg.) and five touchdowns and leads the team in all receiving categories.

Meanwhile, Galloway has struggled with injuries, missing the entire offseason program rehabbing a shoulder injury from the end of the 2008 campaign and then missing all of training camp and the preseason with a severe groin injury. Gruden grew increasingly agitated during August as his top receiver, who set a franchise record with three straight 1,000-yard seasons from 2005-07, was unable to return to health until the start of the season.

Galloway played in the first two games of the year before breaking his foot, and by the time he returned against Dallas, Bryant had already established himself as Tampa Bay’s starting split end and go-to receiver. But why hasn’t Galloway seen at least spot duty as the third receiver?

“There is the potential for that,” Gruden said. “Joey has been our split end. It sounds easy. It sounds achievable. Joey is not the kind of guy right now in my opinion that is comfortable coming off the bench and playing 18-20 plays a game. He’s a guy that functions better when he’s playing [every down]. Being a third receiver, being a guy that comes in and plays situationally, it’s not for everybody. It’s hard. It’s frustrating for me. We tried to mix it up early in the season with Antonio at flanker. That’s obviously not his best position. It’s obviously not Joey’s best position. We have two guys that play the same position. It’s unfortunate, but it’s reality.”

Right or wrong, Gruden has determined that Ike Hilliard is a better situational, third receiver than Galloway and the numbers seem to support that. Hilliard has 38 catches for 351 yards and was Tampa Bay’s leading touchdown producer heading into the Monday night contest at Carolina with four touchdowns. Through eight games, Galloway has only 12 catches for 134 yards (11.2 avg.).

“We’re going to play our best players, okay?” Gruden said. “We’re going to play our best players. Joey’s had a lot go on this year with his injuries. He’s missed an awful lot of time. When you play on the strong side there are a lot of things that are different than when you are on the weak side. I’ll just go back and say that we’ve missed him for a long time and we’ve kind of moved on a little bit. Obviously, it’s been tough. We’re going to play our best guys and right now, that’s what we’re doing.”

After not playing Galloway for a single snap on Monday night, it’s clear that Gruden has indeed moved on and phased him out of the offense as Galloway has not had a catch since his 22-yarder at Kansas City and has gone without a reception in four straight games.

But it is not impossible for Gruden to get Galloway and Bryant on the field at the same time. He did that on several occasions last week against New Orleans, although Galloway did not help his cause by dropping a very catchable pass on second-and-6 with 4:11 left the fourth quarter of a tied game that would have picked up a first down and moved the Bucs into field goal position.

What also hurts Galloway is the fact that he is not a very effective blocker and is certainly not in Clayton’s class in that regard, which prevents him from being the team’s starting flanker.

“Jimmy Christmas, yeah,” Gruden said about Clayton having the edge in blocking. “If you watched [Carolina’s] receivers block last night that was a huge impact on their running game. Huge. If you watch Cadillac [Williams’] touchdown, it’s all Clayton. He does an unbelievable job. You have to be not only willing, but you have to be capable and an outstanding physical football player to do the things that Clayton did and [Mushin] Muhammad did and Steve Smith did.”

Injuries and dropped passes caused Clayton to fall out of favor in Gruden’s offense for a couple years from 2005-06. It appears the same situation is happening to Galloway in 2008, but at age 37, the Bucs may not be as willing to give Galloway the time they have given Clayton to work his way back into the offense.
 
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I think Joey has some juice left but I think Tampa Bay has found their SE...never really seen a coach differentitate the Split End/Flanker positions so much...but OK.

Galloway is likely gone in the off season and I am not so sure he will get the same opp as a WR1 on any team...there are a few that could use him...Miami, Tennessee, Seattle, those are teams that could use some straight line speed mixed with a little bit of slants across the middle that burst into big plays...those are teams that might have a need. He'll certainly be offered a chance ot join someone in minicamps...but the Bucs need an overhaul on offense.

Assume Bryant is as good next year, and nothing he has done so far in his career points to consistency year in and year out but assume Gruden got him completely turned around...they still need a WR2(Flanker), TE, RBs, an upgrade at QB...they need a lot. And they have to replace Monte iffin which they won't do...not optimistic about the Bucs moving forward right now.

