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The fallacy of “selling high” (1 Viewer)

Avery

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Practically every time a player has a big game, someone posts about “selling high” on this player tapping into a practically instinctive response by some fantasy footballers to “Sell high! Sell high!” when a player has a breakout performance. This response is potential roadblock to success.

The reason you draft or trade for a player is with the thought/hope that his production will be high and for an extended period of time. We generally don’t go after players in the draft or via trade that we think will suck. So if a player starts performing well, or rather begins to perform up to your personal expectations, why would you immediately go to sell that player? For example, I had high hopes for Kevin Jones this year although I expected a slow start with his tough first few weeks and new offensive system. Once he began to perform up to my expectations why would I “sell” on him to get another player who is performing similarly?

If a player emerges leaving your team heavy at one position, a trade can make sense to bring balance to your team, but assuming that a player performing well will net a similarly performing player at the same position, the response to sell because he is playing well does not appear to be direct path to success. In fact in many ways it seems that to sell a playing who is playing well would be directly adverse to success.

The difficulty here is spotting “trend” versus “anomaly” in the performance. We can try to predict, but given our inability to forecast the future, we really don’t know. I do know that by trading for some of these high performing players, I have had success. Last year I traded for Gates who lead my team to great success. Image the fantasy roster you could have by adding guys like Colston, Chester Taylor, Kevin Jones and Marc Bulger when their owners wanted to “sell high” on them this year.

Not to say there aren’t a number of examples of players who should have been traded away with a strong anomaly performance that did not culminate in a trend, but I’m simply proffering some thought on using your leaguemates possibly impulsive and habitual response to “Sell high! Sell high!” I think that often we can try to be to smart for our own good and sell a player at what we deem as peak value when he is simply finally performing as we hoped he would and instead of “selling high”, just sit back and enjoy the ride!

 
I disagree. I am constantly on the look for guys on the waiver wire/via trade that look to have favorable schedules/team circumstances that will enable them to perform well. If/when they do, I reach out to other owners who may have a weakness/bye week issues and try to deal that player for an upgrade at another position.

Henry is a classic sell high, he's on a lousy team with an incumbent rookie rb in the wings who was hurt. Owen Daniels is this weeks sell high.

I guess it boils down to expectations and your evaluations on players and whether they can keep up their production. Not everyone is a sell high and at the end of the day the moves you make need to make sense and improve your roster. You don't sell a player just to deal him but if you believe that player has peaked or can't maintain their production deal him if you can improve in another area.

 
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I disagree. I am constantly on the look for guys on the waiver wire/via trade that look to have favorable schedules/team circumstances that will enable them to perform well. If/when they do, I reach out to other owners who may have a weakness/bye week issues and try to deal that player for an upgrade at another position. Henry is a classic sell high, he's on a lousy team with an incumbent rookie rb in the wings who was hurt. Owen Daniels is this weeks sell high. I guess it boils down to expectations and your evaluations on players and whether they can keep up their production.
Just to clarify, I'm not proposing never selligh high, or buying low.I'm just proposing that due to the lack of true perdictability, bucking the trend may be a tool for some success.The topic headline may be a bit flashy with "The fallacy of “selling high”, the roadblock to success" but after reading too many New York Daily News editions, I'm now incline to use the flashy headline. ;)
 
But how can you call yourself a "shark" unless you run out and trade LT and Steve Smith for 10 scrubs with great Week 16 match-ups . . .

 
I agree with the OP as I often see these thread topics pop up. I shake my head and think yeah, that's just what you want to get rid of - those pesky high scoring players.

A quick search turns up "sell high" threads for: FGore, KJones, Rudi Johnson, McNabb & Westbrook. All or most of those players were selected in the top half of the draft. Why sell them when they're producing?

 
I agree with the OP as I often see these thread topics pop up. I shake my head and think yeah, that's just what you want to get rid of - those pesky high scoring players.A quick search turns up "sell high" threads for: FGore, KJones, Rudi Johnson, McNabb & Westbrook. All or most of those players were selected in the top half of the draft. Why sell them when they're producing?
it all depends on what you can get for them. FF'ers dealing Rudi/McNabb/Westy after good games should find another hobby. For every Gore/Jones there's a Henry/Reggie Williams, the key is correctly predicting the flash in the pans from the players with true upside.
 