 
They're 9-4 and have a top-10 offense. What are you so down about?
In PPG they are 17th in the league which is pretty mediocre and their defense is solid but not a world beater like 6-7 years ago so I think for them to actually make some noise in the playoffs they are going to have to get much better on offense and be able to contorl the clock and put points up. They could easily be 6-7 right now when ypou see how they fell behind @Chi, @KC, @Det, and those are not exactly juggernaut teams either. Warrick Dunn is the leading rusher right now with 689 yds...odds are they won't have a 1,000 yard rusher which is a shame because they have the OL to go out and run over folks like Carolina did against them last night. Garcia has 10 TD vs 3 picks...that's nice but he doesn't score enough Touchdowns. They need more at the skill positions and I think its pretty obvious. They are going to float into the playoffs an lose again Capella, it's nice and respectable and sure beats the seaosns the Lions have had to endure for some time now, but I want to see them gret back to the Super Bowl and I feel they are a long way off, and Gruden has had plenty of time to make some headway with the offense and 5-6 years in he has regressed, not progressed with his offense IMO.
 
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They're 9-4 and have a top-10 offense. What are you so down about?
In PPG they are 17th in the league which is pretty mediocre and their defense is solid but not a world beater like 6-7 years ago so I think for them to actually make some noise in the playoffs they are going to have to get much better on offense and be able to contorl the clock and put points up. They could easily be 6-7 right now when ypou see how they fell behind @Chi, @KC, @Det, and those are not exactly juggernaut teams either. Warrick Dunn is the leading rusher right now with 689 yds...odds are they won't have a 1,000 yard rusher which is a shame because they have the OL to go out and run over folks like Carolina did against them last night. Garcia has 10 TD vs 3 picks...that's nice but he doesn't score enough Touchdowns. They need more at the skill positions and I think its pretty obvious. They are going to float into the playoffs an lose again Capella, it's nice and respectable and sure beats the seaosns the Lions have had to endure for some time now, but I want to see them gret back to the Super Bowl and I feel they are a long way off, and Gruden has had plenty of time to make some headway with the offense and 5-6 years in he has regressed, not progressed with his offense IMO.
They also lost close games on the road to New Orleans, Denver and Dallas. We can play that game all day long.Yes, they're terrible in the RZ but that's on Garcia holding the ball and not getting it out when it needs to be. They're moving the ball more than fine between the 20s which is a good indication of where the offense is. They don't have a ton of upper-level talent at the skill spots, but Bryant is fine as their main WR, Clayton is monster blocker but pretty average receiver, and the trio of RBs is suitable, although I do imagine they'll draft someone. The Oline is pretty good too, and young.The only correction on offense next year may in fact be Garcia. The Dline needs way more help, imo.
 
Bryant is the best offensive weapon we've had since Key, IMO. Here's what I think we need:

A primary RB - what a huge loss EG was. I can't help but think of what the trio of EG, CW, and WD could do. But now, CW is not good enough yet and WD will be virtually useless in the 4th qtr of a close playoff game.

Secondary WR - here's where I don't understand the Galloway situation. We need some WR to step up like McCardell and Joe J did in '02. I don't think Hilliard can...but why not Clayton and Galloway?

I think combined with Garcia's aggressiveness last night, we'd have an offense good enough to make it to Tampa (!) with the above.

The DL is another story...like Cappy said. Maybe they can gell when Haye returns.

 
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Bryant is the best offensive weapon we've had since Key, IMO. Here's what I think we need:

A primary RB - what a huge loss EG was. I can't help but think of what the trio of EG, CW, and WD could do. But now, CW is not good enough yet and WD will be virtually useless in the 4th qtr of a close playoff game.

Secondary WR - here's where I don't understand the Galloway situation. We need some WR to step up like McCardell and Joe J did in '02. I don't think Hilliard can...but why not Clayton and Galloway?

I think combined with Garcia's aggressiveness last night, we'd have an offense good enough to make it to Tampa (!) with the above.

The DL is another story...like Cappy said. Maybe they can gell when Haye returns.
And let's be honest...they aren't going to draft a QB. Next year will be Gruden's 8th season at the helm, and they haven't drafted one yet. No reason to think otherwise, really. I imagine they'll be in play for McNabb, and if not him, re-sign Garcia.I don't know what free agents are available, but if Graham is healthy I think the offense is good enough, provided Bryant isn't a fluke. And he sure doesn't appear to be one. They're just desperate for DLine help. They haven't had a consistent pass rush all year and that kills the cover two. Haye/Hovan are ok, but I'm not in love with them.

 

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