I agree with the OP as I often see these thread topics pop up. I shake my head and think yeah, that's just what you want to get rid of - those pesky high scoring players.

A quick search turns up "sell high" threads for: FGore, KJones, Rudi Johnson, McNabb & Westbrook. All or most of those players were selected in the top half of the draft. Why sell them when they're producing?
it all depends on what you can get for them. FF'ers dealing Rudi/McNabb/Westy after good games should find another hobby. For every Gore/Jones there's a Henry/Reggie Williams, the key is correctly predicting the flash in the pans from the players with true upside.
In a round about way, that is really my point. It is only ego that leads many to believe that that can accurately discern the trends from the anomalies over time and a large sample size; ego and selective memory. By proper use of "bucking the trend of selling high" you can acquire (and keep!) players who are performing well rather than thinking you made a shark move by selling the "aberration" for the "stud who sure to turn it around."
 
Another thread in which format you're playing plays a big factor. :rolleyes:

Willie Parker's happen. But for every Willie Parker, there are 20 Sam Gado's.

 
Another thread in which format you're playing plays a big factor. :rolleyes: Willie Parker's happen. But for every Willie Parker, there are 20 Sam Gado's.
I'm not sure what a general startegy question about always seeking to "sell high" on a player has anything to do with format unless your format disallows tradings.Also, I was not merely addressing "out of nowhere" players like Willie Parker or Sam Gado but players like Bulger, Vick and Kevin Jones who were generally highly ranked players who are performing up to their hype and many's expectations.
 
I was actually the creator of the thread McNabb 'sell high' thread, but I was bringing it up for discussion, not advising to sell. I actually decided not to sell in that case. My point at the time was that it was extremely unlikely that McNabb could continue at the pace he was on (as this week illustrates nicely) so it might make sense to trade him at his highest value. In the end I decided not to sell because I couldn't get a decent deal worked out and it turned out his skill players weren't as banged up as it appeared at that time.

Still, I got McNabb at a relative bargain (5th round), and if I could have moved him straight up for Manning or in a package for LT or LJ I would have done it. That's the essence of sell high to me...not moving Frank Gore for Reuben Droughns as some suggested after week 2. That will kill a team as the creator of this thread suggested.

In the end, I think that's what the "sell high" threads are getting at: 1. is this guy a trend or mirage and 2. what could I get for him. Just like everything else there's no set rule. It's cliche, but the fantasy season is a marathon not sprint, and even if your team was All World week 1 (or week 8 for that matter) you still have to stay on top of the crazy stock market that is fantasy football. You have to sell high on the pretenders and ride the contenders into the sunset. Good luck figuring out who is who.

 
I agree with the OP as I often see these thread topics pop up. I shake my head and think yeah, that's just what you want to get rid of - those pesky high scoring players.A quick search turns up "sell high" threads for: FGore, KJones, Rudi Johnson, McNabb & Westbrook. All or most of those players were selected in the top half of the draft. Why sell them when they're producing?
I traded Rex for Gates 3 weeks ago. I traded Tatum for Plaxico last week.I have Peyton as a QB and picked up Rex from the WW, replaced him with Kitna.I have Brown, Westbrook and F. Taylor in a start 2 RB league. I drafted Tater 7th or 8th round.Trading for the sake of trading can be dangerous, but getting value while the getting is good can really help out.
 
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Another thread in which format you're playing plays a big factor. :rolleyes: Willie Parker's happen. But for every Willie Parker, there are 20 Sam Gado's.
I'm not sure what a general startegy question about always seeking to "sell high" on a player has anything to do with format unless your format disallows tradings.Also, I was not merely addressing "out of nowhere" players like Willie Parker or Sam Gado but players like Bulger, Vick and Kevin Jones who were generally highly ranked players who are performing up to their hype and many's expectations.
If you are playing Dynasty (which you very obviously are not), your strategy will differ greatly from redraft.
 

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